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05:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:40114 (17:08:56)
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06:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 18847 points, T:11618, killed by a horse
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07:07 <ajh> hi, where do I find the Goblin King?
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07:49 <cbus> A third new and optional side branch geared towards beginning/low level players, known as Goblin Town - the Goblin King rules over Goblin Town, and he controls access to Mine Town and Mines' End. He must be defeated to gain physical access to either.
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08:11 <ajh> thanks cbus, but the stairs in the Mines are blocked. Is there a second way?
08:12 <cbus> you are probably better of killing the goblin king in his branch
08:12 <cbus> could get down to minetown through trap door if I read wiki correct
08:12 <cbus> goblin town is not minetown
08:16 <cbus> there is a portal to goblin town fairly early (not sure about details since I dont play much evilhack)
08:16 <cbus> when tried it in wizmode it showed up on level 2 (not sure if it is hidden or not since I used teh ^F feature in wizmode)
08:18 <mobileuser> portal to goblin town in evilhack is level 2 or 3
08:19 <mobileuser> and yes, it's hidden
08:29 <Graznop> when you're on the level with the portal, "You hear the sounds of a bustling town nearby."
08:30 <aosdict> that would be a better message if there wasn't a minetown named Bustling Town
08:31 <cbus> graznop, didnt happen to me in wizmode :D
08:32 <cbus> oooh it isnt instant
08:34 <Graznop> it works like the sounds you hear when there is a shop on the level, i.e. a random chance each turn
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08:37 <aosdict> is goblin town really supposed to be "bustling" anyway? I thought it was supposed to be shady and dark, not a happy productive economy
09:32 <ajh> ah Graznop
09:33 <ajh> it’s behind a portal
09:33 <Graznop> did you find it?
09:44 <ajh> didn’t look for it yet, but I remember the message
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10:09 <K2> sounds for the goblin town portal
10:09 <Hecubus> K2: Message from Graznop at 2023-05-28 15:30 EDT: "a poisoned mithril dwarvish bearded axe named Dramborleg" - should a lawful gift be poisoned?
10:09 <K2>             "the sounds of a bustling town nearby.",
10:09 <K2>             "what sounds like a goblin war party off in the distance.",
10:09 <K2>             "a chorus singing \"We are the Lollipop Guild\"..."
10:09 <K2> ^ last one is if you're hallucinating
10:10 <Graznop> must do more hallucinating!
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10:27 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9e7bb2df928c...0e6e35b0618b
10:28 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 0e6e35b - Fix: vampshifted Vlad in bones.
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11:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:3014 (0:13:13)
11:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3538 (0:16:03)
12:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7139 points, T:5500, killed by a gnomish wizard, while frozen by a monster's gaze
12:41 <Umbire> @e?goblin
12:42 <Umbire> @?goblin
12:42 <Umbire> eyup
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12:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2978 (0:17:54)
13:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3257 (0:23:06)
13:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4404 (0:35:18)
13:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful iguana, on T:5064 (0:42:55)
13:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6129 (0:56:47)
13:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a rabid dog, on T:6395 (0:59:39)
13:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:7449 (1:13:37)
13:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed ring of levitation", on T:7479 (1:15:14)
14:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7886 (1:20:01)
14:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8072 (1:22:08)
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14:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:57127 (5:32:34)
14:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide striped shirt of excellence named Sergio", on T:57781 (5:35:23)
14:10 <Umbire> Striped shirt for flavor?
14:10 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
14:10 <Umbire> Neat
14:10 <Umbire> Also you think you'll be free to help with some wiki stuff this week
14:11 <bouquet> my pet nymph was attacking a monster nearby while I was also adjacent. Then she decided to steal from me instead?
14:11 <bouquet> The ice nymph pretends to be friendly to Kaldana the Warrior.
14:11 <bouquet> The ice nymph stole the blessed +6 Dirge.
14:11 <bouquet> that's my dirge!
14:11 <Loggers_VIII> umbire yea I'm always down for wiki stuff
14:11 <Loggers_VIII> what were you thinking
14:11 <Loggers_VIII> bouquet lol
14:12 <Loggers_VIII> turncoat!
14:12 <Umbire> confusion?
14:12 <cbus> what does "of excellence" do?
14:12 <bouquet> nope, she's just a jerk
14:12 <Umbire> Charisma boost
14:12 <Loggers_VIII> acts as luck stone, gives charisma
14:12 <bouquet> this relationship IS OVER!
14:13 <Umbire> bouquet: You sure Kaldana doesn't have displacement?
14:13 <cbus> any point if you already have a luckstone?
14:13 <bouquet> certain. I killed him
14:13 <Umbire> Maybe she really really wanted him dead
14:13 <Umbire> and needed to borrow it for a second
14:14 <bouquet> terrible pet. Even with nobody else around she's trying to steal from me. Is that expected or a bug?
14:14 <Loggers_VIII> sounds like a bug although there could be some weird edge case stuff going on
14:14 <Umbire> Conflict?
14:14 <Loggers_VIII> but that's just nethack :P
14:14 <bouquet> oh crap, I still have conflict on!
14:15 <Umbire> lmfao
14:15 <bouquet> jeez... so dumb
14:15 <Umbire> PEBCAK moment
14:15 <Loggers_VIII> always gotta run through the long ass list of possible factors in these scenarios, lol
14:15 <Umbire> I choose to believe she hated Kaldana enough to try and murder him with Dirge
14:15 <Umbire> simply because it's funnier
14:15 <Loggers_VIII> hah
14:16 <bouquet> holy smokes a trapper had vorpy!!
14:17 <Umbire> Cool death drop
14:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:58399 (5:46:17)
14:23 <Loggers_VIII> argh unhittable nazgul with -44 AC
14:23 <Loggers_VIII> nice breaking three wands of fire got the job done
14:28 <Umbire> have you tried cancelling ultra-high AC monsters like those
14:28 <Loggers_VIII> no, I don't bother keeping wands of cancellation around
14:29 <Loggers_VIII> I do know the cancellation spell, but can't cast it for obvious reasons
14:29 <Umbire> sounds like you should consider starting tbh
14:31 <Loggers_VIII> one of those things where it would probably be beneficial 95% of the time but I don't think I'm competent enough to make it 100% of the time
14:32 <Umbire> fair
14:38 <bouquet> I keep a second sack called !!DANGER!! which is orange&underline in my config. I only take /oC out for each use then put it right back.
14:39 <Loggers_VIII> I had a run where I kept it in a sack but I decided I was spending too much brainpower being insanely worried every time I took it out to blank acid potions
14:39 <bouquet> and /oC, BoT, and Stormbringer are orange&underline. That's why I play with curses so I can alway be reminded what's actively in inventory.
14:39 <Loggers_VIII> it all comes back to me being lazy I think :)
14:40 <Loggers_VIII> yeah curses is really nice
14:40 <Loggers_VIII> oh jesus I have vorpal horrors
14:41 <Loggers_VIII> just went toe-to-toe with one in melee while slowed, I'll have to remember to buy a lottery ticket later
14:42 <bouquet> wow, that's lucky
14:42 <Loggers_VIII> the chance of beheading is like 5% right?
14:42 <bouquet> Ya 
14:42 <bouquet> I got decapitated while standing on the high altar in astral about to sacrifice once.  That's why I always try to generate vorpy before astral if I can
14:45 <K2> that happened to me last junethack in sporkhack
14:45 <K2> i was on the correct altar, figured i'd do grand tour to get the extra trophy, next turn boop lost my head
14:46 <Loggers_VIII> "hmm today I will do grand tour on Astral" <--- clueless
14:47 <Loggers_VIII> hey eilistraee can I get a gift pls thanks in advance
14:49 <K2> grand tour is when you visit/touch all three altars on astral
14:50 <Loggers_VIII> I know
14:50 <Loggers_VIII> granted, sometimes it is forced
14:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 40843 points, T:12103, killed by a spotted jelly
14:55 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame
14:55 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1685378444.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/evilhack/dumplog/1685168079.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1685166911.evil.html
14:55 <Loggers_VIII> that seems like a suicide almost
14:56 <Umbire> missed enhancing MA a bit
14:56 <Umbire> but also probably underestimated acid passive
14:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Eilistraee, on T:65231 (6:20:41)
14:56 <Loggers_VIII> fuckin finally!
14:57 <Umbire> yey
14:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:65597 (6:23:02)
15:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Eilistraee, on T:68735 (6:50:56)
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> I just want fire brand :(
15:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Eilistraee, on T:71058 (6:58:41)
15:48 <Loggers_VIII> er, frost brand I mean :)
15:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:71424 (7:00:48)
15:52 <Loggers_VIII> I really should camp for ogresmasher tho
15:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Eilistraee, on T:71684 (7:04:21)
15:54 <Loggers_VIII> oh it's over
15:54 <Umbire> it's all ogre
15:54 <Loggers_VIII> pff
15:55 <mobileuser> cakewalk now
15:55 <mobileuser> :-P
15:55 <Loggers_VIII> cakewalk's an understatement, might as well put me on the scoreboard already :P
15:55 <mobileuser> lol
15:56 <Loggers_VIII> I do believe it is time to Kill Everyone
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15:58 <Loggers_VIII> I do wish I had a ring of free action, but I doubt it'll matter much
15:58 <Loggers_VIII> ^ famous last words
16:05 <Loggers_VIII> <  huh, "dmosnfree: 0 removed doesn't match 1 pending on Dlvl:20 Program in disorder!  (saving and reloading may fix this problem)"
16:06 <Loggers_VIII> disintegrated a centurion sergeant, not sure what happened there
16:06 <Loggers_VIII> centaurian*
16:11 <Umbire> were they someone's steed?
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16:12 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
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16:14 <Umbire> that'll do it then
16:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4347 (0:29:19)
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18:54 <terrapin> how did loggers manage to disintegrate a steed, I wonder?
18:54 <terrapin> I though you hit the rider?
18:55 <terrapin> *thought
18:55 <Umbire> Attacks that miss riders can fall upon their steeds, and this wasn't a melee attack
18:56 <Umbire> Might be part of it, idk
18:56 <Umbire> I know you can't necessarily target a hostile steed directly
19:15 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0e6e35b0618b...5c60151f72a6
19:15 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 5c60151 - Fix: separate monster from player when determining number of objects in inventory to cancel.
19:23 <terrapin> okay looks like loggers killed the rider with stormbringer and then disintegrated the centaur with SoA in his offhand, all in one attack
19:24 <Umbire> fuckin' double bisection lmao
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20:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] recuerdo (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 94 points, T:526, killed by a goblin
20:19 <K2> hah nice
20:40 <terrapin> on further investigation I am now confused as to how Loggers managed to keep attacking after killing the rider---normally killing the opponent prevents further attacks
20:40 <terrapin> even level-drain past 0 with the main attack will prevent an offhand attack
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20:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law), 1076408 points, T:74249, killed by Yeenoghu
20:45 <Loggers_VIII> that is really funny game
20:45 <Loggers_VIII> real funny joke
20:45 <terrapin> nooo!
20:45 <terrapin> !lastgame
20:45 <Hecubus> terrapin: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1684800664.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/evilhack/dumplog/1685168079.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1685166911.evil.html
20:46 <Loggers_VIII> baphomet summons yeenoghu. I don't have free action, suddenly a beholder appears and stones me
20:46 <Loggers_VIII> fuck me dude
20:46 <Umbire> Omega-wombo'd
20:47 <Loggers_VIII> what was it all forrrrr
20:47 <Umbire> Life finds a way
20:47 <Loggers_VIII> I'm beginning to get discouraged
20:47 <K2> :/
20:48 <K2> getting dbl-teamed by demon lords is rough
20:48 <Loggers_VIII> the beholder was the killer, yeenoghu+baphomet isn't shit really
20:48 <Loggers_VIII> stoned me and cancelled my full healing potions
20:49 <Umbire> it's one thing for the game to find the exact thing that kills you early
20:50 <Umbire> another to get precision-sniped at a much later stage where relatively fewer things can kill you outright
20:50 <Umbire> goes to show what you can't take for granted but it's also an objectively shit way to lose
20:50 <Loggers_VIII> yea whatever I was asking for it going in there without free action
20:51 <Loggers_VIII> plus I left myself annotations about the beholder and just didn't pay attention
20:51 <Loggers_VIII> I guess I'll be continuing con dro in junethack
20:51 <Umbire> :c
20:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a silver banded mail entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:1422 (0:01:42)
20:55 <Loggers_VIII> why oh why do I sac before I'm level 3
20:57 <Umbire> because you live life on the edge
20:58 <Loggers_VIII> I live life suicidally is what it is
20:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 645 points, T:5207, killed by an orc zombie
21:00 <Loggers_VIII> I really oughta take a break but rage fills my veins dammit!
21:01 <Loggers_VIII> ok rage dissipated
21:01 <Loggers_VIII> I really need to get better at being angry
21:02 <Umbire> likewise
21:07 <Loggers_VIII> you should play some convict maybe that would help :P
21:09 <Umbire> also question about vanilla code: page for foocubus claims that chaotic same race sacrifice always summons foocubi if you've already generated Yeenoghu and Juiblex
21:09 <Umbire> is this true of all future same race sacs, or only the first one after both lords are generated
21:09 <Umbire> K2: ^
21:10 <Loggers_VIII> I can wiztest
21:11 <Umbire> my current 3.6.6 wiz is a gnome ranger so
21:11 <Umbire> ty
21:15 <terrapin> looks like an 8/9s chance of a foocubus? https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/97edec62b5218aaeb15e8994a7000e1d51c58b56/src/makemon.c#L1758
21:16 <Umbire> ah that's where they pick the major demon after
21:16 <Loggers_VIII> yeah wiztest returned mostly foocubi
21:16 <terrapin> or no it's not 8/9
21:16 <terrapin> but it's rare
21:17 <Umbire> that's the code used by ndemon yeah?
21:17 <Umbire> looks to be
21:17 <terrapin> yeah
21:17 <Umbire> Loggers_VIII, you say mostly
21:18 <Umbire> elaborate pls o:
21:18 <Loggers_VIII> well, all besides the first two cuz jubilex and yeenoghu
21:18 <Loggers_VIII> I have six foocubi here
21:18 <Umbire> but every single one after that?
21:18 <Umbire> ah
21:20 <Loggers_VIII> alright, got a horned devil
21:20 <Loggers_VIII> so it's not always foocubi
21:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 376 points, T:651, killed by trying to drink molten lava
21:23 <Umbire> 3.6.7 uses the same saves as 3.6.6 minus curses compatibility
21:23 <Umbire> so nuts to that (for the moment)
21:26 <Loggers_VIII> nethack's greatest inaccuracy is making cornuthaums give negative charisma
21:26 <Umbire> only if you're not a wizard
21:26 <Loggers_VIII> oh
21:26 <Umbire> there's a comment in the code about them having the "trained arrogance" required 
21:26 <Umbire> :3
21:27 <Loggers_VIII> well then I guess it would go to towel wearing not protecting you from poison gas
21:27 <Umbire> that's in current vanilla iirc
21:27 <Umbire> but introduced p. recently overall
21:27 <Loggers_VIII> yeah but it has to be wet and it's only half protection
21:28 <Loggers_VIII> not hitchhiker's guide approved
21:28 <Umbire> lmao
21:29 <Loggers_VIII> was rereading hitchhiker's guide lately and realized that the throne vanishing in a puff of logic was a reference this whole time and I totally forogt
21:29 <Loggers_VIII> *forgot
21:31 <Umbire> avoid zebra crossings after using up your local throne
21:31 <Loggers_VIII> lol
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> anyway, I'm turning in for the night I'm incompetent in my current state of self-pity :P
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> cya o/
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21:32 <Umbire> nini
22:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided black dragons, on T:59317 (18:24:46)
22:53 <bouquet> under what circumstances would wearing dragonbane not confer 25 str?
22:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:59660 (18:41:17)
22:54 <terrapin> all of them
22:54 <terrapin> that's a Gauntlets of Purity thing
22:54 <K2> heh
22:57 <bouquet> I must have been halucinating this whole time. I thought I had 25str wearing dragonbane.
22:58 <bouquet> I'm losing my mind
23:04 <bouquet> it's like I never played evilhack before, sheesh!
23:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic harp named Lucile", on T:60222 (19:02:48)
23:23 <bouquet> ok, I think I know what caught my eye... my TH was 44+ and now it's low 30s. I didn't lose any skill points and I'm wielding the same weapons with the same enchantments.
23:25 <terrapin> drow get a to-hit bonus in darkness
23:26 <bouquet> omg, I was in VoTD and expected that... but only just realized the priest's area is lit!
23:26 <bouquet> I should stop before I yasd
23:27 <bouquet> thanks, terrapin! You've been a great help for my dumbass questions
23:27 <terrapin> sure thing!
23:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:60502 (19:10:23)
23:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:60512 (19:10:44)
23:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5660 (1:08:13)
23:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6889 (1:19:09)