00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 1979 points, T:1751, killed by an enormous rat 01:07 game is playing a real cruel prank with how it placed this polytrap 01:20 ah mimic of the mines 01:20 my beloved 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8225 (6:00:51) 01:53 waow level tele on the loadstone square 01:53 fuk u 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8668 (6:13:02) 01:54 Now to work my way up and scope the other floors for loot as I darken them 02:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:52 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:03 Remind me, it's cannibalism for drow to eat elves, right? 03:14 @e?couatl 03:14 couatl (A) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 10 | Res: sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 2d4 bite drain str, 1d3 bite physical, 2d4 hug wrap | Align: 7 | flies, poisonous, stalker, infravis 03:14 @e?ancient pseudodragon 03:14 ancient pseudodragon (D) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 bite sleep, 1d4 sting drain str | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis 03:18 yes, that's cannibalism 03:18 ^note to self, keep away from oracle 03:18 else they'll come down with a severe case of suicidal ideation 04:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:22 whee ID book 04:23 yay magic lamp was cursed 04:23 ^said for the first time in the history of ever 04:37 You invoke an aura of darkness. Your magic lamp goes out! You are surrounded by darkness! 04:38 same magic lamp btw 04:44 !tell K2 Drow's #monster command puts out cursed magic lamps, unsure if intended behavior 04:44 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 04:46 ah, good find 05:05 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:05 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 05:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 Magicbane", on T:43807 (1 day, 4:27:48) 05:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 Magicbane", on T:43809 (1 day, 4:28:08) 05:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 Magicbane", on T:43810 (1 day, 4:28:20) 05:57 got it 06:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:43906 (1 day, 4:35:34) 06:13 muhahah 06:39 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 06:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a mithril shield of reflection entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:1170 (0:01:12) 08:19 . 08:19 K2: Message from Umbire at 2023-05-11 04:44 EDT: Drow's #monster command puts out cursed magic lamps, unsure if intended behavior 08:19 yeah that's a bug 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 2280 points, T:6147, killed by a wererat 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1688 (0:05:08) 08:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 2575 points, T:3179, killed by a piranha 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a dark elven short sword entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:546 (0:00:57) 09:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:44192 (1 day, 5:03:32) 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 1379 points, T:3847, killed by a large spider 09:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 1233 points, T:1511, killed by a piranha 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 18752 points, T:10606, killed by a horse, while dressing up 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:2312 (0:07:44) 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (krakens), on T:2533 (0:09:39) 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Bachelorette, on T:3072 (0:14:12) 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:3250 (0:17:29) 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:4916 (0:23:11) 10:49 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:53 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:6684 (0:28:27) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Lolth, on T:7000 (0:30:17) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9435 (0:43:08) 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a silver broadsword entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:10984 (0:50:51) 11:26 so i can suppress the feedback about aura of darkness snuffing out a lit cursed magic lamp. but it still puts it out 11:26 this is so weird 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:13261 (1:01:34) 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a glass stiletto entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:14048 (1:05:02) 11:35 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:15531 (1:11:47) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:67075 (1 day, 4:29:44) 11:53 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:67630 (1 day, 4:35:21) 12:04 oh snap 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:05 man I'm trapped in a gelcube with no escape items :( 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 46372 points, T:17904, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 12:07 :( 12:08 yopuy delighht in it :( 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:69567 (1 day, 4:47:54) 12:09 \o/ 12:09 false 12:09 lol 12:09 not even a little delight? 12:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:10 no 12:10 I delight in seeing you overcome adversity 12:11 I delight in seeing you all win even when the odds are stacked against you 12:11 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 12:11 aww 12:12 evilhack = tough love 12:12 :P 12:12 aint that the truth 12:12 gelatinous cubes should swallow your iron ball and then drag you around the dungeon behind them on your chain 12:13 hah 12:13 a giant could pick it up and throw it and you go trailing behind it 12:13 oh the bugs that could produce 12:13 such sweet suffering 12:14 hah 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 61 points, T:698, killed by a goblin 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:71008 (1 day, 5:06:13) 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:1853 (0:15:06) 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 47077 points, T:15424, killed by a flesh golem 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 516 points, T:2065, killed by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food 12:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3257 (0:38:49) 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 790 points, T:2345, suffocated by the water elemental of Vhaeraun 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 130 points, T:502, killed by a flint stone 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Deuce (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4588 (1:48:05) 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 2112 points, T:709, killed by the Goblin King 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 186 points, T:1148, killed by a goblin 13:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 471 points, T:1636, killed by a rabid dog 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 635 points, T:1610, killed by a giant rat, while praying 13:15 chameleon spawns right next to me, immediately transforms into an elder minotaur and one-shots my mount out from under me 13:19 owie 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 6468 points, T:5570, killed by a giant leech 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Deuce (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2684 points, T:6498, quit 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:951 (0:04:03) 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:73046 (1 day, 6:06:36) 13:36 wanna ride a DRIDER 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1215 points, T:3716, killed by a coyote 13:41 i made the mistake of reading posts on RGRN 13:42 who tf is recranger 13:44 they and janis are locked in a 'evilhack is hard so lets call it unbalanced instead' echo chamber 13:44 i know i should ignore it but that kinda pisses me off 13:45 oh well. i'll get over it 13:46 haters gonna hate 13:46 even vanilla can seem oppressively hard when you dont understand mechanics 13:47 don't understand why they would rather whine in an empty room than ask for advice here 13:48 just keep linking all the ascensions from nethackscoreboard for them :-) 13:48 * K2 shurgs 13:48 they've giving hack'em some flak too, though not as much 13:49 K2: even _I_ don't read RGRN these days, I think you can be excused :-) 13:49 heh 13:49 and I'm finding it difficult to believe that Janis was stroller 13:50 watching some of his games (parasite) he's making some rookie mistakes, and often 13:50 there's no way the player with the most nethack ascensions ever would play like that 13:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:51 just boggles the mind 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 296 points, T:683, killed by Gollum 13:52 c'mere krm26 i need a hug 13:52 wrap those harry manly dad-arms around me and squeeze tight like I need it 13:52 *hairy 13:53 i don't have a bug but i have a suggestion 13:53 no i will not shave your back 13:53 i don't think drow knights should be able to ride horses -- just spiders and lizards. they have too many mount options :-) 13:53 krm26 I was debating that actually 13:54 i didnt want cave lizards to be on par with pony/horse/warhorse, i wanted them to be stronger. which means they'd be too strong as a starting steed 13:54 start em on a spider 13:54 cave spider 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 137 points, T:437, killed by a small mimic 13:54 super-weak but has the cool entangle 13:54 without looking - the 3 spider progression is more like cat/dog, not as strong as a horse 13:55 the webbing is both amazing and a pain in the butt, it is great 13:55 (there should be a way to acid away the webs tho) 13:55 a drow can successfully untrap a web 13:55 the map gets pretty cluttered with permawebs 13:55 every time 13:55 OH 13:55 OHHHH 13:55 never even tried 13:55 :) 13:55 that is amazing 13:56 the drow section for the wiki is coming 13:56 i need to just bust it out 13:57 there is an infrequent bug i've seen where drow gear is given its unidentified form at range but i haven't seen it recently 13:58 hmm 13:59 i think the last time it happened it was something way off in the darkness picking up drow bolts 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 1341 points, T:1485, killed by the Goblin King 14:01 so this is kicking my ass currently - https://termbin.com/inecz 14:01 Umbire pointed out that drow using aura of darkness would put out a lit cursed magic lamp 14:02 the above termbin, that successfully prevents snuff_lit() from being called there, I put a pline in there to confirm 14:02 but the lamp still goes out 14:03 so i dunno wtf is making it go out still 14:03 ... impact_arti_light() doesn't do it / the "} else" with no "{" looks sus 14:03 yeah but its allowed 14:04 that break: in the for loop should mean 'oh this is a cursed magic lamp? stop here' 14:04 ; 14:04 it shouldn't process any of the rest of that code 14:07 operator precedence? 14:07 Humour me and put () around "otmp->otyp == MAGIC_LAMP" 14:08 sure 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 277 points, T:2008, killed by handling a lucern hammer that was made of iron 14:08 unique death? :) 14:09 https://termbin.com/qvcra 14:09 Loggers_VIII heh prob 14:09 Pinkbeast made no difference 14:10 I'm as confused as you are 14:11 (possibly more so) 14:12 so later on in that routine 14:12 do_clear_area() is called 14:12 which calls set_lit 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Neu), 41 points, T:649, killed by an air elemental of Vhaeraun, while praying 14:13 set_lit() in its routine, can call snuff_light_source() 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 341 points, T:1079, killed by a hobgoblin 14:22 but that shouldnt matter... 14:22 i am missing something. simple probably 14:24 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:27 oh my goodness what is happening on rgrn 14:27 I'm beginning to doubt this recranger person has ever actually played evil 14:28 argh I'd rather play more Con Dro than read all that 14:30 :/ 14:30 "I don't sell to your kind here" I'll be back with stormbringer, damn you >:( 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 399 points, T:679, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 14:30 he 14:30 h 14:31 oh.. I guess not 14:31 just fell from level two all the way to oracle! 14:31 ow 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 146 points, T:694, killed by a jackal 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:1829 (0:02:32) 14:48 run 14:48 run is happening 14:48 run Loggers run 14:48 I think I'm still racing terrapin to the astral plane 14:49 unless he ascended when I wasn't looking 14:49 unfortunately I'm busy this week so can't pull an all-nighter and win that way :( 14:50 I think he just completed the quest 14:52 you know, I once had a dream of getting the first 0.8.2 asc, the first drow asc, and the first drow convict asc all in one fell swoop 14:52 then I escaped the dungeon :P 14:52 :) 14:53 heh 14:53 well I've just arrived at the VotD 14:53 catch me up! 14:53 only?? 14:53 only? 14:53 I thought you were at the wizard or something lol 14:54 I'm speeding along! 14:54 09:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:44192 (1 day, 5:03:32) 14:55 yeah, very fast! 14:55 ooh wraith 14:56 time for some wraith baiting 14:58 i've cleared minetown that's it 14:58 drow priest 14:58 you gotta win 14:58 before june? prob not 14:58 beat krm26 15:04 I have a silly idea 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4913 (0:16:02) 15:06 silly idea was a success] 15:06 aklys+jumping boots go brr 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4961 (0:16:39) 15:10 aklys for the win\ 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Deuce (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 206 points, T:1359, killed by a water elemental 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3144 points, T:3156, poisoned by a killer bee 15:33 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 15:36 gotta do something about that -- nothing in the house blipped during that outage but of course it took out my internet provider's subnet. 15:37 bleh 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Lolth, on T:12104 (0:43:38) 15:40 lolth still won't choose me :-( 15:41 heehee 15:41 man I want a wish 15:41 c'mon game give me a lamp or something 15:42 75k turns through castle, not even an OIL lamp if you can believe it. 15:42 I can believe it 15:46 I only needed 3 wishes for my second artifact! 15:49 what was it 15:52 magicbane to forge the superstaff 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4827 (0:24:41) 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:14105 (0:55:08) 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 darts on an altar, on T:5145 (0:26:44) 16:01 yes i saw that mobileuser, good job wooo 16:01 \o/ 16:02 it must have been your anti-jinx ;-) 16:02 weeee 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10696 points, T:6177, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:77081 (1 day, 8:06:06) 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:17412 (1:08:32) 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:77091 (1 day, 8:07:00) 16:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:20114 (1:19:57) 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo: Loggery Winner", on T:20410 (1:22:19) 16:35 the fountains provide :) 16:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:21159 (1:30:11) 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1110 (0:05:10) 16:41 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:42 "Wait. I shall polymorph into a grid bug to give thee a fighting chance!" *immediately polymorphs into a marilith* 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21616 (1:33:33) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a steel knife entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:22860 (1:39:55) 16:52 jk bro 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:23421 (1:46:04) 17:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:06 lol 17:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:46655 (1 day, 6:41:21) 17:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:46666 (1 day, 6:41:59) 17:39 -!- mariari has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41 Staff of the Archmagi glows with a black aura. 17:41 wow, that must be some very powerful spellcaster 17:42 cursed my weapon 17:43 K2 I don't get it, there is nothing nearby 17:43 what 17:44 wizard of yendor harassment? 17:44 all I was doing was reading a spellbook 17:44 no I'm not at that stage yet 17:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:45 there is demilich in the distance (we can't see each other directly) , but no drows 17:45 if you can see it it can prob see you 17:45 I remember something about books being able to curse items but I don't think any books are actually high enough level to do it 17:46 How much did the book weigh? 17:46 cancellation spellbook 17:46 but I read it successfully 17:46 K2 I can only see it in the distance when blind 17:47 in xnh books can curse themselves, but not other stuff, maybe evilhack has a variation where they can? 17:47 Double-check your message history 17:48 spellbooks dont curse other objects in evilhack 17:49 "The dark elven sergeant invokes an aura of darkness." 17:50 maybe he extinguished my magic lamp 17:50 can he also curse my light-spreading Staff of the Archmagi 17:50 ?? 17:51 oh yeah thats a side effect 17:51 i'm actually working on that 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:24841 (1:56:52) 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24842 (1:56:54) 17:51 oh, so just known bug :-) 17:51 artifacts can have their light diminished and can sometimes be cursed from it 17:51 ^ vanilla behavior 17:51 but 17:52 there are some cases where that doesnt make sense 17:52 bedtime for me... 17:52 hoping i can get a fix before the weekend 17:52 gnite mobileuser o/ 17:52 night mobileuser o/ 17:52 thx! 17:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:25156 (2:00:05) 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing his quest, on T:25161 (2:00:16) 17:57 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 18:09 k2: pretty sure you're right to pinpoint the snuff_light_source() call. Why wouldn't it matter? 18:09 hey K2 18:11 terrapin well i was thinking it shouldnt matter 18:11 but maybe it does 18:11 heya Umbire 18:11 any news re: darkness putting out cursed magic lamps 18:11 working on it 18:12 terrapin this is what I have so far - https://termbin.com/35m7b 18:12 yeah just stuck a check for cursed magic lamps in snuff_light_source and it fixes it 18:12 in tandem with your read.c modifications of course 18:12 this effectively prevents (void) snuff_lit(otmp); from being called but lamp still goes out 18:13 oh 18:13 hah i was typing and didnt see your comment :) 18:13 whatcha got? 18:14 side note - I just put a bunch of drow stuff up on the wiki (evilhack page) 18:14 added || obj->otyp == MAGIC_LAMP && obj->cursed to this: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/69dce64b94688a544e581aacb99f93e85d3a3953/src/light.c#L617 18:14 Loggers_VIII put the new forged artifact info up there too 18:15 oh cool 18:15 derrr yeah that makes total sense 18:17 seriously, sometimes i cant see the easiest things 18:17 i get almost all the way there and then get the dumb 18:18 side notes: darkening also curses darkness sources like shadow dragon scales, and putting on shadow dragon scales hurts drow ("Ow! The light hurts!") 18:19 yeah mobileuser points that out 18:19 pointed 18:19 scales use artifact_light just like artifacts like sunsword do 18:20 scales/shield of light 18:20 and putting on shadow dragon scales hurts drow ("Ow! The light hurts!") <--- this bit I was not aware of 18:21 just tested your edit terrapin, that works beautifully 18:21 so one down, a couple to go 18:21 (until more bugs are found) 18:41 ok the 2nd one down, ow it hurts is left 18:43 ah yeah i see that one 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:79906 (1 day, 9:46:41) 18:59 ok got that one knocked out too 18:59 nice 18:59 krm26 yay \o/ 19:06 ok first horror at vecna -- what did i get 19:06 claw para engulf para claw tp wither poison 19:06 yay! 19:06 wont even kill my mount 19:07 i want an ice box to put live pets in to keep them until i'm ready for another backup mount 19:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:124, killed by a falling object 19:07 artifact "pet larder" 19:09 anyone have any experience with whether dirge is good enough for vecna since he isnt acid resistant, or if i should really go blow some time leveling 2h? kinda hoping dirge will do it 19:09 actually thinking about dual wielding sunsword/dirge even though i am drow 19:10 just use the sword of kas it takes like five minutes to level it to basic skill 19:12 do not use sunsword as a drow 19:12 is there a bigger penalty than just being lit? cuz the chance at one-shotting is pretty nice 19:12 your hit point/power regen will drop significantly, plus your to-hit goes in the shitter 19:12 Does a cursed magic lamp override or 19:12 no 19:12 Thought not 19:13 almost ready to commit these fixes, just another thing i noticed... 19:13 man i hope i get the hand 19:14 "almost ready to commit these fixes, just another thing I noticed" five hours later 19:14 gotta test :) 19:16 none of the bane instakills work on uniques 19:16 they just do more damage 19:17 did that change? i've killed lucifer in one swing with SoA 19:18 no SoA/vorpal/tsurugi of muramasa work 19:18 just banes 19:18 but sunsword won't kill vecna and demonbane won't kill lords & princes 19:18 they fixed demonbane :( 19:19 k2 is prejudiced against priests 19:19 would be cool if HotG had a chance to instakill still 19:19 yeah seriously 19:19 actually angelslayer probably shouldn't work on Saint Michael? 19:20 saint michael is a low tier boss he doesn't get special privileges like that 19:20 mm dammit another one of those things i always forget -- can't wield a cursed 2h to uncurse with basic remove curse spell, right? 19:20 yea 19:21 since you need your hands to cast or something 19:21 which is dumb since twoweaponing and shields both exist 19:22 actually giantslayer works on e.g. Surtur as well. I guess it's "some bane instakills don't work on uniques" 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29451 (2:32:59) 19:23 maybe you toss a weapon in the air real quick to cast and then catch it 19:23 heh 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:80589 (1 day, 10:20:11) 19:24 first wish? no wonder it took 80000 turns to kill vecna 19:24 it took me forever to get mr 19:25 and also forever to get dirge, no drow/elves spawned for like 40k turns :-) 19:26 hahah yeah I remember you talking about that 19:26 just name sting or something smh 19:26 i did, you don't always get elves. 19:27 and when you do they don't always leave bodies 19:27 and when they do sometimes your lizard eats them before you can do anything 19:27 because anything bad that can happen will happen 19:27 i presume i was pol pot in a previous life 19:28 pfff 19:28 the rng's been on a mean streak lately 19:29 i absolutely cannot relate 19:30 oh yeah 19:30 mister artifact conjuror over here 19:32 "the arch-lich turns to flee" I hate when they do that 19:32 hm 19:33 oh and now there's gremlins 19:33 why is the castle always insane 19:34 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/69dce64b9468...2b045340a7a4 19:34 [EvilHack] k21971 2b04534 - Fix: aura of darkness could snuff out/curse other sources of darkness; shadow dragon scales aura of darkness hurting light haters. 19:35 Why does naming Orcrist/Sting spawn some elves to reclaim it? That didn't happen in The Hobbit. 19:35 well naming those artifacts didnt happen in the hobbit either 19:35 i'm allowed some creative license 19:37 cuz it's funny 19:37 i am totally confused by the "didn't happen in the hobbit" comment. nothing related to nethack happened in the hobbit :-) 19:38 I like to imagine there's always a pack of asshole elves stalking you 19:38 anyway nethack is very clearly set in the 4th age 19:38 expensive cameras 19:38 very modern 19:38 credit cards, very very modern 19:39 aule made the cameras and credit cards 19:39 he's always making crap he shouldn't be 19:39 the dwarves used the first credit card 19:39 nethack is set in the late 1980s nothing can change my mind 19:39 at Macy's 19:39 lol 19:39 :P 19:40 always have bette davis eyes playing in the background when playing nethack 19:40 brb 19:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:41 there's handling for the HotG to instakill demons/undead and do severe damage to demon/undead bosses 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:81367 (1 day, 10:37:36) 19:41 dammit he got peg 19:41 shoulda left her behind 19:43 ah hell 19:43 craaaaaap 19:43 when i made saint michael into an actual boss angel and not just a named archangel, i forgot to add the bitfields for him. for trophy tracking purposes for junethack 19:44 to add that will break saves 19:44 gdammit 19:44 i mean he's still a unique 19:44 hmm 19:44 crapcrapcrap 19:44 i tollldddd youooo too add dummy space to all that crap! 19:44 sssssh 19:45 0.8.3 incoming 19:45 ^ kidding 19:47 Noisytoot: relevant https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3743 19:48 hehehe 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:81625 (1 day, 10:46:00) 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:81627 (1 day, 10:46:11) 19:51 latest commits are live. if playing and want to experience them, save/reload 19:57 ok, i'm now half vecna 19:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:82093 (1 day, 11:01:30) 20:08 you get the hand? 20:11 yeah he did 20:11 taking a peek at his game 20:11 cool 20:13 also k2 I forgot to tell you about this, but I've been getting messages like "your dragonhide deteriorates", but it seems nothing actually deteriorates 20:16 actually, looking at the ttyrec, the AC of the armor does go down, but there's no visible difference 20:16 Ctrl-R to fix curses bug? 20:17 -- how does blessed amnesia work these days? forget all skills? 20:18 yeah 20:18 but then can retrain them back to what they were 20:18 oh super 20:18 need int >- 13 20:18 *>= 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:3448 (0:20:12) 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Kni Dro Fem Cha) murdered Nay, her faithful nightmare, on T:82790 (1 day, 11:24:34) 20:28 wtf 20:28 why isn't my reflection covering my mount 20:29 it just doesn't :( 20:29 never has 20:29 grr 20:29 grrrr 20:29 polished barding it is 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:30755 (2:59:35) 20:30 should offhand weapons be allowed to enchant-ID after killing a bunch of monsters? 20:30 currently it only happens for mainhand weapons, which seems odd 20:31 arghrgrhg of course the WoW is 0:0 20:31 yeah its just main hand 20:31 well, it was 0:1, but you know what I mean 20:32 Loggers_VIII are you playing with curses or just tty 20:32 curses 20:32 that's prob it then 20:32 turning off curses doesn't seem to do anything, but I don't know if it would in this situation 20:32 update_inventory(); isn't being called when a monster casts the spell to deteriorate your armor 20:32 i'm betting 20:32 ah 20:33 i'll test it out tonight, about to have dinner 20:33 back in a bit 20:33 o/ 20:33 I coincidentally am also going to dinner 20:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3933 (0:24:21) 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:26134 (8:38:43) 20:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4430 points, T:7130, zombified by a gnome zombie 21:21 god sleep is such a silly spell 21:22 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:27174 (13:20:17) 21:22 Boooooooooooooooooooooo 21:22 I wanted a marker 21:27 gray gold and 2 black in Ludios too, no shot without reflection 21:32 >praying uncursed my magic lamp 21:32 well that's just not on 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28824 (9:35:10) 21:56 loggers you're on to something. even in tty dragonhide isnt showing being deteriorated 21:59 same for my drow chain mail 21:59 and mithril chain 21:59 yup... strange things are afoot at the circle K 22:02 it used to show didnt it? 22:02 yes 22:02 i wonder what I broke 22:03 it's from a commit from a month ago that seems to only introduce a bug :P 22:03 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/06c26ff26faedc3d5615ec56154fa2589cbed243 22:03 it skips displaying erosion for supermaterials 22:03 dammit 22:05 just to clarify something I've been wondering: is Angelslayer's flame supposed to be some weird magical fire that can damage resistant enemies? Because that makes some sense to me but the wiki suggests otherwise 22:05 no, but hellfire can 22:05 ... 22:05 oh 22:05 yeah i just confused myself there for a sec 22:06 angelslayers flame would be hellfire wouldnt it 22:06 aha 22:06 neat! 22:06 :) 22:09 ok fixed the deteriorated thing 22:19 oh what was the deal with drow & r_data? 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3726 (0:48:33) 22:23 oh 22:23 hah i hope some edits I made didnt accidentally slip into that last commit 22:23 i dont think so 22:24 nope 22:24 i gotta review that again 22:24 lemme push this current fix real quick 22:24 for the deteriorated stuff 22:25 sure thing 22:30 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/2b045340a7a4...6785d6e2c67a 22:30 [EvilHack] k21971 6785d6e - Fix: revert commit 06c26ff, extra check for what can/can't spawn eroded. 22:31 ok so 22:32 drow monsters are supposed to be hurt by a flash or light 22:32 but racial ones (drow soldiers, etc) are not 22:33 hates_light() includes is_drow() 22:33 but it cant accept racial_drow() 22:34 oh 22:34 so places where it calls hates_light() just add && racial_drow() 22:34 that may work 22:35 or call hates_light(r_data(mon)) 22:35 i think i tried that 22:35 didnt work 22:35 oh huh 22:35 can try again 22:39 ok that did work 22:40 i coulda swore there was a case where it wasnt working 22:43 maybe it was light_hits_light_hater 22:43 i'll dbl check 22:58 yeah we're good 22:58 and i found another small bug in process 22:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:12 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±8] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6785d6e2c67a...d5ffd4b5d542 23:12 [EvilHack] k21971 d5ffd4b - Fix: racial drow were unaffected by hates_light(), gremlins fleeing from sources of darkness. 23:12 !who 23:12 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] UmberConductor [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:15 latest commits are live 23:17 nice PR to vanilla nethack terrapin 23:21 thanks. I finally got around to the herculean task of writing three lines of code! 23:22 :) 23:28 as a wielder of xiuhcoatl and angelslayer about to face the ice queen's realm, I am highly motivated to address something I've been wondering about for a while: 23:28 what is up with elemental vulnerabilities? 23:29 say you face off against a monster with a vulnerability to fire 23:29 they'll take 1.5x the damage vs a fire-based attack 23:30 a) should they apply to melee attacks (they don't currently) b) should they apply to explosions, even though explosions already increase the damage for a similar set of monsters? (they do currently) c) should they apply to fireballs and cold cones, even though those already do bonus damage against a similar set of monsters (they don't currently) 23:30 sorry I had a lot to type 23:30 1 and 3 dont? 23:30 hah shit 23:31 but the bonuses from being e.g. vulnerable to cold and resistant to fire are supposed to stack when applicable? 23:32 right 23:32 so if a monster is 100 fire res 23:32 100% 23:32 and a spellcasting monster casts vulnerability to fire on them 23:32 their resistance drops to 50% 23:32 sorry, vs player 23:33 if a player is 100% fire res 23:33 that whole thing could probably use a revamp. it came from sporkhack, and has had a couple fixes since 23:33 i see 23:36 what I'm really wondering though is this: take, for instance, a frost salamander, which is vulnerable to fire and resistant to cold. if you basic fireball it, it does a bonus 7 damage since it resists cold but not fire. if you advanced fireball it, it does double damage per explosion since it resists cold but not fire, and then the damage is multiplied by a further 1.5 for its cold vulnerability. 23:36 are the resists-foo-but-not-bar bonuses meant to be there or just hold-overs from vanilla which didn't have the vulnerability flags? 23:39 hold overs 23:46 cool