00:03 -!- arahaelWeb has joined #evilhack 00:03 How can I find out what this means? │Dlvl:29 $:0 HP:135(139) Pw:122(122) AC:-42 MC:3 TH:51 Xp:24 T:47149 6d:22h Fly R│ 00:03 Specifically, that truncated "Fly R" 00:29 "You feel limber".  The intrinsic should perhaps have a different description.  I wondered for a moment if I was in fact, in the process of getting stoned. 00:34 -!- Loggers_Twin has joined #evilhack 00:34 arahael about your status being cut off, you can press control-x to see 00:35 but you should probably add another status line in your rcfile 00:35 e.g. OPTIONS=statuslines:3 00:37 Ah, much better - thanks. 00:38 no problem 00:39 !tell imanity congrats on your win! 7 conducts ain't too shabby either, especially for (I think) your first evil asc 00:39 I'm on it, Loggers_Twin. 00:45 -!- Loggers_Twin has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:50 How does familiarity work again? 01:01 -!- arahaelWeb has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:11 I got this monk I haven't touched for over a month ready to get the amulet but I can't bring myself to face Asmodeus again. 01:26 Real cute, two rock moles in the soko zoo 01:39 -!- arahaelWeb has joined #evilhack 01:52 Bah, no way to bring the drawbridge down, have to go all the way back to my stash. 02:08 lol incubus in the zoo took off everything BUT my gloves 02:08 would've been real funny if I'd been wielding my c corpse 02:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:30808 (20:48:38) 02:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2510 points, T:5626, killed by a bugbear 02:48 Wooooooo 02:48 orc temple 02:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:33057 (21:27:42) 02:50 Teleported into the back halls, took one random zap 02:51 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:52 In the past I nearly had a game ending experience there with unwanted random teleport, when I got teleported into the secret room behind the lava 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 750 points, T:2241, killed by Mr. Ngebel; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 03:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by Set, on T:33264 (21:42:18) 03:07 F 03:10 ...lmao 03:10 winter wolf in that exact chamber 03:10 didn't need to do shit 03:36 heh 03:37 -!- arahaelWeb has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:47 Why won't these two scrolls of scare monster stack with these other two scrolls of scare monster? Both stacks are uncursed. 03:53 I think because it is also tracked how many times you have picked them up? 03:54 for the "turn to dust" stuff 03:54 Yes, it is 03:55 it's nice if a pet can pick them up, you can then safely loot the pet 04:01 Oh cool, can brighten shiny shields with a scroll of light 04:03 mobileuser: No, that's dependant on beautitude. 04:03 ...it's also very much dependent on how many times you pick one up 04:04 if you pick up an uncursed scroll that's been picked up once it disintegrates 04:04 Oh, interesting, so 'uncursed' has two states? 04:04 (For these scrolls) 04:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Scroll_of_scare_monster#Beatitude_and_disintegration 04:05 So I guess this means I'm going to have to use two potions of holy water to bless them. 04:15 "You feel hale!" 04:23 Sickness resistance. 04:23 @e?shimmering dragon 04:23 shimmering dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath magic missile, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: 4 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 04:23 @e?Oracle 04:23 Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 04:24 so there's a chance™ 04:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:50381 (1 day, 2:37:52) 04:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:28 Hmm. I have a feeling that 151 HP isn't really enough for fighting Vecna. 04:30 Also wondering if I should use the Sword of Kas as a neutral monk. 04:30 I suspect not as I don't have teh skill slot for it. 04:31 And I've never hit with a wielded weapon... 04:35 Oh, yes. Alhoons. 04:36 151 seems low, unless you can cheese it with boulder fort 04:37 How come I can see the invisible alhoons!? 04:38 with a boulder fort I try to kill the liches/alhoon first, then walk to vecna. after a hit vecna will teleport to the stairs. I then wait for vecna to teleport from the stairs again, then I use levelport to previous level. Then I go back to my boulder fort. 04:39 alhoon has ESP? 04:39 Ah, ESP might explain it. 04:39 That sounds like a great strategy. 04:43 I'll need to write it. 04:56 Hmm. Unknown shambling horror in the vecna level. 04:56 * arahael never knows how to open the vecna drawbridge without music. 04:58 Can I safely stand diagonally from the drawbridge while it opens? 05:01 I think yes... 05:01 diagonally is safe 05:02 but you have to hope nobody will zap striking at it 05:02 Thanks. That's a particualrly worrisome drawbridge. I'm through now. 05:02 which is why I usually put on life saving first :-) 05:03 and once inside I destroy it from a safe distance 05:03 Woah, lifesaving survives drawbridges? I thought there was no defense at all. 05:04 whee iguana dropped bag of holding 05:04 arahael: it's not a defense, you just get to continue the game after :B 05:06 Ha. :) 05:07 I'm thinking I should probably write a cursed geno scroll and do nurse dancing. 05:08 oh neat my dragon ate a shambler 05:09 Amphibious digger/hider with complete monster MR but otherwise it's a glorified xan 05:09 Darn, I teleported away from vecna too early. Vecna's going to be on the stairs when I return. 05:42 mobileuser: Vecna has reflection, so boulder fort is tricky. 05:42 And darting it is... Goign to be annoying. 05:47 ah, no large stack of shuriken then 05:47 Just used it all up. 05:47 I've made myself a hole in the fort so that there's *only* one monster at a time, but vecna has yet to take that bait. 05:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:52691 (1 day, 4:00:20) 05:48 somehow covetous monsters don't like to occupy the space of a destroyed boulder... bit of a mystery 05:48 Got the hand. 05:48 \o/ 05:49 Was worried vecna woudl hit hard, but it was easy. 05:52 Darn. So... It's the hand, or the dragonbane. 05:53 Not sure if it's worth loosing reflection. 06:00 I'm thinking it's indeed not worth it. 06:00 Would be a damn fine glove if I was an illithid though. 06:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:53167 (1 day, 4:16:32) 06:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:14 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:16 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 06:19 Random tame ochre jelly!? 06:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful ochre jelly, on T:53884 (1 day, 4:32:23) 06:20 Oops. 06:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54234 (1 day, 4:38:43) 06:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:40267 (1 day, 1:06:28) 06:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40267 (1 day, 1:06:29) 06:29 Get eaten loser 06:30 I just hope I don't run into Gratz. 06:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Set, on T:40336 (1 day, 1:11:51) 06:34 How do I un-cancel my pegasus? 06:35 (Does it even matter?) 06:36 Well, nevermind that question, it's no-longer relevant! :( 06:38 for the future: smashing a monster with restore ability uncancels it 06:39 Ah, thanks. 06:39 Sadly, the reason it's no-longer relevant is because it got disintegrated. 06:40 no cure for that one :-) 06:42 Yes. :( 06:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:40841 (1 day, 1:20:32) 06:45 Oops, Orcuas has been besides me this whole time? I was focused on the alhoon! 06:45 This isn't the Orcus level is it? 06:46 Is the Orcus level different in evil? 06:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:55065 (1 day, 5:01:02) 06:51 it's a bit different from vanilla (evil has lava) but it's largely the same 06:52 not genocided alhoons yet? 06:52 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:52 I hope you didn't lose too much max HP to Orcus... 06:52 12 HP. 06:53 No, 13 HP. 06:53 could have been worse 06:53 Could've been much worse. I was also only "Skilled" in Martial Arts. 06:54 did the alhoon do that? 06:54 The previous one did. 06:55 bastard 06:55 Yep. 06:55 So I'm torn between nurse dancing... And simply genociding alhoons. 06:55 Either way, I need to write that scroll. 06:55 Oh, which I can't. 06:55 I haven't discovered it yet. 06:57 I can still wish some up though. 07:10 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:11 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18 Damn. Mis-timed my amulet! 07:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1866850 points, T:55417, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 07:19 Damn shit painful. *cries*. 07:19 That was 10000% preventable. 07:20 F :-( 07:20 that is pretty rare at such an advanced level 07:22 :( 07:23 nooo 07:23 kinda surprised you couldn't just punch your way out in time at that level 07:23 I wasn't grand master. 07:24 !lastgame Arahael 07:24 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1681278414.evil.html 07:24 I thought I had another turn left, like, you turn blue, then there's one more status, THEN you die. 07:25 I guess that's a super painful way to learn that once you turn blue, THAT's your last turn. 07:25 Look at how many amulets of life saving I had! 07:25 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 07:25 oh man, took OFF life saving to do that :-/ 07:26 That's why it's so freaking painful. 07:26 I should've just kept the damn thing on. 07:27 Lesson learned, I guess. The supremely hard way. 07:27 not even bones I think because of the portal 07:27 I think that's a demon level too. 07:27 Such a damn waste. 07:31 demon levels are fine for bones 07:32 Come to think of it, I did suffocate *really* fast. 07:32 Looking at the message history, I think I had *one* punch, took off lifesaving, then died. 07:32 you blew a round failing to stethoscope 07:32 Ah. 07:32 while deaf 07:32 That doesn't normally cost a turn though? 07:33 success doesn't cost a round unless repeated 07:33 one free successful application between each normal round 07:33 if you apply twice in a row successfully it eats a round; if it fails due to deafness you eat a round 07:33 Wow, so that's a kicker then. 07:33 I didn't apply twice, pretty sure. 07:34 So yeah, cost a turn because deaf. 07:34 So I think I had just three rounds before suffocating. 07:34 looks like you applied the stethoscope while deaf, then applied your unicorn horn maybe? 07:34 then took off your life saving 07:35 So four rounds then. That sounds about normal, then. So stupid. 07:35 You can no longer breathe. 07:35 What do you want to use or apply? [dfgpqsuN or ?*] 07:35 You can't hear anything! 07:35 You hit the gelatinous cube. 07:35 What do you want to use or apply? [dfgpqsuN or ?*] 07:35 Your vision seems to brighten for a moment but is normal now. 07:35 You're turning blue. 07:35 You were wearing a blessed silver amulet of life saving (24 aum). 07:35 You finish disrobing. 07:35 You suffocate. 07:35 stethoscope, punch, unicorn horn, amulet removal, death 07:35 When I saw that, "You're turning blue", I thought I had time, still. 07:36 on engulfment i usually do (1) remove breathing from bag, (2) remove amulet, (3) put on breathing, and i always feel like i'm gonna run out of time :-) 07:37 but before ascension i typically eat breathing so it is one less thing for me to worry about 07:37 Yes, and I think you'd be right there. This is why I kept breathing in open inentory. 07:37 zapping that wand of teleport at the cube would also have been good 07:37 Sounds like you have one, maybe two turns. 07:37 mobileuser: Only if no-telo. 07:37 after your 4th turn you will suffocate 07:37 Is it no-telo? 07:37 demon lair 07:38 so I expect no-tele 07:38 krm26: Would you still have time for that if you had to remove an amulet? 07:39 This is so tight. 07:39 yes, you get 4 actions before death i think. so my unbag, remove, put on works fine 07:39 I mean zapping away a problem hostile is typically good even outside of no-tele 07:39 it just still makes me irrationally nervous 07:39 it seems like 07:39 krm26: I don't blame you at all. 07:39 I could've also simply invoked the EotA. 07:39 Umbire not if you are transported with it 07:39 ah you mean while inside 07:39 yeah 07:40 I should've eaten the ring. 07:40 but i like to always have a wand of teleport out for "close encounters" 07:40 good point arahael 07:40 branch porting 07:40 branch porting won't take the cube with you? 07:41 hmmm 07:41 krm26: Never tested that! 07:41 i would assume it would 07:41 I don't think so, but.... 07:41 wiz test? 07:41 Would be good to know. 07:42 I expect the cube would not come with you 07:42 I'm really not sure now. 07:42 I think it could come. 07:42 it's not a follower 07:42 Fair point. 07:54 btw I'm not sure about the current rules for teleport on demon lairs where the unique demon has been killed 07:54 does it become a teleport level? 07:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1682 (0:08:22) 07:55 I see that is the case in 3.7, not sure about evilhack 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:10875 (1:53:52) 07:58 That cube's eatin good today eh 07:58 * arahael glares at VaderFLAG. 07:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:59 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 08:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3208 points, T:2363, killed by a soldier ant 08:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:11073 (1:56:57) 08:02 man that was an exhausting aphrodite 08:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:606 (0:04:34) 08:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1132 (0:08:18) 08:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:22 !lastgame arahael 08:22 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1681904809.evil.html 08:23 Loggers_VIII: It's bloody depressing. 08:24 Loggers_VIII: You'll want https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1681278414.evil.html 08:24 yeah just found it 08:24 ouch 08:24 what happened? 08:25 Loggers_VIII: I thought I had one more turn. 08:25 ah 08:25 I also have been suffocated because I thought the "turning blue" message was second to last 08:26 That's exactly it. 08:26 that's rough 08:27 K2: Is it possible to move "turning blue" to the previous turn, and replace that one with "have turned blue"? This will put it in line with the cockatrice warnings. 08:27 but hey, look on the bright side 08:27 Ie, still the same number of turns, but the messages aligned so that you get the same number and same urgency of the messages. 08:27 there's now two nice monk bones in gehennom up for grabs 08:27 Loggers_VIII: That's got a portal. 08:28 could still happen 08:29 I'll leave those for you guys to enjoy because I'm trying once again to play hackem 08:31 I don't think a level with a portal can be bones 08:31 and yay hackem ;-) 08:32 oh I didn't know that 08:32 well there's still one nice bones, if you consider a bones with an awake graz'zt nice :) 08:33 cancel wands at the ready! 08:34 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/timeout.c#L263-L269 08:34 there is no previous turn to move it to. just need to learn what 'turning blue' means/implicates 08:34 ^ vanilla code 08:35 possibly less time because burdened? 08:35 no he just did too much other stuff first 08:36 in happier news, horses like bananas! Well the one horse I tried it with did, once peeled. 08:36 K2: Blegh, what about making the message more like the final one, then? "Turned blue". 08:37 oh you're right Graznop, "burdened" must have made it even worse 08:38 It's possible I was made burdened (with an attack) just prior to getting swallowed. 08:38 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 08:38 There was still enough time to survive, though, if I wasn't stupid. 08:38 the final message is 'You suffocate' 08:39 K2: I mean, compare it to stoning. 08:39 i dont see what 'turning blue' vs 'you have turned blue' would accomplish 08:39 unicorn horn use was what killed you in the end 08:39 K2: "your limbs are stiffening" is not the penultimate message. You still have another message, and THEN you get the stoned one. 08:39 right 08:40 and when choking, you also have 5 messages 08:40 see the link i posted 08:40 I think it makes sense; by the time you have turned blue, you would be dead, so turning blue is a good "one turn from death" message 08:40 and you're not stupid 08:40 K2: I'm just suggesting that " "You're turning %s.", 08:41 you just didnt know 08:41 K2: Should instead be "You've turned blue". 08:41 again, what difference would that make? 08:42 i see no reason to change the messages there 08:42 I'm not sure how to explain other than "turnING" is making me *strongly* associate it with the message on line 111 there. 08:43 Incidentially, I've never waited for the message on line 113, there, because "Your limbs have turned to stone." is so final already. 08:43 I'd like to interject also that it's a vanilla thing, so if you do want it changed I don't believe k2 is the person to talk to 08:43 well i can change it if i want 08:43 but right now i'm not compelled to 08:44 the stoning bit needed a change because it actually was misleading 08:44 Loggers_VIII: That's a really good reason, too. 08:45 what 08:45 if you see 'blue' just tell yourself you have one turn to unfuck your situation 08:45 K2: All I saw was I was in the process of turning blue. 08:45 yeah. turning blue/are blue, its the same thing. you're about to die 08:46 well I think if you are blue you are most likely dead 08:46 brb 08:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:46 k2, is it intentional that you cant rub flint against steel? 08:47 maybe? the flint/iron make fire thing came from sporkhack. there was no mention of using flint against metal 08:47 evilhack calls METAL 'steel' 08:47 yeah I saw the commit 08:47 ah cool 08:48 IRL you most certainly can use steel and flint to make fire 08:49 not sure if *every* type of steel would work 08:49 would depend on its iron content 08:49 yeah 08:50 but of course that's not a consideration in nethack 08:50 K2: All I'm saying is that I interpreted the grammar as aligned with the other dangerious messages in teh game. I certainly didn't look up the list of messages and *count* which index they corresponded to. But anyways, it seems we disagree here. 08:50 And disagreement is fine. :) 08:50 we can agree to disagree :) 08:50 Indeed! 08:50 but yeah i get it. i'm sorry you died 08:51 do you have any msgtype ALERT bits set up in your config for events like this? 08:52 No, not that one, but it wouldn't have mattered too much, I saw the message and figured I had enough turns. But I was off-by-one. 08:53 What had also got me was that using the stetho consumes turns if you dont apply them successfully :( But that was before the message so that wasn't really a factor. 08:53 if i recall, a blessed stethoscope doesnt always take a turn to use 08:54 but get a 2nd opinion 08:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:54 does hackem have forged artifacts? 08:54 oops wrong channel 08:54 nopez 08:55 or not that I recall 08:55 K2: I thought a stetho never consumes a turn if you use it once a turn. 08:58 as krm26 said, you were deaf, so you consumed a turm 08:59 * turn 08:59 Right. 08:59 :/ 08:59 when engulfed: step away from the keyboard ;-) 08:59 side topic - kinda surprised at the lack of feedback from the latest forged artifact addition :P 09:00 curious what you all think 09:00 I think it's because it's so straightforward 09:01 heh 09:01 I mean, the other ones, cool weapon, is it good, what can I use it for, etc. 09:01 this one? objectively the best at what it does :P 09:01 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e93e92a405d2d3fa2062295e604ac2f21cc88ee5 09:02 mobileuser: I had gotten engulfed soooo many times. 09:02 but ithilmar seems like something that might actually make me want to bring a steed more than 1 level into the dungeon 09:02 there's just so many things that can destroy your steed randomly I never saw the appeal 09:02 hah, thats awesome 09:02 (ithilmar) 09:03 but now they are all taken care of with this ONE CRAZY TRICK 09:03 rng HATES HIM!!! 09:04 Loggers_VIII: Yeah, mine got disintegrated. 09:04 heh 09:05 I do really like the way it seems to have turned out 09:05 my favorite things in this game are the things that allow me to predict the outcome of what happens most consistently, if that makes sense 09:05 unpredictability is bad! 09:06 Never really used steeds, primarily because of reasons this artifact fixes - so looking forward to revisiting. 09:07 That's an awesoem artifact. 09:08 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 09:08 How can one protect steeds against distintegration, though? 09:08 it has reflection 09:10 ^ this 09:10 Ah, nice. 09:10 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10 steed wearing this artifact wont be invulnerable. but their odds of survival will go way up 09:10 care still needs to be taken as with any pet 09:12 it's just nice that it takes all of the dumb oneshot chances away 09:13 well, most of them :P 09:13 i like what the cost is to get this given how powerful it is 09:14 knights will want this for sure for jousting 09:14 centaurs will want to wear it ;-) 09:14 i have one more forged artifact to make, and then that's it 09:14 lol mobileuser 09:14 Yeah. Too high for me, but even so. 09:14 ONE MOAR 09:14 mobileuser: Well, I notice monsters ride centaurs all the time, so it makes sense they can wear this! 09:14 it will be body armor (sorry monks) 09:15 monks you have GoPur 09:15 centaurs can wear all armor except boots 09:15 they dont need barding hahah 09:16 the monk disrespect is real 09:16 this forged body armor recipe will be ashmar and the sword of annihilation 09:16 there's only so much one man can take 09:16 Loggers_VIII :P 09:17 oh that reminds me, there's a commit i want to do today 09:17 K2: And what does GoPur require? Dragonbane is just too useful. In that game I lost today, I actually had the Hand of Vecna, and decided not to use it. 09:17 will be Good™ 09:17 was thinking the Bag of Hesperides would be a good artifact to use for forging 09:17 arahael - dragonbane and grayswandir 09:17 arahael gopur is literally better dragonbane 09:17 Oh, right. 09:17 hand of vecna is also better than dragonbane though :P 09:17 Loggers_VIII: Doesn't have reflection though. 09:18 just wear an amulet 09:18 or cast the spell 09:18 I was wearing that bloody lifesaving. 09:18 :D 09:19 -!- chao is now known as stenno 09:20 a Good™ commit... 09:21 but all of them are Good™ >:( 09:21 hah 09:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/4b69b692b7d4...646886183eb9 09:43 [EvilHack] k21971 6468861 - Add a couple more sources of cancellation protection. 09:44 oh my goodness what a beautiful commit 09:45 k2 best human being confirmed 09:45 rofl 09:46 one day Tiamat will drop for me! 09:47 Dragonscales should remain on the ground. 09:49 easy for a monk to say, especially with that buff! 09:49 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/646886183eb9...d74a9bd03ff9 09:49 [EvilHack] k21971 d74a9bd - Small correction to last commit. 09:51 Graznop: :) 09:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 15880 points, T:5984, zapped herself with a wand of cold 09:55 G'night! 10:00 night! 10:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 391 points, T:426, killed by a giant ant 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3025 (0:20:14) 10:13 Loggers_VIII: I'm not doing a very good job of heading to bed I'm afraid! Started another game! 10:14 heh 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3263 (0:22:33) 10:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1158 (0:07:45) 10:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2208 (0:15:51) 10:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:2241 (0:17:25) 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 mithril shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4656 (0:32:29) 10:26 hahaha got revenge on those cubes I see 10:28 Indeed. 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4874 (0:35:23) 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/d74a9bd03ff9...cd7d16e6e12c 10:29 [EvilHack] k21971 cd7d16e - Fix: prevent Bourbon, Ozzy, and Kathryn in both forms from being polymorphed. 10:30 fyi today is Bourbon's birthday, so if anyone encounters Kathryn today, she'll say something about Bourbon's bday 10:31 brb 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8086 (1:24:57) 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish helm entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8398 (1:29:56) 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5409 (0:47:20) 10:44 bourbon is 7 today. awww 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a saber entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8551 (1:37:54) 11:00 year yr old bourbon. yum 11:01 7yr old bourbon 11:01 oh the dog 11:01 enjoying some evan williams myself right now 11:03 happy birthday tho k2... our golden just turned 11. he is slowing down. kinda sad. my best friend by far tho 11:03 yeah 11:03 ozzy is 8 11:04 they're both still pretty spry 11:04 Koa started slowing down around 10 yrs 11:05 rebatela why are you drinking whiskey in the AM 11:05 i'm in australia with arahael 11:05 ;) 11:05 lies 11:05 lol 11:06 i've cut wayyyyy back 11:06 so just one handle a day instead of 2 11:06 hehe more like just a couple nips and then nothing rest of the day 11:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:06 * K2 nods 11:07 someone told me you drink vodka like water K2 11:07 i used to 11:07 :b 11:07 i still can :P 11:07 \o/ 11:07 when covid hit the 6-8oz a day after work stopped 11:08 now i hardly drink anymore 11:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:08 my back hurts a lot more tho hah 11:10 i only play nethack intoxicated... that's why i haven't been playing 11:11 mostly on drugs. it's weird... there's a few of us.... but when i get sober i don't play so much 11:11 i'm trying to get back into it tho 11:11 you'd think it would be the other way around. i mean, it's kind of a geeky thing (no offense) 11:12 how dare you insinuate that we're geeks 11:12 hehe i mean it in the most flattering way 11:17 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 11:18 i think i have the amulet and a couple kitted out titans in one game and just can't get motivated... 11:18 ok, I'm afraid of lucifer.... 11:19 if you end up fighting him ping me or something I'm always down to watch a good lucifer fight 11:19 Likewise. He's such a cool boss 11:19 Imanity: Message from Loggers_Twin at 2023-04-19 00:39 EDT: congrats on your win! 7 conducts ain't too shabby either, especially for (I think) your first evil asc 11:20 heh congradulatory mail 11:20 why in the fuck did I spell it like that 11:20 i mean to watch imanity last night, but started watching the celtics game and forgot. happy for them tho! 11:20 imanity: congrats! 11:21 Ty 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 13 points, T:203, killed by a sewer rat 11:24 oh woops wrong acc 11:25 oh yeah, Imanity congrats! 11:25 was that your first asc? 11:25 Thanks 11:25 Ya 11:25 (in evilhack) 11:25 woop 11:26 Best one before that was a failed Dark one attemption 11:26 *attempt 11:26 yeah he can be tough now 11:26 vanilla the Dark One is kind of a pushover 11:26 Yep. I think he's fair now 11:26 Kind of like the Ice queen, bit of a dps race if you lack acid resistance 11:27 well vanilla dark one just comes out looking kind of weaksauce gray, which is to be expected when you dissolve a dark thing in a light fluid 11:28 Like that viva la dirt league sketch xD 11:28 https://i.redd.it/cflyo8afnb001.jpg 11:29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIrLt8d2KKE 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 772 points, T:1552, killed by a dart 11:47 Imanity! Just saw, great job, congrats! 11:48 ty. Only just remembered I'd forgotten Moloch's magic marker on the astral plane xD 11:48 i never bother taking that 11:48 oh god that's the worst... i've dropped the amulet and gone back for it 11:49 now THAT i've done :-( 11:49 Ikr, I almost ran out of power 11:49 oh, i mean, forgot the amulet and gone back for it :-) 11:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a tripe ration, on T:5980 (1:41:50) 12:02 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/cd7d16e6e12c...4e7d69da1f15 12:02 [EvilHack] k21971 4e7d69d - Implement 'race0' field to xlogfile, denoting starting race. 12:03 is that for drow? 12:03 no 12:03 infidel for now 12:03 because a corwned infodel turns into a demon 12:03 *infidel 12:03 *crowned 12:03 WOW 12:03 oh nice 12:03 corwned infodel 12:03 corwned infodel 12:03 new meal 12:04 sounds welsh 12:04 xD 12:04 this is to help malor with 1st to ascend and the nethack scoreboard 12:04 I'm sorry to inform you sir that you have made a typo on the internet, your execution is tomorrow 12:04 then i died years ago 12:04 heh 12:05 i remember funky roles magick from dnethack with drow/elf role 12:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:05 that changes its race after the quest? oslt 12:05 not after quest 12:05 if they get crowned 12:05 oh, so same as infodels then 12:05 :) 12:06 You hear the howling of the CorwnedInfodel... 12:06 ^ new email sig 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 10907 points, T:7085, killed by a plains centaur 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 549 points, T:413, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 12:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 12:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:02 I swear 'you feel less hassled' is the most cathartic message a hacker can see xD 13:04 this is gonna be like the 10th tortle i run that eventually dies due to complications of starvation because they can't get ahold of slow digestion by turn ~30k 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 416 points, T:1001, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a steel javelin entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:415 (0:03:26) 13:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:12814 (2:19:04) 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13153 (2:21:10) 13:25 time to die to the sokozoo 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:13871 (2:27:23) 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 43386 points, T:13875, quit 13:27 Oh dear 13:29 aww, tjat 13:29 that's no reason to quit 13:29 we all do that 13:29 Exactly. It's not even the bag of hesperides 13:31 oh i've blown that up 13:31 although my crowning achievement was overenchanting my very first SoA when i thought i was using enchant armor 13:31 i never even swung it 13:32 That would do some serious damage 13:32 Even if disint didn't pop 13:32 (ascended that game tho) 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2179 (0:24:56) 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law), 37097 points, T:21922, killed by an air elemental, while praying 13:36 oh thank god what a horrible run 13:37 Was that a summon from a god who was pissed you converted his altar? 13:38 Lmao zombie decided I can't be atheist any more 13:38 no, part of the sokoban zoo 13:38 Oh, I've never seen them spawn that early 13:39 if it takes you 20k turns to get to the zoo it happens all the time 13:42 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:42 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 13:52 congrats Imanity! 13:53 Thanks mobileuser 14:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Ran Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3046 (1:36:08) 14:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a guardian naga hatchling, on T:4141 (1:20:57) 14:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 159 points, T:548, killed by a water demon 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed floating eye corpse on an altar, on T:5293 (1:09:55) 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law), 3460 points, T:6174, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 14:56 i swear the tortle toque basically does nothing against zombies, with the starting speed any time a zombie gets within smelling distance of you you get zombie sickness 15:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1396 points, T:1515, killed by a mountain dwarf 15:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5456 (0:47:32) 16:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2254 (1:13:15) 16:50 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Kni Cen Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3331 (1:58:24) 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3432 (2:02:39) 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2487 points, T:2974, killed by a gnome king 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:13277 (2:31:26) 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:14292 (2:41:02) 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of protection entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5541 (0:32:27) 18:27 Are cross-aligned unicorns more aggressive to centaurs? 18:28 I just fought one who behaved like a horse, rather than staying a knight's move away, and only attacking when I moved into it 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "+3 Blessed fixed gray dragon scales", on T:14797 (2:52:17) 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law), 6758 points, T:7892, killed by an owlbear 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7236 (0:43:03) 18:40 hey, congrats on the ascension, Imanity! 18:40 Thanks terrapin 18:40 Next would be an atheist ranger, but zombie put an end to that 18:41 So just doing it normally 18:41 such is life :( 18:42 Have to say, early displacement is so much fun 18:43 You can dodge monster's attacks by moving around them 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 11296 points, T:6930, killed by an invisible stalker 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:15566 (3:03:05) 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 720 points, T:620, killed by a mountain dwarf 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:9574 (1:06:49) 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:9880 (1:11:04) 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law), 3654 points, T:5658, killed by a killer bee 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3896 points, T:3944, killed by a crocodile 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law), 2673 points, T:4076, killed by a giant beetle 19:51 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24455 (6:59:27) 20:03 wooo 20:04 L - blessed +5 pair of gauntlets of dexterity and excellence 20:04 never had a magical oprop gift before; neat! 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24637 (7:04:43) 20:06 awesome 20:06 yeah its rare but not too rare 20:06 1 in 8 chance i think 20:06 probs 1 in 80 for magical armor, right? 20:07 to spawn randomly, yeah somewhere in that range 20:07 i'd have to look, its been awhile 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24828 (7:07:21) 20:09 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 i've seen properties on a magic item once ever 20:11 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) had a small shield entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:25699 (7:18:32) 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3759 (0:30:51) 20:21 also excellence. my god has a high opinion of me 20:21 (or thinks I desperately need more charisma) 20:29 terrapin the withering commit looks good 20:30 i had one question about some feedback 20:30 'looks drier' 20:31 omygod I agonized over that 20:31 I didn't really like it but couldn't think of a better adjective 20:32 of course, now one immediately comes to mind: "shriveled" 20:32 i think you did though in a later update 20:32 oh the dessicated one? 20:32 yeah 20:32 yeah forgot about that 20:34 I'll change it real quick (should I add that feedback to potions, too?) 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5583 (0:44:17) 20:34 lemme look 20:34 nah what's there is fine 20:34 neat 20:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:38 so I know like half the work I did is useless unless EWithering becomes a thing 20:39 but I think it could make an interesting artifact 20:40 like, it withers you but also increments BWithering when you hit with it, or drains lots of health from enemies, so you have to keep fighting stuff 20:42 that is interesting. maybe that could be a future oprop on a weapon 20:42 or grimtooth could alternate between withering and disease 20:46 do people actually use shadowblade? (I think it's got a lot of good qualities---novel invoke, some downsides (the darkness (at least in the current version it's pretty solidly a downside)), etc. But I've never seen people forging it). Because stormbringer/grimtooth seem like a thematic recipe for a withering weapon. Maybe shadowblade could get some sort of withering mechanic. or become the rogue's first sacrifice gift since it's so rogue-oriented 20:46 and be replaced with a withering weapon in the forge recipe. 20:48 i think its been forged once 20:49 it cant become a rogues first sac gift, its a forged artifact 20:49 right, I'm saying you could make it a non-forged artifact instead 20:50 idk. I do really like it's theme, and the cause fear is pretty bonkers. But it doesn't feel great that non-Rogues would mostly use it as a super-tooled horn 20:50 *its 20:52 when i get around to creating drow race, it'll find some utility with them 20:52 oh good point 20:53 but yeah we could explore the withering bit for it 20:56 gonna wrap up this commit i'm working on, then pull your withering PR 20:56 a'ight. thanks for hearing me out on my ramblings! 20:58 anytime! 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10174 (1:14:54) 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:27209 (7:39:49) 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:27712 (7:49:05) 21:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:59 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:15287 (2:09:26) 22:09 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 55883 points, T:15536, petrified by a cockatrice 22:21 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/4e7d69da1f15...6eb8f12fd7ac 22:22 [EvilHack] k21971 6eb8f12 - Allow some monsters to break boulders. 22:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 10 commits to master [+0/-0/±43] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6eb8f12fd7ac...99841a90cd77 22:22 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin a3d1943 - Fix: monster not mentioned when cured of withering 22:22 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 43b5017 - Fix: Cure withering when polymorphing into something nonliving 22:23 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin aad139a - Cure monsters of withering when applicable 22:23 [EvilHack] ... and 7 more commits. 22:35 -!- Loggers_Twin has joined #evilhack 22:36 oh that boulder breaking commit is very cool 22:42 Taken from vanilla huh 22:43 yeah 22:44 although vanilla doesn't include the oracle in the list of monsters that can do it 22:44 for obvious reasons 22:49 -!- Loggers_Twin has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 22:50 -!- Loggers_Twin has joined #evilhack 22:58 -!- Loggers_Twin has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 23:19 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack