00:17 What do celestial dragon scales do? Testing out purgatory in wizard mode and can't find anything unique about them from enlightnment. They lack an item description too 00:19 Flying 00:19 Few other things but flying is one I immediately remember 00:20 Guess I won't save anything for them 00:21 "If eaten, their corpses confer sleep and shock resistance, as do their scales if worn or fused with regular armor. Their scales also impart the ability to fly, and provide sonic resistance if fused with regular armor." 00:21 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7a36e8794bde84bbcb2b9411b122e941d297e06e 00:23 Thanks 00:23 Is there a way to see all commits like this? 00:23 Most info I could find was the reddit 0.8.1 release notes 00:24 Soko marker was near max 00:25 Commits thing is right there on the repo, all I had to do was search "celestial" within it and select the commit results 00:25 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 00:27 I see. Was looking for them under tree/master rather than commits/master 00:27 Will bookmark it in case. Looks quite helpful 00:31 Anyway Bedge time. Cya o/ 00:31 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:34298 (1 day, 16:53:34) 00:54 this full ID luck is some cheeks 02:44 Hi Demonbane 02:44 it only takes 3/4 Aleax it feels like 02:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof amulet of flying", on T:81332 (1 day, 2:29:18) 03:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:82377 (1 day, 2:54:11) 03:13 Oh neat, wand of death. 03:14 Mine 03:22 @e?Abominable Snowman 03:22 Abominable Snowman (Y) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification | Confer: cold | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 8d4 bite physical, 6d6 weapon physical, 6d6 claw knockback | Align: 0 | carnivore, swims, thick hide, regen, nopoly 03:43 woo new keepaway strat detected 03:43 levitate while throwing an aklys 03:44 now if my wizard could stay out of the way 03:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36468 (1 day, 19:53:12) 03:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:00 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 643 points, T:695, killed by a gnome lord 04:31 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 04:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1485 (0:13:11) 04:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1847 points, T:1563, killed by a wand 05:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:47144 (1 day, 1:38:04) 05:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) had a spellbook of cause fear given to him by Hermes, on T:37641 (1 day, 21:54:59) 06:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:47358 (1 day, 1:47:10) 06:06 Well, time to run this back 06:11 Yep. 06:11 Yep. 06:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu), 563903 points, T:38187, killed by a torrent of acid, while taking off clothes 06:11 Yep 06:11 Worst possible moment milky ghost 06:11 Yep 06:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:22 [hdf-us] [evil] ch3ckd0wn (Cav Gia Mal Law), 80 points, T:1015, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 06:24 Umbire :( what happened? 06:24 exactly what he feared: full healing was milky 06:25 hate that 06:25 accident waiting to happen :-( 06:28 mm the tantalizing starting cursed magic lamp 06:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:49044 (1 day, 2:14:05) 07:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:55541 (1 day, 3:02:39) 07:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3910 (1:05:51) 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:4169 (1:19:35) 07:44 !lastgame uberconductor 07:44 VaderFLAG: No last game for uberconductor. 07:44 !lastgame umberconductor 07:44 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1673762951.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1681342106.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1678723972.evil.html 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4719 (1:26:20) 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a kabuto entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16877 (2:14:20) 08:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of iron tekko entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18414 (2:23:16) 08:50 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:51 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 08:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:58468 (1 day, 3:24:12) 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a silver dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:23574 (2:51:53) 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a javelin entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:24114 (2:53:57) 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:25182 (2:57:10) 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:25209 (2:59:14) 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:59359 (1 day, 3:38:37) 09:09 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 09:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:84600 (1 day, 4:10:17) 09:17 Hmm. My bag has a weight of exactly 666. The number of the beast. 09:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:61136 (1 day, 3:53:08) 09:26 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 09:26 How accurate is Orcus' wand? 09:27 Like would it hit a char with -60 or -70 AC more than 30 or 40% of the time? 09:28 I've always been too scared to come out from behind my boulder! 09:29 hah janis defeated kathryn 09:31 I think AC below zero is treated as zero for to hit purposes 09:31 Maybe that's the safest option Graznop. Decided to make this run arti wishless and want to lose very little of my max hp 09:31 orcus will not hit you much with a -70ac 09:31 Still, I'll see if I can afford to write a scroll of earth 09:34 cbus Last time I checked in on him, he was doing what looked like last minute stash preparation on DL1 with about -27 AC. Thought he was going to the planes xD 09:34 is he playing on hardfought? 09:35 ye 09:35 which server? 09:35 EU 09:35 we can mailbomb him to join #evilhack 09:35 Pog 09:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed amulet of magical breathing", on T:60318 (1 day, 10:45:36) 09:38 1/5 wrest chance lets goo 09:38 * arahael pokes Hecubus. 09:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:60321 (1 day, 10:46:32) 09:39 "You finish taking off your helm. Your mind is back in sync with your body. The mithril of your magic lamp burns your skin." - bug? or is the lamp on my head? 09:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a green mold, on T:85036 (1 day, 4:33:39) 09:40 Wtf did Janis forget MR 09:40  Looks like someone free hitting him with wand of polymorph 09:41 Maybe he took off his "oMR to wear flying? 09:41 Oh nvm he's just a monk 09:41 Must be 09:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8875 (3:49:05) 09:41 So has fewer options 09:41 green mold is not the best poly form 09:41 xD 09:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed -3 Frost Brand", on T:61221 (1 day, 4:02:30) 09:46 gotta have that minus 3 09:47 bis 09:54 -!- elron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:00 Imanity if you're going to use a scroll of earth for anyone, it should be orcus 10:01 Especially since I'm forgoing any form of death resistance 10:01 Apart from MR, things like GoP, undead polyform 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:30150 (4:21:29) 10:26 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 10:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:12250 (4:59:20) 10:55 How do you get past the Valley drawbridge? It's indestructable and passtune isn't working 10:56 Do I need to kill Charon? 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:31534 (4:56:28) 11:02 Oh I see. Only magical forms work 11:02 Like knock or wand of opening 11:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:61985 (1 day, 12:02:27) 11:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:62010 (1 day, 12:03:20) 11:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:10 How much damage does the artifact blast do in evil? 11:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3240 points, T:4821, killed by a nightmare 11:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:63157 (1 day, 12:34:47) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:33327 (5:38:30) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33329 (5:38:40) 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:33690 (5:41:32) 11:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:63416 (1 day, 5:28:13) 12:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:63575 (1 day, 5:40:46) 12:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:63771 (1 day, 13:01:10) 12:04 WTB 20 points of HP that bastard stole from me :) 12:04 Thank fuck he got lost and stopped teleporting to the upstairs 12:17 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:24 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36964 (6:12:15) 12:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2214 (0:14:14) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2922 (0:20:42) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:37695 (6:20:46) 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Fem Law), 14290 points, T:7851, killed by a magic missile 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6504 points, T:4270, killed by Ms. Manlobbi; the shopkeeper 12:48 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:37 (0:09:41) 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:531 (0:16:16) 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:38711 (6:46:08) 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Lolth, on T:40657 (1 day, 10:11:31) 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:8369 (2:32:40) 13:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:47 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8660 (2:40:13) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a gold shield of reflection entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:40739 (7:33:24) 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:40864 (1 day, 10:52:53) 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:40865 (1 day, 10:54:10) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:40868 (1 day, 10:55:16) 14:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:65608 (1 day, 6:55:55) 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:9040 (2:55:15) 14:11 -!- Graznop_ has joined #evilhack 14:11 -!- Graznop has quit [Killed (mercury.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 14:11 -!- Graznop_ is now known as Graznop 14:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/4f12487feffc...9b08d995806e 14:47 [EvilHack] k21971 d9bc161 - Don't drop aklys on the floor due to slippery fingers. 14:47 [EvilHack] k21971 9b08d99 - Wand of speed gives player temporary speed and potion gives intrinsic. 14:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:66331 (1 day, 7:42:03) 14:53 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:53 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:66380 (1 day, 7:47:54) 14:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:66381 (1 day, 7:48:11) 14:58 neat speed change! 14:58 yeah figured i'd follow suit since it made its way into vanilla 14:58 came from xnethack originally 15:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:66749 (1 day, 7:58:09) 15:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:37 I noticed in the HotG commit that there's a special case to add "the " in front of it and GoPur. Is there a reason they aren't just named "The Hammer of the Gods" and "The Gauntlets of Purity" like either SoA? 15:51 honestly... no idea 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15499 (5:04:12) 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of holiness entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:15622 (5:05:57) 16:19 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 16:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:42 My 2cts on the wand of speed: I already keep using them in hackem and evilhack to cure the "slow" condition, so the original motivation of "the issue in which there are way more wands of speed monster in the game than the player has any use for" doesn't apply. 16:42 but hey, vanilla does this now, so... 16:43 potions with permament effects seems wrong 16:43 well, it does apply just not as often 16:43 but there is gain ability already 16:44 slow effect will wear off if you do nothing 16:45 why doesn't a cursed wand of speed monster make you slow? 16:46 because wand of slow monster 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1494 points, T:1953, quit 16:46 i guess? 16:46 bhaak you should ask the devteam... oh wait 16:46 :P 16:47 fyi i'll be updating 370-hdf later tonight 16:48 cursed wand of speed monster should speed up all adjacent monsters and aggravate them 16:48 instead of you 16:48 hah 16:49 you made me fast, i kill you! 16:49 too complex, patches welcome :) 16:49 hahah 16:53 do monsters in evilhack zap slow monster? 16:53 yes 16:53 they are assholes 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:45645 (8:49:01) 16:54 I had a couple of centaurs in hackem Ludios that kept zapping slow monster 16:54 assholes 16:54 assholes! 16:54 \o/ 16:54 \o/ 16:54 LOL 16:54 kill them! kill them dead! 16:55 I did! \o/ 16:55 woooo 16:55 ok its cooled down enough, gonna finish up yard work 16:55 it got warm this weekend 16:55 rain/cooler weather coming tho 16:55 urgh, good luck! 16:55 bbl 16:55 yeah i'll be raking gravel out of my front yard 16:56 part of my driveway winds up in my tard afetr every winter (from snow plowing) 16:56 * mobileuser zaps speed monster at K2 16:56 *yard 16:56 oh thanks i need that 16:56 this job sucks but its only once a year 16:56 ok bbl 17:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:09 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 17:09 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 17:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 17:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1293 points, T:2095, killed by a piranha 17:14 does it matter if the Eye of Vecna is blessed / uncursed / cursed? 17:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:20 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 17:22 Is the best way to deal damage from inside a boulder fort, to use an advanced spell on the boulder between you and the mob? 17:23 if you have esp you can still target the monsters on the other side of the boulders 17:23 but otherwise, yes, aim for the boulder 17:26 Thanks. Did some testing in wiz mode and was able to kill Orcus with advanced acid blast alone 17:27 Suppose another option to deal with those pesky demon lords, is to branchport, then levelport away when they're paralysed 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:48825 (9:22:32) 17:28 One gnomish mines branch for every able bodied demon! 17:41 bhaak: the answer I would give to that question is "cursed wands don't have negative effects specific to the wand" 17:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:42 sure they have general negative effects which apply to any wands (exploding) but there are no wands for which a cursed zap behaves differently from any other one 17:44 ^ in vanilla this is correct 17:44 not so much in evilhack 17:45 bhaak: also feel free to take away the speed intrinsic granting of the potion of speed, I'm not particularly attached to it. it would mean you could only get it from prayer boons or quantum mechanic corpses or your role though 17:45 K2: so should a cursed wand of slow monster make the target fast 17:45 i dunno 17:46 it should behave different than when its uncursed/blessed imo 17:46 what beahvior though, not sure at this time 17:46 *behavior 17:47 aosdict: maybe make it blessed potion of speed only, not uncursed/blessed (intrinsic speed) 17:47 or make it so you have to drink N potions in a row 17:47 put that overloaded counter to good use 17:50 that's a decent idea 17:50 not "drink N potions in a row", but "drink speed while already having N turns of Very_fast & TIMEOUT" 17:52 YANI 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:50114 (9:52:59) 18:20 aosdict: you are right. I thought, cursed wand of light sucked out the light of a room but that's only the scroll 18:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:26 I like the idea of "drink speed while already having N turns of Very_fast & TIMEOUT" 18:36 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3063 (1:34:48) 18:41 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 18:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:02 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #116: Whips & Fire Damage - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/116 19:04 I was seriously bored this weekend, and an idle look at a minor annoyance I had with whips became larger in scope. Please let me know if you do/don't find this helpful, k2; I'm unsure what your general stance is on this sort of thing. 19:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:935 (0:27:41) 19:10 Oh cool, actually got an early one 19:14 lol first bite lycanthropy 200 turns later 19:14 lol 19:14 lol 19:14 lol 19:15 idk morphing into a snarling animal seems pretty on brand for barbarians 19:16 I am a wererat, sir. 19:17 I will leave to your imagination how much more inconvenient than normal that is. 19:18 ...ah. yeah, that's not great 19:24 Does abusing your alignment lead to a decrease in deity-granted protection? 19:24 no 19:24 Hmm maybe I'm just remembering wrong then 19:26 you've got to anger your god to lose protection. they're surprisingly forgiving of the little things like murdering the population of a small town 19:26 That's good 19:27 Racked up quite a few points of protection whilst trying to get the spellbooks I need, so would be a shame to lose it 19:36 Kick walls to return myself to giant form, immediately rat-form after 19:36 Under normal circumstances I would have quit already, and frankly I'm still on the fucking fence. 19:37 Just stash items and wait out prayer timer 19:39 You mean that thing I'm already doing? 19:39 Well you're considering quitting too 19:39 Almost like I know what this process entails and am increasingly considering it not worth the squeeze. 19:39 Mind-blowing. 19:44 Cool, finally have corpses to offer and they're rats. 19:45 Probably gonna roll a hostile marilith with my current luck. 19:48 ...that only counts for eating them, huh. 19:53 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 19:54 terrapin nice, I'm having a look at it 19:58 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:01 approve 20:01 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±27] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9b08d995806e...2dd7aa021a35 20:01 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 8e1817d - Changes to 'a'pplying whips 20:01 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin cdaf440 - Consolidate some fire_ and lava_damage() code, and make fiery items fireproof 20:01 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 9a0898e - Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/saltwaterterrapin/EvilHack 20:01 [EvilHack] k21971 2dd7aa0 - Merge pull request #116 from saltwaterterrapin/master 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of leather yugake entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:52473 (10:25:55) 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:52536 (10:26:42) 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:52609 (10:29:53) 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17738 (5:54:17) 20:08 neato 20:08 so many markers! 20:08 xD 20:08 terrapin there's a warning during compile. well, two, but I addressed one already 20:09 Finally cured that bite after 2000 years (turns) 20:09 boo marker 20:09 terrapin - https://termbin.com/yxcmh 20:11 ah. guess that's a place for strcmpi. I'm too used to python, it's made me soft 20:11 -!- nabru- has joined #evilhack 20:11 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:11 -!- nabru- is now known as nabru 20:16 Is the best way to avoid accidental loss of polypileless conduct, not to use polymorph wands/spell? 20:17 Since you can't tell what's on the ground mobs are standing on 20:17 you can tell 20:17 turn off monster symbols 20:17 #terrain 20:17 ^ 20:17 I see, thanks 20:19 fixed it 20:20 sorry about that. 20:20 it was like the one thing I didn't test a lot---I figured it was too simple to screw up 20:20 no worries 20:21 terrapin, your local copy, which hints file do you use when you compile? 20:21 hints/linux 20:21 ah 20:21 should probably change to the debug 20:21 try using hints/linux-debug 20:21 yeah 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55221 (10:47:46) 20:26 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: :wq] 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55903 (10:49:27) 20:28 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/2dd7aa021a35...65f080a5177d 20:28 [EvilHack] k21971 65f080a - Fix: two compile warnings, a bit of formatting cleanup from last commit. 20:32 Think I'm missing 10 spellbooks. 3 of which I really need 20:32 Shame there isn't a quicker way of doing this, it's such a tedious process 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:58126 (10:57:10) 20:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:59208 (11:01:47) 20:40 you polypiling for spells? 20:41 Nah, following polypileless conduct 20:41 Praying for them whilst altar farming 20:42 conducts are good for introducing tediousness 20:43 I guess. Would've broken polypileless long ago, but the game was very stingy on spellbooks of polymorph. Got my first one a few minutes ago, almost 70k turns in 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:20004 (6:29:19) 20:43 May as well see this conduct to the end 20:43 wtf thoth 20:43 Sacrificing for vorpal? 20:44 no, was just checking my prayer timeout like a chump 20:44 Oh 20:44 Now you have to get its twin xD 20:45 even worse 20:45 coulda been dragonbane but nooooooo 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:60931 (11:08:23) 20:48 I really like yellow '@'s. Hard to beat but have some decent gear to compensate 20:48 Like bones but with more balanced on both sides 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:62839 (11:15:46) 21:05 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 21:10 Just pressed something which said "automatic description of cursor is off. Does anyone know how to reverse it? 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:67511 (11:34:07) 21:14 Nvm found out how to turn it back on 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:69014 (11:37:37) 21:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5132 (2:35:50) 21:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5178 (2:37:33) 21:27 lol Trollsbane on first floor of Mines 21:27 Not a bones? 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:74021 (12:02:42) 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:75520 (12:18:46) 21:57 love to play the werefoo lottery again without my consent 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:75592 (12:19:19) 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:75725 (12:20:38) 22:06 (implication being I lost the first roll, again) 22:06 at least the fix came way quicker 22:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:68021 (1 day, 17:15:49) 22:06 Interesting. Haven't got an artifact in forever 22:07 Think grimtooth, ogresmasher and trollsbane are the only ones I'm missing 22:16 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1685731 points, T:79227, petrified by a beholder 22:27 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:27 Man that sucks 22:29 :( 22:29 !lastgame 22:29 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1681578287.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1681342106.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1680684548.evil.html 22:32 Looks like he didn't notice the prompt and status effect. Only got 3 turns, and had lizard corpse in inventory 22:43 MSGSTOP is your friend. 22:50 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 223 points, T:437, poisoned by an orcish dagger 23:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7479 (4:25:30) 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5746 (1:41:51) 23:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:7592 (4:26:37) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5936 (1:46:05) 23:14 -!- Loggers_X has joined #evilhack 23:14 !who 23:14 Loggers_X: [hdf-us] Loggers [evil] terrapin [evil] DragonSidedD [evil] :: [hdf-eu] UmberConductor [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:14 !lastgame elron 23:14 Loggers_X: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1681578287.evil.html 23:15 oh my GOODNESS that bones is for me 23:15 Looks very juicy 23:15 heh 23:16 I guess they did not see the message 23:17 Most likely. Would help if beholders were changed to a more visable color, but guess it's on us to check 23:17 also damn imanity, you've made some fast progress 23:18 Thanks. Previous run was a failed dark one, but now wishing up my final spellbooks. Don't think anything can kill me 23:18 Well apart from my own stupidity xD 23:18 it is VERY hard to kill a high level wiz 23:18 but don't get cocky 23:19 Yep, one mistake or misclick and it'll be all over 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an owlbear, on T:7527 (3:05:39) 23:20 have you killed vecna? 23:20 if so what'd ya get 23:21 On my way to. Think I need cancellation and acid blast first, so sacrificing for them 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2982 (0:19:59) 23:21 I really want her gloves. The eye is kind of useless at this point 23:22 gloves are super nice 23:22 eye isn't bad 23:22 don't eat it :P 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3252 (0:21:11) 23:22 Only 250 dmg, what can go wrong ;) 23:23 a lot :) 23:23 and I think it's more damage if it's cursed 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3344 (0:22:44) 23:24 Spicy snac 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3358 (0:22:51) 23:24 I died eating it once lol 23:24 simple misclick 23:25 Damn 23:25 Guess it's kind of like a cockatrice corpse that's permanently in your inventory 23:26 but way funnier 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:891 (0:23:32) 23:26 Yep 23:27 gnite all, happy evilhacking 23:27 cya 23:27 o/ 23:28 nite k2 o/ 23:28 imanity also, vecna has a bunch of guaranteed spell books in his lair 23:29 Ooh 23:29 so it might be worth checking out to see if there's any of the ones you want 23:29 plus there's a chance of a marker, a bunch of amulets and 20000 zorkmids 23:29 That would speed up the process of praying for spellbooks too, if any are unknown 23:30 Since your god can't give you spellbooks you have already read 23:30 true 23:30 Onwards to Vecna then :D 23:30 what's your HP and armor/weapons looking like? 23:31 AC is about -68, +7 Staff of Archmagi and 0% failure rate on all spells 23:31 christ 23:31 My God has been generous this game xD 23:31 lol 23:32 you're on track to win with a setup like that 23:32 just some general things for the late game in evil: don't melee orcus, don't melee graz'zt, don't underestimate lucifer 23:32 I hope so. Rolling with GDSM, but if Tiamet spawns as the last demon lord I might use it instead 23:33 chromatic scales are awesome 23:33 Shame there's a 1/12 chance it can spawn 23:33 yea 23:34 I have 2 scrolls of earth for both of them. The second demon lord already did enough damage to my max HP 23:34 Got most of it back and then some, but -20 max HP still hurts 23:35 heh, you got off lucky 23:35 I've lost upwards of 120 HP to orcus 23:35 Wow, guess he really got beefed up 23:36 In vanilla, he was more of a speedkill to get his wand's charges before Orcus wasted them all xD 23:36 yea :P 23:36 the wand has been changed into an artifact that drains your HP really fast 23:37 Polyselfless and artiwishless are especially painful 23:37 No way to mitigate the drain through death magic resistance 23:37 yeah you can 23:37 death magic res stops all draining of max HP through methods like that 23:38 touch of death, wand of orcus, death himself, wand of death, etc. 23:38 Ye, I mean there's no way to get it as a chaotic with those two conducts intact 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1275 (0:27:30) 23:38 Unless you find Grayswandir lying around 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:1292 (0:27:43) 23:38 ohh 23:38 yeah it's unfortunate 23:39 Was testing an Orcus fight in wizmode earlier today, as mental preparation for his onslaught 23:39 Did 10+ drain each time he hit 23:40 sounds about right 23:40 and the damage itself is nothing to scoff at either 23:40 the wand is always +6 or something 23:40 @e?orcus 23:40 Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 23:40 Quite nasty 23:41 It's not a special attack like Graz'zt either, so cancellation will have no effect 23:41 yeah it's just the property of his weapon 23:42 Although, maybe bullwhipping/ using a beared axe to disarm him above lava might work 23:42 that's not a bad idea 23:42 a tad inconvenient though 23:43 !lastgame dragonsidedd 23:43 Loggers_X: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1681700393.evil.html 23:43 Yeah, you'd need to use a cursed scroll of teleportation, and if you're going to, may as well leave him paralysed and stranded in a dungeon branch 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:7671 (2:17:35) 23:44 Rather than take those hits 23:44 there's lava on his level 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:1585 (0:33:31) 23:44 Oh 23:44 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:44 !lastgame krm26 23:44 Loggers_X: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1681607678.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 23:45 ^ look at the EU dumplog, it has his level mapped out 23:45 I see, around the edges 23:46 But quite a large area. Could quaff a cursed potion of invisibility there to minimise damage taken 23:46 yep 23:46 at that point you might as well just !oparalysis him and beat him to death 23:47 Wonder what he'd do without his wand though 23:48 Stare at you sadly? 23:48 he'd probably just hit you with the 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str 23:49 That sounds quite bad 23:49 Change of plan. Orcus can have all the wands in the world, so long as no withering takes place xd 23:50 I was testing out Purgatory in wizard mode and Lucifer was horrible 23:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class v), on T:1651 (0:38:30) 23:50 Lucifer is terrifying 23:51 Really cool text though. You can tell a lot of time was spent on that fight 23:51 for sure 23:52 Almost makes me wish I'd experienced it for the first time in live 23:52 heh 23:52 But then I'd probably have been withered to death by Lucifer 23:52 Fun Loggers Fact™ I was the first person to ever fight Lucifer on hardfought 23:53 also the first person to get their ass kicked by Lucifer on hardfought :P 23:53 xD 23:53 Guess it's a trial befitting of his title 23:53 he's rough. his stats are deceiving 23:53 @e?lucifer 23:53 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 23:54 What's the best strategy for him? 23:54 Boulder fort? 23:55 yes 23:55 there are two main strategies for fighting him 23:55 1) boulder fort and bombard him with spells 23:56 2) collect a couple potions of paralysis and the sword of annihilation and hope that the SoA procs 23:56 obviously the second one has variations depending on role 23:56 priests use demonbane, monks can use GoPur+silver kicking boots, etc 23:56 Could also polymorph into a black dragon and disintegrate him with a wall bounce 23:57 If SoA works, he isn't disint immune 23:57 in theory that could also be an easy kill but no one's tried it yet so idk 23:58 His AC is only -1 too. I'll go with boulder for this game, but seems like a viable strat 23:59 his AC is lower in practice 23:59 I forget the exact reason, but all I know is that k2 told me in game it's lower than -1 23:59 Could be his starting gear