00:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:47348 (22:25:52) 00:08 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:08 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 00:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:48112 (22:36:02) 00:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:48263 (22:38:52) 00:19 oh neat I got the Caatacombs like I hoped 00:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22499 (1 day, 2:17:25) 00:28 ez 00:28 now where's my books 00:48 Lmao almost tripled my AC since earlier today. To think I was planning on doing the Ice queen realm then 01:00 What were you at? 01:18 Umbire -13. Now -36 01:19 Think that's more than sufficient 01:19 I hope so 01:41 Tons of daggers, not a lot of darts, even fewer with oprops... 01:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:50531 (1 day, 0:06:27) 01:43 Oh and no hammer 01:43 (yet) 01:48 -!- Graznop has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 01:50 An illithid priest spawned on the Ice queen goal level. Wouldn't it be funny if I own race sacrificed him on his own altar? 02:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1152 points, T:1521, killed by the Goblin King 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7 points, T:94, killed by a system shock 02:10 It would be funny 02:11 But if you decide to do that, convert it before you sacrifice the corpse 02:11 Why? Shouldn't a same race sacrifice as a chaotic be a guaranteed conversion? 02:13 This is Moloch we're talking about 02:13 Oh, so he might get a little mad 02:14 Nnnnnno? 02:14 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sacrifice#Sacrificing_creatures_of_own_race 02:14 Only aligned altars get insta-converted 02:14 Oh I see 02:14 and 2 luck loss would hurt quite a bit 02:15 I mean not too much given you'll have plenty of fodder 02:15 Just more of a thing you want dealt with beforehand 02:16 I have everything I need from sacrifice tbh. Would take way too long and be dangerous to be trapped in a sideroom with angry dragonbois 02:16 I'll just sacrifice the priest on my way out 02:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) had a glass dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:25209 (1 day, 3:46:59) 02:19 Neat 02:20 Also if you're at like -30 or so AC I feel liek you can likely handle dragons 02:20 s/liek/like 02:20 Most likely 02:21 It's all a matter of how 02:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:51287 (1 day, 0:44:48) 02:21 2 fireballs. Holy fuck they are powerful 02:24 Skilled fireball >>>>>>>> 02:25 Yep. Burns up their armor but at this point, if it's not dragonhide it's not worth considering 02:34 How do you use potions of acid on iron bars? I've tried what the wiki recommends, ie. wielding and using f, but that only prompts me to ready ammunition 02:35 Tried readying it, but it missed the iron bars and angered the pegasus and Kathryn 02:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ch3ckd0wn (Sam Gia Mal Law), 60 points, T:179, killed by a sewer rat 03:36 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 290 points, T:757, killed by an acid blob 04:05 ...you just wield it and use F 04:05 as in capital 04:05 to manually attack 04:05 sup umbire, hows it going? 04:05 Going 04:05 nice :) 04:06 Ye, re-read the wiki. No more potions of acid left so only hope is using staff of archmagi to phase through 04:06 getting closer to score your first evil ascension? 04:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:26625 (1 day, 5:35:57) 04:08 Killstealer. 04:26 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:38 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 843 points, T:1280, killed by the Goblin King 04:48 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4 points, T:7, killed by a water moccasin 05:02 -!- Frozty has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:05 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:05 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 05:05 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 05:05 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 05:05 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:05 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1140 (0:26:07) 06:05 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 06:31 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:45 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 06:58 TIL items with the excellence property act as luckstone when worn or wielded 06:59 good to know in case of mine's end troubles 07:22 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:37 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 08:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:33777 (18:47:43) 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law), 355 points, T:1611, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:40 \o/ 08:40 to mobileuser's statement, not terrapin dying 08:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3130 (0:49:50) 09:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law), 95 points, T:554, killed by a fox 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1684 points, T:2715, killed by an ancient pseudodragon called Stingy, while sleeping 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4737 (0:35:54) 10:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby red dragon, on T:7932 (0:59:46) 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:8970 (1:11:17) 10:25 -!- mobileuser43 has joined #evilhack 10:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- mobileuser43 is now known as mobileuser 10:43 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11703 (1:32:23) 10:59 K2 may slight bug with sword of Kas? 11:00 it confers stoning resistance, but when I already had the condition "Stone" and then wielded it, it didn't cure me 11:03 bbl... 11:04 huh 11:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 oilskin toque", on T:35277 (20:26:30) 11:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:35280 (20:27:22) 11:09 Lmao had a heart attack. Misread the prompt as "Staff of the Archmagi suddenly vanishes unexpectedly" 11:12 mobileuser yup i can recreate it 11:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:17 You hear the cockatrice's hissing! You are slowing down. What do you want to wield? [- abhj or ?*] j 11:17 j - the blessed +0 Sword of Kas (weapon in hands) (103 aum). You no longer seem to be petrifying. 11:17 easy fix 11:18 need to cover yellow-dragon scaled armor too 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16621 (2:16:28) 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:17039 (2:18:27) 11:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/2ca47c216e49...b1ffed17aa07 11:43 [EvilHack] k21971 b1ffed1 - Wielding or wearing an object that grants petrification resistance will cure it if in the process of being petrified. 12:03 lol at the commit hash 12:03 almost biffed :D 12:03 I am adding that one to my list of things that hackem needs 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a long sword entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:52174 (9:07:56) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:53946 (9:33:05) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1092 points, T:1939, killed by a flind 12:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:58 K2 thx for checking! 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law), 42839 points, T:19359, poisoned by an ettin zombie 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:934 (0:06:04) 13:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:75565 (23:38:22) 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3054 (0:18:08) 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a rusty iron ring on an altar, on T:3788 (0:23:41) 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4235 (0:26:24) 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4960 (0:32:43) 13:38 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1140 (0:05:07) 13:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1311 (0:06:29) 13:44 K2 When watching games in progress, what's the best way to deal with screen dize disparities? These leave behind additional information from previous screens which is normally cleared, which obscures what the person is doing 13:47 *screen size 13:48 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6533 (0:44:33) 13:49 pressing 'r' while spectating should resize the screen or at least redraw everything, I think 13:50 who the hell is Lolth and what is he doing in minetown? 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6784 (0:46:27) 13:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3538 points, T:2275, killed by Lolth, while being terrified of a ghost 13:52 new demon lord (lady, technically). probably summoned by chaotic same-race sacrifice 13:52 That's why I keep bones files off xD 13:52 sob 13:53 terrapin Thanks. It's working 13:53 What if I engrave Moloch instead of Elbereth btw? 13:54 moloch doesn't care enough about you to protect you :P 13:54 what if I am an infidel? 13:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:38409 (22:13:19) 13:56 I tested creating Lolth as an infidel in wizard mode. Spawned in peaceful 13:57 Imanity: she literally killed me 13:58 Oh I see you were an infidel in your last game 13:58 Maybe she's always hostile to the player, idk 13:58 peaceful is only 80%, too 14:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:38535 (22:20:53) 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a javelin entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:7681 (0:58:16) 14:06 oh nvm same-race sacrifice doesn't summon lords anymore. next most likely option is demon gating 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:76258 (1 day, 0:46:13) 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3489 (0:56:54) 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed oilskin sack containing 25 items on an altar, on T:4122 (1:10:37) 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 372 points, T:512, killed by a rock gnome, while frozen by a potion 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:15462 (1:57:38) 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law), 5458 points, T:5257, killed by a piranha 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 240 points, T:836, killed by a flind 15:12 well that is a cruel first mines level. ghost on stair, flind next to you with a 2h sword, impossible to move or ascend -- 1 shot city 15:12 now with two ghosts! 15:12 at least i've left some decent loot to go along with dbanethacker's katana and bupkis 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 9 points, T:83, killed by a goblin 15:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2322 points, T:2702, zombified by a hobbit zombie 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3154 points, T:3675, killed by a spear trap 15:49 Is there any reason to use magic lamp for light, over staff of Archmagi? Seems like they both give the same light radius 15:50 magic lamp works even when a pit fiend bullwhips your weapon away 15:50 (but no) 15:51 Tempted to take the 80% wish chance. 55k turns in, and no wishes all game 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1788 (0:27:01) 15:52 after 55k turns, what do you need the wish for? 15:52 More AC, gear, magic markers, etc.. Still using a stone helm 15:54 Also more chances at wishing for artifacts would be lovely. I want half physical asap 15:55 i think wishing for magic markers is pretty cornercase, usually not worth the opportunity cost. but you can always use a dragonhide helm of speed or oilskin cloth elven helm 15:55 what alignment? 15:56 Chaotic. I want death resistance, so will wish for Grayswandir to make GoP 15:57 A few stabs at wishing for MKoT, in addition to dragonhiding most of my gear would be what they'd be spent on. Any extra on magic markers 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2005 points, T:2187, killed by a giant cockroach 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 855 points, T:1377, killed by a bolt of fire 16:20 Djinni is tame, sad 16:20 This really is a wishless run 16:21 sweet, my starting ring of polymorph gave me a pet baby red dragon 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1114 (0:10:25) 16:22 baby found king yummy 16:38 \o/ 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4335 (0:24:02) 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 49 steel darts on an altar, on T:4961 (0:29:02) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5063 (0:30:37) 16:56 Imanity, you know GoP will sometimes unwield themselves if you are chaotic 16:57 i think k2 said 1/2000 chance 16:57 Is that each turn? 16:57 Or only if you tank alignment record 16:57 nope, even with ok alignment 16:57 for me even that small chance means GoPurity is contra-indicated when chaotic 16:57 i die to tiny improbabilities all the time 16:58 Yep, it makes them unreliable 16:58 but you get ring of p'hul so there is that! 16:59 wish i had a magic whistle for these red dragons 16:59 gonna starve trying to get them off the level with me 16:59 I've noticed pet AI can be kind of troll 16:59 my goal is to die somewhere where these red dragons will really f someone up -- nice and early 17:00 Like continally wandering around a few squares of items, instead of following you 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1004 points, T:1308, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 17:02 awww 17:02 no bones 17:02 xD 17:02 i'll get you bastards next time! 17:12 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13488 points, T:6948, killed by an energy vortex 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:41017 (1 day, 0:17:12) 17:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:42795 (1 day, 0:33:27) 17:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3673 (0:16:52) 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1843 (1:24:06) 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5468 (0:25:09) 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:5587 (0:25:43) 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3034 (0:53:52) 18:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Mitra, on T:46499 (1 day, 1:06:05) 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3334 (0:58:49) 18:12 terrapin - so I am revisiting the tempest commit and its stun immunity. its easy to prevent stunning when wielding tempest by adding just a couple lines to make_stunned() function. However, the majority of where make_stunned is used, the feedback given wouldn't match tempest negating. so to do it right (tempest negates all stuns) requires several edits 18:12 was missing a lot more than just Mb_hit :) 18:13 almost done 18:13 neat! 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12864 points, T:8602, killed by a bolt of cold 18:26 ...well that's no good 18:26 locate level has bones it seems 18:27 Good bones or bad bones? :D 18:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) destroyed parasite's ghost, the former Dresser, on T:32539 (1 day, 10:32:00) 18:31 "choked on a silver dragon corpse" 18:31 Classic Janis 18:34 fuck's sake, doesn't have a sack either 18:34 I mean thanks for Mojo 18:34 Solves my forging problem 18:35 partly eaten red dragon corpse here too, what was the thought process 18:36 Guess we'll find out in the next rec post 18:38 Accidentally cancelled the blessed bag of holding assuming it was cursed 18:38 that I could move it should've tipped me off 18:38 nbd 18:39 At least I can feel good about being an efficient pack rat 18:42 Hi magic lamp 18:45 Just need an amulet of magical breathing and I'll be set for endgame I think 18:46 Even have teleportitis to deal with Gehennom 18:51 Are there any dangerous monsters the wiki doesn't list? I know about antimatter vortexes 18:56 where in the game are you? 18:56 On my way to Medusa's 18:57 i thought you said endgame? 18:57 Only that I'll be set for endgame 18:57 The wiki covers the new nasty stuff, but vanilla stuff that has been made very nasty isn't on there 18:57 Medusa is fun, probably best not to melee! 18:58 Yep. WIll use fireball 18:59 VaderFLAG is there anything of note which isn't mentioned? 18:59 you up to speed with beholders? 18:59 Probably! But I'd inspect everything to check resistances and such anyway, since you'll be relying on that so much 19:00 Yes I met one a few runs ago. They disintegrated my items and I rage quit xD 19:00 You're definitely prepared for medusa and castle 19:01 I hope so. Might make yellow dragon scaled armor just in case for Medusa 19:02 Won't need to blind myself and will be able to cast skilled fireball 19:02 don't bother, she won't be a problem sonce oyu have fireball 19:02 She'll spend her whole time trying to shoot arrows at you 19:02 Alright 19:06 Non-skilled fireball seems to do respectable damage 19:06 Either one will do it fine, though you have reflection right, so you can be sighted 19:06 Yes, through dragonbane 19:07 But blinding would work too, right? 19:08 Yeah, long as you don't meet her gaze you're fine 19:08 whether you or her get blinded 19:08 She has melee-range stoning too, that said 19:08 Yeah, strength drain seems nasty too 19:08 All those str dr attacks are taken care of w/ poison resist 19:09 Nice 19:09 Reflection or blinding, either are sufficient to range attack Medusa 19:12 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±16] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/b1ffed17aa07...f7b7658e9985 19:12 [EvilHack] k21971 f7b7658 - Fix: some Tempest tweaks and fixes. 19:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:58203 (1 day, 7:39:14) 19:17 \o/ 19:17 \o/ 19:18 ty 19:21 woop 19:35 gj 19:35 also " suddenly seems weaker" is a drain life monster spell, right? 19:35 or is it drain strength 19:38 Drain life I think. Same as player message 19:51 That sucks. A 4 guaranteed wish castle wand, with no wishes prior 19:56 4 guaranteed wishes is a lot! 19:57 better than some idiot captain running around blowing wishes on crap and then getting the wand exploded by your mjollnir 19:57 what sucks is when the soldiers use the wishes! 19:57 Yeah I guess 19:58 "You hear someone wish for a blessed figurine of Grazz'zt." 19:58 lol 19:58 xD 20:04 that wish fails right? no unique figurines 20:04 Correct 20:04 It would fail 20:04 also letting elf wizard carry the bones BoH 20:04 already extracted everything of remote value 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1170 points, T:2286, killed by Mr. Kopasker; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 20:11 @e?Cyclops 20:11 Cyclops (H) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d8 weapon physical, 2d6 claw amulet steal, 4d8 weapon knockback | Align: -15 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 20:23 Dragonhide cloak of displacement. Very nice 20:24 Might swap out my cloak of protection for it 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 katana on an altar, on T:3298 (1:47:49) 20:50 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:55 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4375 (0:48:18) 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Law), 4019 points, T:3938, killed by a wolf, while praying 21:02 Interesting, Cyclops didn't go for wand of lightning like I thought 21:03 and done 21:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:33356 (1 day, 13:04:25) 21:03 Unskilled Giantslayer > 21:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33358 (1 day, 13:06:53) 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 5748 points, T:5624, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 21:18 Is the level below Gehennom considered a graveyard? 21:20 If you're talking about the Valley then no 21:20 Ye I mean below the valley 21:20 The Valley is a graveyard level, so is the Castle above it, the level below it shouldn't be usually 21:21 Perfect. Will use the Castle as my wraith holding facility and lure them all back through the valley afterwards 21:21 why not just lure the wraiths to the level above the castle? 21:22 I got the lava variant. There's a huge lava lake between downstairs and upstairs 21:22 wraiths fly over lava 21:22 Oh. Maybe the one I tested on was just being stubborn 21:23 Would simplify things quite a bit 21:23 or wands of cold 21:23 Yes that might entice him to follow 21:23 the castle you have in your game is my favorite! 21:24 Same. It's so pretty and perfect for wizards 21:24 With all the open areas to aoe in 21:26 are you invisible - I don't think wraiths have see invisible? 21:27 I am. That could be why 21:27 Think I killed a few mummies, there's probably some wrapping lying nearby 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 920 points, T:2313, killed by Mr. Picq; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 21:32 la dee da walking around kicking down doors for no reason 21:33 xD 21:34 would a msgtype alert work for the engraving? 21:38 oh no i definitely want to die when i do that, i'm just autopiloting around while my brain is on something else 21:39 left a nice magic lamp for someone maybe 21:39 :) 21:41 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide tshirt of decay", on T:60235 (1 day, 9:11:25) 21:45 ive had a big change of heart on drain resistance. i now like to keep my level nice and low until i'm ready to kill the wizard and ascend 21:46 drain me baby! 21:46 Almost got owned because I was eating the Cyclops and didn't notice the red naga approaching the iced-out section by the stair 21:47 just had to reapply some grease and dig out the corpse I was eating 21:47 That red naga was your swimming instructor 21:47 and you just killed him :( 21:47 I'll wish for sea scales when I damn well feel like it 21:48 all the more reason for drain resistance. drain yourself down to the minimum for all the skill slots you need, but make sure you aren't drained further 21:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:52 That's true terrapin. Might rethink my wraith adventures 21:54 you're just asking for unnecessary @npc trouble if you break 20 before the amulet. unless you are monking it up for sweet sweet intrinsics 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2683 (0:44:07) 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed krm26 the human zombie, and former Thaumaturge, on T:3034 (0:30:07) 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a queen bee, on T:3477 (0:34:06) 22:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:60253 (1 day, 9:32:11) 22:06 Goodbye stone orcish helm. You won't be missed 22:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f7b7658e9985...6a47d9013c92 22:07 [EvilHack] k21971 6a47d90 - Defending against cancellation odds adjusted when wearing gray dragon-scaled armor. 22:08 Is that commit a nerf to GDSM? 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4645 (0:45:44) 22:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:33637 (1 day, 14:14:59) 22:14 did you read it? 22:14 Yes but didn't undestand it 22:14 > Adjusted up from 80% to 94% (both player and monster). 22:15 Oh that's very nice 22:15 Especially with all the choices that are available 22:15 Maybe more will join the cancellation gang xD 22:17 meh. cancellation made things interesting, and GDS was already one of the better scales 22:17 I see. Needed to go to that github individual commit to see the extended description 22:18 What did I miss about cancellation? 22:18 back in my day, we had a 4/5 chance of resisting, and we liked it! 22:18 and we had to walk upstairs to Moloch's Sanctum both ways 22:18 xD 22:19 arahael: gray dragon-scaled armor now gives a much better chance of protecting your items from cancellation 22:19 It's getting tougher for monks by the sounds of it, comparatively. 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5514 (0:54:42) 22:23 i can change it back if you like 22:24 K2: Ha, it actually kind of fits, I just wish there was a defense monks had against cancellation. 22:26 from previous comments, I think I'm in the minority 22:26 monks get a ton of free defenses against a bunch of other things just from leveling up. i think that's more than fair 22:27 Indeed they do. :) 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:4170 (1:11:56) 22:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering an Uruk-hai corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3173 (1:12:40) 22:30 hmm i may adjust that to 90% 22:30 i'll sleep on it 22:31 K2: It makes sense that it's bumped up, but 1/16 is quite high. 22:32 Yeah. Cancellation is so crippling too 22:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3260 (1:15:30) 22:32 Losing hours of progress from one fucker with a wand 22:32 you understand that last commit, it went from 80% of time you're *protected from cancellation* to 94% 22:32 it went in the players favor 22:33 Indeed. 22:33 ok 22:33 just making sure :) 22:33 K2: Keep in mind, I only play monk ,so... ;) 22:33 Hmm, cleaver's a good weapon I think. 22:34 I should set it aside until after the quest, though. 22:34 Was it changed in Evilhack? 22:36 K2: Actually, I might suggest keeping the chance of protection the same, but make it affect _less_ instead. 22:36 arahael you can already affect how many objects in inventory can be affected 22:36 no MR vs MR vs MR + half spell damage 22:38 Oh, that's good to know! 22:38 Felt like it affects a lot with just MR, even, though. 22:38 it'd be worse without it 22:40 Hmm. Two magic lamps in this orctown, at least. 22:42 it's 1d6/3/2 with nothing/mr or half spell/mr and half spell. That's and average of 3.5/2/1.5 items cancelled, not counting the fact that a good chunk of your inventory may mundane and thus unaffected, and artifacts usually resist. Obviously that's small comfort if your +5 dragonbane gets cancelled, but that happening is pretty low probability 22:44 I usually only have MR. 22:44 And keep almost everything in my bag. 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 21748 points, T:6865, killed by an ice devil of Huan Ti 22:45 i suppose that would make things more difficult 22:46 Wishing for a half spell damage artifact is what I'd do when I get around to playing monk 22:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:47 Fiar. 22:47 *Fair 22:50 oh huh the mirror of merlin no longer needs to be wielded by non-knights for reflection. TIL. 22:50 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6a47d9013c92...efbd42f40c35 22:50 [EvilHack] k21971 efbd42f - Tweak to last commit. 22:51 terrapin yeah the MMoM change wa reverted back to vanilla behavior in current version i think? or 0.8.0 22:51 *was 22:52 yeah 0.8.0, commit was a year ago almost to the day 22:55 heh, I'm kinda surprised I even knew used to have that behavior in the first place. didn't think I was source diving back then 22:56 Hmm. DragonSided's bones. 22:57 Probably a good opportunity to use Cleaver, I guess. Being able to hit the energy vortex multiple times while engulfed has to be worth giving up on the weaponless conduct. 22:58 Hmm. Unless... Each of those hits is a melee attack. 23:00 you only get one hit when engulfed, it seems 23:00 On the plane of water, can you get still outside the bubble and walk to the portal through water like in vanilla? Assuming breathlessness ofc 23:00 yup 23:00 Pog 23:01 I knew those goggles were given to me for a reason xD 23:01 you do get shoved around by water currents a lot if you don't have swimming---can't remember if that's in vanilla or not 23:03 In that case, I'd better hunt down a sea dragon 23:05 oh, speaking of: k2, the current movement boost for fast swimming monsters does nothing. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/efbd42f40c35e2c512b36d0006bfeca3c29d8444/src/mon.c#L1015 23:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:60316 (1 day, 10:32:56) 23:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 14 wooden shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5509 (1:57:35) 23:14 how so? 23:14 is that equation just normal speed? 23:15 Hmm. 14 wooden shuriken. 23:15 yeah: it multiplies and then divides by three (the extra +2/3 of a movement point is discarded) 23:17 presumably it should be the same as line 1018, or maybe divide by 2 instead for a slightly larger boost 23:20 specifically mmove = (4 * mmove + 2) / 3; for a ~33% speed increase or mmove = (3 * mmove + 1) / 2; for ~50%. 23:21 ok 23:21 thanks 23:24 also, maybe it should be just an if and not an else if? currently hasting a fast_underwater monster has no effect, and slowing one removes any bonus it would have from water 23:25 ugh yeah i see that 23:27 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/efbd42f40c35...4f12487feffc 23:27 [EvilHack] k21971 4f12487 - Fix: various monsters movement speed while underwater. 23:34 terrapin thanks for pointing that out 23:35 sure thing 23:35 needed to give the sea dragons a fighting chance against Imanity :) 23:35 xD 23:35 good night, y'all 23:35 heh 23:36 gnite o/ 23:36 Makes me feel bad about using sokoban as their tomb 23:36 gn o/ 23:46 *sigh*, a random amulet of reflection. Makes me feel bad about my plans to wish up dragonbane. 23:48 night 23:48 'Night, Umbire! 23:48 Oh I was saying night to terrapin 23:48 Don't you have wish options for slotless MR? 23:50 Umbire: The only option for that is the amulet of MR, right? 23:50 You're neutral, you have EotA and PYEC 23:50 risky though they are 23:51 EotA also isn't slotless but frees you up to use DBane for reflection if you like 23:53 Fair point. Perhaps I should just get EotA. That's a good combination anyway, forgot it was slotless MR too. But... Those are quest artifacts. 23:53 I dont' think I can survive the blast yet, though. 23:57 I mean I just said it wasn't slotless bc lolamulet 23:57 and yes, there's the blast on top of the owner maybe showing up 23:58 Yeah, I'm only Xp 9 as it is. It's too early to wish up the artifacts.