01:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 487 points, T:2268, killed by a rothe 02:04 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8667 02:05 -!- Guest8667 has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:30 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:09 I think I managed to get neovim LSP with clangd to work properly on nethack source now if anyone is interested 03:09 so seems I get warnings/errors/completion properly not 03:43 -!- nabru has quit [*.net *.split] 03:43 -!- aosdict has quit [*.net *.split] 03:44 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 03:47 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 04:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:60125 (18:03:33) 05:09 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 05:55 k2: add this in mhurtle after has_erid check: 05:55 k2: elif mon->rider_id: /* monster ridden by another monster */, etc. 05:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 06:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:05 maybe this k2: https://snippet.host/btpwhx 06:06 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1113 (0:22:19) 07:01 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a leather helm of speed, on T:10604 (4:15:00) 07:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1483 (0:26:29) 07:16 terrapin, krm26 thank you! I will have a look once I get settled in at work 07:16 K2: Message from terrapin at 2023-04-11 22:34 EDT: https://termbin.com/ahjj. Basically krm's suggestion. without it, mhurtle_step removes the rider from the square, moves the steed to a new square, but leaves the steed also on the original square, which makes place_monster think the latter is a tail. separating them so there is one monster on the square before mhurtle_step starts should fix it 08:17 krm26, i cant load your link 08:17 'site cant be reached' 08:19 hah terrapin I tried almost the EXACT same thing you have in your termbin, except i was using ERID(mon)->m1 instead, and it wasn't 'else if' just 'if' 08:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:22 seriously, some of these names are misleading 08:22 i didnt look at mon->rider_id because i thought that had to do with the RIDER 08:23 this is all going into new version, might as well rename all these functions so they make sense 08:25 changing rider_id to mon_steed 08:25 ^ makes sense? 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1950 points, T:2479, killed by a rothe 08:27 /* Is the monster riding another monster or being ridden? */ 08:27 rider = 0; 08:27 if (has_erid(mon)) 08:27 rider = mon; 08:27 else if mon->rider_id { 08:27 for (mtmp = fmon; mtmp; mtmp = mtmp->nmon) { 08:27 if (mon->rider_id == mtmp->m_id) 08:27 rider = mtmp; 08:27 break; 08:27 } 08:27 if rider { 08:27 if (canseemon(rider)) 08:27 pline("%s is knocked straight off %s %s!", 08:27 Monnam(rider), mhis(rider), l_monnam(ERID(rider)->m1)); 08:27 separate_steed_and_rider(rider); 08:27 } 08:27 hah 08:27 just use termbin or 0x0 like a normal nerd 08:27 :P 08:27 thought you could try that hurtle fix 08:28 i hate the web 08:28 yeah gonna try both 08:31 -!- Loggers_Vagabond has joined #evilhack 08:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:36 ok rider_id is no more, it is now 'mon_steed' 08:36 has_erid() could prob be renamed also 08:37 ...i don't understand that renaming? rider_id belongs to the mount and is the m_id of the monster riding it, right? 08:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:38 has_erid really means the_f_this_mon_is_riding so is poorly named, but I thought rider_id was fine 08:39 now that i've found get_mon_rider i would instead try: 08:39 /* Is the monster riding another monster or being ridden? */ 08:39 rider = 0; 08:39 if (has_erid(mon)) 08:39 rider = mon; 08:39 else if mon->rider_id { 08:39 rider = get_mon_rider(mon) 08:39 if rider { 08:40 if (canseemon(rider)) 08:40 pline("%s is knocked straight off %s %s!", 08:40 Monnam(rider), mhis(rider), l_monnam(ERID(rider)->m1)); 08:40 separate_steed_and_rider(rider); 08:40 } 08:40 bro 08:40 (mon)->rider_id literally meant 'this is the rider's steed' 08:40 krm26 yeah please, put that in a termbin 08:40 rider_id --> mon_steed makes more sense to me 08:41 seeing rider_id made me think 'that's the rider' 08:41 but -- it is, it is the id of the rider for a mount -- isn't it? 08:41 no 08:42 look where rider_id is used 08:42 -!- Loggers_Vagabond has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:45 i thought i did -- get_mon_rider in mon.c and steed.c 08:46 nano src/steed.c 08:46 oops 08:46 yeah 08:47 if !mtmp->rider_id) then return 0 08:47 meaning if its not on a steed, its not a rider 08:48 no i am correct 08:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:49 argh 08:49 this code uses comments SO POORLY 08:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:51 could ask antigulp 08:51 she's been around lately 08:51 so confused, it looks like ridden_mon_to_glyph gets handed EITHER a rider or a steed but then doesn't bother checking which is which before rendering the glyph 08:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:54 does making no changes but that last blob i dumped up above not fix the knockback problem? 08:54 krm26: got a link? I want to see how poorly the comments are used 08:57 sorry, was just some restating of what the code said in some steed related line i was just flipping through 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3089 (0:20:09) 09:12 so this really didn't fix anything k2? https://pastebin.com/pjp7wiNB 09:13 i havent tried yet 09:13 havent tried terrapin's yet either 09:13 work keeps getting in the way 09:13 oh ok 09:13 damn you work! 09:13 i will asap 09:13 no worries, i thought you had implied that it was a bust 09:14 oh noooo 09:14 sorry if i came across like that 09:14 i was just put off by the misleading 'rider_id' 09:18 !who 09:18 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-eu] Graznop [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 09:26 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:31 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:33 @ircpuzzles/2023/april/winner/qt hah nice qt 09:33 hey 09:33 Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack 09:33 thank you :P 09:34 I see your message about the knockback thing 09:34 cool 09:34 both terrapin and krm26 have proposed solutions 09:34 cool 09:34 terrapin - https://termbin.com/ahjj krm26 - https://pastebin.com/pjp7wiNB 09:35 i also renamed rider_id to mon_steed because it was misleading as fuk 09:35 i havent tried out either yet, about to 09:36 yeah getting a separate_rider_and_steed call into steed knockback makes sense 09:41 qt did that one person ever keep bugging you about giving up first place for them? lol that's so crazy 09:41 ^ ircpuzzles 09:42 they shifted to repeatedly telling staff and others that actually they found the answer before me and would have gotten first place but made a typo when entering it 09:42 lol 09:42 wow 09:42 just... wow 09:42 missing context, did they actually have the answer first? 09:44 doubtful aosdict but who knows. the context is that this person messaged me when we were both working on the final puzzle and basically said "hey, I REALLY care about getting first, so if you don't care about the rankings... [wait until I have solved the puzzle to finish it, or tell me the answer, was the implication I think]" 09:44 then when I finished it they contacted me and said "maybe if you tell the staff you don't care about getting first place, they will allow you to award first place to me, would you do that?" 09:44 and then a day or two after that they finished the puzzle they started saying that they had actually gotten the answer first but made a typo 09:45 they definitely did not solve the puzzle first but it's conceivable they just tried guessing a bunch of random plausible words and the real answer was in there 09:45 who is the person? are they on the solo ranking page? 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2069 points, T:2559, killed by a wolf 09:46 was there some sort of system in place that would lock you out of making further guesses if you did make a typo, or was it just "oops let me fix that and try again" 09:46 it s true, i remember their canadian girlfriend telling me that 09:46 aosdict: no you can guess as many times as you like, in fact they said that they repeatedly guessed the answer but kept making the same typo 4-5 times 09:46 riiiiight 09:46 and that 30 second window was all you needed to get in first, it was that neck and neck? 09:46 shady as fuk 09:47 aosdict - https://blog.ircpuzzles.org/category/rankings/ 09:47 aosdict: they solved the puzzle like 3 days after me in reality, but according to the story if they hadn't made a typo they would have gotten it before me 09:47 2nd place was almost 24 hrs after qt 09:47 lol 09:47 the universe was simply conspiring against them 09:47 qt ah so they arent even on the ranking page 09:48 qt yeah they are full of shit, and i bet everyone concerned realizes it 09:48 K2 yes they're on that page but I don't really want to call them out by name or anything 09:48 are they? 2-5th place are within 48 hrs 09:49 yeah I guess it wasn't actually 3 days, it was about 2 days 09:50 i bet it was switchnode 09:50 what a dick 09:50 i will take your silence as confirmation 09:51 :P 09:51 no it wasn't, switchnode was cool. stop guessing -- I will tell you in PM, I just don't see a need to publicly drag by name a person who seems to have autism or similar 09:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:14469 (6:23:31) 09:51 oh that's not autism 09:52 you dont have to tell me their name 09:52 i dont recall ever seeing an autistic person trying to take credit for someone elses work 09:53 you should refrain from public dragging in general or ron desantis will come get you 09:53 ron can suck it 09:53 ha aosdict 09:53 and after telling ron to "suck it", he was never heard from again 09:53 @e?ron desantis 09:53 No such monster. 09:53 hahah 09:54 @le?donald trump 09:54 Donald Trump (T) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 12 | Res: disintegrate petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 100 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 20d10 weapon banishment | Align: -20 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker 09:54 @@le?ron desantis 09:54 ron desantis ~6~ green mantis (a) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: special | AC: 4 | Atk: 1d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, passes-bars 09:54 why does hecubus have slex entries 09:54 oh 09:54 last update it prob reverted back 09:54 i manually killed it 09:54 i dont maintain my own repo on the hub 09:55 on da 'hub 09:55 rub a dub hub 10:00 qt question, krm26 and I have a small disagreement - to me rider_id means 'this is the steed', is this correct in your opinion? 10:01 do you mean if rider_id is present, it means the monster with that field is the steed? 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1555 (0:14:43) 10:01 I think rider_id is the m_id of the rider, isn't it? 10:01 well at this point, not sure 10:01 how i see (m)->rider_id being used, its telling me that == the monster steed 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1591 (0:15:37) 10:02 rider_id <--- that label is misleading i think 10:02 maybe i'm wrong, dunno 10:02 can you give me an example? I think mtmp->rider_id means mtmp is the steed, rider_id is the m_id of the rider 10:02 rider_id is the mid of the rider 10:02 but maybe I'm remembering wrong 10:02 afai could figure out in 90 seconds of doodling around 10:03 example - dog.c line 430 10:03 i'll know i'm right if that patch works 10:03 that's saying "if mtmp->rider_id exists, that means mtmp is being ridden" 10:04 so it makes sense, if it has a rider, it is a steed 10:04 right 10:04 (m)->rider_id == mon steed 10:04 I think I am being confused by the way you're putting it 10:05 yeah, to me rider_id is correctly named, it is the id of the owning structures rider 10:05 you mean "if (m)->rider_id is nonzero, (m) is a mon steed" right? not "the rider_id field refers to a mon steed" 10:05 mtmp->rider_id IS the monster steed 10:05 right? 10:05 i'd make a macro imasteed that consult rider_id if wanted that kinda name 10:05 no, I don't think so 10:05 no 10:05 FUUUCK 10:05 rider_id is the id of the rider of the mon 10:05 if mtmp is the monster steed, it has a nonzero rider_id which contains the Id of the rider 10:05 at least, if the patch i linked works, that is what it is 10:05 ^ yes as qt said 10:06 ok i can rename it back 10:06 the erid stuff is what is named doofily 10:06 or 10:06 yeah idk why erid steed pointer is just called "m1" 10:06 what could rider_id be changed to that makes sense at a glance? 10:06 my_riders_id 10:07 mon_rider_id? 10:07 my_rider makes me think 'player rider' 10:07 but erid references the monsters MOUNT and so is very poorly named 10:07 clearly an abbreviation of "riding", i.e. what i am riding 10:07 but a poor choice 10:07 welp now is the time to rename this stuff 10:07 i'm open to suggestions 10:08 you're right that "rider_id" kind of sounds like it means "I am a rider, and this is the ID I have been assigned in that context" 10:08 qt yeah 10:08 thats why i didnt use it in my edits last night 10:08 i thought it meant 'the rider' 10:08 but it's the id of the monster riding it so idk it does make sense 10:09 erid also sort of makes sense in the context of "eshk", "edog" -- it's the mextra struct for a monster's role as rider 10:09 before renaming anything quick try my sleazy patch to fix the bug? 10:09 krm26 yeah 10:09 but yeah the fact both steed and rider fields are named after "rider" 10:09 is definitely confusing 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1975 (0:23:19) 10:09 one of them should be renamed somehow 10:10 "riding" and "ridden_by" maybe 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1866 points, T:1986, killed by a piranha 10:10 that's a good way to distinguish them, would be very clear 10:10 i also don't really get why rider_id is an m_id instead of a pointer 10:10 because of save/restore i assume qt 10:10 look where it is referenced 10:10 oh yeah that makes sense 10:11 but that is why there is the nasty dereferencing function 10:11 that my patch uses 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4261 (0:28:50) 10:12 ok trying krm26 patch 10:18 ok that seems to work 10:18 yay! 10:18 i had to make some corrections though 10:19 rider wasnt defined 10:19 yeh i just barfed that out without building, my bad 10:19 almost wrote it in python 10:19 hahah 10:19 The hill giant knocks the wolf back with a forceful blow! The goblin outrider is knocked straight off her wolf! The wolf bumps into a goblin outrider. 10:19 excellent 10:20 gonna try terrapin's as well 10:21 but this is great we have a solution 10:22 seriously i think i could have fixed this myself if i had realized what rider_id was 10:22 i feel like the dumb 10:24 Story of my life 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14833 (6:36:39) 10:27 aaaarrrghhhhh fatfingered the last soko level >:( 10:27 dammit hands, you should know how to do this by now 10:27 brb work stuff 10:28 \o/ knocked-back rider fix \o/ riders riding riders when? ;P 10:32 I tried to think of how many bugs riders riding riders would cause but the human mind isn't equipped to comprehend infinity 10:33 the data structures seem to support chaining riders on riders 10:33 would need descriptive mechanisms so the player could tell that was what was happening 10:34 (i mean, obv, totally awful idea tho :-) 10:35 no way great idea 10:35 can add goomba stacks 10:35 linked list of monster steeds 10:36 terrapin's patch works also 10:36 almost a doubly linked list if rider_id were a pointer 10:36 those linked lists man 10:36 i guess it's basically a doubly linked list since rider_id can be translated to a pointer 10:37 The hill giant punches the wolf. The hill giant knocks the wolf back with a powerful strike! The wolf is knocked out from under its rider! 10:37 ^ I like that 10:38 krm26 i'm gonna go with terrapin's patch. i like the specific feedback 10:38 thank you though, we've broadened our understanding of monster rider/steeds 10:40 sweet, this handles ashmar knocking back a mon steed also (no reason why it shouldnt, same thing) 10:42 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 11985 points, T:9499, killed by Baphomet 10:45 gah 10:45 :/ 10:45 uh oh was that bones depth 10:45 !lastgame 10:45 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/LoggersSnail/evilhack/dumplog/1681302420.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1681252160.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1680684548.evil.html 10:48 I want to play nethack with my steamdeck I have a keyboard for it 10:50 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1170 points, T:1815, killed by a gnome lady 10:53 just discovered another bug 10:53 do tell 10:53 The goblin-captain is burned by your mithril Ashmar! You kill the goblin-captain! 10:53 Ashmar knocks the goblin-captain away from you! You kill the goblin-captain! 10:53 dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Dlvl:1 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 10:55 there's already a guard against that (i thought anyways) 10:58 should be simple to fix 10:59 that seems ashmar-specific 10:59 it is 11:01 ok fixed that 11:02 just added a check for DEADMONSTER(m) 11:02 should just pull out the deadmonster check in the previous if to its level 11:02 ugh my cat is a wrecking ball 11:03 argh 11:03 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1643 (0:13:41) 11:03 killed by cat 11:08 question - if u.dx, u.dy is the direction the player is going, what is the equivalent for a monster? 11:10 or is there 11:12 and did we agree that rider_id should be something more like 'ridden_by' ? or was that something else? 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9909 (1:31:13) 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:9227 (0:48:23) 11:14 qt, krm26? 11:15 oh krm26 left 11:16 I don't think there's a direct equivalent to dx/dy for a monster. You could look at (mtmp->mx - mtrack[0].x) and (mtmp->my - mtrack[0].y) 11:16 and yeah krm26's idea was something like "ridden_by_id" for "rider_id" and "riding" for erid->m1 I guess 11:16 ridee_id 11:17 I would say "steed_id" but that would get too confounded with usteed stuff 11:18 but one is an ID/int and the other is a monst * 11:18 the only ID one is the rider rather than the "ridee"/steed 11:19 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 11:19 "riding" for erid->m1 11:19 so erid->riding ? 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:9590 (0:51:22) 11:22 I don't know if krm26 meant "erid->riding" or "riding->m1" (or whatever). "riding" would be a lot longer than other mextra struct names so I figured it was "erid->riding" but it's really up to you 11:22 k 11:25 heh nymph dropped two potions of object detection 11:25 never seen that before 11:28 struct monst *m1; /* monster being ridden */ 11:29 so m1 could be mon_steed 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11130 (0:58:22) 11:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3378 points, T:4234, killed by an orcish arrow 11:30 oh geez, and struct monst *m1 is used for something else in mon.c 11:30 yeah changing this 11:36 @e?master kaen 11:36 Master Kaen (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 10 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 16d2 claw physical, 1d4 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast clerical, 16d2 claw knockback | Align: -20 | herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 11:39 hah he can do nearly double my HP in a single turn 11:40 seems funny I will fight him 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 44436 points, T:13269, killed by an earth elemental 11:48 oops 11:48 misclick 11:50 :/ 11:52 @?master kaen 11:52 master kaen ~1~ Master Kaen (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 10 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 16d2 claw physical, 16d2 claw physical, 0d0 cast clerical, 1d4 claw amulet steal | Align: -20 | herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 11:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:10 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±21] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/7d4adbeb442c...699aec9df648 12:10 [EvilHack] k21971 699aec9 - Fix: monster steed being knocked back while being ridden. 12:10 the relabel wasn't too terrible 12:11 but m1 was being used for two completely different things in two different files 12:15 thanks for the assit on this krm26, terrapin, qt 12:15 assist 12:15 as sit 12:21 food time, brb 12:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:5, killed by a water demon 12:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7 points, T:39, burned by molten lava 12:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Fem Law), 273 points, T:588, killed by Gollum 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2926 (0:02:54) 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1972 (0:12:21) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3590 (0:07:08) 13:00 ooh these shuriken are of lightning 13:00 very very nice damage 13:00 sweet 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2490 points, T:3615, killed by a hobgoblin 13:00 oh that was dumb lol 13:01 tunnel vision 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1062 points, T:1006, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 89 points, T:276, killed by a fox 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 29 points, T:130, killed by a black pudding 13:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:18208 (8:30:28) 13:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3397 (0:25:49) 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 227 points, T:285, killed by a giant rat, while gazing into a crystal ball 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5327 (0:28:55) 13:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 magical darts on an altar, on T:4220 (0:34:58) 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:564 (0:04:04) 13:20 and an amulet of reflection on the next floor! 13:20 reflection and MR by turn 715 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1324 (0:07:59) 13:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3794 points, T:4678, killed by a warg 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5097 (0:31:23) 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5150 (0:31:45) 13:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:31 hah just saw this - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/12itdrk/help_releasing_katherine_the_enchantress_with_a/ 13:31 i replied 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class @), on T:6265 (0:38:54) 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6900 points, T:6265, killed by a scroll of genocide 13:33 toss candy bars to pacify, nice idea =D 13:34 I told them to teleport her with a wand and was mortified when terrapin said she has teleport control 13:34 she does 13:34 I've teleported her before, I did not know 13:34 *poof* hahahah miss me? 13:34 lol 13:34 you see my reply about the camera/candy bar? 13:34 no, let me check 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:6179 (0:48:14) 13:36 when I first met her she quaffed cursed gain level and rose up through the ceiling. she later killed me anyway. 13:36 lol 13:36 we addressed the cursed GL bit 13:37 :P 13:37 quick, throw this ipad! 13:37 r u n 13:38 f o r r e s t 13:38 r u n 13:39 lol just saw your reply 13:39 https://youtu.be/bSMxl1V8FSg?t=23 13:39 yeah I didn't get the camera bit 13:39 who wouldve thought that gasing ppl would make them pissed of 13:40 when i pick mini-me up from school i'm gonna throw a kitkat at her and see what happens 13:40 maybe there could be a "don't take candy from strangers" YAFM if you throw one at her in game 13:41 i'm seriously considering implementing this 13:41 it wouldnt be a guarantee, but a chance to work 13:41 it's a pretty damn good idea I gotta admit 13:41 yeah it is 13:41 but hey, he lived to tell the tale 13:41 that's impressive 13:41 yeah that I was impressed with 13:42 I've been trying for weeks to think of some way to face her and win a round but I've come up stumped every time 13:43 the wiki was not lying about those magnitudes 13:43 Ice Branch checklist: cold resistance, levitation / water walking, b?oF, candy... 13:43