00:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 573 points, T:1240, killed by a goblin
00:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4424 (0:34:28)
00:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2933 points, T:4627, killed by a rothe
00:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:16704 (5:45:29)
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00:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:18715 (2:31:30)
00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3140 (0:27:38)
00:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a smooth shield entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:18264 (6:13:23)
00:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:19566 (2:47:27)
00:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 3045 points, T:3689, killed by a hill orc
00:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:19285 (6:36:00)
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02:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:29156 (4:13:03)
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02:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:31315 (4:44:47)
02:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Gia Fem Neu), 60011 points, T:31474, poisoned by a locust
02:48 <Umbire> F
03:06 <Umbire> haha finally
03:06 <Umbire> Smoky wish let's go
03:07 <Umbire> ...fuck do I even wish for tho
03:07 <Umbire> playing my tortle priest on eu
03:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide helm of speed named The Loggers Special", on T:1579 (1:52:18)
03:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1870 (2:03:32)
03:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1933 (2:06:43)
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03:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a rothe corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:3378 (2:35:51)
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04:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3726 (2:43:19)
04:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:114503 (1 day, 20:37:31)
05:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:114779 (1 day, 21:10:56)
05:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:114782 (1 day, 21:11:33)
05:30 <Umbire> @e?vampire bat
05:30 <Hecubus> vampire bat (B) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 1d6 bite physical, 0d0 bite drain str | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, flies, regen, poisonous, infravis
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07:09 <Imanity> Is there an easy way to determine Sokoban prizes? Perhaps by luring an intelligent unique monster and using a stethoscope/attacks. Would be able to distinguish 2/3 prizes that way
07:13 <terrapin> you can determine the object classes with a potion/spell of object detection, but not the specific item until you pick it up
07:13 <Imanity> Yes, but was wondering if you could determine the specific item with the method described above
07:14 <Imanity> Since them being unique would bypass scare monster+Elbereth, and the item won't disappear until touched by you
07:14 <terrapin> oh, by getting a monster pick it up? I'm pretty sure they never pick them up, to prevent you from luring them to a different level and getting multiple prizes
07:15 <Imanity> Damn, no escape from the RNG ig xD
07:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 89300 points, T:22805, killed by a Nazgul
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07:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2219 points, T:3850, killed by an imp
08:46 <terrapin> ooh, it occured to me that you could polymorph into a xorn/gelatinous cube to gain info on a soko prizes materials. You could always distinguish between tool prizes, and sometimes between armor prizes
08:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 993 points, T:2401, killed by a sling bullet
09:48 <mobileuser> reading blessed magic detection in sokoban will add to your knowledge of previously unknown items I suppose terrapin?
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10:28 <K2> [backscroll] YOU have to kill a shambler to get the pokedex info on it. that's by design
10:28 <K2> having a monster kill it for you doesnt count
10:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:42896 (16:15:51)
10:28 <K2> and good morning :P
10:29 <Graznop> g'day
10:30 <K2> good day to you sir... I said good day!
10:30 <K2> hahah
10:30 <K2> i'm such a dork
10:32 <Graznop> Quick question, is forgetting spells less slowly if you cast them meant to be a help or a hinderance?
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10:34 <K2> a help
10:34 <K2> if you do it right, you'd only have to read a spellbook one time
10:34 <Graznop> mm. ok, thanks
11:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1890 points, T:2904, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping
11:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:11 (0:00:07)
11:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 0 points, T:8, killed by a fox, while praying
11:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1348 (0:10:34)
12:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Trt Mal Law), 1002 points, T:912, killed by a purple worm
12:50 <terrapin> k2 mvitals[foo].died increments regardless of cause of death, so any shambler death allows you to see the info
12:52 <terrapin> oh mobileuser that's a clever idea. I meant that you could poly into, say, a cube, and try to eat the tool prize off the ground. If you could, it's BoH. If you can't, it's almost certainly a marker.
12:52 <mobileuser> that's a lot more creative :-)
13:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4284 points, T:4987, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede, while praying
13:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:45106 (18:03:16)
13:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Wiz Trt Fem Neu), 341 points, T:1414, killed by a mountain dwarf
13:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:45857 (18:28:44)
13:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2873 (0:36:46)
14:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3197 (0:45:04)
14:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1916 points, T:3339, killed by a piranha
14:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 6699 points, T:6310, killed by a gnoll, while sleeping
14:11 <mobileuser> fuck, a fellow cultist is owning me with acid blasts at my own altar
14:12 <mobileuser> going to try with an alchemy smock I have at stash, but he's hard to hit too, has been picking up all the gear I discarded
14:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1828 points, T:2366, killed by a plains centaur
14:28 <mobileuser> hahaha Pat the invisible Cultist, that torrent of acid does nothing now!
14:31 <terrapin> more of a soothing, exfoliating shower?
14:31 <mobileuser> OMG
14:31 <mobileuser> Auzgut the Idolatress appears in a cloud of brimstone!
14:31 <mobileuser> what the fuck K2 :b
14:31 <terrapin> :o
14:32 <mobileuser> decisions decisions
14:32 <mobileuser> do I run away or make my stand and die
14:34 <mobileuser> I don't have holy water or remove curse, a curse on my BoH is another disaster waiting to happen
14:38 <mobileuser> well, it's unfun if I run away, let's just see
14:41 <mobileuser> 1 Infidel down, and: Auzgut the invisible Idolatress is burned by your mithril thonged club of fire!
14:41 <mobileuser> an Infidel without fire res??
14:42 <mobileuser> ooooh
14:42 <mobileuser> Auzgut the invisible Idolatress is an orc
14:45 <mobileuser> Gihaush the Cultist appears in a cloud of brimstone!
14:45 <mobileuser> yeah fuck this K2
14:45 <mobileuser> imo that makes no sense
14:47 <mobileuser> well I got lucky that last Infidel was peaceful
14:48 <mobileuser> meanwhile my inventory is pretty messed up now
14:51 <mobileuser> Grorlith the Cultist plays a fire horn directed at you!
14:51 <mobileuser> is this an Infidel convention???
14:51 <mobileuser> lmao
14:52 <mobileuser> I'm going to gtfo now...
15:06 <mobileuser> oops another shambling horror
15:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:72703 (21:00:03)
15:09 <K2> wat
15:09 <K2> whats the issue?
15:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2843 points, T:2102, killed by a saber-toothed tiger
15:10 <mobileuser> bit much that Infidel NPCs can summon more Infidel NPCs (imo)
15:11 <K2> talk to Tomsod
15:12 <K2> he's been around i think, didnt he pop in here for a moment a couple weeks ago?
15:14 <mobileuser> Tomsod thought that up?
15:14 <mobileuser> bit much Tomsod :-)
15:15 <K2> of course he did. i've only made minor changes to the role
15:15 <mobileuser> "The shambling horror escapes upstairs!" bastard :b
15:16 <mobileuser> K2 there are no NPCs in vanilla
15:16 <K2> you mean player monsters?
15:21 <mobileuser> yeah player monsters
15:21 <K2> there are
15:21 <K2> just on astral plane
15:22 <mobileuser> Infidel player monsters would only be on the astral plane
15:22 <mobileuser> yeah that
15:22 <K2> Gihaush the Cultist appears in a cloud of brimstone! <--- not a player monster
15:22 <K2> hmm
15:23 <K2> wait
15:23 <mobileuser> that was a player monster summoning a player monster
15:23 <K2> lol
15:23 <K2> what did you break
15:23 <mobileuser> my constructive feedback: that's a bit much ;-)
15:25 <K2> 'appears in a cloud of brimstone!' only appears in one place in the code
15:25 <K2> minion.c
15:25 <mobileuser> Attacks: 5d3 sting confuse, 6d4 bite physical, 6d4 touch steal gold \o/
15:25 <terrapin> total guess (I don't know how youmonst works): if youmonst.data is the same for player monster infidels and you, then when you get crowned, the game thinks NPCs are demons
15:25 <mobileuser> killed the shambling horror myself this time
15:25 <K2> that line is for when a demon summons another demon minion
15:26 <K2> hahah
15:26 <terrapin> since is_demon checks ptr=youmonst.data && Race_if(PM_DEMON)
15:26 <K2> terrapin is on to something
15:26 <mobileuser> the player monsters were orcs and humans
15:26 <mobileuser> but I am a demon
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15:26 <K2> right
15:26 <K2> player monster infodels are never demons
15:27 <K2> *infidels
15:27 <mobileuser> terrapin the shambling horror stats appeared when I killed one myself
15:27 <K2> nice bug
15:27 <mobileuser> yay I found a bug again
15:28 <mobileuser> been awhile
15:28 <K2> when crowned as an infidel, npc infidels can summon more infidels
15:28 <K2> this is awesome
15:28 <K2> feature!
15:28 <mobileuser> only if I can use #monster!
15:28 <K2> lol
15:28 <terrapin> they are jealous of Moloch's favor and start teaming up
15:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1081 points, T:505, killed by a giant cockroach, while praying
15:29 <mobileuser> "You don't have a special ability in your normal form!" :-(
15:29 <mobileuser> ^ bug
15:29 <terrapin> mobileuser I don't think you killed the U the first time; it was on a downstairs and disappeared, so I think it fled
15:29 <mobileuser> aaah
15:30 <mobileuser> this must have been the same one then
15:30 <K2> added to bug tracker (infidels summoning more infidels)
15:34 <K2> I suppose a quick hacky fix would be to add !is_mplayer(ptr) to where a demon is summoned
15:34 <K2> mobileuser there's an actual chance for a demon lord to appear i think
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 260 points, T:590, killed by a magic missile
15:35 <K2> or a regular demon
15:35 <K2> small chance
15:35 <K2> hahah that'd be fun
15:35 <K2> this is where i start complaining about there arent supposed to be any bugs on weekends
15:39 <mobileuser> oh my
15:41 <terrapin> demons (thus NPCs) also may spawn peaceful to crowned infidels---msummon isn't the only problem
15:42 <mobileuser> why is "may spawn peaceful" a problem?
15:42 <mobileuser> that's intended
15:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1541 points, T:3949, killed by a fire elemental of Mog
15:43 <terrapin> just saying that monster infidels counting as demons has unintended effects besides demon gating
15:43 <K2> i wonder if they hate silver
15:44 <K2> i better fix would be to make sure that an infidel player monster is never flagged as MH_DEMON
15:47 <K2> Janis is back at it - https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/m47FGjwunUg
15:47 <hackemslashem> oh so after you are crowned MH_DEMON is added to the infidel monster, and then they are eligible for demon summoning?
15:47 <K2> most of his complaints occur in vanilla nethack. ooh boy
15:47 <K2> hackemslashem yeah that's what it appears to be
15:48 <hackemslashem> Ahh cause of the race shift, tricky
15:48 <K2> in pray.c when an infidel is crowned, urace = race_demon;
15:48 <K2> and set_uasmon() is called
15:51 <K2> i have an idea
15:51 <K2> testing
15:54 <K2> well first lemme recreate the bug
15:54 <K2> need a baseline
15:56 <K2> Tyalion the Idolater appears in a cloud of brimstone!
15:56 <K2> hahah
15:56 <K2> ok lets test some theories
15:58 <K2> The silver dagger hits Tyalion the Idolater!  The silver dagger sears Tyalion the Idolater's flesh!
15:58 <K2> \o/
15:58 <K2> terrapin is wise
15:58 <K2> mobileuser, you have discovered a bug and fulfilled the prophecy
15:59 <mobileuser> lol
15:59 <K2> :P
16:01 <K2> ok testing a fix
16:04 <K2> hmm that did not work
16:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:47026 (19:35:30)
16:10 <K2> crap that didnt work either
16:15 <K2> not clear how to fix this
16:15 <K2> i could suppress is_mplayer() from being able to summon a minion but that's only a band-aid
16:32 <mobileuser> pfff I still need holy water RNG (whine, whinge)
16:33 <mobileuser> I should swallow my pride and start doing scroll price-id
16:33 <mobileuser> * mobileuser shudders
16:33 <K2> noooo
16:33 <K2> dont shudder!
16:33 <K2> you can flollop, that's ok
16:34 <mobileuser> * mobileuser flollops wildly around
16:37 <K2> aosdict, hackemslashem, anyone that uses github - https://github.blog/2023-03-23-we-updated-our-rsa-ssh-host-key/
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16:38 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±8] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/39b63c3e5b9f...61fbffdee892
16:38 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 61fbffd - Being underwater (player or monster) provides protection against fire/acid attacks.
16:38 <K2> lol mobileuser
16:38 <K2> you shall be known hence forth as... Zed
16:39 <K2> sorry, Zem
16:40 <mobileuser> I shall retire to Sqornshellous Zeta then
16:40 <K2> \o/
16:41 <K2> \o/ for understanding what the hell i'm rambling on about
16:41 <mobileuser> ;-)
16:50 <K2> ah crap I left the debug pline active
16:50 <K2> will fix in next commit
16:51 <hackemslashem> K2: I can think of a few approaches for the infidel problem, but none are very pleasant
16:52 <K2> if they break saves that's fine (from my perspective)
16:53 <hackemslashem> A separate monster feels like the easiest way - something for mplayers to be, so that they don't share the same race info as the player
16:54 <K2> hahahha its so funny you mention that
16:54 <K2> that's how it was in evilhack early on
16:54 <K2> and it caused a ton of issues
16:54 <hackemslashem> well, dang
16:55 <K2> one thing i tried in mplayer.c in init_mplayer_erac() function - if (rptr->mrace = MH_DEMON)  rptr->mrace &= ~MH_DEMON;
16:55 <K2> for the infidel switch case
16:56 <K2> that didnt work
16:56 <hackemslashem> Ok - another idea. When a player is crowned and turned into a demon, are they usually able to polymorph?  I'm guessing yes
16:56 <K2> yeah
16:56 <hackemslashem> Since that's their new base form.
16:57 <hackemslashem> Ok. My idea was to use a perma-poly solution instead of directly changing the race
16:57 <elenmirie> the fact that lava gremlins exist is my fault
16:58 <K2> hmm
16:58 <elenmirie> neuron fires, straight to fingers, and in it goes to the book of evil
16:59 <elenmirie> then some mofo implements it
16:59 <mobileuser> it may be your idea, but I still blame riker
16:59 <elenmirie> well, that sounds like a plan
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17:00 <hackemslashem> I don't know if it's possible but you could crown them, poly them into a demon, then grant permanent unchanging. This would prevent further polys though, but I'm guessing players don't usually do much poly after this particular event anyway??
17:00 <mobileuser> I do selfpoly
17:01 <mobileuser> for a stat reset
17:01 <K2> hmm
17:01 <mobileuser> selfpoly into own race that is
17:01 <K2> that would also protect against unwanted poly
17:02 <elenmirie> poor polly, no one wants her!
17:04 <bhaak> PatR has your back regarding Janis in RGRN
17:04 <K2> i just saw that hah
17:05 <bhaak> BTW, Google Groups has a notification when a new message in a thread appears. the only nice feature I just learned about
17:05 <K2> it may be prudent for me to not comment on that thread
17:06 <K2> i feel a shift from 'trying to help' to 'being defensive' and i dont like that
17:06 <bhaak> :)
17:07 <K2> i'm also the type that runs towards the gunfire, so i dunno
17:07 <K2> :)
17:07 <bhaak> erm
17:07 <hackemslashem> Some people just like bitchin about stuff *shrugs*
17:07 <Loggers_VIII> I feel like janis would be a lot less frustrated if he would just join IRC to ask questions instead of insisting on using usenet
17:07 * bhaak strikes K2 from the list of people he would go to war with
17:07 <Loggers_VIII> by the time someone sees his posts he's already died
17:08 <K2> lol bhaak
17:08 <K2> Loggers_VIII, some people just dont feel comfortable using irc or any form of realtime online comms
17:08 <K2> and thats ok
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> fair
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> what's janis' hardfought username? I know I got his soldier with a wand of death bones
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> which, again, vanilla behavior :P
17:10 <bhaak> I'm somewhat surprised him complaining about locusts. those go way back to SporkHack
17:11 <K2> yup
17:11 <K2> Loggers_VIII, in the past he was Stroller I think
17:11 <K2> not sure about now
17:11 <K2> and for all we know he's playing locally
17:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3277 (0:30:05)
17:12 <K2> regardless, he's old school power player. tons of asc
17:12 <Loggers_VIII> yeah it's ridiculous
17:12 <K2> which is why i'm confused about some of his complaints
17:12 <Loggers_VIII> somewhat surprised he's talking about chameleon arch liches like it's a problem with evilhack
17:13 <Loggers_VIII> I mean, it is, but it's also a problem with vanilla
17:14 <Loggers_VIII> oh, I see, he's speculating on whether the chances for them to turn into arch liches has increased
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17:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 61 points, T:249, killed by a grid bug, while dragging an iron ball
17:16 <K2> it hasnt
17:16 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
17:17 <Loggers_VIII> I guess it's just one of those things. you know, 'something in the variant happened I didn't like, it must have been changed'
17:18 <Loggers_VIII> I'm guilty of thinking like that myself I'll admit
17:18 <mobileuser> what the devs call "variant paranoia"
17:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1897 points, T:4105, killed by a dust vortex
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17:21 <Loggers_VIII> oh didn't realize the convict's shirt is fireproof
17:21 <Loggers_VIII> that's kind of nice actually
17:26 <K2> prevents easymode burining it off in a forge :P
17:26 <K2> *burning
17:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 420 points, T:1382, killed by an arrow
17:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1949 (0:09:20)
17:37 <Loggers_VIII> can you bury a punish ball and wrench free of it in evil?
17:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:49113 (20:51:19)
17:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:49113 (20:51:35)
17:40 <Loggers_VIII> oh nice I tamed an enormous rat
17:40 <Loggers_VIII> @e?enormous rat
17:40 <Hecubus> enormous rat (r) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 8 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 2d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis
17:40 <Loggers_VIII> not too shabby
17:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49207 (20:56:31)
17:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49397 (21:04:49)
17:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49484 (21:09:46)
18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49799 (21:24:18)
18:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49901 (21:28:30)
18:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 2253 points, T:3321, killed by an elven watch captain, while dragging an iron ball
18:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1950 (0:16:07)
18:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 stormbringer", on T:34 (0:00:21)
18:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 4 points, T:34, killed by touching Stormbringer
18:17 <Loggers_VIII> that's right I start with negative alignment
18:18 <Loggers_VIII> which seems a bit weird, to be honest... I'm chaotic, what's not to like about escaping from prison?
18:19 <Loggers_VIII> let's be honest it's just there so you can't pray for food >:(
18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49984 (21:32:39)
18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 6 points, T:79, killed by a goblin
18:19 <Loggers_VIII> oh I am playing on the wrong account
18:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 111 points, T:425, killed by an iron ball collision
18:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) had an alchemy smock entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:625 (0:03:05)
18:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 91 points, T:413, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food
18:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) had a steel javelin entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:1178 (0:06:08)
18:24 <Loggers_VIII> sometimes there really is nothing you can do for food
18:25 <Loggers_VIII> if no monsters spawn you get no alignment so you can't pray and you get no corpses to eat
18:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) had a steel dwarvish short sword entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:2000 (0:09:11)
18:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:50318 (21:46:02)
18:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Con Ith Mal Cha), 902 points, T:1328, killed by a bugbear
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18:43 <Graznop> that was fun - altar adjacent to Goblin town portal
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18:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Ith Mal Cha), 62 points, T:179, killed by a grid bug, while dragging an iron ball
18:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3764 (0:48:23)
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19:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:9942 (1:31:25)
19:54 <Umbire> Well that's a pisser.
19:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Trt Mal Neu), 16340 points, T:12079, killed by a death ray
19:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8441 (1:57:54)
20:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:10134 (1:41:31)
20:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8841 (2:07:10)
20:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:1141 (0:11:59)
20:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1147 (0:12:20)
20:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1297 (0:14:08)
20:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:12139 (2:05:09)
20:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2348 points, T:1916, killed by a mountain dwarf
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20:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Cav Gia Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4399 (0:51:49)
20:47 <Imanity> Do helms block zombie's sickness attack 100% of the time?
20:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4783 (1:01:57)
21:05 <terrapin> Imanity no. 75% of the time for hard helmets and 50% for soft
21:05 <Imanity> Hmm, guess I just got lucky then
21:08 <terrapin> k2 "orcish knight called Dergi the Pawn, riding a nightmare, wearing some armor"
21:08 <terrapin> "You slash Dergi the Pawn!"
21:08 <K2> yeah
21:08 <terrapin> "Dergi the Pawn recoils from your iron long sword!"
21:09 <K2> ooh boy
21:09 <terrapin> when playing an elven knight
21:09 <K2> are you an elf?
21:09 <K2> yeah
21:09 <K2> lol
21:09 * K2 sobs
21:12 <K2> i've updated the bug tracker
21:13 <K2> I may need qt's help with this one
21:13 <K2> the code whisperer
21:13 <K2> brb
21:13 <terrapin> it's a doozy all right
21:23 <K2> alrighty kiddo put to bed
21:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:13322 (3:26:56)
21:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1137 points, T:1940, killed by a bolt of cold
21:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13974 (3:33:10)
21:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:20779 (3:21:47)
21:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Hob Mal Neu), 24339 points, T:20811, killed by a leocrotta
21:44 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/61fbffdee892...d2fc6f22a421
21:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:75042 (21:37:09)
21:44 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 d2fc6f2 - Fix: heap-use-after-free when tipping a container with a wand of cancellation into a bag of holding.
21:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1498 (0:15:25)
21:54 <terrapin> if you were to replace all cases of mon->data (and mtmp->data, etc.) with r_data(mon), would that fix the issue?
22:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a piranha), on T:3785 (0:33:58)
22:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:16004 (4:07:09)
22:07 <Imanity> Wow, that was quick
22:07 <Imanity> Forging time ig
22:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +0 battle-axe on an altar, on T:3956 (0:37:45)
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22:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a white unicorn), on T:4360 (0:43:53)
22:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:16322 (4:23:38)
22:23 <terrapin> after lots of seds, I have an answer: yes, but also no
22:24 <terrapin> no more weird material hatreds
22:24 <terrapin> but monsters aren't named properly, and there are probably other similar bugs
22:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:5034 (0:57:02)
22:28 <terrapin> races are prioritized over classes so npcs, shopkeepers, priests, etc are called elven elfs, dwarven dwarfs, etc. 
22:29 <Umbire> dual-class elfs
22:31 <terrapin> fucks up a lot of initial inventories too (npcs & mercenaries)
22:32 <terrapin> I stand by the fact that replacing *some* of the mon->datas would fix the issue, but trawling through each occurrance to determine which should be changed would be a shit-ton of work
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22:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:5476 (1:25:36)
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23:38 <K2> terrapin thanks for looking into that
23:38 <K2> i dont mind the work if that's what it takes
23:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Cav Gia Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Fuck this, I give up.", on T:12263 (3:42:26)
23:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 13544 points, T:12266, killed by a water demon
23:40 <Umbire> Baphomet on that floor btw
23:40 <Umbire> I just wanted to restore my stats and the literal worst case scenario occurs
23:40 <Umbire> lmao
23:40 <Umbire> first quaff
23:40 <Umbire> Bag wasn't in inventory so that's still good if you can get to it
23:41 <K2> :/
23:41 <K2> terrapin, I've added your comments to the bug tracker. will have a serious look at this tomorrow
23:41 <K2> sleepy, gnite o/
23:42 <terrapin> good night!
23:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Gia Fem Law), 4 points, T:98, killed by a goblin
23:43 <Umbire> bad luck decided to twat the next giant I had too just for good measure
23:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:9049 (2:14:56)
23:47 <terrapin> :(
23:48 <terrapin> you're saving up karma for when you find a magic lamp on d1
23:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to him by Set, on T:9483 (2:23:32)
23:54 <Umbire> I already had a magic lamp
23:55 <Umbire> It's in that first giant's bones