00:18 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 00:23 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:49 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:50 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:52 well my vampire king disintegrated themselves and their -36 AC setup on a black dragon 03:52 so not happy about that 03:57 Umbire: Get K2 to adopt this hackem patch :) 0e5832978 - Pets won't melee monsters with passive disintegration unless they resist it 03:58 I'm sure he'll see this and save it for next release if he hasn't already 04:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 696 points, T:1629, killed by the Goblin King 04:23 Probably could've whistled it away in retrospect but that's turns not spent killing the thing that can disintegrate both of us 04:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2087 (0:22:10) 04:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:2245 (0:25:44) 04:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:111269 (1 day, 18:12:41) 04:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:111271 (1 day, 18:12:54) 05:02 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:26 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 05:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:29 Got my first Evilhack wish. What's a good one to go for? Illithid wizard who has no resistances and explored to Oracle level/minetown 05:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:31 bone gauntlets of power? 05:32 illithid biggest problem is strength 05:32 Yeah, my eating for poison intrinsics has taken a number on my strength too 05:32 I'm guessing they can't spawn gemstone? 05:33 no, for non-metal it's bone or stone 05:33 Alright, will go for it 05:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "Blessed greased fixed +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:7991 (1:15:21) 05:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:8029 (1:16:42) 05:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5279 points, T:8046, killed by an ancient pseudodragon 05:36 Sadge 05:36 ouch :-( 05:37 Yep, guess shouldn't have tried to poly that hostile water demon 05:37 pet got confused? 05:38 Nah, was fountain dipping on Oracle level, water demon managed to gate in 2 friends, polyed them and got an ancient pseudodragon 05:38 Eating poisonous corpses for the resistance isn't worth it 05:38 Was same speed as water demon so shouldn't run to exit 05:38 they can be tamed btw by throwing food at them! 05:38 *should've 05:38 Oh, like domestic animals 05:38 yeah 05:38 legit wait for safe corpses 05:38 also yeah 05:39 Can't you eat until you get enough strength loss for it to become a major problem 05:39 Then pray it away? 05:39 You can but I wouldn't recommend it at all 05:39 possible but risky 05:39 especially not on a race strapped for STR as it 05:39 is* 05:40 I'm not sure where your generation luck is but fungi corpses are decent enough to start, poison instadeath goes away at 35% resistance iirc 05:41 Often I find there are nowhere enough safe corpses until you meet a bunch or Uruk Hai 05:42 or killer bees/giant beetles 05:46 try orc wizard, at least you start with poison res :-) 05:47 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:47 Will do 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 381 points, T:1322, killed by a giant mimic 06:00 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1250 (0:09:19) 06:26 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4346 points, T:5351, killed by a plains centaur 06:43 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:01 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 07:03 !tell K2 I found this in EvilHack too (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/237) -- yes yes lies I know... 07:03 I'm on it, hackemslashem. 07:04 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07 I think there's also 6a980c4a4 (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/141), I'm getting heap-use-after-free when putting wand of cancellation into BoH also 07:16 0e5832978 - Pets won't melee monsters with passive disintegration unless they resist it <--- not happening, as full disint odds are low 07:16 K2: Message from hackemslashem at 2023-03-23 07:03 EDT: I found this in EvilHack too (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/237) -- yes yes lies I know... 07:16 hackemslashem LIES 07:18 thanks hackemslashem 07:18 First he calls me a liar, than thanks me? So confused 07:23 LIES 07:23 i dont get a crash when i tip a container that has a wand of cancellation in it into a BoH 07:24 evilhack 07:25 it doesnt happen with my copy of hackem either 07:25 Do you have the debugging thingy enabled 07:25 ASAN? 07:25 no 07:25 oh its all memory stuff 07:25 LIES 07:25 yep yep, 07:26 HAX 07:26 If only amateurhour were here to back me up 07:26 He'd say, ASAN NEVER LIES 07:26 heh 07:27 back in a bit 07:33 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:00 weee 08:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:5611 (1:32:58) 09:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:7032 (1:41:46) 09:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "ura", on T:8699 (3:04:04) 09:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:8815 (3:06:39) 09:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:112113 (1 day, 18:59:27) 10:19 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 10:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:40 terrapin I'm addressing some of the things you observed last night 10:40 levitating monsters (wearing ring/boots) are accounted for. also added handling for water walking monsters 10:41 been working on thrown/fired projectiles whilst underwater 10:41 WHILST 11:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10567 (3:44:42) 11:09 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10944 (3:53:36) 11:35 whilst'v'de 11:39 :) 11:39 heya stenno, how are things? 11:39 looking forward to the weekend 11:39 arent we all :P 11:39 true 11:40 also i solved a certain problem with regards to the onlinettyplayer so i am kinda in that project again 11:40 will probably write more tomorrow and on the weekend 11:40 sweet 11:40 this weekend I am hoping to test out some home rowing/exercise machines 11:41 gotta stay fit 11:41 my endurance is poo, need to get back into shape 11:41 same 11:41 i thought about getting a hometrainer 11:41 exercise bike 11:41 so i can ride it indoors while watching youtube oslt 11:41 i have an old exercise bike but it sucks 11:42 and it hurts my back 11:42 and my kid is too small to use it (she wants to work out with me) 11:43 have been looking at one similar to this - https://i.insider.com/629913a6e319620018a84439?width=1200&format=jpeg 11:43 (rowing machine) 11:44 plug it in to a generator 11:44 :D 11:44 those are good btw (rowing machine) 11:44 have it feed the powerwall 11:44 yeah 11:44 and we can both use it (myself and mini-me) 11:45 but yeah ever since retiring from the military, no forced incentive to work out hah 11:45 may I ask what kind of position you had? 11:45 I never even did conscription 11:46 i was infantry for the vast majority of my career. was enlisted (not officer), made it up to master sergeant 11:46 ah ok, cool! 11:46 still do things like shooting to keep up the training? 11:46 no 11:46 i have a couple weapons but i havent used them in awhile 11:47 now that the ice queen is mature enough, this summer i'll teach her about gun safety 11:47 ah cool 11:47 I kinda want to possibly get into sport shooting 11:47 but cant be arsed :D 11:47 I would if I lived somewhere else though 11:47 i'd like to get her a single shot .22 yeah, sport shooting 11:47 or not competing just training a bit 11:48 K2: TBH it had not occurred to me that you might _not_, at some point, have been a sergeant of some kind 11:48 she already knows to 1) never put her finger in the trigger well and 2) never point it at/flag anyone 11:48 Pinkbeast hah 11:49 i was once a private :P 11:49 my first thought when you said about 1/2 is "starship troopers" 11:49 the book is way better than the film 11:49 with the person that gets shot 11:49 ah 11:50 in the excercise, forgot what happened 11:50 the knife thing? 11:50 rico was whipped if i recall 11:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B203twyaMfM 11:51 this film is so great 11:52 that hand looks so fake 11:52 hahah 11:53 film was entertaining for sure, but the book... recommend reading it 11:53 if i lived in the usa i would probably buy a gun just because i can 11:53 but not for 'defense', just for the aesthetics 11:53 "for fun" 11:53 (to shoot a bit at a range) 11:54 shooting at the range is actually a form of stress relief 11:54 yaeh like that 11:54 must be great 11:54 it is according to a friend (that shoots here) 11:54 he is also in the home guard 11:54 i havent fired a gun since i retired 11:55 and if I recall he also had done sniping courses 11:55 i have a few in the gun safe, they havent seen the light of day in awhile 11:55 i have some friends who buy up guns like crazy, i never understood that 11:56 i'm like 'if the zombie apocalypse happens, you cant shoot them all at the same time' 11:57 it'd be like a ranger in nethack collecting a bunch of bows 11:57 bah, fuck bows 11:57 it is all about daggers 11:57 :D 11:57 hahah 11:59 I have one long rifle, one shotgun, and 2 hand guns, both 9mm (one is normal size, the other is sub compact and easy to carry/conceal) 11:59 that's it 12:00 a guy i work with was telling me yesterday he inheretted 176 registered firearms from his uncle. building a 'safe room' at his house to keep them all in, on top of what he already has 12:00 holy shit 12:00 yeah 12:00 but what if there are ghosts 12:00 he should donate them to the poor instead of hoarding them 12:00 and the guns become possessed! 12:00 lol 12:01 One of the "why George R. R. Martin is full of it" posts on acoup.blog remarks "the Mongol’s chief weapons were his bow, followed by his backup bow, followed by his other backup bow, followed by his spear, and then his axe and only then followed by a sword, should he have one, which he might well not" 12:01 i would rather purchase a small number of firearms (only what you 'need') and then stock up on ammo 12:01 so IDK, four seems like a lot 12:02 4 is not a lot! *thinks about collecting keyboards* 12:02 in an ideal society i wouldnt need any Pinkbeast :/ 12:02 unless hunting 12:02 just the rifle for hunting 12:02 I mean, I only own five bicycles, that seems like a reasonable number 12:03 well, and a hand gun. i'll take that with me sometimes when we go hiking in the woods (we have bears) 12:03 cbus: I've got my Model M, my backup Model M, and the one that got trashed and is now supplying spare keycaps 12:03 you shouldve said model f 12:03 :D 12:03 Models F are not so readily available 12:03 "I got a couple of 40% orthos, 2 65% and soon a hhkb layout 60%" 12:03 woops 12:04 secrets revealed 12:04 Actually I lie, I've got about four bog-standard Dell keyboards that work were just chucking out 12:05 But they're no good for serious work; you can't press hjklyubn extra hard to do more damage 12:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:14375 (3:12:08) 12:13 heh 12:14 Pinkbeast are you going to attend wordcon 2024 (Glasgow) ? 12:20 Almost certainly. 12:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had a copper dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:15139 (3:20:32) 12:21 i also like sentencecon and charactercon 12:22 Pinkbeast awesome. i'm attending as well, bringing the family with 12:22 me: 'Kathryn, how do you like worldcon?' her: 'I don't like it ' 12:23 Clare was on the committee for a while, burned out on that but will probably end up doing some staff role, meaning I will spend most of the convention doing whatever Clare says 12:24 hah 12:24 'yes, dear' 12:25 and then we'll go find a scottish pub 12:26 In '05 there were several within staggering distance, but also '05 managed the heroic achievement of drinking not only the real ale bar but the _brewery_ dry 12:26 outstanding 12:27 ooh, we might also be able to witness mobileuser do some dishes 12:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 68 points, T:362, killed by a mithril dart 13:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3179 (0:33:10) 13:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:16545 (5:33:51) 13:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3088 points, T:4024, killed by a wolf 13:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had a steel helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:18318 (4:37:18) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:7082 (1:51:58) 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7515 (1:55:39) 14:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:20008 (5:02:46) 14:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:41 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 14:52 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/442a2ac22dc4...95ed3591ffb7 14:52 [EvilHack] k21971 95ed359 - Follow up to 'inconsistent attack behavior while submerged in water'. 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:7692 (2:29:27) 15:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:868 (0:08:47) 15:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:47 whatcha think of the follow up? 15:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 31258 points, T:26844, killed by a touch of death 15:58 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:11 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 16:16 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:16 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 16:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 636 points, T:1692, killed by a hobgoblin 16:52 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:12706 (3:43:13) 17:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Con Hum Fem Cha), 58789 points, T:23169, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 17:09 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a wooden chain mail entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14487 (4:16:26) 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 31896 points, T:14998, killed by an energy vortex 17:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:52 neat that there are still some attack options available from underwater! I think they all have good downsides though: polearms require See_underwater, a large enough body of water, possibly polearms training depending on geometry, and won't work on covetous monsters. Grappling hooks require flails training to use reliably without hurting yourself, and ranged needs really high damage to make up for slow effective attack speed. Enough options that 17:52 terrapin: Message from Loggers_X at 2023-03-22 23:02 EDT: I didn't mean it negatively (about finding bugs), it improves the experience for everyone playing. If that's being a killjoy I have to say I'm finding joy in the wrong things :P 17:52 you might be able to use them occasionally and feel clever, but they're not very cheesable 17:54 no worries, Loggers! my concerns stemmed purely from my inner critic :) 18:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:22 cool 18:24 yeah as discussed earlier, not every option should be taken off the table 18:26 hah i just discovered another minor bug 18:26 flaming weapons still burn their target when underwater 18:26 you could make an argument for it, but hmmm 18:43 hah... i just made it so spellcasting monsters can cast spells at you while you're underwater (got rid of !Underwater from m_canseeu() define) 18:44 seems fair since the player can cast at monsters while underwater 18:44 this is neat 19:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:46 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bamarche2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8 points, T:50, burned by molten lava 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bamarche2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 650 points, T:1275, killed by an Aleax 20:11 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31 T1200 Aleax, nice 20:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof greased bag of holding", on T:2187 (0:29:56) 21:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3383 (0:55:16) 21:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Cen Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:3475 (0:57:49) 21:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Cen Fem Cha) genocided gelatinous cubes, on T:3476 (0:59:00) 21:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3663 (1:01:03) 21:17 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/95ed3591ffb7...39b63c3e5b9f 21:18 [EvilHack] k21971 39b63c3 - m_canseeu() allows seeing the player underwater. 21:22 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 21:30 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Kni Cen Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:4733 (1:27:32) 21:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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