00:15 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:21 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 194 points, T:1125, killed by Mr. Asidonhopo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:3314 (1:03:29) 01:52 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3926 (1:13:09) 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4932 (1:22:49) 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Crom, on T:5419 (1:27:48) 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (woodchucks), on T:6515 (2:40:46) 02:14 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:6084 (1:35:11) 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:6296 (1:37:05) 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6701 (2:45:14) 02:17 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 02:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6768 (2:47:17) 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:6701 (1:42:03) 02:27 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ettin mummy, on T:8422 (1:58:04) 02:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 13677 points, T:8075, killed by a bolt of lightning, while praying 03:03 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:10878 (2:23:55) 03:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:27 -!- arahaelWeb has joined #evilhack 03:27 I've found another bug in evil hack: I'm nearly burdened, my inventory contains 875 by weight, and I have the strength to carry exactly that much. 03:28 I also have 37 gold pieces, and another 5134 gold pieces in my uncrushed BoH... 03:28 If I put the 37 into the bag...  I get burdened! 03:28 If I take it out again, I'm unburdened again! 03:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:12763 (2:50:37) 03:37 -!- arahaelWeb has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:14102 (3:07:43) 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:14103 (3:07:49) 03:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:12356 (6:40:37) 04:01 Arahael was your BoH cursed? 04:01 mobileuser: Message from Umbire at 2023-03-16 18:46 EDT: Still need to identify the dilithium 04:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:15931 (3:27:23) 04:14 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:16168 (3:34:59) 04:31 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Bar Gia Mal Neu), 261414 points, T:16622, killed by a blast of water, while praying 04:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 05:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:13 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:14 -!- milance has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:34 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:46 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:26 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:47 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:17 janis papanagnou is asking evilhack questions on RGRN btw :) 07:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:22 o tempora o mores 07:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 4530 points, T:2696, quit 07:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:33 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 522 points, T:981, killed by a gas cloud 07:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2058 (0:32:16) 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:977 (0:07:22) 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 greased crystal helm of brilliance", on T:1036 (0:10:47) 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2257 (0:36:44) 07:48 cbus thanks 07:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:49 i havent visited rgrn in forever 07:49 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 2668 points, T:1927, killed by a crocodile 07:55 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:877 (0:06:56) 07:55 yeah I only visit it every few weeks 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1188 (0:10:54) 08:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1538 (0:14:45) 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4455 (1:09:16) 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3892 (0:39:15) 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 7883 points, T:3898, killed by a gnoll 08:39 -!- milance has joined #evilhack 08:42 it seems that Loggers is taking a break after his ascension :-) 08:43 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 08:44 maybe heh 08:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:01 cbus who are you on RGRN? 09:04 I am nobody 09:04 I dont post :D 09:05 also great post about mentioning irc cause that is definitely the way to go for communicating even though it would be cool if ppl posted a couple YAAP there maybe 09:06 could potentially get the variant a couple of tries of the ppl on rgrn :) 09:13 are there even real people left at RGRN? 09:14 a few 09:19 maybe we can lure^H^H^H^Hbring them to IRC? 09:20 yes! sounds like a good idea :D 09:20 and kinda what I was hoping for! 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 32361 points, T:10248, killed by a chameleon imitating a zruty 09:41 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 09:44 -!- milance has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:44 that janis person is kind of passive/aggressive in their opinions of evilhack :) 09:46 Reading his threads now. They're kind of entertaining xD 09:46 yeah 09:46 i replied to a few of them 09:47 they're pretty big into slash'em 09:47 note to self - I need to actually ascend slash'em 09:47 i keep saying i'm going to and never do 09:48 Janis was always somewhat special. doesn't help that he's German. 09:48 Heard slash'em is prety good 09:48 Lmao 09:48 lies 09:48 They have unique mechanics like gypsies and the black market 09:48 janis has been around for a *long* time 09:49 hackem also has black market 09:49 but no gypsies 09:49 ascending slash'em is like believing having to watch that special black and white movie from 1925. it might have been good for its time (probably not though) and now you got better stuff. 09:49 yeah 09:49 ye 09:49 cbus: that sounds racist like hackemslashem is racist 09:49 :D 09:50 he keeps complaining about interface issues. i want to say 'because you're used to 3.4.3 and its variants' but *shrug* 09:50 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Hackem 09:50 he'll figure it out 09:50 and then they wont ever be able to play 3.4/slashem again 09:50 he's used to 3.4.3-NAO though. so the difference shouldn't be THAT big 09:50 because the UI feels outdated 09:53 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:04 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 10:05 janis plays on NAO? 10:05 i thought janis was one of those vanilla players 10:05 vanilla 3.4.3 10:05 if so what is their username? 10:05 I think even the most hardcore vanilla players consider NAO as vanilla 10:06 no more 3.4.3 on NAO I believe? 10:07 erm, yeah, I mean they consider 3.4.3-NAO as vanilla 10:07 i meant unpatched 3.4.3 here 10:07 unpatched 3.4.3 wouldnt have dumpfiles if I recall? 10:07 Stroller is his NAO user name 10:07 yes, that's correct 10:07 ....what 10:07 and no menucolors either I think or am I misremembering? 10:08 JANIS IS STROLLER? 10:08 holy fuck 10:08 i didn't know that 10:08 he played in my junethack clan at some point in the distant past iirc 10:08 hehe, cool 10:09 number 1 vanilla Z-score 10:09 yep 10:09 cbus: yes, that's correct as well 10:11 he has been playing variants from time to time (that means variants that have been around for ages) and has in the recent years picked up slashem 10:13 apparently, I haven't pulled Usenet in ages. it feels like 1999 again, when usenet was very active and I was using a modem. lots of new postings and it takes many minutes to pull everything new. 10:13 hhe 10:13 I use google groups to browse it 10:14 but that sucks :) 10:14 true 10:14 also it has a blinding theme 10:17 no more 3.4.3 on NAO I believe? <-- correct 10:18 hardfought has 343-hdf, which is 343-nao with some updates and more QoL bits 10:18 when 3.7 is officially released, NAO will cut players over from 3.6.x to 3.7 10:18 ouch, QoL bits :b 10:18 yeah cant have QoL things! 10:18 makes the game too esay 10:18 easy 10:19 and then hardfought will start hosting 3.8 dev if/when that's ever a thing 10:19 skip 4.x go straight to 5 10:20 seen quite some people complaining about the unihorn nerf in #nethack 10:20 bunch of LOSERS imo 10:21 hahah 10:21 you remember when ppl were complaining about all the changes and differences in 3.6.0/1 vs 3.4.3-nao? 10:21 and now the vast majority love 3.6 10:22 it will happen again 10:25 yes, i was one of those persons, admittedly 10:27 only 3.7 things I am not sure about is the nerf to stealth 10:27 and the changes with lava/water in gehennom that makes the wall non diggable 10:27 so it will be a hassle to go through 10:28 (stealth nerf being that any creature that is asleep and attacked will scream unless oneshotted by that attack) 10:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:28 I hate that stealth nerf. It's cost me a few ascensions 10:28 to me it makes stealth pretty much useless 10:28 Especially when you attack something you don't expect to scream, and suddenly you're surrounded by 5 angry bois 10:29 all it does is that you play like a knight 10:29 Yep, it's kind of irrelevant now 10:29 kick a few times in the air 10:29 and then handle it 10:30 -!- Graznop_ has joined #evilhack 10:30 -!- Graznop is now known as Guest2454 10:30 -!- Guest2454 has quit [Killed (iridium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:30 -!- Graznop_ is now known as Graznop 10:31 hackem has an artifact ring that grants old-vanilla style stealth 10:31 felt quite weird to clean up zoos with it without waking the whole zoo :-) 10:32 :D 10:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1150 (0:05:36) 11:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2316 (0:11:23) 11:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a wand), on T:10132 (2:28:28) 11:07 Wow, random uncursed amulet happened to be life saving 11:07 Nice 11:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 11995 points, T:10517, killed by an energy vortex 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3979 (0:24:09) 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6677 points, T:4181, killed by a champion of Chih Sung-tzu 11:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1344 points, T:2126, quit 11:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 963 points, T:1795, killed by the Goblin King 12:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3183 (0:17:11) 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1834 (0:45:05) 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1930 (0:47:33) 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1876 (0:11:42) 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3195 points, T:7871, killed by a fire elemental of Camaxtli 12:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 12:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:06 K2: Do dilithium crystals have to be ID'd for you to forge with them? 13:06 The gameplan is to ID them anyway, but I may as well ask 13:06 no 13:07 Bet 13:07 Shame the closest forge is unironically at Ice Queen portal floor 13:08 Just as well since I want to try for fleshing out my kit a tiny bit more 13:10 giants can dual wield two handed weapons, right? 13:11 i.e. tsurugi of muramasa and cleaver 13:12 Yes 13:12 si 13:12 Also I appear to have no dilithium at all 13:12 Bothersome 13:13 I'd go below Medusa if I could reliably restore speed from all the stoning nonsense I'll have to put up with 13:13 and/or if I knew ring of levi 13:14 medusa isn't so bad if you have a couple wands of fire 13:14 but no levitation is annoying 13:14 Why fire specifically 13:14 I mean I do but 13:14 she weak to it? 13:14 yes 13:15 idk why but she is 13:16 for real though I somehow don't have speed monster 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Law), 306 points, T:1537, zombified by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 3431 points, T:3280, killed by a water moccasin 13:18 woops forgot trying to convert an altar and failing messes with prayer 13:18 umbire why, does getting stoned remove intrinsic speed? 13:18 yes 13:19 also it decreases Luck 13:19 so indirectly 13:19 @ your death 13:19 yea 13:19 tbh if you get in melee range with medusa you're probably going to die anyway 13:22 oh giants can't fall down trap doors accidentally that's awesome 13:22 I will no longer be falling down to below minetown on accident :) 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:646 (0:03:54) 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1589 (0:07:06) 13:27 nah I've survived melee range Medusa fairly often 13:28 just annoying as tits 13:28 bleah may as well finish quest 13:28 if nothing else I max luck and hopefully walk out with the ring 13:28 then I don't have to cope on poly control 13:28 we had a fire at work earlier (during lunch) 13:28 had to evacuate 13:28 ! 13:28 electrical fire in an air intake duct 13:29 small though, fire dept handled it before it got bad 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3348 (0:53:17) 13:29 i was like 'noooooo where's the big fire' 13:29 hahahahahah 13:29 fires have an obligation in my mind to be big and when they aren't I get sad 13:30 then I think about it a little more and realize maybe small inconsequential fires aren't so bad 13:30 heh 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered his faithful cave spider, on T:3580 (0:55:04) 13:31 :( 13:31 rip cave spider 13:31 nice, I'm having a rapport with Janis 13:31 honestly I say cope but poly control lets me do a lot 13:32 it's simply just not MR 13:33 who is janis 13:33 maybe logs have the answer 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4255 (0:57:54) 13:36 oh my god large splint mail is 500 aum??? 13:37 dumping that RIGHT in the trash 13:37 hey, Loggers; congrats on your ascension yesterday! 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a wood nymph corpse on an altar of Susanowo, on T:3285 (0:17:09) 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Law) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:3285 (0:17:09) 13:39 thanks terrapin! 13:40 oh yeah gg 13:40 also it appears you are to be dumped in the trash instead 13:40 come on chaotic samurai is like the best samurai 13:41 Large splint is unironically worth it for giant Sams if you make it out of mithril or such 13:41 oh you can make it? 13:41 that's nice 13:41 Yeah just forge two sets of splint 13:41 ah makes sense 13:41 or, sike 13:41 speaking of forging will the game please give me a hammer? 13:41 two sets of plate 13:41 heh 13:42 I'll leave that as a problem for mid game loggers 13:42 Umbire: wait theres giant now?! 13:42 ...? 13:42 no 13:43 it's just giant splint 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 mithril tsurugi of shock", on T:4059 (0:26:37) 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Rat King, on T:6903 (1:22:17) 13:58 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 13:58 SON OF A BITCH 13:58 cunt with a wand of death got my ant 13:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:59 sonofabitch 13:59 tengu corpse gave me teleportitis 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Sam Gia Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:7015 (0:40:46) 14:06 lol I'm gonna die to aphrodite's horde 14:06 she's been especially annoying lately 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7608 (1:31:34) 14:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:09 -!- chao is now known as stenno 14:11 My any bro 14:11 fuckass ogres took my fucking ant 14:11 ;A; 14:12 :( 14:12 BOUDICAAAAAAAAAAAAA 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1786 (0:08:34) 14:20 and this game finally gives me a magic whistle 14:20 I'm soooooooooooooooo mad 14:20 ;O; 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Loki, on T:2699 (0:11:56) 14:21 haha nice 14:24 Umbire... such a potty mouth 14:24 heh 14:24 so much anger 14:24 lol 14:24 you're going to scar qt for life 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3410 (0:15:32) 14:29 hm that's weird 14:29 why is this mummy's wrapping ID'd as fireproof 14:29 becuase its fireproof 14:29 well yeah :P 14:29 there's small chance objects can spawn as fooproof or eroded 14:30 but doesn't that not automaticallly ID? 14:30 no 14:30 no yes or no no 14:30 maybe 14:31 I guess it could have stepped onto the magic trap while I was blind and deafened and got the fire trap effect? 14:31 but that wouldn't id it since I was blind 14:31 whatever it was an act of god 14:32 !lastgame gutso 14:32 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Gutso/evilhack/dumplog/1679064933.evil.html 14:32 oh wow what a great bones 14:32 you wont automagically know an objects fixed status 14:32 eroded yeah 14:32 that is strange then 14:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:33 well erosion, you can see it 14:34 yeah but it's just weird that it's ID'd as fireproof when nothing happened to do it 14:34 maybe you saw the mummy step onto a fire trap 14:34 and you forgot 14:34 does that ID things as fireproof actually? idk 14:34 no, it couldn't have happened 14:34 I'll give context 14:35 hey Loggers_VIII congrats! 14:35 I walked onto magic trap, blind deafened and monsters. I can't see anything on telepathy so I back away a couple steps and shift-f,  killing 'it'. I then walk onto the square where I killed it, and there's a fireproof mummy wrapping 14:36 thanks mobileuser! 14:36 was a fun one 14:36 hackem next? ;-) 14:36 yes :) 14:36 \o/ 14:36 once this illithid priest dies it's straight to hackem monk I think 14:37 idk then Loggers_VIII that is interesting 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) destroyed Gutso's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:4221 (0:21:57) 14:38 qt i got a couple crash bugs i could use some help with when you have time 14:38 oh give them to me 14:39 first one is 370-hdf, cant report it to devteam because its not devteam code 14:39 https://termbin.com/u2d8 14:39 ^ unreported crash, just happen to notice 14:40 I think what's happening, player starts a game, is midway through selecting race/roll and quits? 14:40 not sure 14:40 oh, that might make sense, did you try to reproduce it by doing that? 14:40 not yet 14:41 one sec will try 14:41 Loggers_VIII in hackem you will often see stuff like "fireproof" pre-identified 14:41 work today has been more like a monday hah 14:41 honestly sounds like it might be a bug that those items are preidentified 14:41 i think 'fixed' objects can be pre-id'ed, but not in every case 14:41 yeah 14:42 i dont recall 'fixed' being pre-id'ed unless its an artifact gift or some such 14:42 I just found some fireproof gauntlets of protection from gutso's bones and those weren't pre-ID'd, so yeah something weird's goin on 14:43 Loggers_VIII did you read a blessed scroll of magic detection on that level? 14:43 no 14:43 ok 14:43 that shouldnt matter, just trying to narrow it down 14:43 are shields of reflection non magical or is that just an unnethack thing? 14:44 wondering because I've got a wish from a magic lamp 14:44 its an unnethack thing 14:44 did evilhack implement the unnethack thing where you can't wish for certain items from a magic lamp? 14:44 no 14:44 thank goodness no 14:44 so it shouldn't matter for your magic lamp wish then, right? 14:45 correct 14:45 it matters for oprops 14:45 oh 14:45 yeah, cant add oprop to an already magical object 14:45 tempted to go for GoP 14:45 qt i cant seem to reproduce the 370-hdf crash 14:46 let us consult the ttyrec 14:46 I think you must be right about your theory 14:46 it's gotta be something along those lines surely 14:46 one sec 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 mithril gauntlets of power", on T:4403 (0:29:27) 14:46 did you try to reproduce it using curses specifically? 14:47 Alright, time to get cute 14:48 get parahax'd dickhead 14:48 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:60594 (1 day, 21:36:32) 14:48 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:60595 (1 day, 21:36:37) 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had a blessed copper aklys entrusted to him by Loki, on T:4946 (0:32:30) 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 813 points, T:2101, killed by a flint stone 14:58 qt yeah 14:58 lemme look up the ttyrec for this player and get more context 14:58 time was yesterday 21:18:19 EDT 14:59 do you know if there's a reason the whereis file needs to have all this info even when there's no ongoing game? as opposed to just deleting the file when delete_whereis() is called? 15:00 i guess some other process could be trying to read from the file at the same time it's deleted? 15:02 looking at Beholder to see how it uses those files, there must be a better way to do that than listing individually every version 15:02 it looks like it already uses globs to find matching files so maybe you can replace the [FILEROOT+"nh370.16-hdf/var/whereis/", FILEROOT+"nh370.17-hdf/var/whereis/", FILEROOT+"nh370.18-hdf/var/whereis/", ...etc ] with [FILEROOT+"nh370.*-hdf/var/whereis/"] ? 15:03 not really that relevant just those lists must be really annoying to maintain 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Loki, on T:9639 (0:47:32) 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law), 501 points, T:1678, killed by an enormous rat 15:05 yes they are 15:06 sorry for the delay, had a phone call 15:06 HR trying to suck me into a meeting (I said no) 15:06 i'm allergic to meetings 15:06 yesss got sickness res from crowning 15:06 yay 15:06 pog 15:07 found the ttyrec with the crash 15:07 https://www.hardfought.org/nh/nethack/trd-us/?file=https://hdf-us.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/h/haldisse/nethack/ttyrec/2023-03-17.01:18:10.ttyrec.gz 15:08 just like you expected 15:08 but it didn't happen when you did it? 15:08 no it didnt, however i picked one menu item first 15:08 in this case they didnt, lemme try that 15:09 hmm nope 15:09 can you look at the whereis file it generated and see if it looks weird? 15:09 yeah 15:10 i'm wondering if it's just something like, those variables aren't initialized yet, so when it tries to use them sometimes it'll be OK, sometimes they'll have some wacky value that screws things up 15:10 Loggers_VIII: I wasn't so lucky but I have the Ring (for now) 15:10 player=wizard:depth=-1:dnum=0:dname=:hp=1:maxhp=0:turns=1:score=9223372036854775807:role=Xxx:race=Xxx:gender=Mal:align=N 15:10 eu:conduct=0x0:amulet=0:ascended=1:playing=0 15:10 role=Xxx 15:10 same for race 15:10 score is whack 15:10 umbire barbs are so lucky to get the ring and not the heart of ahriman, that thing was awful 15:11 interesting that it has gender=Mal, since it seems like that may have been the problem in the recorded crash 15:11 since what seems to be the in-progress string in the traceback ends with gender= 15:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) wished for "marker", on T:58550 (1 day, 12:40:50) 15:12 it gets that from genders[flags.female] so it's trying to index an array, as opposed to urole and urace which are const char * themselves 15:12 qt you notice something else? 15:12 what? 15:12 Shall I pick a male character's race, role and alignment for you? [ynaq] 15:12 oh hmm 15:12 so maybe that's in the rcfile 15:13 yup that's it 15:14 still cant reproduce on my end 15:14 how do you know that's the problem then? 15:14 no, i'm saying having OPTIONS=gender:male makes that question appear 15:14 oh 15:14 yeah 15:14 i get it now 15:14 'shall I pick a male etc etc' 15:15 sorry 15:15 it seems like flags.female isn't set by then anyway 15:16 only flags.initgend 15:16 lemme see if its a file permissions issue 15:16 i have some ideas for ways to avoid this but hard to test them without being able to reproduce it 15:17 no I don't think it can be, it happened in sprintf while compiling the string, not when writing to the file 15:17 ok 15:17 and if it were a perms thing, it would affect everyone, not just one player 15:18 hrm 15:18 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:61374 (1 day, 22:06:42) 15:18 i wanted to do something like this https://termbin.com/n6e8 15:18 🥳 15:19 where it just cuts it down to "player=so-and-so:playing=0" if the player quits before even starting the game 15:19 What now tho 15:19 nice one Umbire 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11668 (1:02:45) 15:20 qt nice 15:20 ugh one sec, HR again 15:20 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20 There's no Ludios so I literally have no choice but to dive deeper still it seems 15:20 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:20 It occurs to me, though 15:20 I have a couple of death wands, so I could spare ONE charge on Medusa 15:21 K2 but I am not sure, there is maybe a potential race condition with Beholder 15:21 I just hope the map is conducive enough for me that I don't have to like 15:21 use up my sole potion of levitation 15:22 Beholder basically says "if there's a currently active ttyrec file and a whereis file for this player, I am guaranteed to be able to read all these fields from the whereis file" without any handling of "what if those files exist, but the whereis file is missing some fields" 15:23 actually i guess the whereis file probably still says "playing=0" from the last time the player quit, if they quit again during character creation 15:24 so maybe the solution is to just add early return/do nothing to write_whereis() if !gp.program_state.something_worth_saving 15:24 because that would just mean, hey, the file is still from the last time you died, you haven't even done anything yet, just leave it alone 15:24 that might make the most sense rather than the diff I just posted 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:13421 (1:13:13) 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had a blessed flail entrusted to him by Loki, on T:14596 (1:16:06) 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5628 points, T:4729, quit 15:38 Another run dead to sickness. Sadge 15:39 F 15:43 https://termbin.com/pbzl forgot to post this link earlier but I meant something like this (this still has the "break the string creation into chunks so the format string isn't 500 characters long" part just because it was in the other diff but that's obviously not strictly necessary) 15:43 though that probably needs further investigation to check whether something_worth_saving is still set during the normal end of the game when the file is typically cleared out 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1457 (0:10:19) 15:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1708 (0:12:44) 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4074 (0:48:19) 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:4139 (0:50:29) 15:57 qt thanks 15:57 leave me alone HR 15:58 I filled out your evil forms 15:58 leave me be 15:58 xD 15:59 qt i'll commit that, we'll see how it goes 15:59 s/commit/test and then commit 16:01 qt this is the other crash log - https://termbin.com/fnyi - Loggers_VIII ascension yesterday, he was part way through astral when it happened. luckily autorecover saved the day and he was able to finish/ascend 16:02 ^ evilhack 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law), 7125 points, T:4807, killed by a wolf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:05 brb... uuuugh 16:06 K2 the best way to test it is going to be dying, saving, and quitting normally with it applied and confirm that the file is changed to say playing=0 for all those cases 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law), 441 points, T:808, killed by a steel dart 16:12 @e?nalzok 16:12 Nalzok (&) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical, 0d0 cast spell, 2d6 claw amulet steal | Align: -127 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 16:13 is that glyph wrong or am I colorblind 16:13 @e?balro 16:13 balro ~1~ balrog (&) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical | Align: -14 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, infravis, silverhate 16:13 colorblind! 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:19855 (1:55:47) 16:16 "The gnome king wields a magical steel long sword named vorpal blade!" 16:16 Oh no 16:17 what are you illithid wizard? 16:17 Yep 16:17 mind blast his ass! 16:17 Gonna try psycic blasting him to death 16:18 His last act of service was identify another wand for me. Most helpful gnome, would fight again 16:19 if you forge glamdring you can unlock long sword skill and use vorpal 16:19 What's the other artifact glamdring requires? 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20126 (1:59:34) 16:20 it's sting+orcrist 16:20 when wizards forge it it unrestricts long sword skill 16:20 Oh that shouldn't be too hard 16:21 But petless+most elves being peaceful is a problem 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) refused to give up The Mitre of Holiness to the Arch Priest, on T:20240 (2:01:09) 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law), 2628 points, T:2632, quit 16:22 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4862 (0:32:19) 16:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Arch Priest, on T:20357 (2:04:22) 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:59907 (1 day, 13:43:45) 16:26 "Please, Loggers, return the Mitre of Holiness to us now" ehhhh no 16:26 Lel 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4787 points, T:5577, killed by a sewer rat 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law), 996 points, T:1600, killed by a gnome lady 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Law), 86 points, T:457, killed by a large mimic 16:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 223 points, T:1313, killed by a fox 16:36 qt ok 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 440 points, T:1430, killed by a goblin 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 2679 points, T:2294, quit 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:11849 (5:07:50) 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 288 points, T:641, killed by a gnomish wizard 16:56 K2 I am not sure what the story is with that evilhack crash 16:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:60360 (1 day, 14:12:35) 16:56 however I did notice while trying to reproduce it that separate_steed_and_rider in cases where neither has died seems broken 16:57 hrm 16:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5865 points, T:6437, killed by an ettin zombie 16:58 it seems like one of them gets placed, and the other one remains in limbo not on the map 16:58 what did Vecna drop Graznop? 16:58 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:58 if you make some riders and zap polymorph at them you'll see 16:58 some riding monsters I mean 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Branyolo (Con Ith Mal Cha), 20 points, T:257, killed by a fox, while dragging an iron ball 16:58 i thought i had fixed that function. ugh 16:58 the hand 16:59 new toy :) 16:59 something like this https://termbin.com/5h3u seems like it might fix it 16:59 worth using, yes? 16:59 Graznop yes 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 1478 points, T:1567, quit 17:00 qt thanks 17:06 no problem 17:06 probably worth testing it some more though :) 17:07 yeah 17:07 this doesnt fix the original problem though... or maybe it does? 17:07 need to ask loggers what was going on there 17:07 no I don't think it's related to the original problem 17:07 I watched the ttyrec, no clue what happened 17:07 hmm 17:08 he attacked a soldier ant with the disintegration sword 17:08 and then it crashed 17:08 https://hdf-us.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/L/Loggers/evilhack/ttyrec/2023-03-17.00:08:19.ttyrec.gz this is the ttyrec 17:10 thanks, i'll look at it and see if i can notice something. i think its from a monster purposely attacking another monster at range 17:10 Graznop nice, the Hand is very good! 17:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:11 just reading up now... 17:11 I think the line numbers are wrong for the commit I am looking at 17:11 they don't seem to match up 17:12 so I can't tell what specific line it's looking at in mm_aggression 17:12 ooh graznop the hand is amazing, lucky you 17:12 look in the 0.8.1 branch 17:12 I see it's a60d23161fcc6498bb1c2f23a3afe2c88e0e1b02 17:13 gonna be slightly harder to kit up, but a quality problem to have! 17:13 master has had a lot of commits vs 0.8.1 17:13 yes you usually have to do a little finagling to get your build adjusted for it but it's very worth it 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:20404 (2:05:11) 17:16 now what lol... brb 17:16 today has been nuts 17:21 yeah the actual line I was curious about doesn't seem to have changed between that commit and current HEAD 17:21 mon.c:2690 17:23 still just '|| (md->msound == MS_SELL || md->msound == MS_PRIEST)' 17:23 quite odd 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 82 points, T:187, killed by a water moccasin 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5207 (0:29:02) 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scales", on T:21423 (2:15:41) 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:938 (0:11:11) 17:39 I think maybe 'mdef->data' was not a valid pointer 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 945 points, T:948, killed by a piranha 17:39 because if you look at the function, that md->msound == MS_SELL was the first place that md was dereferenced (others wouldn't have gone through on Astral because of lazy evaluation unless the attacker was a priest) 17:40 but I am not sure why that would have happened, you'd probably need to be able to reproduce it in rr to get a good handle on it 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 60 points, T:187, killed by a goblin 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6595 (0:44:11) 17:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed The Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:61527 (1 day, 14:53:35) 17:55 cool - celestial dragon stuff lets you fly 17:55 yep 17:56 it's not bad but it's not great either 17:56 I like the implications of player monster wearing celestial-scaled armor, though 17:57 like this guy went to purgatory killed a celestial dragon made armor from its scales and came back to hang around the dungeon 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc shaman, on T:8340 (1:06:26) 18:06 maybe they wished for the scales Loggers_VIII 18:07 ah that makes more sense 18:07 less funny though 18:07 heh 18:08 oh, would be interesting if monsters could read cursed genocide for monster creation 18:08 ^ YANI 18:09 please no 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8675 (1:09:29) 18:09 "the gnome lord summons antimatter vortices!" 18:10 haha 18:10 yes finally ID'd enchant weapon 18:14 when forging things, is it possible for an object property to be created from nothing? 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] LoggersSnail (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28146 (2:48:16) 18:17 yes 18:17 no wait no 18:18 not from nothing 18:19 if not I can't explain how some of my shuriken are fire and shock... 18:19 actually...the intent is clearly not to allow it, but I think the code might be bugged with oprops |= 0L instead of oprops &= 0L 18:20 I also have some shuriken that won't stack, even though they ID as identical 18:21 terrapin: thx, that would explain it 18:21 could it be fooproof differences? 18:22 spell of ID would show that though? 18:22 yeah. didn't know how fully ID'd they were 18:22 I remember dbanethacker had this same experience making shuriken as well, it might be a bug like terrapins says 18:22 *terrapin 18:24 ugh I got the bad castle and the soldiers mulched my wishes 18:24 I seriously have no idea why that is a thing 18:25 all it does is make it so one of the castles is objectively worse than the other ones, and it's not like you can really prevent it from happening so it's not interesting in any capacity 18:26 plus now I have to go hope RNGesus bestows me with scrolls of charging, otherwise known as one of the rarest scrolls in the game 18:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:13536 (1:58:28) 19:00 I'm putting my zorkmids on celestial dragons being related to the Loggers astral crash 19:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16215 (2:22:45) 19:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:18185 (2:41:24) 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20617 (3:12:35) 20:14 qt thanks 20:14 had to leave the house 20:15 food time 20:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 20:25 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37 bleah, playermon caster sneaks me just as I'm stoning zombies 20:37 you can get stoned too you fuckin' prick 20:38 Cyr the invisible Enchanter screams in fear! Cyr the invisible Enchanter turns to flee. 20:38 hah, hobbit mage with a SD ring 20:38 someone was in for the long haul 20:39 well, until they fucked with me anyway 20:45 oh hey helm of speed 20:45 no longer have Medusa problems Like That 20:45 though I'm still committed to the death wand charge 20:50 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 149815 points, T:24220, killed by Annam 20:52 F 21:08 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:62162 (2 days, 1:01:23) 21:08 Wasted four monsters in one zap 21:09 ...I just realized 21:09 that hobbit I killed didn't have a tinning kit 21:09 what a jerk, didn't anyone teach them to think of others 21:10 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 53115 points, T:12430, killed by an invisible energy vortex 21:30 aw :c 21:39 -!- Gutso has joined #evilhack 21:40 terrapin good catch 21:41 Hey guys question re rats kind mines end. There is a room that seems to be completely sealed, on the left side of the map. how do i get inside? is it reachable by teleport only perhaps? 21:41 yup 21:42 figures. Infidels have teleport blocked by amu. Is it only by random tele or s there a surefire way to tele inside? 21:43 there are two teleport traps on that level 21:43 if you have tele control, its easy, otherwise you can step over them and hope to get lcuky 21:43 *lucky 21:43 gotcha. Thanks K! 21:43 o/ 21:43 (Tony Stark voice) a giant centipede has made off with 1/3 of my HP 21:47 also first dragon kill this game, no scales 21:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1635 (0:27:04) 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8291 (1:47:20) 21:54 terrapin you around? 21:55 this should fix the new forged object having an oprop when it shouldnt issue - https://termbin.com/2fwd 21:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 917 points, T:1425, killed by the Goblin King, while praying 21:58 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0f1a54f3c2f7...315789271328 21:59 [EvilHack] k21971 425ac16 - Fix: corrections to separate_steed_and_rider() function. 21:59 [EvilHack] k21971 3157892 - Fix: forged objects having an object property when they shouldn't. 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 27648 points, T:9723, killed by a soldier ant 22:06 lol dragonhide studded armor 22:16 !tell qt the whereis fix, saving the game, playing=0 in the .whereis file. dying or quitting, playing=1 still. that may be moot, as dgl will unlink the .whereis file upon leaving the game for whatever reason. during player creation, .whereis isn't generated now (doesn't appear until you actual enter the dungeon), so good thing there 22:16 Will do, K2! 22:16 -!- Gutso has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:23 !lastgame willisllama 22:23 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/willisllama/evilhack/dumplog/1679086800.evil.html 22:23 oh that's the name of the new caveman nemesis 22:25 shoulda just made it a player monster with chromatic scales named Tiaman 22:25 @e?annam 22:25 Annam (H) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison acid petrification | Confer: fire cold sleep shock poison | MR: 30 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d8 claw amulet steal, 4d8 claw knockback, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -14 | carnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 22:25 @e?titan 22:25 titan (H) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -3 | Atk: 2d8 weapon knockback, 0d0 cast spell | Align: 9 | omnivore, flies, infravis 22:29 Giant feels more thematically apropos tbh 22:30 yeah 22:31 hm where was I in this priest game 22:31 oh yeeahhh 22:32 my wishes got wasted by the goddamn soldiers again >:((( 22:33 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 22:33 Found light is so much more powerful in Evilhack than vanilla. Even spell/scroll/wand of light 22:35 it's very nice 22:35 blinding can really save your ass 22:36 The information is valuable too. Since monsters are more threatening, zombies respawn, etc. 22:37 for certain 22:37 the monster lookup in game and out has been my savior many times over 22:37 Do titans take extra damage from Giantslayer, I forget 22:37 umbire they should 22:37 because there is in fact one on my screen 22:38 I think titans are considered giants but let me check real quick 22:39 ok actually I do not think they are not considered giants 22:39 at least in vanilla 22:39 oh well I just pulled out this artifact and possibly enraged a local fire giant for nothing 22:39 if so 22:39 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 22:40 yeah unfortunately they are not considered giants 22:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3558 (0:48:47) 22:44 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 22:46 went straight to hell 22:46 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 401563 points, T:63551, killed by an invisible titan, while moving through the air 22:47 I'm tempted to blame taking that advice but ultimately there's a few ways that could've gone better 22:47 that last nasties summon screwed me either way 22:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:50 Fml this unicorn is trolling me so hard 22:50 Prob gonna die to starvation chasing after it 22:57 Holy fuck finally. No more sickness woes 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5738 (0:40:43) 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6211 (0:46:57) 23:15 ...okay sure 23:15 Give me Dragonbane off a fucking lichen 23:16 That was a lichen with big dreams 23:16 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:6918 (0:54:43) 23:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:8508 (1:32:12) 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7977 (1:07:21) 23:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]