00:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2320 points, T:2144, killed by a gnome king 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Hob Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3329 (0:39:55) 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Hob Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a magic missile), on T:3395 (0:41:51) 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3776 (0:49:01) 00:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4509 points, T:3885, killed by a tengu 00:57 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4563 (1:11:00) 01:06 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:27114 (12:00:35) 01:06 That was easy 01:06 Now for the rest of the floor 01:08 lol random luckstone dro 01:08 *drop 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 5065 points, T:3459, killed by a gold golem 01:35 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to him by Set, on T:28143 (12:29:49) 01:35 :V 01:36 lol actually 1 point better than the last one 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1488 (0:18:22) 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1798 (0:24:09) 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) made his first wish - "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:1862 (0:29:00) 02:02 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2624 (0:44:25) 02:12 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) polymorphed his first object, on T:4002 (0:53:10) 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering a giant priest corpse on an altar of Venus, on T:4236 (0:56:11) 02:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:26 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 5698 points, T:4482, killed by a crossbow bolt 02:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of steel gauntlets entrusted to her by Odin, on T:51981 (20:01:35) 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4902 (1:07:28) 02:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of cloth high boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5309 (1:10:43) 02:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3241 (0:52:08) 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of copper gauntlets entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:7553 (1:50:16) 03:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) performed his first genocide (infidels), on T:4395 (1:01:03) 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6129 points, T:4395, killed by genocidal confusion 03:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:8035 (2:01:39) 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1053 (0:06:47) 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 1938 points, T:1964, killed by an iguana 03:46 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:748 (0:05:46) 03:51 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:01 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 04:02 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:19 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 4674 points, T:3656, killed by a copper elven arrow 04:31 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1305 (0:07:58) 04:40 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 1996 points, T:3304, quit 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 334 points, T:678, killed by a small mimic 04:47 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 224 points, T:71, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a potion 04:55 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 860 points, T:1456, killed by a sling bullet 05:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:3645 (0:25:15) 05:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3650 (0:25:23) 05:27 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:4661 (0:30:53) 05:28 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 05:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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13:00 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-au] UmberConductor [evil]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:28530 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 13:00 not gonna be relevant anytime soon but it still occurs 13:00 oh they can wear barding? 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 frost brand", on T:1321 (0:05:51) 13:01 this is going to make getting grayswandir a pain but I couldn't resist being frost brand buddies 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3550 (0:26:10) 13:03 Loggers_VIII: Don't know, hence my asking 13:04 barding's for steeds, centaurs can be ridden, ergo it sounds right 13:04 centaurs can wear regular armor 13:05 barding is animal shaped, not humanoid 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 2407 points, T:2279, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 13:05 game why :( 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:336 (0:01:17) 13:07 :o early ring of levitation 13:07 I forgive you game :) 13:11 K2: ty 13:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3616 (1:03:22) 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo", on T:3791 (0:08:02) 13:14 wow the game's just tossing wishes away today 13:14 all I wanted was to uncurse a BoH but thank you for that 13:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5305 (0:40:20) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:5350 (0:41:12) 13:28 grrr vampire mages 13:30 they're just misunderstood 13:30 a hug could go a long way 13:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5163 (1:21:38) 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 15036 points, T:6395, killed by a jaguar 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:14610 (4:03:45) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:15311 (4:10:55) 13:54 YANI: Polymorphing into a creature with a hug attack and hugging an enemy has a chance of making it peaceful 13:55 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2507 13:56 lol 13:56 :) 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 186 points, T:611, killed by Ms. Rhydaman; the shopkeeper 14:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8803 (1:58:18) 14:33 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 14:33 How do you stop zombies resurrecting? 14:34 dip in a forge, throw in lava, lock in a chest, put in a bag of holding, eat them if you can cure sickness afterwards, tin them 14:34 pretty much anything that works on a troll, except eating them if you can't cure sickness 14:34 Ah, so the troll treatment 14:35 I'm guessing dipping them in a forge will have a chance of it disappearing 14:35 I don't believe so 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:17760 (4:58:52) 14:36 Will try next time I'm in the vicinity of one 14:39 okay, it looks like dipping them could blow up the forge, but only with negative luck. otherwise the worst case is a lava demon getting summoned (1/240 chance) or 3d8 damage (1/30 chance) 14:42 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 14:43 Hi - I'm a giant valkyrie but I don't seem to have cold resistance?  Did something change? 14:44 nope 14:44 could be a gremlin attack, or someone cast vulnerability to cold on you 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1475 (0:22:41) 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1674 (0:24:46) 14:52 dipping into a forge will always destroy a corpse 14:53 hmm... even the riders corpses? 14:53 moot point as there are no forges on astral, but still... 14:54 it won't destroy riders 14:54 it checks obj_resists 14:55 YANI: It fuses the riders into some hideous boss monster 14:55 yeah figured 14:55 musing without looking at the code :) 14:57 "You dip Death's corpse into the forge and set it on fire. You have created the Ghost Rider." 14:57 xD 14:58 hah 15:02 Hmmm, perhaps a gremlin then.  Gotta eat my way back to cold immunity before taking on Katie, most likely. 15:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3841 (0:39:39) 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3926 (0:41:52) 15:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has left #evilhack 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:4065 (0:42:56) 15:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 18736 points, T:11727, killed by a soldier ant 15:13 Forges only disappear if you forge artifacts (or oprop weapons with 1/7? chance) using them 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful long worm, on T:1982 (0:58:58) 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 1212 points, T:2033, killed by a jackal 15:22 or if they explode (using with negative luck) 15:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 792 points, T:1501, killed by a giant mimic 15:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 85 points, T:177, killed by a falling rock 15:25 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering a goblin corpse on an altar of Grumbar, on T:3060 (0:20:27) 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4194 (0:10:10) 15:45 Yeah but you wouldn't use a forge with negative luck right 15:45 right? 15:45 >>;; 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:5568 (1:18:39) 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 2311 points, T:4685, killed by a bolt of fire 15:47 wow one shot 15:47 !lastgmae 15:47 !lastgame 15:47 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1678813559.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1678821822.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KRR/evilhack/dumplog/1678748365.evil.html 15:47 43 HP straight to dead :( 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 61 points, T:88, killed by a succubus 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 0 points, T:45, killed by a water demon 15:50 Fire horn, probably 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1090 (0:03:40) 15:55 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:57 umbire yeah 15:58 bugbear with fire horn 15:58 Cursed fire horns don't have any drawbacks, right? 15:58 That was probably from one of the traps 16:00 yes that bugbear usually has something silly 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 3146 points, T:3184, killed by a mountain dwarf 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 98 points, T:452, killed by a sewer rat 16:04 Seems to be a you problem 16:04 no snark 16:04 I've only had serious problems with them very occasionally 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una), 9706 points, T:6792, killed by the Rat King 16:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:42991 (1 day, 1:49:05) 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:43012 (1 day, 1:51:47) 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6804 points, T:8546, poisoned by an orcish arrow 16:36 two-weaponing +6 Sword of Annihilation and +6 Grayswandir versus +3 Sword of Kos against Vecna? 16:37 which is better? 16:46 Former I'd say 16:46 Depends on your skills in both cases though 16:48 if you already have giant strength, and can hit when two-weaponing, then the former? 16:48 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48 all my skills maxed but the whole thing is limited by being only basic in sabre. I thought the same, I had to fight with the Sword of Kos for a while as someone stole the SoA, and I was getting things in fewer hits with the two-weaponing 16:48 no giant strength 16:48 Kas does 3x(6.5[average base damage]+3[weapon enchantment]+6[assuming >=18/** strength]+0[assuming basic skill])=46.5 damage. SoA+grayswandir does 2x(4.5[base]+6[enchant]+6[strength]-1[basic skill])+4.5[base]+6[enchant]+5.5[disintegrate]+6[strength]-1[basic skill]=52 damage. Obviously yours skills may differ and accuracy isn't factored in. Also, SoA risks disintegrating the prize 16:49 hm, that last is a point 16:53 oh forgot material bonuses---that bumps Kas to 55.5 and SoA+Gray to 53. so basically the same 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:2703 (0:21:12) 16:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:56 ...but strength isn't tripled/doubled so Kas is down to 43.5 and SoA+Gray to 48 16:57 I'm a samurai with strength >18, expert in longsword and two-weaponing but only basic in sabre which limits everything iiuc 16:58 I'm skilled in 2sword 16:58 the disentegrating the prize angle is a factor too 17:03 each hand is considered separately, so you'll hit as an expert with SoA---only if you're unskilled in your primary weapon will your offhand skill also be capped. I think that brings it to Kas 44.5 and SoA+Gray 50? But that's getting into the weeds a bit, I think (I wouldn't have been so specific in the first place except I've been wanting to look into damage calcs anyway). 17:05 Yeah, the two-weapon looks to be stronger but you have to monitor Vecna's HP to make sure you don't kill him specifically with SoA 17:07 SoA disintegrates on 1/12 of hits regardless of HP---there's no way to avoid the chance of it proccing except not using it 17:08 Ah 17:08 Wasn't sure 17:08 So go for the DPS and take that chance or play it safe and kill slower? 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) genocided locusts, on T:107898 (1 day, 15:51:47) 17:11 its 1/10 proc in 0.8.1. i chaged it to 1/12 for next version 17:11 *changed 17:11 1/10 felt a bit too OP 17:12 i LOVE seeing these types of discussions. so many more options for solving 17:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:107981 (1 day, 15:54:45) 17:13 \o/ 17:14 haHA! 17:14 yay! 17:14 \o/ 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:5019 (0:41:12) 17:15 I used the Sword of Kas, no Eye tho, :sadface: 17:16 so you got the hand 17:16 the hand is epic 17:16 there wasn't anything left? 17:16 guaranteed the eye or the hand 17:16 did you detroy him over lava or something? 17:17 *destroy 17:17 no, I was on the upstairs and he was on land 17:17 -!- Graznop has quit [Killed (tantalum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:17 nothing at all 17:17 -!- Graznop_ has joined #evilhack 17:17 -!- Graznop_ is now known as Graznop 17:17 you sure you used the sword of kas? only way there'd be nothing at all is if he were disintegrated 17:18 yeah, although I had conflict so it's possible something else disintegrated him, but I don't think so 17:18 you wearing black dragon-scaled armor? 17:19 nope 17:19 grey scaled dragonhide 17:19 he would have dropped an artifact and the robe he was wearing 17:19 there's a rotted robe here 17:19 and a greased leather mummy wrapping 17:19 that's it 17:20 hmm 17:20 but I don't know that it was his, there were lots of other monsters around 17:21 the robe is definitely Vecna's 17:21 its gotta be somewhere 17:24 time to watch.... the ttyrec? 17:24 * K2 gasps 17:26 right now for eu/au servers, web ttyrec player wont work until they are archived 17:26 but, https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/evilhack/ttyrec/2023-03-14.21:03:12.ttyrec 17:27 oh gawd, ttyrec watching 17:28 no you dont understand 17:28 it has recently become very awesome 17:28 so I killed him with the sword of Kas, then I escaped upstairs to switch back to the other weapons and threw the sword of kas into the lava so no one else could have it 17:28 check this out - https://www.hardfought.org/nh/evil/trd-eu/?file=https://hdf-eu.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/e/elenmirie/evilhack/ttyrec/2023-03-14.13:08:49.ttyrec.gz 17:28 then back downstairs 17:29 oh, that's nice K2 17:29 move slider to the left to make it go more fasterly 17:32 how do I skip forward? 17:34 no "goto" button :-( 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21079 (6:24:41) 17:35 got any magic detection scrolls elenmirie? 17:36 yes 17:38 The robe is of drain resistance, other than that nuffin 17:38 a crystal chest I've yet to look into 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering a warg corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:7954 (1:04:48) 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una), 8198 points, T:7959, killed by an orc shaman called Aihaiaihai of Zaiuna 17:39 there are manual go forward/backward buttons 17:39 and a full rewind back to start button 17:40 elenmirie what version are you on? 17:40 No opening wands? 17:40 wait it'd have to be 0.8.1 if using forged artifacts 17:40 0.8.1-0 Beta 17:40 yeah 17:41 I just haven't got to it yet Umbire 17:41 the magic detection highlighted it 17:41 ah 17:41 There's also a ring in a sealed room I haven't got into yet 17:44 i think i know what happened 17:44 do tell! 17:45 there was a hill giant on the space where you killed vecna 17:45 i think it picked it up 17:45 whatever the artifact was 17:45 and then this 17:45 The deadly blade disintegrates the hill giant!--More-- 17:45 oh 17:45 well, shucks 17:45 :/ 17:47 I think I'll save and head off for my beauty sleep. It's another happy day in paradise tomorrow! 17:47 \o/ 17:47 it looks like you can only go forward 1 frame at a time? 17:47 manually yes 17:48 yeah, it was going to take forever 17:48 That should make it drop said artifact, no? 17:48 rewind if you click it fast enough it'll skip 50 frames 17:48 there must be a trick to it 17:48 Rather than delete it AND the inventory 17:48 use the speed slider 17:48 or had it put the Hand on somehow by then 17:48 Umbire no 17:48 Umbire, I think when the blade instakills it disintegrates whole inventory 17:48 when you disintegrate a monster (or if you're disintegraed), anything in open inventory gets nuked along with you/it 17:49 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:49 this is vanilla behavior 17:49 when it "partially disintegrates" then most inventory is preserved 17:49 partially disintegrates just means its taking extra damage 17:49 but if it flat out disintegrates everything is destroyed 17:50 when it says "the deadly blade disintegrates" that's the full monty 17:50 Unfortunate 17:50 yeah 17:50 dayam 17:50 with great power... 17:50 price you pay for having an OP weapon :) 17:50 jinx 17:50 BUY ME A COKE 17:50 heh 17:50 :P 17:51 BUY ME SOME COKE 17:52 intervention 17:52 wut, wut 17:52 hah 17:52 thanks for helping figure out what happened 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 126 points, T:257, killed by a water demon 17:56 no prob 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 327 points, T:906, killed by a hobbit pickpocket, while frozen by a potion 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Cen Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:758 (0:07:44) 18:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:25 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 18:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:70536 (1 day, 2:29:31) 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2999 (1:51:16) 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Bar Cen Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril oval amulet on an altar, on T:3483 (2:00:01) 19:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:71852 (1 day, 3:16:10) 19:42 Luck's topped off, happy with my artipulls 19:42 Legit what do I even wish for, though 19:42 ...I mean I don't even have to use it now 19:47 But I am impatient and near reasonable carry cap 19:47 ergo 19:48 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed dragonhide bag of holding", on T:30214 (17:29:18) 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Bar Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper helm of speed, on T:5462 (2:41:19) 19:58 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:58 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 20:06 What I need to do is consolidate my stash, then go for an MR source 20:13 it occurs to me that I lack a blinding item 20:16 ohi shambling horror with levitation and pit fiend attack 20:16 silly damage but not that threatening 20:18 Hi player monster that I can see from across the map 20:18 ooooh giant caveman 20:18 imma eat em 20:20 oilskin bag too, thoughtful 20:22 Hmmm, a queen ant is kicking my butt.  Are they a new monster? 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Cen Mal Una), 3859 points, T:2934, killed by a wand 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1263 (0:30:01) 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1387 points, T:1502, killed by an exploding wand 20:32 Been in evil a while 20:32 @e?queen ant 20:32 queen ant (a) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: -8 | Atk: 3d8 bite physical, 3d4 sting drain str | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, oviparous, poisonous 20:33 ...huh, had a mithril aklys of frost whole time 20:38 Have I been just minrolling every other Giantslayer hit 20:38 or can I just not become familiar with cross-aligned artis 20:40 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:32517 (18:20:53) 20:40 aw, I expected elves 20:40 Anyway that's in case I wanna be cheeky with the artis later 20:49 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:55 K2: Can players not become familiar with cross-aligned artifact weapons through repeat use? 20:55 Or am I just turbo unlucky 21:02 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:05 it takes time 21:06 It took a lot less time for Cleaver + Frost Brand 21:06 I've had this longer than the latter at least 21:06 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a0e258c9f655228bd6786d159bbac1d38d16fcc5 21:06 Erring on the side of turbo-unlucky then 21:07 so this thing's enchantment would have to be silly 21:07 but that doesn't track with what feels like a ton of low rolls 21:07 Incidentally I just blasted myself trying to apply it rather than my BoH which was one key away 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3027 (0:39:25) 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3326 (0:43:11) 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3364 (0:43:52) 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5918 (1:10:47) 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:6107 (1:15:36) 22:06 woop woop 22:06 lodesomone and potions courtesy of a tortle healer 22:13 Hmm, given some time and dilithium to ID I could turn this splint into crystal plate 22:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 22:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu), 348639 points, T:76914, petrified by a beholder 22:46 F 23:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:04 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7255 23:04 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:07 -!- Guest7255 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: [BBL]] 23:59 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]