00:01 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Kni Orc Fem Cha), 361 points, T:826, killed by the Goblin King 00:01 Still playing lackadaisical 00:03 why, you have an especially annoying yasd or something? 00:03 that always gets me playing shitty for a while 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:29012 (2:50:01) 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:29030 (2:50:41) 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29031 (2:50:45) 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29031 (2:51:00) 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3757 (0:54:31) 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Neu), 2499 points, T:3766, killed by a piranha 00:08 those damn piranhas 00:12 Loggers_X: BoH was stolen, was trying to work through it as supremely annoying as this was, and then a barrow wight happened along and decides "lol wand of lightning lol wand of lightning lol you lose cunt gg shake my hand". 00:13 heh 00:13 wands: those prime instruments of fuckery 00:14 if I had a nickel for every promising run I've lost to a wand I'd probably have a lot of nickels, but I've stopped counting 00:14 those are always the most annoying 00:14 It was more of the when than the why. 00:15 Bag had a wand of polymorph in it, for the record. 00:15 Was a tortle wiz, but it's the principle of the thing. 00:15 oof 00:16 tortles have it rough where wands are concerned, since monsters can often get two shots off on you at once 00:16 It wasn't both at once, but without my bag and low spell power it legitimately didn't matter. 00:17 yeah that is a fucked scenario all around 00:18 wands are the bane of balanced gameplay, and it's very hard to think of any way they could be improved tbh 00:18 even the wands balance patch is a bit silly 00:18 How do you figure? 00:19 Also my wand RNG hasn't been like, especially terrible as of late, or in general. 00:20 I wouldn't exactly call my wand rng terrible either, but if any game can be ended on a monster's whim with no chance for survival that's one game too many 00:20 but on the wands balance patch 00:21 it's a bit of a kludge, isn't it? I mean there's so much added to the game to fix one problem. Wand proficiency and such 00:23 imo the best change would just be to make wands need to be wielded or something before they are zapped, that way it introduces a little more strategy on the player's end as a pseudo-"nerf" to balance wands for the player, and you get at least one or two turns to react to a monster with a wand 00:23 Hm 00:23 I mean the entire code base is largely kludges 00:23 but I'm no developer, so take it with a shaker of salt :P 00:24 but I've never played a variant with wand balance so I've no idea what it's like in practice 00:25 well, kludges in gameplay and kludges in code are two different things, I think? Like for gameplay it's adding a bunch of systems or an item that serves only one purpose 00:26 very true 00:26 oh damn what is this archon doing here 00:27 stay tuned for my "killed by an archon" message, folks 00:27 ...where are you again? 00:28 castle 00:28 That you're seeing this Archon? 00:28 Oh then yeah, low odds but possible ig 00:28 well, I'm level 25 00:28 been fishing for wraiths 00:29 Interestingly found a second oilskin sack in ye olde Goblin King's domain 00:29 Loggers_X: And thus you encounter the dangers of doing so. 00:30 I suppose I do 00:30 normally I'll get a couple ki-rins but archons are spooky 00:31 mainly because I haven't nurse danced yet 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided orange dragons, on T:30732 (3:06:25) 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:30732 (3:06:28) 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:30733 (3:06:31) 00:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:36500 (13:13:59) 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:30737 (3:06:49) 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:30738 (3:06:58) 00:34 and three scrolls left over for Ls and alhoons 00:34 this is why I wish for markers 00:36 alright, before I subject myself to altar camp hell I will go subject myself to sandwich heaven 00:36 -!- Loggers_X has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:43 Hm, touchstone and a luckstone before Goblin King 00:44 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1355 (0:43:19) 00:44 Two boulders and a wand of lightning 00:45 Honestly I think some of it comes down to how quickly you scour other rooms, I tend to do that just to build a map of the floor and start amassing items 00:45 That can make the difference with early wand deaths, a lot of that is likely some humanoid finding it before you do 00:45 (in case you check logs later) 00:48 Also Gollum trapdoor in the same spot still. 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:7820 (1:32:45) 01:07 -!- Loggers_X has joined #evilhack 01:08 now that my sandwich does not exist corporeally as it once did, I have been banished from sandwich heaven and cast down as a fallen sandwich angel 01:08 and umbire I did indeed check logs! There have definitely been times where I could have explored a mines level fully and didn't, and got oneshot by a wand. Usually I'll explore the first four or so dungeon levels fully though, to try and find goblin town and mines 01:09 but every once in a while some sneaky kobold or goblin gets to a wand in the main dungeon before me and zaps away 01:09 Yeah 01:10 Incidentally I scroll ID'd reflection but I'm a giant Inf atm 01:11 ah 01:16 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2686 (1:15:30) 01:31 ...lmao 01:32 was wearing a ring of poly whole time and my first shape was a new giant 01:32 I'll gladly take the STR upgrade, fortunate roll overall 01:40 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 01:41 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Inf Gia Fem Una), 5924 points, T:4126, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 01:41 dicked around too much, exit got clooged 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:33888 (3:18:19) 01:42 haha yes 01:42 amazing first gift 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Sam Gia Mal Law), 4152 points, T:4260, poisoned by an orc zombie 01:51 instakill! 01:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:35993 (3:28:17) 01:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:36459 (3:34:04) 01:57 terrapin :( 02:04 whoa almost just died to kathryn 02:05 @e?ozzy 02:05 Ozzy (d) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold sleep petrification | Confer: cold | MR: 40 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 6d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical | Align: 0 | carnivore, nopoly 02:05 @e?bourbon 02:05 Bourbon (d) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 20 | Res: cold sleep petrification | Confer: cold | MR: 40 | Gen: unique | AC: 2 | Atk: 4d6 bite physical, 3d4 claw physical | Align: 0 | carnivore, nopoly 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 445 points, T:1057, killed by a Woodland-elf 02:13 @e?kathryn the ice queen 02:13 Kathryn the Ice Queen (@) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold sleep petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 3d4 weapon physical, 8d8 touch cold, 3d8 cast clerical, 3d8 cast spell | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly 02:13 ok, so... if her MR is 80, can I poly her? 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:37911 (3:56:44) 02:20 had to go with the "hide in the water" strat 02:20 I'm not proud of it, but I'm also alive 02:20 Again with Gollum 02:21 Also I feel like this is the same as the Master of Thieves. 02:21 ...a thought occurs, however. 02:21 she had a cloak of mr it was an exercise in futility 02:21 !tell K2 Kathryn's return to normal works through polymorph, right? 02:21 Will do, Umbire! 02:21 I mean if she has MR then there you go, but on the off chance... 02:22 I'm wondering if that doesn't mess with the change into her Enchantress form somehow. 02:22 hm 02:22 that could be interesting 02:28 It probably doesn't but it's worth asking about 02:31 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2403 (0:50:22) 02:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:39595 (4:08:44) 02:35 Hm, hammer in the chest 02:35 Gobby had a wand of striking 02:40 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2740 (0:59:00) 02:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:42795 (4:18:48) 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a dwarvish short sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:43771 (4:23:17) 02:55 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Ran Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3732 (1:14:08) 03:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:48794 (4:38:18) 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:49223 (4:40:40) 03:22 yusss 03:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:49376 (4:41:59) 03:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:50052 (4:48:24) 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:50727 (4:50:24) 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:51577 (4:52:44) 03:44 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:54365 (5:05:29) 03:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:54562 (5:06:47) 03:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:55298 (5:13:27) 03:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:37725 (13:49:40) 03:56 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:00 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #evilhack 04:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:57696 (5:20:20) 04:02 yes! 04:02 it's time for annihilation 04:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a cloak of protection entrusted to her by Odin, on T:38546 (13:56:32) 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:58159 (5:22:05) 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:58213 (5:22:54) 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:58317 (5:23:58) 04:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:59265 (5:29:32) 04:18 oh man SoA+vorpal is such a badass combo 04:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:40148 (14:21:16) 04:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:60422 (5:45:01) 04:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:60442 (5:45:18) 04:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 darts on an altar, on T:4335 (2:37:42) 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a scale mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:41436 (14:39:32) 04:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:62707 (6:15:02) 05:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:42279 (14:55:18) 05:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:65791 (6:24:06) 05:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:66660 (6:36:26) 05:21 haha yes only needed one !opara 05:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:66670 (6:36:59) 05:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:66805 (6:38:33) 05:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:66806 (6:38:36) 05:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:44233 (15:24:37) 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:67310 (6:44:01) 05:32 !lastgame graznop 05:32 Loggers_X: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/evilhack/dumplog/1678408141.evil.html 05:32 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 05:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:67676 (6:47:57) 05:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Lolth, on T:67955 (6:51:10) 05:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:68209 (6:54:38) 05:43 -!- Loggers_X has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:29 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby green dragon, on T:5174 (3:24:16) 06:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 17 bone shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5868 (3:30:22) 06:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6449 (3:34:05) 08:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:20 mornin' hackers (and I suppose you slashers as well) 08:20 hai 08:20 K2: Message from Umbire at 2023-03-13 02:21 EDT: Kathryn's return to normal works through polymorph, right? 08:22 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 08:29 I'm imagining an army of Loggers, Loggers_X has gone to sleep and Loggers_VIII takes over. 08:30 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:32 hahaha 08:33 I've cloned myself to achieve maximum efficiency in producing YASDs 08:40 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:41 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:01 if a gremlin steals a partial resistance, does it go all the way back to 0%? 09:01 hm tiamat is disint resistant 09:02 mobileuser I think so? I believe I heard someone say it did before 09:02 harsh :-) 09:02 @e?tiamat 09:02 Tiamat (D) | Lvl: 103 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification magic drain | Confer: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 6d6 breath random breath, 2d4 cast spell, 4d6 claw amulet steal, 6d6 bite physical, 6d6 bite physical, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, 09:02 @e?barbed devil 09:02 barbed devil (&) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 35 | Gen: gehennom | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 3d4 sting physical, 2d4 cast fire | Align: 8 | thick hide, poisonous, stalker, infravis, silverhate 09:02 tiamat combines all dragon resistances... 09:03 but still vulnerable to silver 09:03 so, can I death beam her or is she technically a major demon for res purposes? 09:03 demon 09:03 aww 09:03 I'm just going to try and behead her 09:03 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 09:05 hm this is a regular demon party 09:05 baphomet tiamat and baalzebub 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:70779 (7:21:44) 09:06 heh decapitated 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:70783 (7:21:54) 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:71109 (7:27:11) 09:12 hey nice I got the scales! 09:12 not that I can wear them... 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 2620202 points, T:71769, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander 09:23 hah 09:23 I should put that in my stop messages, shouldn't I? 09:26 !lastgame loggers 09:26 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1678655481.evil.html 09:29 yeah that is a hard death 09:29 meh I was lazy and got killed for it 09:30 It had to happen at least once before I felt motivated enough to edit my rcfile :P 09:37 -!- d[-_-]b is now known as stenno 09:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 09:47 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) killed the elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:108652 (1 day, 19:56:28) 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:108654 (1 day, 19:56:34) 09:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:48 lucifer fight! lucifer fight! lucifer fight! 09:51 was playing too tired last night, had to go back up and get a f-ing wand of striking and come back down 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 3156874 points, T:108734, killed by Lucifer (with the Amulet) 09:51 well that was quick 09:52 i didnt think he was gonna wake up 09:52 heh 09:52 2-shotted from 400 hp 09:53 no :( 09:55 !lastgame krm26 09:55 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1678370392.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 09:57 he always wakes up when you walk next to him I think 09:58 today is not a good day to be an evilhack player 09:58 he always wakes up when you walk next to him I think <--- yup 09:59 he's a force in melee, huh 09:59 gjallar is half physical damage, right? 09:59 that's some pretty impressive damage 10:02 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:04 @e?Lucifer 10:04 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 10:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:12 oh now I see he was only 50% fire resistant 10:13 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 10:14 ? 10:14 I mean good morning first off 10:14 But who was half-fire resistant? 10:15 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1678370392.evil.html 10:15 krm26 got lucifer'd 10:18 Right. 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 775 points, T:1071, killed by the Goblin King 10:22 ach 10:22 shoulda leveled to level 5 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 284 points, T:671, killed by a hobgoblin 10:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:43 hi 10:43 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 10:45 'lo 10:45 what's good umby? 10:46 i gotta try to ascend. i actually had a nethack dream last night. haven't been playing tho 10:46 girl i live with makes fun of me if i play though lol. i don't really care. It's not like i sit around playing playstation or something. i play ONE game! 11:24 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 11:24 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (lithium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:24 -!- chao is now known as stenno 11:36 Tamed a warg to avoid dying to werewolf, think I unironically keep them long term 11:36 oh look nabru died to a werewolf 11:37 If I had a nickel for every magic ray that bounced back at low-odds angles that could inconvenience me 11:41 ghost's dead, eating the knight corpse before figuring out what to do with the rest 11:41 Could unironically put the axe to use if it's not cursed 11:59 Also fuck single-digit dilapidated armories, always a fucking disenchanter in there 12:01 rebatela now you know what to tell the girl you live with. all the cool teens are desperate to play nethack! 12:01 lol 12:07 And Aphrodite on the floor after, couldn't be less welcome 12:08 yeah well at least you're probably on the stairs and didn't dig down with the cursed pick 12:09 i just search like crazy so i don't set off the sound traps and usually dig down. it's avoidable if you're careful a lot of times 12:11 i don't like when it comes before soko or soko is on the big room level etc. that's too much for early level character. i will often skip the nymph level until i can basically one shot them all 12:12 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 8157 points, T:8389, quit 12:12 My patience does not exist lately 12:12 Also exactly 0% percent of that applied to that run but the sentiment counts I supposed 12:12 -d 12:33 Well this Mines has evidence of bones on the first floor 12:33 Don't like that 12:39 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 12:40 Alright, what the actual fuck is up with the Gollum level. 12:40 !lastgame telegarn 12:40 dbanethacker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/telegarn/evilhack/dumplog/1678303551.evil.html 12:40 Literally the same spot consecutive games, every time I see it, what's the damage? 12:40 That's so weird. 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1104 (0:09:37) 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed telegarn's ghost, the former Magician, on T:8767 (2:47:39) 12:55 rng 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Law), 1632 points, T:2645, killed by a rabid dog 13:04 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 13:06 Some slightly wacked RNG, yeah. 13:16 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 bone orcish daggers on an altar, on T:3413 (1:03:53) 13:17 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3418 (1:04:20) 13:18 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:3501 (1:05:28) 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1666 (0:12:48) 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a nalfeshnee, on T:9537 (3:27:44) 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1287 (0:04:46) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 1961 points, T:2062, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:48 -!- Imanity96 has joined #evilhack 13:48 -!- Imanity96 has quit [Client Quit] 13:48 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 13:49 Which is the easiest race as a ranger or wizard? Thinking of starting as an Illithid wizard 14:00 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:6494 (1:47:48) 14:04 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12 illithid is not the easiet race starting out 14:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:12 but they can become quite powerful after just a few levels 14:13 I've read it's quite weak in melee 14:13 yup, max strength of 10 14:13 but as a caster, nothing else beats them 14:13 Guess no dagger storm this game xD 14:14 if you can find a pair of gauntlets of power, especially a set not made of metal, you're set 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 5730 points, T:5130, killed by a gold golem 14:15 Is that because of destroy armor? 14:15 no 14:15 its because of getting 25 str 14:16 I mean why is GoP made out of metal a downside? 14:16 metal armor adversely affects casting success rate 14:16 Oh yeah 14:17 Managed to offset that in my last vanilla game, but probably won't be as lucky polypiling 14:22 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:30 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6927 (2:17:04) 14:32 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck 14:32 What happened? 14:32 found a hardware store on DL2. 2 magic lamps, stethoscope, magic whistles etc but i screwed up and used a bag of tricks in the store and can't pay 14:33 trying to steal stuff with the dog but shopkeep keeps blocking the door 14:33 Sadge 14:33 been whistling him out and trying to bait back in with something expensive. probably going to starve trying 14:33 Could always take the chance and rub one of the lamps 14:34 no chance in killing the shopkeep i have 14 hp lol 14:34 yeah i thought about that 14:34 get a wish for 5000 gold 14:34 Or a wand of death for mr shopkeep 14:36 he does move if i step far away, but i'd have to get real lucky for dog to drop in the free space 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] talereba (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 86 points, T:810, killed by Mr. Aned; the shopkeeper 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:12809 (4:33:16) 14:40 can dl2 even leave bones? would have been pretty sweet for someone 14:40 also, what kind of hardware store owner wouldn't buy gloves? 14:40 a cheapskate like Mr. Aned, that's who 14:41 dlvl 4 or higher 14:41 no 1-3 bones 14:41 yeah sounds right 14:41 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bones#Creation 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1636 (0:20:53) 14:45 Where is the goblin king? I'm in his branch, but explored all areas until the glyph blocks me off 14:45 top right 14:46 are you in the Mines? 14:46 Yes 14:46 the goblin king is in a portal branch located on dungeon level 2 or 3 14:46 goblin king branch is a magic portal or dl 2 or 3 in the dungeon 14:46 Oh, from the dungeon of doom? 14:46 yeah main dungeon 14:47 Alright, guess will look around there 14:47 when you kill him it unlocks those stairs for rest of mines 14:47 The wiki mentioned other ways of accessing the rest of the mines. Does that include levelporting and digging using a pick axe? 14:48 to bypass the glyph 14:48 physically no you cant bypass 14:48 levelporting can 14:48 Ah 14:48 yeah i've hit traps and gotten to minetown. but then you can't go back if you go up 14:49 pickaxe is a no go 14:49 although there's a small bug that if you fall down a deep shaft you can wind up in minetown/mines end 14:49 supposed to stop you right before 14:49 i want to say that's happened to me as well, but i've gotten past and just not said anything lol (sorry) 14:49 xD 14:49 for the most part it works tho 14:50 ‘ 14:59 Mines bones is a Samurai 15:02 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:7434 (2:49:26) 15:02 Fine spot for a ghost to show up 15:02 Not again xd 15:02 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:7437 (2:49:43) 15:03 See if there's a bag in town 15:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4880 (1:16:12) 15:31 Ooh coaligned temple 15:31 I can see the illithid priest from here 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:828 (0:04:08) 15:36 LMAO HI GIANTSLAYER DROP 15:38 Searched everywhere on DL2+3 for the gnomish king portal but haven't been able to find it 15:38 Is there any indicator of where it is? I keep hearing sounds of a bustling town, but they're farily random 15:41 The sounds of a bustling town mean the portal is on that level 15:41 Will try being more thorough then 15:44 Finally found it 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 oilskin Fedora", on T:30816 (17:24:37) 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8006 points, T:9345, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:30818 (17:25:19) 15:51 oh no did they have a wand imanity ? 15:51 Yes xD 15:51 not a whole lot you can do about that 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide Hawaiian shirt of warning", on T:30820 (17:26:26) 15:52 Sadly seems so. Pet died from zombie disease too. Would've stood a chance with him 15:55 the enhanced web ttyrec playback is enabled for hdf 3.6/3.7 games now 15:56 gonna work my way through the more popular variants first and eventually get them all 15:56 what's enhanced about it K2? 15:56 it actually works for one 15:56 that's the big thing 15:56 wow. that does sound like a major enhancement 15:56 yes 15:57 paxed redid the javascript, got rid of depreciated code, it now renders curses mode and enhanced symbol set (3.7) correctly 15:57 load it now qt, evilhack or 3.6/3,7 15:57 speed slider now :) 15:58 if you need any help with enhancing other elements of hardfought, like, say spectating and sending mail, I get emails from experts on mail enhancement all the time 15:58 oh another significant change - instead of grabbing each frame from the server (massive amount of server requests) it downloads the entire file in one go, all the work is performed client side 15:58 ... LOL 15:59 it was requesting each frame separately? I didn't even know you could do that with a ttyrec file. interesting, that does sound like a good improvement 16:01 oh yeah 16:02 when i dropped the speed to 100ms per frame and had 6 going at once, tailing the apache access log was nuts 16:03 downloading the entire file in one go also allowed for a rewind function (paxed said it would be much more difficult to do if the file stayed on the server) 16:03 the latest improvements are live on NAO now too 16:06 sweet 16:10 i figure i'll get all the vanilla nethack versions, xnethack, hackem, gnollhack, splicehack done in the next couple days 16:11 once all variants are complete, i'll put the word out 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a copper large shield entrusted to her by Odin, on T:45170 (16:27:10) 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2400 (0:27:40) 16:23 Ha! Not too strong without your wand of lighning are you? 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2427 (0:29:59) 16:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3232 points, T:2459, killed by a giant bat 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 204 points, T:594, killed by a mithril dagger 16:37 oh yeah, tnnt and the old dev/null tribute tournament 16:37 i'll get those done tonight 16:42 hold on. there are web ttyrecs??!? 16:42 (and they work!?!?) 16:42 yes 16:42 dope man 16:42 check out evilhack (any servers) 16:42 !ttyrec 16:42 K2: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ttyrecs 16:43 i also have nethack 3.6/3.7 and nh343 done 16:43 thats awesome man 16:43 paxed did the majority of the work to fix the javascript 16:43 i'm rarely motivated enough to download and run the player, but i will be all over that 16:43 its live on nao too 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:13913 (5:19:21) 17:13 that is really cool K2 17:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22 Agreed, really neat! 17:23 On a side note - I gotta beat a lava demon..... 17:28 found a / of cold - 5 shots did it in ! 17:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:39 ewwwww no tool shop 17:39 I'm gonna cri 17:42 Big news though, katana from bones was uncursed 17:45 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:54 i forget what i was doing in this game... looks like i just killed orcus 17:55 i gotta get back to my stash. it's been like a month i think everyone is dead and it's wizard time 17:55 does lucifer have that acid spell? 17:55 that kathryn casts? 17:56 Oh holy shit 17:56 oh yeah this was the game with no magic whistle! I'm like why do i have 28 blessed eucalptus leaves!?? 17:56 Shopkeep actually got got by a zombie 17:57 it was more fun when they'd kill the racial shopkeepers lol 17:57 Well free key and protection money for me 17:57 oh i see it did kill him 17:57 nice! 17:57 i misread ya 17:58 shit is the best. used to happen a lot more but he "fixed" it lol 17:58 I mean it's honestly better fixed, makes for great zombie disposal 17:58 it could suck if it was the only general store but normally hell yeah protection money 17:58 This one was an outlier, didn't even spot any Z outside the temple at first 17:59 nice to know it can still happen 18:01 Now if I can find the nymph what stole from me 18:01 good thing I have sleep wand now 18:01 (or MM, one of those two) 18:01 what role umbire 18:02 !whereis UmberCondcutor 18:02 Umbire: UmberCondcutor is not playing. 18:02 lol 18:02 !whereis UmberConductor 18:02 Umbire: [hdf-au] UmberConductor [evil]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:7834 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 18:03 And got 'er 18:06 Gonna try the floor below for a bag, if not then back to main branch 18:16 qt, that PR you recently submitted to xnh, is evilhack also affected? 18:16 not sure, I didn't test it in EvilHack and can't check right now because I'm working, sorry 18:16 'Fix #103: dismounting steed over open air/chasm #106' 18:17 oh, that's ok, wasnt expecting you to drop everything and check heh :) 18:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:24 no we demand analysis NOW 18:27 hah 18:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 18:29 amateurhour isn't here so I feel the need to make comments like he would sometimes 18:30 approved 18:30 and then periodically spinkle on something like 'more big good for less sad' 18:35 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:35 As usual a bunch of potions get frozen right as I discover a bag 18:35 but it's holding so 18:41 Or, sike it's not holding 18:41 I just lost that many potions 18:41 Whatever 18:41 Have a magic lamp I can uncurse too 18:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:34024 (19:44:07) 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 24806 points, T:17172, killed by a leocrotta 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1571 (0:12:01) 18:51 K2 did you see yet if that issue affects evilhack? 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 848 points, T:1576, killed by a Green-elf 18:52 hmm it doesn't seem like that exact problem happens (with the wumpus falling into the chasm once it's dismounted) but I think there's a similar issue with landing_spot 18:53 when I dismount over a chasm, but next to solid ground, I end up in the chasm and I fall down and die 18:53 I suspect because evilhack only has the if (accessible()) check and not the && !(is_open_air... etc) part 18:54 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had a small shield entrusted to him by Set, on T:9476 (5:52:32) 18:55 I was going to say evilhack probably also needs the fix to relobj from that PR but actually it looks like amateurhour got you to add it already :-O 18:56 the same change as in that PR, 388722cd51 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 497 points, T:1530, killed by a sea tortle 19:01 yeah i hadnt checked yet 19:01 i'm about to be voluntold to do the dishes 19:01 this makes me sad 19:04 cheer up K2, a house full of clean dishes is more big good for less sad 19:04 \o/ 19:05 aosdicthour to the rescue 19:13 woop 19:13 https://www.hardfought.org/nh/tnnt/trd-au/?file=https://hdf-au.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/A/Arahael/tnnt/ttyrec/2022-11-29.09:45:14.ttyrec.gz 19:13 i have all of the vanilla nethacks done, tnnt and evilhack 19:13 gonna knock out devnull tribute real quick 19:14 the correct plural of nethack is nethax 19:18 :) 19:18 ok dishes time bleh 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1663 (0:16:47) 19:23 [hdf-au] [evil] KRR (Inf Hum Mal Una), 725 points, T:1540, killed by a hobgoblin 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2189 (0:20:07) 19:26 yay sold crystal mattock for over 1000zm 19:31 lmaoooooo that actually bought the shop out 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 7590 points, T:3881, killed by a mountain dwarf, while frozen by a potion 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 787 points, T:1146, killed by an enormous rat 20:09 meant I couldn't buy prot like I wanted, ala 20:09 alas* 20:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 98 points, T:367, withered away 20:17 saddle AND spiked barding, don't mind if I do 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1259 (0:13:48) 20:23 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:12075 (7:21:07) 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1859 points, T:1593, killed by a kobold lady 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 165 points, T:327, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a potion 20:31 silly me 20:35 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:35348 (21:06:53) 20:36 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to him by Set, on T:12842 (7:33:55) 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2163 (0:08:29) 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:2218 (0:08:50) 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed Gollum, on T:2253 (0:09:13) 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2114 points, T:2610, poisoned by an orcish arrow 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 950 points, T:2747, killed by the Goblin King 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1052 (0:04:35) 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:4589 (0:28:18) 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 1226 points, T:819, killed by a rothe 21:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:36046 (21:43:57) 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 7572 points, T:4831, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 957 points, T:807, killed by a giant mosquito 21:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) had a silver mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:36362 (22:02:50) 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2289 (0:20:02) 21:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:37096 (22:20:41) 21:50 Wew first Giantslayer giant kill 21:50 Oh dear he appears to have generated with a boulder 21:51 How unfortunate 21:51 I guess I'll have to dispose of this spare 21:51 right in this hole here... 21:52 Oh well so much for that, some dickhead Uruk had a wand of striking exactly 21:52 Fuck me for even thinking of it lmao 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9109 (1:19:24) 22:07 Two giant zombies in the zoo 22:07 Worst case they should mop up some of the worse hostiles in there 22:09 And moot point, someone else generated and started a fight in the zoo 22:12 there's an awful lot of explosions in there 22:13 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:17354 (9:11:15) 22:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 1341 points, T:1935, killed by the Goblin King 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] cloudburn (Cav Hum Fem Law), 2960 points, T:4361, killed by the Goblin King 22:17 Yep, almost all clear 22:17 Only had to kill a xan, tiger, black naga 22:18 bunch of manes 22:18 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19 Best to go with the amulet, last vital protections I really need 22:19 Can wish for a bag later if so inclined 22:20 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:17869 (9:17:40) 22:20 Hm, can make do 22:20 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2542 (0:07:29) 22:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 982 points, T:2600, killed by a piranha 22:26 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:18205 (9:23:59) 22:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Arc Trt Mal Neu), 893 points, T:1604, killed by the Goblin King 22:47 ...there's a vorpal jabberwock on my screen. 22:47 now it's a cat 22:53 2 straight giant eviscerations 23:18 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7921 (2:43:24) 23:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:29 Well my queen ant is terminall suicidal 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 10002 points, T:10821, killed by a gnomish wizard, while frozen by a potion 23:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of magic resistance, on T:8448 (3:04:32) 23:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 22437 points, T:8491, killed by an air elemental 23:48 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Set, on T:25032 (10:42:35) 23:48 Oh goddamnit, I need water like yesterday 23:49 So I can make improvised whistles and get my ant away from Izchak 23:55 mission accomplished, only cost two Minetown watchfolk 23:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2028 points, T:3258, killed by the Goblin King