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01:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:1189 (0:04:16)
01:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a copper large shield entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:3409 (0:10:49)
01:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3791 (0:11:59)
01:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3855 (0:12:13)
01:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3975 (0:12:38)
01:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4215 (0:13:10)
01:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4863 (0:16:27)
01:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:5185 (0:18:41)
01:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1021 (0:08:21)
01:58 <Loggers_X> haha yes I got orctown but with glamdring
01:58 <Loggers_X> tis time for a massacre, if I do say so myself
02:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 11477 points, T:6934, killed by a bolt of cold
02:01 <Loggers_X> oh fuck offf with that
02:01 <Loggers_X> since I'm a tortle he got two zaps of a wand of cold
02:01 <Loggers_X> early game wands are such shit
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02:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2287 (0:05:35)
02:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3016 (0:09:02)
02:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3299 (0:09:56)
02:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 3206 points, T:3532, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted mountain dwarf, while praying
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02:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a small shield entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:2848 (0:06:21)
02:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a large shield entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:4198 (0:09:56)
02:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a mithril shield of light entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:6449 (0:12:37)
02:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6706 (0:13:48)
02:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6746 (0:14:06)
02:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:6808 (0:14:26)
02:34 <Loggers_X> now that I have four different shields could I get a weapon maybe
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02:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:7282 (0:16:37)
02:35 <Loggers_X> heh oneshot with sting :)
02:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a stone small shield entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:7533 (0:17:40)
02:36 <Loggers_X> the gift quality is regressing
02:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a steel scimitar entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:8282 (0:19:00)
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02:38 <Loggers_X> now we're talking
02:38 <Umbire> ?
02:40 <Loggers_X> lady gifted me a decent weapon
02:41 <Umbire> Oh cool
02:42 <Umbire> Speaking of neutral weapons I have to overhaul the beheading page in particular atm
02:44 <Loggers_X> it's a bit barebones innit
02:45 <Loggers_X> have you seen the pages for the O monsters? those gave me a bit of a laugh, none of them have been edited in years
02:46 <Umbire> I know, I know, there's a lot to do
02:47 <Loggers_X> there's always more
02:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a short sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:10714 (0:28:31)
02:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11855 (0:32:24)
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02:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo: Deliverer of Blessings", on T:11994 (0:33:40)
03:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 11513 points, T:14282, poisoned by a bone orcish arrow
03:06 <Loggers_X> are you fucking kidding
03:06 <Loggers_X> that's the second time today >:(
03:07 <Umbire> yeah Orctown is kinda full of those
03:07 <Umbire> not worth the squeeze without resistance
03:07 <Loggers_X> I didn't get orctown! I was doing soko
03:07 <Loggers_X> some orcs just spawned and oneshot me with their arrows
03:08 <Loggers_X> good game design
03:11 <Umbire> Oh, unfortunate
03:11 <Umbire> it's why I try to amass as much res as I can soon as I can
03:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 106 points, T:414, killed by a sewer rat
03:12 <Loggers_X> I mean, I also try to get as much res as possible but sometimes it's just not possible
03:14 <Loggers_X> and goblin captains and uruk-hai spawn pretty early on so you'll often see them before you have 35% res, even if you try to get lots of res early on
03:14 <Loggers_X> either way it's silly and I'm going to go kill goblin king to go get revenge
03:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 0 points, T:77, killed by a water moccasin
03:16 <Loggers_X> whoa those sentences were kind of a mess why'd I repeat words so often
03:16 <Loggers_X> maybe I should go to bed
03:16 <Umbire> Mhm
03:16 <Umbire> @ the res thing
03:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a long sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:540 (0:02:02)
03:17 <Loggers_X> long sword of excellence!
03:18 <Loggers_X> excellent
03:19 <Umbire> haha
03:20 <Umbire> would that I got altars early/often enough to splurge for weapons on them
03:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo: This Run Is Doomed", on T:1695 (0:05:32)
03:21 <Loggers_X> early altars seem to be a theme of my runs, strangely
03:21 <Loggers_X> and tourists have the food to sustain a little camping
03:22 <Umbire> yeah
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03:24 <Umbire> ugh, zombies everywhere lately
03:24 <Umbire> no unihorn or tinning kit yet
03:25 <Loggers_X> aw :(
03:26 <Loggers_X> I would find evilhack's zombies at least somewhat tolerable if not for the resurrection mechanic
03:26 <Loggers_X> that's what pushes it over the edge for me lol
03:29 <Umbire> I mean even that's manageable if I can lock them in a box
03:29 <Umbire> but I'm in soko so
03:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3810 (0:13:26)
03:29 <Loggers_X> ah
03:29 <Loggers_X> zombies in soko are the worst
03:32 <Umbire> the first floor has a lava pool but I'm currently on 3
03:33 <Umbire> 4th floor is vanilla so I can clean this up easily
03:34 <Umbire> worst in there is a mumak, orcs and elves'll infight and some of the orcs are peaceful
03:35 <Loggers_X> !whereis umbire
03:35 <Hecubus> Loggers_X: umbire is not playing.
03:35 <Loggers_X> lol
03:35 <Loggers_X> what role are you?
03:35 <Umbire> !whereis UmberConductor
03:35 <Hecubus> Umbire: [hdf-au] UmberConductor [evil]: (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) T:15242 Sokoban level: 4
03:36 <Loggers_X> forgot that was your name
03:36 <Loggers_X> didn't know orcs could be wizards
03:37 <Umbire> Always could b
03:37 <Umbire> be*
03:37 <Umbire> Also I use that as a side acc of sorts mostly for Evil play
03:37 <Umbire> I tend to park games a lot
03:38 <Loggers_X> I used to do that a lot and I'm not sure why I stopped
03:38 <Loggers_X> I guess I started playing faster? idk
03:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:4632 (0:23:04)
03:40 <Loggers_X> dear god there's five smoky potions in one liquor store
03:41 <Loggers_X> this is why I can never stay mad at you, game
03:41 <Loggers_X> my luck always evens out
03:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:5567 (0:30:23)
03:47 <Loggers_X> come on game, hit me with the poison instadeath
03:47 <Loggers_X> you know you want to
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04:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11727 (0:53:41)
04:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11727 (0:53:44)
04:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11772 (0:54:00)
04:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:11930 (0:56:12)
04:18 <Loggers_X> @e?oracle
04:18 <Hecubus> Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis
04:19 <Loggers_X> noo my woolly mammoth killed itself on her :(
04:20 <Loggers_X> rip gichi-gaazhagens, you lived for like six minutes and were a huge hassle to feed
04:21 <Umbire> Yeah don't leave your horses near her on that note
04:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a small shield entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:17067 (1:05:16)
04:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2651 points, T:2426, poisoned by a stone orcish arrow
04:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a quantum mechanic, on T:17559 (1:08:12)
04:24 <Loggers_X> "you find a polymorph trap. You step onto a polymorph trap!"
04:24 <Loggers_X> that's what I get for going too fast
04:25 <Loggers_X> but all things considered, quantum mechanic's aren't bad
04:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17868 (1:11:47)
04:30 <Loggers_X> I do believe it is time for bed
04:30 <Loggers_X> as perfectly evidenced by that errant apostrophe in my quantum mechanics message
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05:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2880 (0:42:29)
05:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Gia Mal Una), 3378 points, T:2887, killed by the Goblin King
05:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 634 points, T:1334, killed by the Goblin King
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05:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 1180 points, T:2274, killed by a hobgoblin
05:36 <Umbire> Honestly I'd like zombies in the zoo on the last floor, means the zoo'll be attacking them more
05:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1317 (0:09:11)
05:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1699 (0:12:25)
05:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 1848 points, T:2443, killed by a mountain dwarf, while fainted from lack of food
05:49 <Umbire> took out an air E with sleep spell + +0 Mbane
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05:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 644 points, T:1539, killed by a bolt of lightning
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05:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:1338 (0:07:15)
06:02 <Umbire> bit late for the zombies, video game
06:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2046 (0:12:57)
06:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical crude dagger on an altar, on T:3241 (0:21:48)
06:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17260 (13:09:52)
06:23 <Umbire> the one time I needed the bag lmao
06:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 greased mithril helm of brilliance", on T:4042 (0:41:38)
06:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6066 (0:57:17)
07:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:8580 (1:14:28)
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07:26 <Umbire> whee
07:26 <Umbire> one polytrap later I have a storm giant friend
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07:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20713 (14:39:36)
07:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 166 points, T:257, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a potion
08:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1804 (0:20:15)
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08:28 <Loggers_VIII> heh a bunch of uruk-hai instakilled an elvish shopkeeper with their arrows
08:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:18840 (1:20:16)
08:32 <K2> this is the way
08:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:19270 (1:21:38)
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08:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1591 points, T:2571, killed by the Goblin King
08:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 78 points, T:288, killed by a water demon
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08:52 <Umbire> thank you oracle
08:53 <Umbire> got an attack spell that isn't spheres or force bolt
09:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:26065 (1:35:44)
09:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:33714 (19:51:02)
09:01 <Graznop> the sweet smell of annihilation first thing in the day...
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09:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1924 (0:14:13)
09:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1537 points, T:1998, killed by a giant rat
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09:26 <Umbire> annihilation really does fit don't it
09:26 <Umbire> on that note leaving off after me and my giant enjoy some chunks of meat
09:26 <Umbire> gonna try and focus on wiki stuff rest of the day
09:27 <Loggers_VIII> lol that's a great mental image
09:34 <Umbire> no really I got a stone to flesh cast off and there was a boulder trap room nearby
09:34 <Umbire> thought "why not, gonna be short on permafood for a minute"
09:36 <Loggers_VIII> stone to flesh is such a weird spell
09:36 <Loggers_VIII> but the world'd be a less funny place without it
09:40 <Umbire> it's your stoning save in gehennom if you don't have acid or lizards
09:41 <Umbire> animates statues for various purposes, makes meatballs
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09:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:29861 (2:03:41)
09:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29865 (2:03:48)
09:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:29994 (2:04:59)
09:55 <Loggers_VIII> haha yes 9 potions of full healing
09:55 <Loggers_VIII> alchemy is so good
09:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:31025 (2:10:45)
09:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided orange dragons, on T:31026 (2:10:59)
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10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1094 points, T:1933, killed by a gnome king, while fainted from lack of food
10:03 <dbanethacker> gain energy + potions of extra healing?
10:05 <Loggers_VIII> yea
10:05 <Loggers_VIII> the tourist quest always pays out with a bunch of healing potions because the player monsters fight spiders and lose
10:05 <Loggers_VIII> so you do the healing+speed recipe to get extra healing, and extra healing+gain energy to get full healing
10:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 476 points, T:1104, killed by an arrow
10:12 <dbanethacker> Dipping into the forge on the GK's level summoned a hostile lava demon during a full moon?!?
10:12 <Loggers_VIII> there's always a chance to summon a lava demon
10:13 <Loggers_VIII> it's the same as the chance to summon a water demon from fountain quaffing/dipping
10:14 <Loggers_VIII> there's a similarly miniscule chance that something good happens, that being the demon is summoned tame
10:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33128 (2:29:02)
10:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:628 (0:04:36)
10:18 <Loggers_VIII> yes I got graznop's healer bones!
10:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Graznop's ghost, the former Medicus ossium, on T:33498 (2:32:15)
10:18 <Graznop> Result!
10:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:33501 (2:32:51)
10:19 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame graznop
10:19 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/evilhack/dumplog/1677267615.evil.html
10:19 <Graznop> At least 3 wishes...
10:19 <Graznop> plus you'll look good in the Fedora!
10:19 <Loggers_VIII> oh shit yeah there's a WoW in here!
10:20 <Graznop> 1:3, iirc
10:20 <Loggers_VIII> this'll definitely give me enough wishes to waste on grayswandir
10:20 <Loggers_VIII> yep
10:21 <Loggers_VIII> hm this bag is gonna be annoying to deal with
10:22 <Loggers_VIII> fuck it I'm tipping it
10:22 <Umbire> No cancel wands/remove curse?
10:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:33526 (2:36:33)
10:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:33526 (2:36:39)
10:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:33527 (2:36:45)
10:22 <Umbire> :v
10:23 <K2> go big or go home son
10:23 <krm26> 6-7 wishes it what it takes me!
10:23 <Loggers_VIII> umbire there was one but foolishly I tried to zap it before id'ing it and it dusted
10:23 <Loggers_VIII> got grayswandir :)
10:23 <krm26> hax!
10:23 <K2> milance <--- microlance?
10:23 <K2> Loggers_VIII \o/
10:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1255 points, T:1832, killed by a giant bat
10:27 <NetSysFire> dammit
10:33 <K2> NetSysFire did you see the illithid helmet praying fix
10:33 <NetSysFire> i did!
10:33 <K2> yay
10:33 <K2> its not live of course but will be before june
10:34 <NetSysFire> i thought it was live
10:34 <K2> no
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10:34 <K2> none of the recent commits are for current version
10:35 <terrapin> regarding the commit, psionic blast only stopped by is_heavy_metallic helms
10:35 <terrapin> *is only
10:35 <K2> oh man
10:35 <K2> i need to tweak that commit, i forgot about that
10:35 <K2> mithril is fine
10:36 <K2> seriously... i wonder how much shit i've forgotten since i started making evilhack
10:36 <K2> a few years now and 2000+ commits
10:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:35168 (21:12:40)
10:36 <K2> thanks terrapin
10:36 <terrapin> heh, you've probably literally forgotten more than most players will ever know about the game
10:37 <K2> :)
10:37 <K2> one downside to being a dev - the more you dev, the less you play
10:37 <K2> i need to set aside time to play
10:39 <K2> NetSysFire, pretty much every commit from feb 10th on goes towards new version (0.8.2) and is not live
10:39 <NetSysFire> :(
10:39 <K2> i may have new version out by april though. I'm rethinking what big changes will be in next version
10:40 <K2> doing the underwater adventure branch, it may be better suited to 3.7 and all of the cool things you can do with levels in lua
10:40 <K2> meaning i'd focus now on drow race, maybe even druid role
10:40 <krm26> cocaine bears!
10:41 <K2> rawr
10:43 <K2> or maybe i can pull off the underwater branch now and it'll be cool
10:43 <K2> could try at least
10:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3091 points, T:4017, killed by an ape
10:45 <Loggers_VIII> as long as I play underwater branch before I die I can die happy :)
10:46 <Loggers_VIII> @e?sea dragon
10:46 <Hecubus> sea dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 6d8 breath water, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf wrap, 0d2 passive rust | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, unsolid, oviparous, seeinvis, passes-bars
10:46 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/975460cddfe0...a77579bbea14
10:46 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 a77579b - Tweak to last commit (illithids and metallic helmets as sacrifice gift).
10:49 <Loggers_VIII> hm I hate castle-2
10:49 <Loggers_VIII> all the monster's pathfinding gets messed up and they run into the wall so I have to run down a corridor and get blasted by their arsenal before I can fight them
10:49 <Loggers_VIII> which is normally fine but this time they have an eldritch ki-rin on their side
10:50 <K2> easy peasy
10:50 <Loggers_VIII> one zap of the tele wand banishes him to the broom closet :)
10:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35331 (3:02:23)
10:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35331 (3:02:26)
10:56 <Loggers_VIII> hm
10:56 <Loggers_VIII> can't even think of anything to wish for...
10:56 <K2> blessed figurine of a woodchuck named carl
10:56 <K2> *Carl
10:57 <Loggers_VIII> hah the game dropped a magic lamp on my head too
10:57 <Loggers_VIII> that reminds me I haven't genocided woodchucks yet
10:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:35834 (3:06:19)
11:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:39870 (3:27:26)
11:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:40278 (3:31:08)
11:26 <Loggers_VIII> damn ice devils summoned baphomet!
11:26 <Loggers_VIII> he drank a cursed potion of gain level though so it's fine :)
11:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:40867 (3:38:08)
11:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:41198 (3:42:06)
11:34 <Loggers_VIII> baphomet you fool
11:34 <Loggers_VIII> I have the ultimate demon killing weapon
11:37 <hackemslashem> The power of friendship?
11:39 <Loggers_VIII> how did you know :P
11:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:42153 (3:47:57)
11:49 <Loggers_VIII> hm a player monster keeps jumping at me while scared
11:49 <Loggers_VIII> maybe the fix didn't account for knight's intrinsic jumping ability? idk
11:51 <terrapin> the fix isn't live yet, I think
11:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:44834 (3:57:03)
11:53 <Loggers_VIII> oh duh
11:53 <Loggers_VIII> thanks terrapin forgot it was all being saved for 0.8.2
11:53 <Loggers_VIII> also frost brand \o/
11:53 <terrapin> woo!
11:55 <Loggers_VIII> that will be all the altar camping I'm doing this run :)
12:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:51119 (20:07:22)
12:05 <Loggers_VIII> hah we are ogresmasher pals
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12:05 <Umbire> Also jumping boots
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12:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:46090 (4:11:04)
12:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46120 (4:11:39)
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12:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:47230 (4:25:30)
12:44 <K2> woop
12:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:47676 (4:29:55)
12:53 <Loggers_VIII> heh drum of earthquake makes that one a cakewalk
12:54 <Loggers_VIII> and he dropped the eye so it's time to forge GoPur
12:59 <Loggers_VIII> vecna had a marker for me :)
13:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:48148 (4:37:16)
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:48152 (4:37:41)
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:48153 (4:37:43)
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:48154 (4:37:52)
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13:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:48160 (4:38:28)
13:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:48161 (4:38:31)
13:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided locusts, on T:48164 (4:38:47)
13:02 <Loggers_VIII> now then
13:02 <Loggers_VIII> time to destroy
13:04 <Loggers_VIII> oh wait a minute!
13:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:48288 (4:40:37)
13:04 <Loggers_VIII> forgot one
13:07 <K2> the brave brave sir robin protocol
13:08 <Loggers_VIII> damn straight
13:08 <K2> heh
13:08 <Loggers_VIII> you know, I was going to forge GoPur but I think I like grayswandir better
13:09 <Loggers_VIII> damage damage damage
13:10 <K2> pros/cons
13:10 <Loggers_VIII> I could easily make vorpal/frost brand work but I really want to destroy luci with grayswandir
13:11 <Loggers_VIII> actually, there's forges in purgatory, right?
13:11 <K2> i love it now that there's no one set kit to build. between dtsund dragon armor, obj properties, forged artifacts... so many more options and combos to do and try
13:11 <K2> yes there are
13:11 <Loggers_VIII> k2 yes it's amazing
13:11 <Loggers_VIII> that is my biggest (and possibly only) issue with vanilla
13:12 <Loggers_VIII> although they are also making an effort to change up the rigid ascension kit formula
13:12 <Loggers_VIII> but honestly, for my money, new artifact weapons make much more of an impact than changes to armor :P
13:12 <K2> the smallish changes that have happened to vanilla over the last year or so is actually fairly amazing
13:13 <Loggers_VIII> honestly yeah
13:13 <Loggers_VIII> I'm glad they aren't afraid to make changes to things that have been taken for granted for literal decades
13:13 <K2> overall, the devteam is a conservative bunch, but the newer devteam folks have made some more liberal changes
13:13 <Loggers_VIII> unihorn nerf, dsm changes, etc
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13:14 <Loggers_VIII> definitely the change I'm most excited for is the revamped gehennom filler levels
13:14 <K2> you should give tutorial mode a spin
13:14 <Loggers_VIII> I should, it looks interesting
13:14 <K2> that went live last night for 3.7
13:16 <Loggers_VIII> wish I had had something like that when I started
13:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:77170 (19:05:59)
13:35 <Loggers_VIII> everyone's getting ogresmasher today
13:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3386 (0:46:17)
13:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3507 (0:47:45)
14:06 <K2> today is 'have you hugged an ogre?' day
14:06 <K2> this makes me want to watch Shrek
14:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:54053 (21:37:07)
14:31 <terrapin> finally, a magic whistle!
14:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:39245 (1 day, 0:18:51)
14:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39247 (1 day, 0:19:03)
14:35 <Loggers_VIII> terrapin jeez, took 21 hours???
14:35 <Loggers_VIII> that's ridiculously unlucky lol
14:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Hello", on T:3512 (1:20:08)
14:36 <terrapin> I do play slowly, but yeah. I made it to the first few levels of Gehennom without finding one
14:38 <Loggers_VIII> unfortunate
14:38 <Loggers_VIII> what pets do you have?
14:39 <terrapin> just the pegasus, and I'm riding it usually so I don't need the whistle much. But there are a few pets I've left behind because it was too much of a hastle without a whistle
14:39 <terrapin> hassle?
14:40 <terrapin> that looks weird
14:41 <Loggers_VIII> think it's hassle
14:41 <Loggers_VIII> looks perfect
14:42 <Loggers_VIII> a perfect word in every way
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14:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3367 points, T:4579, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted chameleon imitating a blue dragon
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14:51 <terrapin> nothing like realizing the blessed +7 Dirge is no longer in your inventory after polypiling
14:51 <terrapin> thankfully I put it in a chest by accident
14:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:39596 (1 day, 0:39:23)
14:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:54855 (22:11:39)
15:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Lolth, on T:50100 (5:06:51)
15:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:50109 (5:07:14)
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> man juiblex is pretty scary
15:05 <Loggers_VIII> oh hey I got my orcus bones!
15:05 <Loggers_VIII> yeenoghu you rotten bastard fuck...
15:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Loggers' ghost, the former Traveler, on T:50395 (5:11:00)
15:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:50398 (5:11:08)
15:05 <Loggers_VIII> v e n g e a n c e
15:05 <terrapin> nice!
15:06 <krm26> stop boning yourself!
15:06 <Loggers_VIII> time to locate the dumplog
15:06 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame loggers
15:06 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1678090318.evil.html
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> wow that is a lot of stuff
15:08 <K2> \o/
15:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 16219 points, T:8378, killed by a fire elemental
15:09 <Loggers_VIII> here it is in case you want to see but don't want to look through like 100 start scummed games https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1677513830.evil.html
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15:16 <Loggers_VIII> can't wait to somehow die with 24 potions of full healing
15:16 <krm26> i do that all the time
15:17 <krm26> gotta save em!
15:18 <Loggers_VIII> oh I miscounted it's 34
15:18 <K2> chug them now, that way when you die, they wont be wasted
15:19 <K2> that's an extra 272 hp by the way
15:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided rock gnomes, on T:50636 (5:21:39)
15:19 <K2> lol why rock gnomes?
15:20 <Loggers_VIII> I'm sitting next to a guy who knows nothing about nethack and asked him what I should genocide and he said gnomes
15:20 <K2> what a dick
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> smh
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> oh that is a lot of HP from those healing potions
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> they are diluted, though
15:21 <K2> oh
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> I don't think it will be as much
15:21 <K2> it wont
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> how much less is it?
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> #save
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> oops
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> wrong tab \
15:22 <K2> without looking, i think a diluted blessed !oFH is 5 pts vs 8
15:22 <K2> 4-5
15:23 <Loggers_VIII> that's still a lot
15:23 <Loggers_VIII> I'll quaff all but like 10
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15:24 <Loggers_VIII> got exactly 100 HP from 23 potions
15:24 <Loggers_VIII> er, 23 diluted and one not diluted
15:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:14101 (2:12:53)
15:30 <Loggers_VIII> oh that's weird you can still use grayswandir if you're a weredemon
15:32 <K2> terrapin you here?
15:32 <K2> i'm going through your list of bugs, have another bit to share
15:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:51420 (5:30:23)
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15:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51462 (5:32:51)
15:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51465 (5:32:53)
15:40 <terrapin> yup
15:45 <terrapin> k2 yeah, I'll be hear for the next while
15:46 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L14
15:46 <K2> point 1 - this happens in vanilla nethack too
15:46 <K2> same behavior
15:47 <K2> doesnt matter whether paranoid swim is active or not, or whether you're flying/lev or not
15:47 <K2> pool/lava shows as 'invalid target' but you can select it anyways
15:47 <K2> dunno if this is a bug or intended
15:48 <K2> 'invalid target' maybe should be worded differently?
15:48 <K2> 'dont jump here unless you want to die'
15:48 <terrapin> maybe '(dangerous terrain)' or something?
15:48 <K2> i need to ask devteam
15:49 * K2 slaps bhaak around a bit with a large trout
15:49 <K2> :P
15:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:52579 (5:44:06)
15:52 <Loggers_VIII> you and that trout
15:53 <K2> its an mIRC thing
15:53 <K2> yes, i still use mIRC
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15:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:52684 (5:45:56)
15:56 <K2> \o/
15:56 <K2> ... CARL
15:57 <Loggers_VIII> found a magic lamp :)
15:57 <K2> hah
15:58 <Loggers_VIII> this run is so good if I fumble it I will combust for real this time
15:58 <Loggers_VIII> I know I always say I will combust but this time I really will
16:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) genocided giant centipedes, on T:52876 (5:49:12)
16:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:52880 (5:50:49)
16:02 <Loggers_VIII> throne wish :)
16:03 <Loggers_VIII> !lastasc krm26
16:03 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1676141822.evil.html
16:03 <K2> good lord
16:03 <K2> how many wishes is this now?
16:03 <Loggers_VIII> too many
16:03 <krm26> don't look at my shame!
16:04 <K2> 14th wish
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> I don't even have anything to wish for
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> there's nothing I could possibly need
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> and only six hours into the run!
16:04 <krm26> after blowing my 2nd-9th wishes on a 2nd quest artifact i spend 10+ on the 3rd artifact i'll never get
16:05 <K2> heh
16:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54284 (6:05:37)
16:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:54288 (6:05:43)
16:20 <Loggers_VIII> where the fuck is the bell of opening
16:20 <Loggers_VIII> ok it's gotta be at vlads
16:20 <Loggers_VIII> I'll just pop up there and say hi
16:20 <Loggers_VIII> fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
16:21 <K2> YANI: a special container that allows you to place all of the invocation items into. it can only house the three invocation items. has properties like a BoH. special ultra hard quest to obtain
16:22 <Loggers_VIII> please k2 please I'm tired of losing the invocation items to player monsters without realizing
16:22 <krm26> i'd be all over that, although it is kind of nice to have more shit in open inventory to suck up random curses
16:22 <krm26> just make the invocation suck all the mana out of the book and candelabrum, reducing both to 1 aum :-)
16:22 <K2> hahah
16:23 <Loggers_VIII> I swear game please let it be at vlads
16:23 <Loggers_VIII> ahhhhh it's not
16:23 <Loggers_VIII> feck feck feck
16:23 <Loggers_VIII> gotta think on this
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16:24 <K2> ttyrec to the rescue
16:24 <krm26> and lets play back the ttys!
16:24 <krm26> hardfought needs that built-on
16:24 <krm26> a live link on each tty
16:24 <krm26> omigod that would be amazeballs
16:24 <K2> nao has that. i tried to get it to work but it didnt, not sure why
16:25 <krm26> really? i had no idea! why the hell am i wasting my time on hardfought :-)
16:25 <K2> someday i'll ask dtype if he had to setup anything special for it
16:25 <K2> some php dependency I'm missing or something
16:26 <krm26> watching one of your old games now -- awesome!
16:27 <K2> nao?
16:27 <krm26> yeah
16:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:19431 (3:11:36)
16:27 <K2> yeah i need to figure out how to get that working
16:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:57140 (23:11:53)
16:27 <krm26> honestly that is the greatest thing ever
16:27 <krm26> like not as good as dragonbane but better than tortles
16:28 <krm26> i'm spending all my wishes from now on on integrated tty playback instead of wasting them on pyec
16:28 <K2> new artifact: ttyrec player
16:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:57163 (23:14:06)
16:30 <NetSysFire> K2: a bag for all the items that give you points!
16:30 <NetSysFire> so gems, artifacts and stuff
16:30 <K2> now you're just asking too much
16:31 <NetSysFire> yes i am very greedy
16:31 <NetSysFire> so greedy that i am even asking for a backport on the illithid helm fix so i dont have to wait!
16:31 <krm26> most of the crap you carry doesn't matter so much compared to what you destroy
16:31 <NetSysFire> dont call my dilithium crystals crap you gnome
16:31 * NetSysFire throws egg at krm26
16:31 <K2> NetSysFire - no backports to current live version unless its a critical bug fix
16:31 <NetSysFire> ITS CRITICAL
16:32 <NetSysFire> obviously
16:32 <K2> nerp
16:32 <NetSysFire> 0/10 service, i will give you 0 stars!11111
16:32 <K2> gets 0 stars, gives 0 fucks
16:32 <K2> damn that was good
16:33 * K2 pats himself on the back for being ultra witty
16:33 <NetSysFire> alright, you win this one
16:33 <K2> :P
16:33 * NetSysFire does death glare
16:33 <K2> owie
16:34 <NetSysFire> EPI: cursed blindfolds and towels may have holes in them. so when you are in sight of a monster with a gaze attack, there is a 1 in 10000 chance per turn you get a glimpse at them, which is fatal for things like medusa
16:34 * hackemslashem quickly passes K2 EoTO
16:34 <NetSysFire> or s/cursed/burnt (eroded)/
16:36 <NetSysFire> dragonhide towel
16:36 <NetSysFire> i think an oilskin towel would totally miss the point though lol
16:37 <krm26> dragonhide towel is not going to be very absorbent
16:37 <NetSysFire> have you ever had a real dragonhide towel? they are amazing
16:37 <krm26> i do like the idea of rotted blindfolds, rotted gloves only "working" 98% of the time
16:38 <K2> ^ this
16:38 <Graznop> rotted / burnt bags should leak contents occasionally
16:38 <krm26> or just let in more water
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16:39 <Loggers_VIII> thinking back the bell is probably at vecna
16:39 <NetSysFire> oh no you are making it real
16:39 <krm26> there is no real reason why the ritual items shouldn't go in a chest, tho
16:40 <krm26> or even just a crystal chest
16:41 <K2> not feasible to carry a chest around though
16:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a touch of death), on T:54701 (6:12:21)
16:41 <krm26> that's why it should be ok!
16:42 <Loggers_VIII> I did?? I didn't even notice
16:42 <K2> where's your source of MR Loggers_VIII
16:46 <Loggers_VIII> amulet
16:46 <Loggers_VIII> I cannot kill him fast enough wtf
16:46 <Loggers_VIII> he's stuck on 40 HP
16:46 <Loggers_VIII> ok he's dead
16:46 <Loggers_VIII> there's another downstairs
16:49 <Loggers_VIII> oh he cast double trouble again that's fun
16:49 <Loggers_VIII> this run is literally fucked I might just quit
16:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:54841 (6:20:11)
16:49 <K2> no quitting
16:49 <Loggers_VIII> yeah no quitting
16:50 <Loggers_VIII> so guys wanna talk about what the worst monster spell is and why it's cancellation
16:51 <Loggers_VIII> oh and he casts double trouble again!!!
16:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:21817 (3:36:46)
16:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21819 (3:36:53)
16:53 <Loggers_VIII> AND HE CASTS IT AGAIN
16:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:22057 (3:38:08)
16:53 <Loggers_VIII> I'm starting to get a little annoyed to be honest with you
16:54 <Loggers_VIII> oh fun he casted it again
16:54 <Loggers_VIII> what do you do
16:54 <Loggers_VIII> what do you do when this happens
16:55 <krm26> you woke him early?
16:55 <krm26> just slow and steady
16:55 <Loggers_VIII> no, I was strong enough
16:55 <Loggers_VIII> then I realized I left the bell somewhere and all hell broke loose
16:56 <Loggers_VIII> double trouble count for this one fight is five in case anyone is wondering
16:56 <krm26> have you still not found the bell?
16:56 <Loggers_VIII> I know where it is
16:56 <Loggers_VIII> I think
16:56 <krm26> ok, cool. at least you can still levelport
16:56 <Loggers_VIII> but I've been stuck in vlads for forever fighting this asshole
16:56 <krm26> you don't have to fight him if he hasn't stolen your shit, you can just abandon him
16:56 <Loggers_VIII> +7 skilled grayswandir is doing upwards of three damage luckily
16:56 <Loggers_VIII> unfortunately he has my shit
16:56 <krm26> ah well then there is that
16:57 <krm26> so he is out-nastying/doubling your dps?
16:57 <krm26> i've had slow tortle/giant tourist trouble with that before myself
16:57 <Loggers_VIII> every time I'm about to kill one he summons another
16:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:22415 (3:42:13)
16:58 <Loggers_VIII> I'm fighting wizard #5 and #6 now
16:58 <Loggers_VIII> well, not right now
16:58 <K2> brb
16:58 <krm26> you only need to kill the one that has your stuff!
16:58 <Loggers_VIII> I decided if I kept playing while I was so heated I would die lol
16:59 <Loggers_VIII> I gotta calm down a bit
16:59 <krm26> a few potions of para might let you finally put down the pair, since they are basically a mini-time-stop
16:59 <Loggers_VIII> maybe
16:59 <krm26> and double trouble won't always produce an mr wizard
17:00 <krm26> just calmly and slowly feed them both into your chipper shredder, you can do it
17:00 <Loggers_VIII> yeah I am not losing this run
17:00 <krm26> tortle tourist, of course, that is really hard mode for killing tough stuff. you don't have enough hit to dual wield effectively against good ac wizards
17:01 <Loggers_VIII> yes I am stuck with grayswandir
17:01 <Loggers_VIII> ^ I think this statement proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how ridiculous evilhack wizard is
17:02 <krm26> i have had two wizards before (on plane of water) that i literally could not kill. i had to just leave them behind with all my quest artifacts
17:02 <Loggers_VIII> oh no, I have to use the most highly damaging weapon in the game on max enchant and skill!
17:02 <Loggers_VIII> I would literally just leave if I had performed the invocation already but I had to go and fuck it up
17:02 <krm26> was pure luck i still had the amulet
17:03 <Loggers_VIII> I'm gonna try and zap them with death and see what happens real quick
17:03 <krm26> i've ascended *one* early wizard wake before and it was a total pita (and as a much more doable centaur if i recall)
17:03 <krm26> carrying probing?
17:03 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
17:03 <Loggers_VIII> heh one of the wizards killed himself in his own acid
17:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:54983 (6:26:05)
17:03 <krm26> !!
17:03 <Loggers_VIII> ok they're both dead!
17:03 <krm26> excellent
17:04 <krm26> now go ring your bell
17:04 <Loggers_VIII> first I gotta go pick it up from... probably vecna's
17:04 <Loggers_VIII> I might watch the ttyrec to be sure
17:04 <Loggers_VIII> never done that before
17:04 <krm26> definitely smart to not touch the game again until you see the bell in the ttyrec
17:05 <Loggers_VIII> this might be a silly question... but how do you watch ttyrecs?
17:05 <krm26> use a ttyrec player, or be super-lazy and just search the non-binary chunks
17:05 <krm26> good overview on alt.org: https://alt.org/nethack/trd/?file=https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/ttyrec/k2/2014-04-25.03:48:18.ttyrec.bz2#
17:05 <Loggers_VIII> thanks
17:06 <krm26> playttyrec, termplay, etc
17:06 <krm26> i, as the laziest evilhack player, load it in vsc and do a find all on Bell of Opening and look at the last instance
17:06 <Loggers_VIII> I will just be doing that :P
17:06 <Graznop> I found playttyrec.c the easiest, but you've got to compile it
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17:08 <Loggers_VIII> wait a minute, where's my candelabrum and card?
17:08 <krm26> hehehehe
17:09 <krm26> you not pick them up after killing the wizards?
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> it was definitely on the wizard I killed upstairs, right?
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> right
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> right I will tell myself this
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> oh here they are
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> for some reason when I was blind it said "you feel no objects here"
17:10 <Loggers_VIII> christ what was that, 9 wizard kills in one fight?
17:10 <Loggers_VIII> I am simply better
17:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:22842 (3:55:07)
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17:35 <Loggers_VIII> good news after searching through the ttyrecs I have located the bell
17:36 <Loggers_VIII> some joker stole it right before medusa I guess
17:38 <Loggers_VIII> wait...
17:38 <Loggers_VIII> oh fuck
17:38 <Loggers_VIII> that guy read a cursed scroll of teleportation after he stole iti
17:40 <Loggers_VIII> oh my god why me
17:43 <Loggers_VIII> aand the wizard is back
17:43 <Loggers_VIII> fuck
17:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named gustavo", on T:55630 (6:36:26)
17:45 <Loggers_VIII> oh my god I found him
17:46 <Loggers_VIII> you're not getting away this time you slippery little shit
17:47 <Loggers_VIII> the bell of opening has been retrieved :)
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17:53 <Loggers_VIII> wait, why can the wizard cast double trouble from across the map?
17:57 <Loggers_VIII> WHY IS HE CASTING IT SO FUCKING MUCH
17:57 <Loggers_VIII> everything is over
17:57 <Loggers_VIII> fuck fuck fuck fuck
18:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:27073 (4:46:18)
18:02 <Loggers_VIII> wait
18:02 <Loggers_VIII> wait a minute
18:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide water walking boots", on T:27076 (4:46:58)
18:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:56339 (6:55:23)
18:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:56424 (6:58:11)
18:06 <Loggers_VIII> finally
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18:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the illithid high priestess of Moloch, on T:56630 (7:02:38)
18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:56642 (7:02:52)
18:13 <Loggers_VIII> I'm going to dieee
18:13 <Loggers_VIII> I'm going to take a break first to assess the situation though
18:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2554 (0:32:59)
18:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:57764 (23:48:35)
18:24 <Loggers_VIII> ok this is so fucking dumb
18:24 <Loggers_VIII> I've counted SIX double troubles in this fight alone
18:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic whistle", on T:27841 (5:09:19)
18:25 <Loggers_VIII> AND HE CASTS IT AGAIN
18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:27842 (5:09:29)
18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:56914 (7:13:39)
18:26 <Loggers_VIII> just kill me please
18:26 <Loggers_VIII> end my fucking suffering
18:27 <Loggers_VIII> DOUBLE TROUBLE AGAIN!!!!
18:27 <Loggers_VIII> what do you do
18:27 <Loggers_VIII> what are you supposed to do???
18:27 <Loggers_VIII> and again!!
18:27 <Loggers_VIII> nope. it's not possible. It's just not happening.
18:28 <Loggers_VIII> nothing about this situation is winnable
18:28 <Graznop> what level is the wizard now?
18:28 <Loggers_VIII> no ide
18:28 <Loggers_VIII> *idea
18:28 <Loggers_VIII> level 49, and I'm dead
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 2426478 points, T:56965, killed by the Wizard of Yendor
18:28 <Graznop> ouch
18:29 <Loggers_VIII> I'd like you to take a look at the creatures vanquished page
18:29 <Loggers_VIII> take a look at how many times the wizard was killed
18:29 <Loggers_VIII> then I'd like to remind you that I encountered the wizard three times
18:29 <Loggers_VIII> twenty six kills in three encounters is absolutely fucking ridiculous
18:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2898 (0:41:29)
18:30 <Loggers_VIII> well, plus one kill from when I sniped him in his tower
18:31 <Loggers_VIII> what the actual fuck
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18:39 <K2> that is some really shitty rng luck
18:40 <K2> this dbl trouble chances are back to normal in next release fwiw
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18:40 <K2> !lastgame
18:40 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1678116498.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1678090509.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1677914117.evil.html
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18:51 <krm26> oh man loggers, just came on -- so sorry :-(  i've had several 98% tortle ascensions also
18:52 <krm26> would be frustrating if i wanted to win
18:53 <krm26> slow-race single-wield (incl. basic-limited 2weapon) pure melee roles are definitely the hardest evilhack ascensions
18:55 <K2> i've had a wizard storm in vanilla too, but i dont recall it being over 15-18 rodneys
18:55 <krm26> wizard storms are a lot more likely when it takes you 10 rounds to kill a rodney instead of 5 :-)
18:56 <krm26> getting an anchor-rodney who is mr with -40ac when you only poke him for up to 20 damage a round can be rough
18:57 <Graznop> think my healer is going to have to try something different, anyone tried level draining the wizard and leaving him alive?
18:57 <krm26> but that is why they invented running away leaving all your stuff behind
18:57 <krm26> you can leave him alive without level draining if you leave the level
18:57 <K2> Graznop, level drain is one of the best attacks to use against rodney
18:58 <krm26> (i'm not sure if i'd say BEST, it takes quite a few rounds)
18:58 <K2> you can get him to a point where he cant cast his most powerful spells, including dbl trouble
18:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28582 (5:37:45)
18:58 <krm26> what's the double-trouble breakoff? like 24?
18:58 <K2> its the highest one
18:58 <Graznop> I want to avoid the double trouble - especially on the plains
18:58 <Graznop> level 18?
18:59 <K2> i'm not sure how high it is, low 20's
18:59 <K2> have to look in mcastu.c
19:02 <krm26> level 18
19:02 <krm26> so need to drop him to 17 or below
19:03 <Graznop> and maybe steal the amulet back if he gets it?
19:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:58782 (1 day, 0:29:10)
19:04 <krm26> yes, need to watch for amulet (and maybe quest item) thefts
19:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58787 (1 day, 0:29:45)
19:04 <krm26> i don't think amulet theft is level-limited
19:04 <krm26> if you get him down to 14, he won't cancel you or summon nasties either
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19:06 <Graznop> hmmm - was thinking of using staff of Ae, but maybe boulder fort and casting drain life
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19:08 <K2> i dont think you have to drop him that low
19:08 <K2> just a few whacks to drain, no more dbl trouble
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19:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a weredemon, on T:29196 (5:50:53)
19:12 <krm26> am i reading mcastu wrong?
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19:18 <K2> prob not
19:19 <K2> maybe i just got lucky
19:19 <K2> i just recall after a few drain level whacks, he was basically neutered
19:23 <krm26> i mean, the rng can still favor you
19:23 <krm26> he isn't guaranteed to double trouble even in 20 rounds undrained
19:25 <K2> true
19:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7459 points, T:4801, killed by a jaguar
19:40 <dbanethacker> I hate those *&^%* gnomish wizards in the mall
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19:43 <Umbire> But stunlock deaths are a fair and balanced part of the game
19:48 <terrapin> rn2(n) returns a value up to n-1 so I think you only need to get rodney down to 19 to prevent double trouble since two rn2 calls are involved
19:51 <dbanethacker> True but it feels like Loggers and Rodney - I can't get unstunned before he stuns me again for another X number of turns.
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19:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41715 (1 day, 2:24:02)
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19:59 <dbanethacker> I guess the lesson is to be ready to instakill the gnomish wizards.
19:59 <dbanethacker> Full moon is in effect on this game!  Dwarvish crystal spear of fire and mithril chain mail on first 2 levels.
20:00 <Loggers_VIII> if you have a decent melee weapon they aren't too bad
20:00 <Loggers_VIII> ooh that spear is niec
20:00 <Loggers_VIII> *nice
20:00 <dbanethacker> I have a decent melee weapon this time !
20:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 69 points, T:115, killed by an electric shock
20:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1849 (0:06:36)
20:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of mobility entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:2719 (0:09:02)
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20:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:59033 (1 day, 0:39:27)
20:35 <dbanethacker> This is neat - the guard came into the vault while I was taking off some armor.  He said he'd be back when I could speak.
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21:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide robe", on T:59547 (1 day, 1:10:08)
21:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:60069 (1 day, 1:19:55)
21:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:60090 (1 day, 1:21:32)
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21:34 <terrapin> here's an odd bug...
21:35 <terrapin> I polymorphed, and afterwards I couldn't use my lance to hit two squares diagonally despite having expert skill
21:36 <terrapin> then I went down a stair and I could do it again
21:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:30482 (6:10:23)
21:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30496 (6:10:43)
21:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 mithril helm of brilliance", on T:60561 (1 day, 1:44:13)
21:54 <terrapin> does the hand of vecna give drain resistance?
21:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:30838 (6:19:00)
22:02 <K2> no
22:02 <K2> the robe vecna wears does tho
22:02 <terrapin> huh. I'm not wearing that though. 
22:03 <terrapin> oh wow the dragonhide robe I wished for is drain resistant
22:04 <terrapin> no wait that isn't it... it's fully identified
22:04 <terrapin> there is something screwy going on with my game
22:05 <terrapin> sometimes I can't use my lance like an expert, sometimes I can't drain myself
22:05 <K2> hmm
22:06 <K2> how are you trying to drain yourself?
22:06 <terrapin> tossing stormbringer up
22:06 <terrapin> it worked before
22:06 <terrapin> and it just worked now
22:06 <terrapin> but earlier it wasn't working---it would just say that stormbringer hit me
22:07 <K2> i wonder if its drain resistance was still in effect
22:07 <K2> are you very fast?
22:07 <terrapin> I'm on a hasted greater pegasus
22:07 <K2> so yeah
22:07 <terrapin> actually that is a difference---before I had dismounted
22:08 <K2> maybe the extra turn, you're still drain res
22:08 <terrapin> but I was never wielding stormbringer
22:08 <K2> hrm
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22:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:61730 (1 day, 2:35:08)
22:45 <terrapin> the lance thing is still happening
22:45 <terrapin> ugh
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23:13 <terrapin> I was half convinced that the lance thing was a product of level draining/restoration, but I've flipped from being able to hit like an expert and not without changing my level at all
23:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 208 points, T:1304, killed by a small mimic
23:28 <K2> terrapin, at expert skill in lance, there's still only an 80% chance for a successful joust. is that what you're talking about?
23:29 <K2> you can land a hit at expert range, but not always joust
23:29 <terrapin> no, sometimes I can't (a)pply the lance to hit diagonally, as I should as an expert
23:29 <terrapin> only orthogonally or a knight's move
23:33 <K2> weird
23:33 <K2> are you sure you're expert at it after draining yourself?
23:34 <terrapin> I checked the #enhance, and at least once I was unable to do it even though I hadn't drained myself. 
23:36 <K2> what exp level are you currently?
23:36 <terrapin> 21
23:38 <K2> test game i started, working fine so far
23:39 <terrapin> yeah it was very intermittent and only started happening after orcustown
23:39 <terrapin> it's late enough that I'm not fully convinced it isn't just sleepiness
23:39 <K2> i'm at a loss currently
23:39 <K2> yeah i'm about to znooze myself
23:39 <K2> snooze
23:41 <K2> gnite o/
23:41 <terrapin> gnite
23:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1778 (0:37:55)