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(www.adiirc.com)] 10:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 320 points, T:833, killed by a sharpened bamboo stick 10:46 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 10:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 218 points, T:323, killed by a giant rat 10:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Hum Fem Law), 541 points, T:843, killed by a gnome lord 11:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3930 (3:08:31) 11:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:4186 (3:16:58) 11:58 oh Loggers_VIII, just saw your Lucifer death :-( Tortles make everything tougher 11:59 and remember, you just need more scrolls if someone is gonna earthquake you 12:00 ugh, time to go pull the drainage tube out of my neck :-P 12:08 you should get a darth vader cubicle setup krm26 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:715 (0:08:45) 12:11 i AM only a master of evil 12:12 since i didn't die under anesthesia i unfortunately still have to keep killing infidels 12:12 does a helm of opposite alignment have any meaning for infidels? 12:15 it will change you lawful 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:833 (0:12:21) 12:15 so you COULD use it to ascend from the lawful altar? 12:16 if i remember, that's not ideal 12:16 moloch isnt keen on cheating like that 12:17 ok, i had a gut feeling that shouldn't be a strategy based on how infidel worked 12:17 i wonder if i could find a lawful altar tho and use the helm to make holy water? 12:17 prolly a shitload of penalties for that 12:20 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 12:24 hi krm26 12:24 there is actually a tactical use for helm of opposite alignment 12:24 hiho mobileuser 12:25 does the infidel holy water thing work? or are the alignment penalties too severe? 12:25 you can't ascend with it, but you can use it to lead the life of a normal lawful character for a while 12:26 like (indeed) creating holy water 12:26 getting lawful gifts 12:26 priests not mad at you 12:27 and since you are weld-proof, you can wear it and take it off whenever you want 12:27 my question is, does doing lawful shit with the helm on (i.e. need to pray to get holy water) piss off moloch big time? 12:27 I don't think so 12:27 there is wiki :b 12:28 "wearing a helm of opposite alignment temporarily negates all the peculiarities listed below" 12:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Tomsod/YANIs_and_patches/Infidel 12:29 that page obviously doesn't have the evil changes, but still useful 12:30 oh it will remove any protection you bought 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1514 (0:28:01) 12:31 we shall see 12:31 I don't think it actually changes alignment score 12:33 bit of trivia: once upon a time there was a bug where you could get to the planes as lawful with the amulet and ascend 12:34 unfortunately K2 fixed this before anyone could abuse that :-) 12:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a soldier ant corpse on an altar of Hermes, on T:5369 (4:03:50) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1991 (0:41:34) 12:54 so lucky, minetown altar is lawful 12:56 nice! 13:04 still need to find some way to sacrifice to moloch 13:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1016 points, T:1396, killed by a rabid dog 13:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed parasite's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1138 (0:07:48) 13:15 but you don't have to be in a hurry to do that, lawful god will give you nice stuff too 13:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3553 (0:46:01) 13:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3093 (0:26:48) 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:39873 (13:40:49) 14:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:13 the spell-retention increase on successful cast is a truly Evil feature 14:13 every time I'm at full power I feel like I'm wasting resources 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:832 (0:03:49) 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 1688 points, T:1340, disintegrated by an antimatter vortex 14:19 the dangers of not b/u/c identifying your geno scrolls 14:20 heh 14:20 you could have suffocated to a gel cube instead, you were much more in that danger zone 14:21 i would normally never go see a bad dnd movie but they have sucked me in with a gel cube trailer 14:21 you can see the tortle character suffocated on the big screen! 14:22 I love tortles they're so good 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:7622 (2:19:48) 14:22 gel cubes make for a real captive audience 14:23 do helms of opposite alignment do anything helpful for infidels? 14:23 yes 14:23 i have one now, put it on, lawful, can visit priest in minetown 14:23 oh nice 14:23 i have found like 0 potions so far this run but also planning on using it to make holy water 14:23 no endgame use tho 14:24 there shouldn't be endgame use for helms of opposite alignment anyway 14:25 feels scummy abandoning your god on astral 14:25 @e?goblin king 14:25 Goblin King (o) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: unique | AC: 7 | Atk: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical | Align: -15 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, infravis 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 34 points, T:87, killed by a wooden dart 14:27 hey who poisoned that kobold's darts 14:30 oooh katana in shop 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1129 (0:05:21) 14:33 why thank you goblin king I did want a marker how did you know :) 14:37 "soup ears turns into a vorpal jabberwock!" 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (woodchucks), on T:2251 (0:11:46) 14:45 k2 when you cast dig at a boulder, it turns into the '*' glyph, but stays a boulder and reverts to the boulder glyph when the screen redraws 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:41119 (14:22:09) 14:48 oh weird I didn't know jabberwocks could open doors 14:50 of course they can, they have "claws that catch" 14:51 oh duh :P 14:52 @e?vorpal jabberwock 14:52 vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis 14:52 lol goblin king marker spawned with zero charges 14:52 evil! 14:52 that's 50 more than it spawned for for me 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the human priest of Blind Io, on T:3772 (0:26:14) 14:54 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:9250 (2:52:09) 14:55 and then soup ears lawfully returned my money to me :) 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:4090 (0:29:31) 14:57 terrapin is this in tty or curses mode? 14:58 tty 14:58 ok 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo: Back For More", on T:5017 (0:31:36) 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:5100 (0:32:48) 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:5364 (0:34:59) 15:02 oh wow soup ears actually fought the oracle and won 15:02 thought for sure he'd kill himself on her 15:03 oh my bag of holding is cursed 15:03 goodbye magic marker :( 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a lesser nightmare, on T:6537 (0:40:26) 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 13830 points, T:6571, diseased by a dwarf zombie, while praying 15:08 why was the lady angry 15:08 god what a waste of a run 15:09 got unlucky on prayer timeout I guess 15:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:11252 (3:20:59) 15:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:11724 (3:29:31) 15:35 so many events in a mere 6571 turns Loggers_VIII 15:35 yeah lol 15:35 was quite the adventure 15:36 still don't know why I couldn't pray but I'm sure I'll figure it out later 15:37 wish on T:5017 I'd guess 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:955 (0:05:55) 15:39 ooohhhh 15:39 a mistake I won't make anymore: get wish from fountain when diluting potions, then go to altar to pray and bless potions 15:39 I forgot all about wishes increasing prayer timeout 15:39 yeah easy to forget 15:39 lesson for next time I suppose 15:40 which could also be this time because I've found a magic lamp 15:40 heh 15:41 if you left bones, those now contain a vorpal J? 15:41 yes 15:42 I apologize in advance if anyone finds a vorpal J in a filler mines level 15:43 I have a feeling it will be you ;-) 15:44 ahh yes nabru bones with the candied cockatrice corpse fruit 15:44 ugh asshole mountain dwarf raided a shop for a ton of AC 15:44 I can't kill him >:( 15:44 bad nabru! bad bones! 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:12542 (3:45:37) 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:7394 (5:39:07) 15:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 12892 points, T:5349, killed by a giant turtle 15:54 hmm 15:55 helm of speed or frost brand, what a choice 15:55 you are drowning in wishes 15:55 helm of speed won't show up with an owner who will kill you 15:56 yeah 15:56 but I already got intrinsic speed from wand of speed... 15:56 meh helm of speed is the better choice 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 frost brand", on T:3801 (0:25:53) 15:59 hah, then why 16:00 your god is never gonna give you a dragonhide helm of speed 16:00 it's more fun :) 16:00 plus old Gustavo needs a break every once in a while 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4052 (0:29:26) 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4074 (0:29:37) 16:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:06 who do you name sting? 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (woodchucks), on T:4874 (0:35:24) 16:07 uh... daggers? 16:07 genociding woodchucks? WTF ? 16:08 random scroll of geno 16:08 it's a win win, if it's cursed I get to kill woodchucks and if it's uncursed I wipe them out 16:10 now that I'm thinking about it more, maybe my new random geno go-to should be krakens or something 16:10 nice xp 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a bone dagger entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:5617 (0:41:52) 16:14 get down to rat king at the bottom of the mines -- the guardian naga hatchling deliberately slithers onto a polymorph trap! == titan 16:14 good thing i was still on the upstairs 16:15 if you walk over lava with a blessed BoH - it gets burned up, right? 16:15 that's nasty 16:16 you mean like with fireproof water walking boots? 16:16 dbanethacker I don't know if BoHs can be burnt 16:16 they certainly can be 16:16 I assume if it's the bag of the hesperides it's fine 16:16 dragonhide proof against fire 16:16 I have an amulet of flying 16:16 flying you aren't walking, nothing will get burnt 16:16 No, just a regular BoH 16:16 no Hesperides 16:16 everything is fine if you are flying 16:16 hold on lemme check your inventory 16:16 I need to get thatfrom Kathryn 16:16 oh yeah just keep amulet of flying 16:17 of course, i've been flying with a gold amulet that got yanked by a lepre before :-) 16:17 oh jeez that was scary 16:17 beholders are nasty 16:17 oh damn he unenchanted all your stuff 16:18 Hmmm, need to re-enchant my armor 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:13782 (4:15:56) 16:19 Done. So what about flying over the lava - is my BoH safe? 16:19 yes 16:20 flying/levitation is fine 16:20 well so much for that plan -- praying lawful on a lawful altar using a hooa angers the god and does NOT bless your potions 16:20 :( 16:20 thought i was being so clever 16:21 dbanethacker I wouldn't recommend going too much farther into gehennom with only -11 AC 16:22 Oh, he disenchanged my armor - I see 16:22 rat bastard E 16:22 yes 16:22 cancellation is a bitch in evilhack 16:23 Hmmm, I'll have to burn a wish to get a magic marker. 16:23 that's a great use of a wish 16:24 when you do, write an uncursed scroll of genocide to set aside for alhoons 16:24 it'll save you a LOT of trouble 16:24 I'm thinking of creating a magic hat as proof for forgetful monsters/situations. 16:25 is that a greased fixed dragonhide helm of speed? Or is it an oilskin? 16:25 dragonhide is already fixed inherently 16:25 blessed fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm 16:25 oilskin acts as permanently greased 16:26 but I think it might technically be a magic property so you can't wish for it on helm of speed 16:26 you cannot wish for properties on magical gear. you cannot wish for oilskin on materials other than cloth 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "magic marker", on T:35971 (17:31:05) 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35972 (17:31:13) 16:27 i'd recommend never wishing for a blessed magic marker 16:27 much more flexible to have a magic marker and some cursed, uncursed, and blessed scrolls 16:28 (i confess i also just don't wish for markers, i don't think they stack up well to dragonhide gear and artifacts when you can poly for scrolls) 16:28 excuse me what 16:29 no marker wishing??? 16:29 although I guess I have more wishes to burn on them when playing tortle because there's no real need to wish for dragonhide stuff 16:29 yeah,yeah, in my 29 evilhack ascensions i think i have wished for maybe 1 marker 16:29 blasphemy 16:30 i'd much rather blow 5 wishes on a second artifact 16:30 dragonhide stuff isn't even that important if you buy 20 points of protection 16:30 i'm too lazy to buy more than 10 protection, and dragonhide stuff is great for less worrying about deterioration management 16:31 and enchanting for that matter, who cares if you are in +0 dragonhide gear 16:32 yeah, I guess if you don't have gray dragon scaled armor some random joe with a wand of cancellation could really ruin your day 16:32 that almost seems like a problem that could be solved if only there were an item that let you write enchant armor scrolls 16:33 There, -20 ? Is that enough? 16:33 that's comfortable I would say 16:33 for vecna 16:33 i can't think of a game where i haven't had 20 enchant armor scrolls left behind in my stash when i ascend, why would i marker for them 16:34 I guess I could wish for dragonhide gauntlets of power or water walking boots. I also have a +4 shield of reflection but I lose an attack round when I wear it. 16:34 Never use a shield 16:34 no shield 16:34 can GoP be dragonhide? 16:34 Always be reflecting 16:35 The shield brings me to -26 so that makes it better against Vecna when needed, perhaps? 16:35 I can wish for dragonhide GoP, perhaps. 16:35 you are a monk, never use a shield (or are you shurikening him to death?) 16:35 if you attack him from range use a shield 16:35 but if you're planning for melee never use shields 16:35 I need to find a forge so I can make some shurikens. I have 16 boulders for range attacks already. 16:36 that will not be enough for vecna 16:36 Yeah melee is for the regular denizens 16:36 have you ever fought vecna before? 16:36 Nope 16:36 1. eyes don't protect you against vecna, use a towel 16:36 you'll have a good time he's fun 16:36 I have a towel 16:36 yeah he has a nasty death gaze that'll drain max hp off of you 16:37 also! 16:37 do NOT get into melee range with Kas 16:37 Eyes are only to see what's around me - no magic lamp so far. 16:37 WORST mistake of my life 16:37 2. bring a scroll of scare monster in case he summons you into oblivion and you can't cope 16:37 I don't know if you know, but in evil you can wish for a magic lamp I believe 16:37 so if you want it really bad that's an option 16:38 3. there is a forge in goblintown if you didn't destroy it 16:38 hmmm, it's a nice to have. 16:38 I can get back to GT as the forge there wasn't used up. have to hike up 28 levels. 16:38 if you are diligent untrapping dart and arrow traps you may have lucked into a supply of silver missiles that you can turn into silver shuriken 16:39 making a stack of 50 or so +7 silver shuriken has a really big payoff 16:39 the goblin town forge is where 90% of the magic happens in evil, I've learned 16:39 I have mithril and steel to make shurikens but haven't found any silver yet. 16:39 but magic missile works fine in most situations 16:39 are you carrying everything with you? 16:40 don't fight vecna burdened 16:40 No + MM yet 16:40 or kas for that matter 16:40 or the 4 arch liches before kas 16:40 I'm unburdened when all is in my blessed BoH 16:41 heh, you blessed your boulders 16:41 go grab the bag of the hesperides 16:41 you'll never worry about encumberance again 16:41 i like to never buc-identify mine to easy stacking when i replenish 16:41 sounds like I should maybe go 1 or 2 levels deeper and then go get the BoHesp. 16:41 no, go get the bag now 16:42 never read an un-buc spellbook man 16:42 it doesn't matter all that much, but if you're gonna go deeper I'd recommend going only as deep as the first demon boss 16:42 and you can weight-id them to know their level 16:42 oh man do NOT read unidentified spellbooks 16:43 I have had so many stupid embarassing deaths to finger of death books lying around 16:43 put on your towel 16:43 see whose home it is 16:43 towwweeelllllll 16:44 omigod dude you have chutzpa 16:44 wonder if it's a fun one 16:44 Hmmm, wonder what level this is? Towel time. 16:44 heh 16:44 geryon, no biggie 16:44 boooriiiinggg 16:44 Geryon's level? 16:45 the level itself is now randomized, any boss can have any lair of that level 16:45 but geryon is a boring boss 16:45 @e?geryon 16:45 Geryon (&) | Lvl: 72 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d8 sting drain str, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 16:47 Hmmm, now to get in? 16:47 drawbridge 16:47 far right 16:47 Ah, missedthat, thanks. 16:47 zap it with a wand of striking from 2 spaces away 16:47 or force bolt it 16:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:49 back to the upstairs 16:49 geryon is awake, go back to the upstairs 16:50 wonder if he's got an amulet of magic breathing 16:50 yoo hoo dbanethacker 16:50 he could do the funny water thing 16:50 sure 16:51 full healing? 16:51 noooo 16:51 he ascends with you 16:51 ouch 16:51 you need to fight from the upstairs 16:51 hit him and make him go to upstairs, then go back down to his level 16:51 it's your only hope 16:52 RUN RUN BACK DOWN 16:52 oh thank god 16:52 now you need to go to these upstairs to kill him 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:36564 (17:56:53) 16:52 nice one 16:52 never fight burdened 16:53 you scared the crap out of me 16:53 wait was he burdened? 16:53 once he took the full healing out, yes 16:53 go get the bag of hesperides while my blood pressure goes back down 16:53 Yeah, need that Bag of Hesp perhaps 16:53 phew that was spooky 16:54 yeah go beat up the ice queen and come back with the bag 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Hea Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a carnivorous ape, on T:8710 (6:37:40) 16:54 I need to do some sokoban to calm down 16:54 oh nice I got a random amulet of reflection!! 16:55 now I can go for the tool 16:57 oh my fucking god this coaligned unicorn is absolutely destroying my luck with its crap 16:57 sokoban gave me another gold amulet which a lep just deprived me of 16:57 genocide l 16:57 :) 17:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1785 points, T:1824, killed by a gnome queen 17:02 i don't know what anything is yet -- i'm too parsimonious to use id before i get ahold of holy water, which i have still failed to get 17:02 massive backscroll 17:02 krm26 that is weird 17:03 could you have had negative alignment? 17:03 or is this some weird evilhack thing 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 69222 points, T:14300, killed by a giant beetle, while praying 17:03 dammit 17:03 rip 17:03 nooo :( 17:03 !lastgame 17:03 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1677344566.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1677361771.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1677216205.evil.html 17:03 crushed by a random giant shaman 17:05 K2 if you wear HoOA and you pray for holy water, is there some evilhack thing that the god is not fooled by HoOA or something? 17:06 not that i'm aware of 17:06 because I don't understand what happened to krm26 17:07 what happened 17:07 massive backscroll :b 17:07 looking... 17:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:08 krm26 were you praying while standing on an unaligned altar? 17:09 Splanchomancer? Never heard of that title before. 17:10 "well so much for that plan -- praying lawful on a lawful altar using a hooa angers the god and does NOT bless your potions" 17:10 Oh, it's an infidel 17:10 but I guess you found that sooner than I did 17:11 i didnt 17:11 was just asking because an infidel cant safely pray in the regular dungeon unless they are standing on an unaligned latar 17:11 ah right 17:11 *altar 17:12 dang, lost my / of cancellation. 17:12 so specifically Infidel with HoOA praying on a lawful altar for holy water 17:12 Isn't there a way to put it in a bag of some kind that can then safely be stored in a BoH or maybe the BoHesp? 17:12 without diving into the code - i dont think they can pull off those shenanigans 17:13 because of the not in gehennom rule 17:13 right, maybe krm26 forgot about a previous prayer or wish 17:13 dbanethacker you can try but there's still a risk 17:13 dbanethacker no... 17:13 yeah, best not to risk it. 17:14 ok, well, it'd be nice to find another / of Canc. 17:14 I usually use a non-BoH that I give the letter H 17:14 still not safe, but it helps for me 17:14 Yeah, I guess I should have put it in a sack. 17:14 Ok, always something new to learn about EvilHack 17:15 or vanilla ;-) 17:15 that is not specific to evilhack 17:17 Hmmm, if I forge my arrows of lightning with my steel darts, do they become shuriken of lightning? 17:17 steel shuriken of lightning, that is? 17:18 oh K2 with a HoOA all the regular Infidel rules should not apply 17:19 I think we have some misunderstandings going on :-) 17:19 but bedtime for me now 17:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:21 Another side question - a mind flayer or something brought my Int down to 5. I've tried ! of restore ability but it stays at 5. Besides eating a mind flayer corpse and a blessed ! of enlightenment, or maybe praying at an altar, any other way to restore my Int? I don't like it being such a small number. 17:23 Restore ability should have done it 17:25 Hi K2, are minor bugs allowed today? 17:26 If so, permanent inventory weight capacity display doesn't update when a polyself reverts 17:26 (curses) 17:30 yeah there's a lot of curses based update inv bugs that are fixed in 3.7 17:30 but not in 3.6 17:30 i've fixed some of them but there's quite a few still 17:31 and with the inclusion of obj weights, prob added some minor display bugs like that 17:31 *inclusion of showing obj weights 17:33 Ok, won't pay too much attention to update inv bugs until 3.7 merged! 17:34 Hmmm, I'm on the bridge level in Kathryn's realm. A white dragon just flew into the air next to the cliff. Does that mean with my " of flying that I could do the same and not 'fall' to my death? 17:34 !tell mobileuser if an infidel could wear a HoOA and just negate everything that makes it an infidel, then what's the point? that makes infidel easy mode. I see why Tomsod kept the infidel pray rule in place no matter what :) 17:34 No worries, K2, I've got this! 17:35 Graznop still report them, sometimes there's more serious inventory update bugs 17:35 maybe 17:36 wont know unless its reported :) 17:36 Ok, will do 17:40 Graznop this might be an easy one line fix? 17:40