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(www.adiirc.com)] 04:48 -!- chao is now known as stenno 05:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7094 points, T:4904, killed by an owlbear 06:07 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1106 points, T:1868, quit 06:20 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1764 (0:12:19) 06:28 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2540 points, T:2848, killed by a gnome zombie 06:29 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:41 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1064 (0:15:16) 07:22 hmm, i guess i never realized that a goblin shaman would cast knock at a chest to open it? 07:22 good for him 07:35 hello 07:35 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 07:36 krm26: til 07:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:05 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 08:07 krm26, monsters cant cast knock 08:07 nor can they use wands of opening 08:07 hmm 08:07 the chest could have generated unlocked 08:07 wonder how he got the goblin king chest open then, no unlocking tool on level 08:07 oh, didn't know that! 08:07 (lame) 08:08 * K2 sighs 08:11 i have a fix for the artifacts glowing on/off for every monster kill 08:11 was simple really 08:12 but i'm a bit confused about a thing 08:13 https://termbin.com/2ira 08:14 int usecount is overloaded, it even states that in the comments 08:14 so WTF was it being overloaded in the first place? same with corpsenm 08:15 instead of making a define for these various things, why not just make each an actual int or whatever it needs to be? 08:15 I dont understand 08:18 is it some sort of archaic space-saving method for binary size? 08:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) became literate by reading a book, on T:4744 (1:15:49) 08:23 i assume they did that to avoid breaking saves at the time; ideally none of that stuff should be overloaded 08:23 but yes, there really wouldn't even be a reason to bitfield anything these days 08:24 old farts like me squeeze bits because we used to have to craft each individual bit by hand in the bit mines 08:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:24 i got an explanation from paxed 08:25 memory was critical in the old days, not so much nowadays ok i get that so yes, those could be their own ints. not sure it will fly with the team tho 08:26 i'm changing all of those usecount defines to their own int 08:27 ok so for the nth time :-) while you do that, jam some extra unused ints in there to you can make more unplanned changes at a later date without breaking saves :-) 08:27 in vanilla, the only thing that used usecount was spestudied, but evilhack has added a couple extra along the way 08:27 lol krm26 08:27 seriously you should 08:27 yeagh 08:27 future[5] 08:27 -g 08:28 to make it truely excellent accidentally leave the future data uninitialized so there is crazy unpredicted behavior that is impossible to diagnose once you actually start using the space 08:28 this means int usecount can go away completely 08:29 that's how real programmers rock it 08:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:31 krm26 why did you do this - #define lastwarncnt oeaten 08:33 that could just be 'unsigned lastwarncnt' yeah? 08:41 yup you sure can 08:41 ship it 08:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:43 sorry, was away, but entirely yes 08:44 it was just there to avoid breaking saves because there was no "future" stuff 08:44 (and cuz it had already been used for the same overstuffing purpose by previous bad actors :-) 08:44 * K2 nods 08:44 that may in fact be when i started whining about future vars 08:45 sounds legit 08:45 mmm infidels are so frustrating, i carefully nurture one into some slight survivability and then the champions show up and crush me 08:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/546b8b675185...d32d6efe52fa 08:48 [EvilHack] k21971 d32d6ef - Fix: artifacts warning of monsters would flicker on/off for every monster kill. 08:56 infidels sacrificing and failing to convert an altar count as trying to mollify moloch? 08:57 yes 08:58 well, in the sense of, curing the urge to perform a sacrifice 08:59 "mollify" is technically a different thing 08:59 rightrightright 09:09 ugggh got a blessed magic lamp but i know if i rub it i'll get a loser genie... 09:10 negative nancy 09:10 rub it 09:10 RUB IT 09:10 temptress 09:10 doo eeet 09:10 not even sure what i would wish for that would help me...need to convert this goddamn altar 09:11 without running out of food 09:11 are you missing mr or reflection? 09:11 i found a lucky amulet of reflection, no mr 09:11 or perhaps a nice alhoon hat 09:11 haven't touched sokoban yet 09:11 oh i'm never getting to see an alhoon, i always die to fragility before i get to the quest 09:13 in like 50 (throwaway, incautious) games i have yet to come across any offense better than shitty daggerstorm 09:14 hah game just gave me a blessed smoky potion too 09:15 its a sign 09:16 fyi - alhoon hats are also anti-zombo hats 09:17 dammit, the smoky potion might by poly so i don't wanna drink it 09:18 DRINK IT 09:18 i'm beginning to suspect you might not have my best interests at heart 09:18 hahah surely you jest 09:19 live a little, take risks 09:20 go big or go home, son 09:20 sprinkle some +5 on that wish 09:23 i've gradually moved up to +3 but never dared to reach for a +5 09:23 when it works, its an awesome feeling 09:23 that's the kind of wish people who get a second artifact in 7 wishes make 09:23 i'm not one of those people 09:24 I still <3 you 09:25 ❤️ 09:25 you know there is no monospaced font with good unicode coverage 09:25 really irritating 09:26 windows autosubs in non-monospace substitutions for missing codepoints 09:26 makes using cool weird glyphs in nethack far too platform-specific to consider which is too bad 09:28 so just to double-check, on a non-chaotic altar as a human infidel, i can sacrifice a wererat with no issues? 09:28 Within reason, bjh21 will probably add any glyph you really want to Bedstead :-) 09:28 it is only the chaotic altars that will poof on me? 09:30 i'm not sure he'd be up to that, Pinkbeast, i want all the glyphs 09:30 Do you _use_ all the glyphs? 09:30 of course not. all the glyphs wont even fit in a single font, i think you need 2 or 3 these days 09:31 but i want to not have to worry about what glyph i use :-) 09:31 I mean, I have about 3 me-specific choices in my (whispers) .crawlrc 09:32 WWMD 09:32 ^ what would mobileuser do 09:32 so k2, human infidel sacrificing wererat on neutral altar -- will not disappear? but will potentially summon an irritating peaceful demon? 09:32 is that how it works? 09:33 i think so 09:33 i dont remember 09:33 should prob check in pray.c 09:33 okdokey 09:34 krm26 only chaotic altars go poof when saccing same race 09:34 that's just the vanilla rule 09:35 you just notice that vanilla rule more easily as infidel 09:35 ^ resident infidel expert 09:35 i have yet to ascend one, i probably should do that 09:36 so mobileuser blesses my wererat sacrifice to attempt to convert this neutral altar? 09:36 human infidel sacrificing wererat on neutral altar is fine, I think the first time no irritating peaceful demon is generated 09:36 alright i'll give it a go 09:36 although it probably took me too long to carry that crap here 09:36 of course there could be revenge from the neutral god 09:36 krm26 is an infidel, he can handle it 09:37 ooh that worked nicely 09:37 earth elemental would be fatal for me, fire elemental a joke 09:37 first time in many runs no revenge tho 09:37 for same race sac, the freshness doesn't matter 09:37 a human zombie would have worked too 09:37 no way! how do you know this stuff 09:37 haha! 09:38 \o/ 09:38 does same race always molochify, or was i just amazingly lucky this time? 09:38 RUB IT 09:38 always works 09:38 jebus 09:38 i will rub nothing 09:38 lol 09:39 a bit of a challenge for giant, centaur and illithid infidels :-) 09:40 lol what a backscroll 09:41 heh 09:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:7945 (2:42:09) 10:17 is it me or did reddit lose its mind? 10:17 well, i mean, reddit is just another form of social media, so yes -- but what specifically? 10:17 shit wont load 10:17 layout is different 10:18 its like they did a significant update and its borked a bit 10:18 hmm, works fine for me, but i use classic 10:18 blaspheme 10:18 cuz the new sh*t s*x 10:26 man it is aggravating to not be able to get ahold of holy water 10:28 yeah that is a real challenge for infidel 10:29 find an NPC priest :-) 10:29 or luck into blessed remove curse 10:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:36 damn i hate super-deep oracles 10:38 material vulnerabilities should show up in monster lookup 10:45 @e?balrog 10:45 balrog (&) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical | Align: -14 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, infravis, silverhate 10:47 (sorry, in-game) 10:47 "/?balrog" 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:11952 (4:17:18) 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2080 (0:08:42) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) became literate by reading a book, on T:3443 (0:17:59) 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) destroyed Gutso's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:3904 (0:21:18) 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a shield of mobility entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:14656 (4:58:32) 12:05 come onnnnn you know i'm an infidel! bone small shield of mobility you shmuck 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:4787 (0:36:03) 12:39 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:17746 (5:40:11) 12:57 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 13:00 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #evilhack 13:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:02 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:04 Hi all - I'm seeing a room with 9 mind flayers and a neothelid. Any advice on how to not get my brain sucked dry? 13:05 ... 13:05 it happened! 13:05 \o/ 13:05 eh? 13:05 dbanethacker, i think you're the first player to ever encounter a neothelid in an actual game 13:06 they are super rare 13:06 Oh, lucky me ! 13:06 ok so 13:06 neothelids are mind flayer larva that went rogue 13:06 mind flayers grudge them, they'll actually attack them 13:07 however 13:07 Yeah - no such luck - they're avoiding it. 13:07 neothelids are extremely powerful 13:07 imagine a purple worm and a mind flayer had a baby, that can also breathe acid like a yellow dragon 13:08 I need to get some boulders to bar the doorless opening 13:08 @e? neothelid 13:08 neothelid (w) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: acid | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 breath acid, 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 6d6 engulf digest | Align: -8 | carnivore, swims, nopoly 13:08 have fun 13:08 no wand of locking. 13:09 Loggers is gonna be pissed that he's not here to see this 13:09 yeah, I'll let you know. I'm not as worried now about the mind flayers as I am about their child. 13:09 I can wait for him. 13:09 hah 13:09 are you able to avoid it, or are you going to have to face it 13:10 and are you wearing the magic hat 13:10 If it matters, I am an 18th level monk. 13:10 Dragonhide helm of speed. What's the "magic hat" ? 13:10 oilskin 13:10 proof against brain drain 13:10 I guess not. 13:10 grease your helm, next best thing 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1622 (0:42:27) 13:11 it's already greased. 13:11 ...it has too many attacks and too much speed, grease isn't gonna help all that much 13:11 ok good. keep your can of grease handy 13:11 i mean, better than nothing 13:11 but it wouldn't be out of MY rng to lose the grease and a point of int on the first round 13:11 Oh ok, so a special nursery is just a 1 in 10 chance for a regular flayer nursery, but that must still be pretty rare 13:12 sure. I need my boulders - they weighed me down a bit before I found Loggers' BoH so I have to go locate/find them again. 13:15 Hmmm, side note - I feel weak and foolish but yet my spell of restore ability doesn't fix my loss of strength level, etc. ? 13:16 ring of sustain ability? 13:17 are you wearing one? 13:18 if you only have basic it'll fix a random stat 13:18 perhaps not the one you're looking at 13:19 hey this dwarf just dropped dramborleg dammit 13:19 what good is that to a scuzzy infidel 13:19 it is gonna zap me when i try to pick it up isn't it 13:19 yup 13:20 I have 2 rings of sustain ability - didn't think about that. 13:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:22 neothelid encounter?? 13:22 did I miss it?? is it dead?? 13:22 Yeah - I'm trying to prep for it. 13:22 haha yes 13:22 No it's not dead - it's a number of levels below me. 13:22 this is very topical rng I was just talking about these things yesterday 13:22 My best thought is to throw boulders at it from a distance - no magic hat 13:23 yes thats good 13:23 sounds like a good idea 13:23 range attack = good 13:23 and boulders do a lot of damage 13:23 yeah, locking it in place with boulders and shurikening or bouldering it would be peachy 13:23 Yeah - I mentioned it here and K2's first reaction was that you're going to be pissed for missing it. 13:23 you can engage it in melee if you want to die 13:23 lol 13:23 Hmm, not interested. 13:23 :P 13:23 no balls 13:24 now you have to do it 13:24 Hmm, we'll see. 13:24 no, I said 'no balls' 13:24 you HAVE to 13:24 I have to beat the 9 mind flayers first. 13:24 when someone says 'no balls' you do it or, contrary to popular belief, you combust violently and suddenly 13:25 damn 9 mind flayers is scary 13:25 wearing a ring of sustain ability - is that defense enough against losing Intelligence points? 13:25 yep 13:25 Ok, then what's the risk agains the Neo... ? 13:25 you will still get amnesia but I believe you will not get your brain eaten away 13:26 idk if you noticed but it kind of is slightly powerful in melee 13:26 @e?neothelid 13:26 neothelid (w) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: acid | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 breath acid, 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 6d6 engulf digest | Align: -8 | carnivore, swims, nopoly 13:26 Eh? Who are you? Why am I in a dungeon? 13:26 also don't quote me on the sustain ability thing 13:26 I'm gonna check wiki to be sure 13:26 Ok, K2 - can you confirm? 13:27 ok wiki says it works 13:27 as long as you don't have int 3 you should be fine I think 13:27 I have a / of cancellation. I wonder what that would do? 13:28 Yeah I'm not looking forward to amnesia, though. 13:28 ah you're monk 13:28 amnesia is horrible for monk 13:28 a Giant monk 13:28 does that change anything 13:29 besides boulders 13:29 Not much - it just means I can throw boulders. 13:29 I guess I could burn a few wands instead. 13:29 ok I hate to say it but I kind of think melee'ing it would result in 13:29 hu 13:29 uh 13:29 death 13:31 oh? the ring isn't enough? 13:31 Cancellation won't do much. It probably stops the acid attack 13:31 that'll be nice. 13:31 or a start, at least. 13:31 just melee it and if you get your shit kicked in throw boulders 13:32 With polycontrol you could black dragon it 13:32 there's an idea. 13:33 I could poly into a black dragon 13:33 that would be cool 13:33 hmm, could I poly into a neothelid instead? 13:33 no 13:34 not valid polyform 13:34 part of the reason why no one's seen one ever 13:36 out of everything, black dragon poly is probably the easiest way to go 13:36 help with the flayers too 13:37 i dont think you need to poly 13:37 you have sustain ability, that's huge 13:37 cant be engulfed 13:37 what offensive spells do you have available? 13:40 36% fail rate for force bolt and sleep 13:41 sleep is not a totally foregone conclusion actually 13:41 No resistance but 60 MR 13:41 force bolts might unironically be an option 13:42 locust polyform! 13:42 pff 13:42 if you could manage to not get immediately eviscerated it would be funny 13:45 either way I think you'll be ok just go kill it 13:46 oh yeah you also have speed advantage over it 13:46 though, not as big as normal 13:50 oh shit 13:50 there was a hidden door and it blew apart, I think. 13:51 uh oh 13:51 now kill! 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby yellow dragon, on T:20607 (6:31:14) 13:52 darnit 13:52 :/ 13:53 what happened? polytrap? 13:53 wow 13:53 that was a lot of boulders 13:53 did you guys see that? 13:54 yeah 13:54 I had 22 boulders to begin with. 13:54 I have 1 left. I think 1 blew apart at the beginning. 13:54 that's... what, 20 d20s? 13:54 yeah i was doing super-careful searching but somehow boofed a polytrap 13:54 and I had to spell it to sleep to keep it in 1 spot. 13:55 @?e boulder 13:55 No such monster. 13:55 hah 13:55 not sure - we'd have to wiki it to be sure. 13:55 boulders are d20 13:55 but yes, the neothelid is DEAD 13:55 \o/ 13:56 \o/ 13:56 It confers nothing so eating it is pointless. 13:56 what??? you have to eat it!!! 13:57 ok, let's see what that does, then. 13:57 hahah 13:57 You feel guilty. You have a very bad case of stomach acid. 13:57 Sometimes I try to eat at least one of every monster I come across as a "conduct™" 13:57 nothing else. (grin) 13:57 eating monsters is fun 13:57 When I'm not playing monk anyway 13:58 ok, well, it's also odd that it could move around despite my boulders being there. I guess it went over them? 13:58 what a wild coincidence that someone got a neothelid spawn right after we were talking about it yesterday 13:58 uh 13:58 Merry Christmas, all ! 13:59 uh oh -- neothelids don't respect boulders? fun 13:59 I think they do, but dbanethacker gradually cornered it with them 14:00 not that I saw. I guess I was lucky that he moved away from me when hit by a boulder. I wasn't in "sight" of him to be sure. 14:00 which is why it wasn't chasing him after a while 14:00 Yeah - I was too far away to see that I had built a wall of boulders. 14:01 I like that throwing a boulder lobs it over the other boulders - otherwise it'd be a whole different outcome. 14:01 Ok, I still have those mind flayers to beat. Plus I'm full, so eating them is dangerous. Got to go waste a number of moves doing something else for awhile. 14:01 I mean it's not like you have to eat them 14:02 the Int boost is tempting I'll admit 14:03 yeah - nice to have a lower fail rate of all my spells, my Int is only 12 14:03 you can synthesize gain ability that said 14:04 Sure - if I had enough gain energy potions and a few healing-related ones just lying around. Unless there's a faster way? 14:04 I never find many gain energy potions (sob) in my games. 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:28830 (4:38:10) 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28870 (4:38:40) 14:06 k2 the tortle "hide under the water and stab everyone" strategy hasn't been fixed yet, right? 14:07 no it hasnt. that wont be addressed until next version 14:07 ok 14:07 there wont be anymore update to current/live version unless some weird critical game breaking bug is found 14:07 ugh someone has been polymorphing -- frost salamander, green dragon, and VORPAL JABBERWOCK in the gnomish mines 14:07 you got this 14:08 i can barely kill giant beetles, i'm leaving 14:08 polymorph mines shenanigans are funny 14:08 at least I always think they are until I get massacred 14:08 krm26, if I say 'no balls' you'll have to take them on 14:09 yes, i'm reliving high school 14:09 and my military days 14:09 (which wasnt too long ago) 14:12 i'm all for finagling difficult out-of-level challenges but there is only one thing i could do, and that is a wand of death with an unknown and maybe 0 number of charges i'm saving for my last gasp 14:13 yeah 14:13 i totally do not expect you to tangle with those 14:13 my armor is a burnt +- pair of gauntlets of protection, a +1 stone orcish helm, and a cursed shield of mobility that prevents me from casting. no boots, no armor, no cloak (rusted + polyd off) 14:14 and i'm swinging a +0 sword short or a stack of +0 daggers 14:14 so i'm truly a powerhouse 14:14 :) 14:14 fully utilied out but with no offense or defense 14:14 Hmmm, a room all with shallow water? I wonder why? 14:14 climate change 14:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:30367 (4:58:50) 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:31009 (5:09:19) 14:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:49 Go Loggers_VIII ! 14:50 it is time to see if juiblex can swim 14:50 @e?piranha 14:50 piranha (;) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 bite physical, 2d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, oviparous, passes-bars 14:50 @e?juiblex 14:50 Juiblex (&) | Lvl: 50 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison acid petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 65 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d10 engulf disease, 3d6 spit acid, 4d6 touch acid, 2d6 cast clerical, 0d1 passive acid, 4d6 suicide explode acid | Align: -15 | flies, amorphous, amphibious, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, passes-bars 14:51 hm, that's weird- bag of hesperides isn't giving me MC 14:51 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:54 you sure? 14:54 you don't already have something giving you the +1mc? 14:55 oh do they not stack? 14:55 but no, I don't think I have anything else giving MC 14:56 i think the bag is no different than wearing a ring of protection 14:57 hm... that's weird. on all my monk runs I wore a cloak of MR and used the bag to get MC:2 14:57 I remember it stacking then 14:59 hmm, maybe i'm wrong 14:59 oh I think I see what's happening 14:59 @e?Yeenoghu 15:00 Yeenoghu (&) | Lvl: 56 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison magic drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 3d6 weapon physical, 2d8 weapon confuse, 1d6 claw paralyze, 6d6 cast magic missile | Align: -15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 15:00 I must have gotten intrinsic protection from prayer, which doesn't stack with other sources 15:01 MC seems like a real challenge to get as tortle 15:02