00:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:37541 (13:12:15) 02:43 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:44 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 02:44 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 02:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:46 -!- xade has joined #evilhack 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:37837 (13:21:02) 02:48 -!- xade has quit [Client Quit] 02:48 -!- estrodjinn51 has joined #evilhack 02:49 -!- xade has joined #evilhack 02:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37863 (13:22:54) 02:50 if a role has guaranteed first sacrifice gift in vanilla, will it always receive it in first sacrifice gift of Evilhack? Or there is still chance of receiving non-artifact gifts, and the "first sac gift" only work when player rolled into an artifact gift 02:52 -!- estrodjinn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:52 good question 02:53 I know that the chances of first guaranteed gift are high, not sure if you could still get a non-arti gift first 02:54 I would think so 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) refused to give up The Eyes of the Overworld to Master Po, on T:38390 (13:34:50) 03:04 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a floating eye corpse on an altar of Ptah, on T:3038 (0:21:41) 03:17 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4215 points, T:5834, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:17 -!- xade has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 03:19 IIRC there was a time I sac'd as a Valk but didn't get Mojo immediately. 03:20 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of cloth low boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:43607 (18:20:06) 03:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a gold dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:44447 (18:25:00) 03:43 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5 points, T:19, killed by life drainage 03:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:46071 (18:37:21) 03:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47737 (18:44:17) 03:58 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 07:15 guaranteed first sac gift does not mean you will get that for your vert first sac gift. it just means it'll be your first artifact sac gift. you could still get non artifact sac gifts first 07:15 in fact, if you're exp level 1 or 2, that's all you'll get is non artifact gifts 07:15 gotta be exp level 3 or higher to start getting artifact gifts 07:27 Is that a vanilla thing, or is that one of the earlier EvilHack changes you made 07:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a steel scimitar entrusted to her by Crom, on T:75551 (23:51:53) 07:46 crom has my dragonbane wedged soooooo far up his butt 08:01 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Crom, on T:77449 (1 day, 0:10:12) 08:05 That's what you get for smacktalking Crom 08:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:10 crom wins! 40k turns is all i'm gonna use up 08:10 i draw the line at 200 holy water in ogre loot 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:78100 (1 day, 0:18:30) 08:15 \o/ 08:16 i have given my scrolls of enchant weapon a color-coded alert for stupid people so let's see if i can manage to keep this sword alive 08:16 Umbire - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sacrifice#Gifts 08:20 my new rule is also only ever use scrolls of enchant armor empty handed 08:22 hey krm26 08:22 hey k2 08:22 will you be my valentine? 08:22 you know, this year was the first year my daughter didn't ask me! (she's 12 now) 08:22 dont read too much into it, just asking you in front of qt to make him jealous 08:22 so i'm available! 08:22 aww 08:22 lol 08:23 my wife is off at crystal river as the ridealong vet for manatee assessments so i'm left all on my own 08:23 when did she turn 12? 08:23 she's a late june baby 08:23 gotcha 08:23 mini-me" 08:23 so about a year and a half older than yours? 08:23 'i'm a tween now daddy, hahahah' 08:23 yeah 08:24 i hope that wasn't evil laughter 08:24 but i know it was 08:24 what else is there? 08:24 but evilness 08:24 mine came home from school last friday and told me i owed her a big bowl of ice cream because the boys were extra stupid that day and she had not punched any of them 08:25 smart 08:31 hmm..potion wish..gjallar? pyec? neutral has so many nice options 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed gjallar", on T:78689 (1 day, 0:39:42) 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:78689 (1 day, 0:40:29) 08:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:33 pyec isnt as special if you're not a tourist imo 08:34 two potions in a row! alas no card 08:34 k2 you blasphemer 08:34 i stand by what I said :P 08:34 it is still fun, i have edible increase damage rings this run 08:34 and it is so light! i judge based on weight 08:35 what do you think about the orb of fate :P 08:35 its awesome 08:35 gjallar is 8,000 times better 08:35 except its no longer in evilhack :P 08:35 what the 08:35 i can see undead and molds telepathically? 08:36 krm26 how is gjallar better? 08:36 is this some weird esp/gjallar combination 08:36 uh that is weird 08:36 1. gjallar is light 08:36 2. gjaller will wake vecna 08:36 but like 08:36 i don't know what is going on with being able to see this stuff 08:36 hmm 08:36 oh nevermind, im an idiot 08:37 lol 08:37 my smoky potion was monster detection :-) 08:37 monster detection? 08:37 hah knew it 08:37 what's the last level the oracle can spawn on? 08:38 9 08:38 9 i think 08:39 thought so 08:39 man carrying glamdring around is annoying 08:39 orc priests hate me 08:40 * Pinkbeast automatically says HAR HAR HAR before remembering these are NetHack orc priests 08:40 Loggers_VIII, glamdring cost me a game. was wielding it and entered a shop with an orcish shopkeeper 08:40 actually i cost myself the game 08:41 but yeah 08:41 I gotta get a bag or something 08:41 actually, I did have one 08:41 but I dropped it because it was too heavy 08:51 can centaur players be engulfed? 08:52 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) had a large shield entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:38636 (13:00:53) 08:56 yes 08:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8072 (1:20:34) 08:59 alright! time to go black dragoning with this thing 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 16852 points, T:8433, killed by a dwarf lady 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:959 (0:04:23) 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:41842 (13:11:35) 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:79705 (1 day, 1:16:05) 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 2883 points, T:1914, killed by a gnome lady 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:43055 (13:16:27) 09:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:43620 (13:25:21) 09:26 why do my tourists keep starting with like 20 gold >:( 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 144 points, T:356, killed by a gecko 09:28 i just showed up on dl29 for the first time, not having brought a pet deeper than 15 -- and there is a team cockatrice running around stoning stuff for me 09:28 team/tame 09:28 random TAME monster? never seen that 09:29 really? never? 09:29 peaceful walks over a polytrap 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 351 points, T:482, killed by a giant bat 09:29 it isn't just peaceful. it is tame 09:29 where did it start? near you, or the other side of the level? 09:29 middle of the level, not near me 09:30 oooh 09:30 could it be a former pet of yours that stepped on a level teleporter and then on a polytrap 09:30 It's a monster figurine 09:30 i bet a monster activated a figurine 09:30 oh yeah that makes sense 09:30 and got a bad rng roll 09:30 that's gotta be it 09:30 that is weird, somebody else can activate a figure and it becomes MY pet? 09:31 yes 09:31 iirc if a monster activates a figurine the odds are reversed from the hero 09:31 I'm gonna regret taking this cockatrice around with me 09:31 so if it's cursed, and it would have become hostile when the hero activates it 09:31 just like when the player activates a figurine and there's a chance it'll be hostile - same for monsters doing it 09:31 it becoems "hostile" to the monster -> tame 09:33 intriguing 09:33 btw are centaurs engulfable? i don't remember 09:33 i assume they are 09:33 yes 09:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:34 man, mc3 my ass, everything that looks at me funny is disenchanting and canceling me 09:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:15624 (3:44:19) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:44422 (13:46:21) 09:43 hmm. maybe i just don't NEED reflection any more 09:46 (takes off reflection, takes a ring out of the bag, ZAP gets hit by lighting, BOOM) 09:47 i mean, i'm indoctrinated into using it, but once you have full resists and mr, not to mention angelslayer...eh? 09:48 Reflection is overrated lategame 09:48 what am i forgetting that will screw me? because having to continually swap around rings for lev is DEFINITELY gonna kill me 09:48 So you lose a ring or wand or two, who needs em? 09:48 my freedom is phul, too, so it shouldn't get dusted by those effects 09:50 oh crap, i can't use the sword of annihilation againsts vecna, can i? godDAMNit 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5325 (0:40:24) 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:81927 (1 day, 2:03:12) 09:57 finally pulled it out of his ass 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:45240 (14:01:56) 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45242 (14:01:58) 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing her quest, on T:45459 (14:02:48) 09:58 yeah screw that artifact! 09:59 Straight in the bin 09:59 make it a spoon like other variants do 09:59 a spoon! that is a great idea 09:59 -!- estrodjinn51 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:59 or just a tin opener, since it already exists 10:01 fits with "Liberation" 10:02 liberate food from tins 10:03 or to keep it heavy but not CRAZY heavy, make it a tinning kit 10:04 why couldnt you use the SoA against vecna? 10:05 i want his drop 10:06 ah 10:06 so you *could* you just dont want to 10:06 although i DID finally get dragonbane so now i don't care as much 10:07 yeah most things you kill mid/late game you don't really care if they take their inventory with them when they go, but vecna is hard to pass up if you need gloves 10:09 anyone have any clever tricks for turning back after cubing to eat wooden rings? 10:09 I bet Vecna would be happy to turn you back 10:11 :) 10:11 prayer 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:46422 (14:19:30) 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:14813 (2:45:51) 10:19 noooo 10:19 next thing you know you'll be stuffing your face with pulled pork 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law), 20186 points, T:14975, quit 10:26 :-( 10:29 > figurines activated by monsters coming out tame to the hero -- just in case petless conduct wasn't randomfail enough 10:29 ouch! hadn't thought of that 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1404 (0:06:54) 10:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:30 this is the way 10:31 worse, you could have petless broken for you and never know about it 10:31 unless you checked #conduct 10:32 maybe do a thing like the astral angel where if the hero is petless monsters will never come out tame from a monster-activated or randomly-activated figurine? 10:33 !lastgame gutso 10:33 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Gutso/evilhack/dumplog/1676235987.evil.html 10:34 why'd he quit?? 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2938 points, T:2651, killed by a bolt of cold 10:36 i dunno! wish he hadn't left the channel 10:36 I'm gonna send him mail 10:37 ...he doesn't seem to know he can communicate back using the extended command menu 10:37 i forget how to do that 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:510 (0:03:05) 10:39 noo :( 10:41 I assume because he broke vegan 10:41 can't resist the yummy wraiths 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 408 points, T:1067, killed by a giant mimic 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:888 (0:11:22) 10:45 that's probably why 10:45 conducts as a monk are special 10:49 i feel like i'm gonna regret not using sword of kas...oh well 10:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:51 krm26 why wouldn't you use sword of kas? 10:51 you must have some enchant weapon scrolls after all that ogre farming 10:52 comparing unskilled kas with skilled dual annihilation/vorpal 10:52 so i've in a video chat with my work buddy down in the FL office. he knows enough about IT, I can walk him through things. we're setting up a new WAP in the server room so I can program it before it's properly deployed. as he's showing me the switch stack so I can see what port he's going to use, I see starlink hardware bolted to the wall below it 10:52 why keep it unskilled? 10:52 no one told IT that office started using starlink 10:52 heh 10:53 they are smuggling in alternate internet without telling you? mmmm 10:53 yup 10:53 they wanna play games, we can play games 10:53 i know exactly who authorized the install too 10:53 avoiding the whole running around skilling up something just for a single monster 10:54 shitbag VP of accounting who's been complaining about the wireless in that building, we told him we had a solution enroute, seems he wasnt patient 10:54 where the hell are they that they need starlink in a stationary location anyway? weird 10:54 time to court martial him 10:54 it's like training for The Eye of the Vecna krm26. qt even wrote a song about it. 10:55 krm26 it takes like four seconds to level to basic 10:55 i hate gray dragons so much 10:55 plus it does double damage to all liches 10:56 who cares about other liches? 10:56 me :) 10:56 sword of kas is the way to go 10:56 plus won't you disintegrate the prize? 10:56 yes i am almost certainly going to disintegrate the prize 10:57 but that saves me from difficult decisions 10:57 but if you get the eye it's free half magic damage for no cost 10:57 plus astral vision 10:57 already dual wielding with angelslayer so not so exciting 10:58 if you get astral vision you can ditch the magic lamp that you are still carrying for some reason 10:58 i love lampy! 10:58 accounting in the FL office has no record of a starlink contract 10:58 this just keeps getting better 10:58 installing personal gear in the workspace! uh ohhhh 10:59 document document document 10:59 ugh oh fine going back for the sword 11:00 i wish gray dragons cold only cancel your weapon when you hit them, what a pita 11:00 we're going to power it down and see who complains 11:01 this is deemed as a security risk (rogue internet service installed in the office without IT authorization or knowledge) 11:02 -!- estrodjinn has joined #evilhack 11:02 drama in the workspace 11:02 present to the ceo on how dangerous it is and how whatever corporate spy or stooge installed it should be fired without including any info on the vp doing it 11:03 maybe there's a spy from elon musk in the company 11:03 after buying, identify vp 11:03 buy-ing, buying, i'm spoonerizing all pover the lace 11:03 it's connected to a chinese balloon I bet 11:04 lol 11:05 K2 you should shoot a sidewinder missile into the FL server room 11:06 The FL office just wants to play other variants without being judged by K2 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:83735 (1 day, 3:17:18) 11:11 DAMMIT, see, this is why i wanted to accidentally disintegrate him 11:11 jesus christ aphrodite's on level six 11:11 now i have the hand and i have to give up dragonbane 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 3300 points, T:3147, quit 11:12 hell yeah 11:12 the hand is so good 11:12 as a bonus, it's not edible 11:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 196 points, T:284, killed by a coyote 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:84087 (1 day, 3:25:49) 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1437 (0:08:49) 11:20 can i level teleport out of vecna's level once he's dead, or is it always no-go? 11:22 I don't know 11:22 it wouldn't be much of a help since it's a branch, but if you've got scrolls to burn try it 11:23 I would assume it's a "mysterious force" rather than "demonic force" 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a short sword entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:1462 (0:16:17) 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1699 (0:11:27) 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:48679 (15:11:49) 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:48706 (15:12:16) 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:48772 (15:15:30) 11:40 @e?baalzebub 11:40 Baalzebub (&) | Lvl: 89 | Diff: 45 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 4d6 bite drain str, 2d6 gaze stun, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 11:40 @?baalzebub 11:40 Baalzebub (&) | Lvl: 89 | Diff: 45 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 2d6 bite drain str, 2d6 gaze stun | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 11:41 heh, shoulda suspected the 4d6 cast clerical 11:41 classic 11:41 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 11:47 -!- estrodjinn has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4034 (0:24:12) 11:48 -!- estrodjinn has joined #evilhack 12:02 -!- estrodjinn66 has joined #evilhack 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed rusty eye of the aethiopica", on T:50258 (15:42:43) 12:05 -!- estrodjinn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Robert the Lifer, on T:50501 (15:44:20) 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) permanently converted to neutral, on T:50747 (15:46:51) 12:17 -!- estrodjinn66 is now known as estrodjinn 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Grumbar, on T:51277 (15:57:19) 12:34 K2: does the fl office not have... cellular internet? why pick starlink over that instead of like, phone tethering 12:34 i found out what it was for 12:34 inb4 vp is a giant elon stan 12:34 the alarm system there did an upgrade, they're using starlink for comms 12:35 that's not us, but the building landlord 12:37 had my guy trace the wires coming out of the starlink panel, they all went to the alarm panel 12:39 Oh hey didn't a bunch of those satellites get shot down by the us during a launch like a week ago 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had a dragonhide cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Grumbar, on T:52471 (16:20:12) 12:44 no 12:44 the objects that were shot down were not in space 12:56 -!- estrodjinn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Grumbar, on T:52718 (16:34:51) 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6360 points, T:4370, killed by a piranha 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Grumbar, on T:53015 (16:40:43) 13:04 -!- estrodjinn has joined #evilhack 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1059 (0:05:29) 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a lynx, on T:4805 (0:26:36) 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 5502 points, T:4882, poisoned by a dwarf zombie 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Grumbar, on T:53733 (16:57:37) 13:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:21 half way there! 13:21 haha yes thank you evilhack I actually wanted to get oneshotted on a diceroll to a zombie I couldn't see >:( 13:21 Every dark corridor always contains a zombie 13:21 ashmar is the best :) 13:21 I was blind!!! 13:22 This happens every time I roll a caster 13:22 Pain suffering, etc. Sometimes I even get a "there's a zombie on the level" warning! 13:22 this is why poison instadeath is being removed in vanilla btw :) 13:23 but I guess it's evil so I can live with it in evilhack 13:23 a reason was never given why it was removed from vanilla 13:23 as far as i know 13:24 get your poison res up to 35%, no more poison instadeath FYI 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:84520 (1 day, 3:49:05) 13:24 sometimes that's not feasible :( 13:24 whatever whatever I'll get over it 13:24 The dungeon is a cruel place 13:25 I'm ok with the dungeon being cruel 13:27 but instantly wiping because the rng decided so is lame 13:29 not really. can happen irl too 13:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:33 heh 13:33 I have yet to get the opinions of anyone affected, so until then it's debatable whether or not they enjoyed the experience 13:33 haha 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Gutso's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:4026 (0:32:58) 13:35 well no one enjoys being killed, in any form or method (except post163) 13:36 its just one of those pitfalls you need to try and avoid if you can (and you can) 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had a bone helm of speed entrusted to her by Grumbar, on T:54441 (17:14:28) 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4241 (0:35:50) 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:85446 (1 day, 4:04:30) 13:40 eh, personally I've had enough "undetectable monster has just oneshot you, DYWYPI?" to consider it bad design 13:41 undetectable? 13:41 I've made my peace with evilhack having it forever, but I reserve my right to whine about it :) 13:41 i've been autostoned twice with slow tortles by beholders. BUT, both times, if I had warning, I woulda been able to avoid it 13:41 I reserve my right to defend it :) 13:41 it is what it is 13:41 krm26 we looked at your last game when the beholder stoned you, you made an unforced error :( 13:42 i don't think so? the first time, i had a single round. eat, restone, single round, eat, restone, instead put on blindfold, statue 13:43 you were going to eat the lizard and dint, went upstairs instead. stoned 13:43 *didnt 13:43 you need two rounds to escape, one to break line of sight and one to eat 13:43 i guess he could have blown his restone chance 13:44 my first experience taught me to give up 13:44 beholders are slow enough, odds are in your favor that you could nible on a lizard corpse and still have time to blind yourself 13:47 What's the gaze attack defense, AC doesn't seem relevant. Do they have any kind of saving roll? 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6283 (0:53:12) 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Grumbar, on T:54866 (17:28:29) 13:51 Alllllllmost there 13:52 eyes of the overworld protect you from lots of gaze attacks 13:54 @e?gnome zombie 13:54 gnome zombie (Z) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 2 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d5 claw drain con, 1d2 bite drain int | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous, stalker 13:55 best way to fend off gaze attacks is to be blind 13:56 to be fair, some roles will pretty much need to see to detect a beholder 13:57 no warning no detect monster ! or + is annoying 13:58 why can't you see them on telepathy anyway? from what I remember about dnd beholders are very smart, definitely have minds 13:59 you can see beholders via warning 13:59 and they'll always show as a 5 no matter what 13:59 their initial implementation, they're flagged as mindless so they couldnt be seen via telepathy 14:00 yeah for roles+races who get warning they're no problem but my tourists have been taking sneaking peeks to see them lol 14:00 there's a guaranteed source of warning fairly early in the game. your choice whether to get it or not 14:01 wait really?? 14:01 yup 14:01 all signs point to yes 14:01 :) 14:01 what, pray tell :) 14:01 terrapin dropped the hint 14:01 idk about how feasible it is to get it "fairly early" 14:01 hm 14:02 Early enough for beholder purposes 14:02 yeah i guess that's true 14:02 is there just a guaranteed ring somewhere? 14:02 no if you kill the oracle she has an artifact that gives warning 14:03 oh 8 ball gives warning? 14:03 yup 14:03 guess I never noticed on my monks 14:03 Really one should get the 8ball when gel cubes are starting, but that's not always possible 14:04 but... I don't want to kill the oracle :( 14:04 ok that's a lie I kill her all the time 14:04 i never kill the oracle but sometimes my pets go crazy 14:04 murderer penalty is annoying but by then I'd probably have PYEC for telepathy 14:04 if you get a wish does the 8 ball disappear? 14:05 yes 14:05 but the chance is practically nil of that happening 14:05 unusable, shaking my smh 14:05 i like to play with the 8 ball a lot just to see the answers for fun and i've never gotten one 14:06 I once held down the 'a' key for like an hour and got nothing 14:06 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Artifacts - see 'magic 8-ball' 14:06 k2 knows what he's doing with that chance :) 14:07 would cause me less grief if it was removed, my greedy spirit can't resist 14:07 muhahahah 14:08 @e?oracle 14:08 Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 14:09 she's not a pushover in evilhack 14:09 yeah pegasi like to murder themselves on the oracle 14:09 yeah I vaguely remember one of my dragon pets oneshotting her and getting oneshot himself 14:09 seems like a fun mid game challenge 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:86505 (1 day, 4:36:34) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:86516 (1 day, 4:36:49) 14:12 i'm picturing krm26 disintegrating everything in his path and laughing like a maniac 14:13 krm26 don't evaporate SoA before you get the chance to oneshot luci with it 14:13 disintegrating is great, it partially frees me from my ocd having to pick up everything 14:13 lol 14:13 * K2 nerfs the SoA by changing it to 'the tin opener of annihilation' 14:14 i kinda want to bug a game by disintegrating the wizard or vlad with an invocation item 14:14 I've used SoA a couple times now and can safely say that I hate it because it frees me from my OCD of needing everything an enemy has 14:14 that's the trade off 14:14 uber awesome weapon, but eh loot? 14:14 I'm rejecting it now 14:14 my tourist ascension will be with cleaver 14:14