00:11 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:14094 (4:52:50) 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:16067 (5:42:28) 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a staff of matter entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:16565 (5:50:16) 01:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:17136 (6:01:49) 01:35 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to 0.8.1 [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/ee35cd5f18ea...a60d23161fcc 01:35 [EvilHack] k21971 a60d231 - Fix: do not allow the Idol of Moloch to be cancelled. 01:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e4a9e958a681...36c6f90fffd8 01:40 [EvilHack] k21971 36c6f90 - Merge branch '0.8.1' of github.com:k21971/EvilHack 01:59 -!- estrodjinn has joined #evilhack 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3050 (1:10:44) 02:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:47 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 02:51 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:58 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 9553 points, T:6455, killed by a dust vortex, while sleeping 03:09 -!- estrodjinn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:46 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:16 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 05:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:42078 (17:06:53) 05:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:09 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:11 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 06:53 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a shield of reflection entrusted to her by Crom, on T:21076 (6:55:48) 08:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Crom, on T:22248 (7:05:58) 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:68064 (14:58:15) 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Dwa Fem Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:68207 (15:04:21) 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24522 (7:25:51) 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:20723 (6:52:47) 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:72099 (16:02:14) 09:52 its safe to play infidel fyi 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26336 (7:43:05) 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:74826 (16:27:17) 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26685 (7:47:50) 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:27016 (7:55:08) 10:36 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:10517 (2:54:19) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:11460 (3:12:47) 11:12 [EvilHack] k21971 published v0.8.1 | Release build of EvilHack 0.8.1 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases/tag/v0.8.1 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Mal Cha) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:11777 (3:20:38) 11:18 release has the infidel fix too now 11:19 best way to find critical bugs - push a release version 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Crom, on T:27266 (8:11:53) 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1363 (0:08:51) 11:31 Gutso, did you see k2's analysis and resolution? really sorry you got screwed by a bug 11:32 he did, I private messaged them on reddit about it 11:32 cool 11:32 were pretty understanding about it. they were relieved it was a bug and not a mistake made or something 11:34 anyways. 'hacky' fix is in 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 darts on an altar, on T:3458 (0:25:09) 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:78629 (17:02:14) 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:12640 (4:06:15) 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13768 (4:24:42) 12:54 -!- estrodjinn has joined #evilhack 12:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:31067 (9:50:41) 13:00 crapo 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:15483 (3:21:11) 13:04 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) murdered his faithful sewer rat, on T:7517 (1:12:02) 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:31934 (10:05:54) 13:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31935 (10:06:10) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:16524 (3:37:40) 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a platinum dagger entrusted to her by Crom, on T:32788 (10:13:05) 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a copper spear entrusted to her by Crom, on T:32869 (10:14:07) 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:9706 (1:33:13) 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of steel gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Crom, on T:33957 (10:25:34) 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:16958 (3:49:12) 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law), 23846 points, T:10742, burned by molten lava 13:40 !lastgame 13:40 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Gutso/evilhack/dumplog/1676218433.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1676142022.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1675996467.evil.html 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a copper dagger entrusted to her by Crom, on T:34775 (10:33:58) 13:43 i guess i'm hanging out here until ogres are extinct 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2842 (0:37:35) 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:16944 (5:20:29) 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2593 points, T:3328, killed by a piranha 13:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1998 (0:12:32) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2440 (0:16:14) 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:35960 (11:04:09) 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18830 (4:29:11) 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:19144 (4:35:15) 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Crom, on T:37217 (11:17:08) 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:37668 (11:22:05) 14:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3344 points, T:4661, quit 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1188 (0:11:06) 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 330 points, T:1207, killed by a giant mimic 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1386 (0:13:54) 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Huhetotl, on T:20566 (5:00:41) 14:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1233 (0:05:34) 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:38628 (11:48:54) 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a spellbook of detect monsters given to her by Huhetotl, on T:21021 (5:09:17) 15:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2242 (0:12:02) 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Dwa Fem Law) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:81207 (18:12:44) 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a glass scimitar entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:2815 (0:14:36) 15:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:06 -!- Loggers_VIII46 has joined #evilhack 15:09 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:10 are god-gifted spellbooks lighter? 15:11 My detect monsters book is 13 aum 15:12 that is weird 15:12 missing a few pages :-) 15:12 I've never seen a book that light 15:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:12 -!- Loggers_VIII46 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:14 wacky 15:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 frost brand", on T:3261 (0:23:33) 15:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:28 The lightest book I've found that wasn't a paperback novel was 35aum - maybe it has a light object material? 15:32 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:35 Ah, that's probably it! Detect Monsters is the parchment spellbook in my game, which is made of leather, which is thrice the weight of paper 15:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:39 i forget -- does dragonscaling armor remove any armor properties? 15:40 I don't think so 15:41 yes dragonscaling removes object properies 15:41 huh? 15:41 like ESP, decay, etc 15:42 that's unfortunate 15:42 knowing that could've saved me a wish or two 15:43 I suppose the dragon scale props replace the old props then... 15:45 wiki doesn't mention that yet 15:46 how does the ability to "sense" spellcasters on the level with telepathy work? My pet vampire mage went invisible and I don't know why I can't sense him :( 15:47 Maybe they turned back into a bat? Though I thought that didn't happen with pets anymore 15:48 I don't think vampire mages are telepathic? not sure 15:48 no, I can see him when I put on a blindfold. But I can see gnomish wizards and the like from anywhere without a blindfold 15:48 terrapin that might be it 15:48 It seems like they should be 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:22500 (5:59:29) 15:51 terrapin why did you stay illiterate for 20,000 turns? 15:51 just being careful? 15:52 just hadn't gotten around to identifying stuff yet. I'm kinda lazy about it. 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8578 points, T:5945, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:03 That was really dumb. 16:04 !lastgame estrodjinn 16:04 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/estrodjinn/evilhack/dumplog/1676230638.evil.html 16:04 ah, the classic orctown attack wand death 16:05 That was honestly mostly on me, I always forget that attack wands can roll 36 damage at cap and thought I was safe. Sucks, that was a good run. 16:06 wands are the biggest threat early game imo 16:06 maybe besides poison instadeath, which k2 doesn't want to remove for some reason 16:09 well, aggravating (and should be impossible) -- hill giant shaman escaped downstairs into a room completely divided by iron bars, and he's on the non-stairs part of it 16:09 If you've got force bolt it shatters iron bars in this variant 16:09 yeah force bolt/striking 16:10 no, that isn't my point. the giant is supposed to have walked there from the stairs 16:10 oh wait it's krm26 you know that lol 16:10 yeah monsters going down stairs is weird 16:10 Oh. Yeah. Doesn't it just place it in a random location near the stairs without really thinking about HOW they got there? 16:10 so it is doing a non-movement-based displacement to make room for me 16:11 because that method predates iron bars/lava moats (i.e. any form of room subdivision) 16:11 I've had some goofy situations like that when stairs spawn in, say, a treasure zoo divided by themeroom stuff 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:1169 (0:05:59) 16:12 !asc gutso 16:12 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] gutso has not ascended in 931 games. 16:13 oh nooo 16:13 man I've gotta check some dumplogs 16:16 poison instadeath is a staple of roguelikes, has been for decades 16:16 a bit dismayed that it was removed from vanilla nethack 3.7 16:18 Does zombie self-res work like troll self-res? Not sure if I should be avoiding them or trying to kill them permanently. 16:18 yes it does 16:18 yes 16:18 Cool. Thanks. 16:18 you can dip them in a forge but that's about it 16:18 or lock them in a chest/box 16:18 forge is more fun though 16:18 once you have a unihorn just eat them and cure yourself 16:19 The nhwiki specifically notes that tinning them removes the terminal illness, so I figure that's viable if I get an early tinning kit. 16:19 oh never thought of putting them in a box! 16:19 or tinning them 16:19 if you put them in a box, do their corpses still rot away after a while? 16:19 yup 16:20 nice 16:20 you'll see a msg 'you feel less hassled' when the corpse rots away 16:20 Considering lockable iceboxes. Have a random monster that spawned with a key unlock an icebox full of zombie corpses and suddenly you've got a big problem. 16:21 oh man I can already imagine the altar camp bones 16:21 bonus points if they all instantly revive when the box is opened 16:24 hah 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:7577 (1:29:40) 16:33 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 89193 points, T:24138, killed by a giant beetle, while paralyzed by a monster 16:33 !lastgame 16:33 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1676142022.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1676159837.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1675996467.evil.html 16:34 oof 16:34 paralyze spell is nasty 16:35 yep :( 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a leather armor entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2167 (0:28:21) 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2557 (0:15:03) 16:37 oh god 16:37 "You hear the wailing of the Banshee!" 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 3122 points, T:2671, killed by the Goblin King 16:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Gno Fem Cha) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:23017 (8:19:50) 17:07 Is it possible to find non-metal shiny shields? Found a silver one on the first level on a new character. Pretty handy but totally destroys any chance at casting. 17:09 nope---reflecting stuff has to be metal 17:10 Unfortunate but makes sense. 17:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] estrodjinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 133 points, T:807, killed by a lichen 17:37 I did not curse test a weapon. 17:37 It tested me instead. 18:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:5864 (1:07:57) 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5864 (1:07:58) 18:19 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5990 (1:10:17) 18:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:9242 (1:56:50) 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:9467 (1:58:49) 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:9946 (2:00:56) 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "blessed dragonhide +2 helm of speed named Gustavo", on T:10355 (2:03:46) 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:10666 (2:05:50) 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baluchitherium, on T:11470 (2:12:47) 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Mal Law), 13777 points, T:7040, killed by a giant mimic 19:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1447 (0:09:15) 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) performed her first genocide (soldier ants), on T:1504 (0:09:47) 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12894 (2:28:03) 19:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:21 oh fun polymorph trap in shop 20:21 goodbye crystal plate mail 20:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:40 -!- estrodjinn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2577 (0:11:47) 20:45 rip 20:45 yasi: make the goblin king say silly stuff when he is confused and would say something 20:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3240 (0:15:38) 20:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6641 points, T:4360, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant ant 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:16664 (3:43:48) 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16673 (3:44:13) 21:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:16950 (3:49:27) 21:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:17476 (3:53:06) 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:18675 (4:04:41) 21:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20371 (4:31:08) 22:09 what does 'charm' mean for an attack? My shambling horror has a '6d3 bite charm'. Is it a steal item attack? 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21045 (4:48:05) 22:23 wand of wishing is (0:3) :) 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "+2 gray dragon scales", on T:21052 (4:49:46) 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "dragonhide robe of drain resistance", on T:21053 (4:50:19) 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "fire brand", on T:21054 (4:50:26) 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "fire brand", on T:21055 (4:50:28) 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21059 (4:51:24) 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:21098 (4:52:23) 22:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2454 (0:07:01) 22:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2802 points, T:2838, killed by a piranha 22:47 frickin fish 22:50 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:10 -!- estrodjinn has joined #evilhack 23:28 well Loggers_VIII's question sent me down a rabbit hole because I've never really understood how stealing works either, and good lord the stealing code is bizarre. Charm and steal are identical, with charm being restricted to nymphs and the occasional shambling horror (which can also steal as well/instead). However nymphs and Graz'zt (and 23:28 non-animal shambling horrors with either steal or charm) have "charmy" behavior---they can remove more kinds of armor and cursed items and then teleport away. It seems like it would be simpler and easier to understand for the player if charm attacks had the "charmy" behavior and steal attacks didn't, with charm being given to Graz'zt and nymphs 23:28 (and maybe some shambling horrors) and steal to everything else. Although I guess any confusion with the current system would only crop up rarely since shambling horrors and Graz'zt are kinda unique cases anyway. 23:29 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1018 points, T:2579, poisoned by a rotted glob of gray ooze, while sleeping 23:32 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 49 points, T:317, killed by a jackal 23:37 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:817 (0:04:43) 23:49 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 723 points, T:2100, killed by a baby owlbear 23:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]