00:33 wew 1600 for a murky potion 00:33 insane markup 00:50 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 00:50 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Client Quit] 00:51 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Tou Gno Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3494 (3:11:07) 00:52 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 1502 points, T:3509, killed by an elf zombie 01:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4678 (1:12:17) 02:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 16746 points, T:8097, killed by a dwarf lady 02:48 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5335 points, T:7588, killed by an elder minotaur 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 988 points, T:1352, killed by the Goblin King 03:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1507 points, T:2340, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 03:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class h), on T:117471 (1 day, 9:37:09) 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:117473 (1 day, 9:37:36) 04:13 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:28 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire elemental, on T:3538 (2:54:45) 04:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3684 (2:55:52) 04:38 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 5480 points, T:4264, killed by an elf zombie, while praying 04:50 hello 04:50 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 05:21 hi 05:21 Hello cbus, Welcome to #evilhack 05:22 whats good cbus 05:23 well it is soon weekend, I guess that is good :) 05:23 and I am hoping to have enough energy to do some helping on hackem 06:31 -!- krm26_goddamit_g has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:36 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM] 06:42 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 06:56 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:22214 (8:49:24) 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Rog Hum Mal Law) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Issek, on T:118395 (1 day, 10:41:09) 07:15 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23497 (9:04:23) 07:19 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:19 damn, had closed chat so i missed my free potential luckstone id :-) 07:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23497 (9:04:23) 07:26 congrats ;-) 07:37 i'm such a cheater 07:42 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43 there's mobileuser 07:43 where were you yesterday? :P 07:44 I'm away on a business trip, back tomorrow evening 07:45 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 07:45 I saw about the eye of vecna snack in the irclog... 07:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 07:46 heh 07:46 yummy 07:47 first thing I always do is assign that to "E" or "V"... 07:47 this is mobileuser on his business trip: 'ok everyone, thank you for attending. meetings blah blah we'll discuss blah blah etc. I'll be playing nethack, bye bitches' 07:47 \o/ 07:48 :P 07:48 mic drop, exits building. fade to credits 07:49 beautiful 07:49 so yeah, Loggers ate the eye 07:49 and it was cursed, so the damage it can cause is huge 07:49 that's why i always bless any eyes before i eat them 07:50 smart 07:50 in lieu of that, if you have food sense, you'll now get a warning about eating it 07:51 realistically that'll only apply to hobbits, because who goes around casting detect food at skilled/expert 07:51 i always use the first blessed scroll i find just for kicks 07:51 well... me NOW 07:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4958 (1:00:25) 08:00 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 08:07 omg I missed the Vecna eye eating 08:07 Does it kill you outright, or just do tons of damage? 08:07 damage 08:07 beaucoup 08:20 esp if cursed, which it was 08:30 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Tou Gno Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6129 (5:50:42) 08:32 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/52b5e63ed3b4...c74c89d58a0c 08:32 [EvilHack] k21971 c74c89d - Tweaks to maybe_unhide_at(). 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1403 points, T:2343, killed by the Goblin King 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 782 points, T:1168, killed by a pit fiend of Susanowo 10:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:42 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3318 (0:12:32) 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:101040 (1 day, 7:00:08) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8925 points, T:6474, killed by a dwarf queen 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had a large shield entrusted to her by Crom, on T:33408 (11:46:07) 11:27 jebus crom, that is three shields now. you really don't know how to show a tortle a good time 11:44 there's a clearance sale on shields 11:44 all must go 11:52 i mean, does crom even know how shields work? that you need to hold them in a hand? because he gave me cleaver and then 3 shields, and i think he must have started drinking early 11:52 what is the player level where you start having a decent shot at an artifact? like, 14? 11:53 i need to sticky that formula 11:53 since i owe myself a second shot with soa 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:33626 (11:52:27) 11:56 asked and answered! 12:11 \o/ 12:11 praise crom 12:16 praise crom 12:16 ok, three more shields and then fire brand! 12:23 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Crom, on T:37775 (12:26:28) 12:44 before i forget, the sword of annihilation doesn't poof itself on vortexes and black dragons, right? 12:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:59 krm26 SoA is disintegration resistant 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:104583 (1 day, 8:30:45) 13:07 ooh gutso's going for it 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:104835 (1 day, 8:34:51) 13:18 ooh trident of venom in the first shop! 13:18 great find 13:19 damn gutso saved 13:19 thought he was going to go for the gold 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1078 (0:07:11) 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:1104 (0:07:30) 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 2292 points, T:1642, poisoned by a crossbow bolt 13:24 oh fun 13:24 thank you nethack 13:24 thank you for poisoning the gnome lord's crossbow bolts 13:25 at least you got the vortices first 13:25 I wish you could genocide objects 13:25 i've asked for genociding bullwhips like 9 zillion times :-) 13:25 should be legal cuz has animal in name 13:26  makes sense. genociding bulls makes it so bullwhips can't be generated 13:26 (bullwhips are made of bulls) 13:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1127 (0:47:05) 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 144 points, T:193, killed by a falling object 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 809 points, T:1067, killed by a bugbear 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:42206 (13:54:38) 13:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4713 (0:13:35) 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 317 points, T:649, killed by trying to drink molten lava 14:03 oops 14:03 the quaffer's instinct kicked in 14:04 dohhhhhh 14:04 red/blue color blindness? :-) 14:05 some primal part of my brain kicked in and hit the 'q' key against my will 14:05 everything that CAN be quaffed WILL be quaffed 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1399 points, T:5434, killed by an imp, while fainted from lack of food 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Crom, on T:43254 (14:03:51) 14:07 mm, thx for following up dragonbane with some more gloves! damn turtles lack of options 14:11 armor is a crutch 14:12 then gimme fire brand beeatch! 14:13 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 4056 points, T:3461, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:4742 (0:26:06) 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 166 points, T:475, killed by a gnome zombie 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5682 (0:31:44) 14:51 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 14:51 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 14:51 -!- chao is now known as stenno 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:6035 (0:38:24) 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:911 (0:33:07) 14:59 !lastgame umberconductor 14:59 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1673762951.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1675324452.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1675909085.evil.html 15:01 oh nooo 15:02 time to sift through all dumplogs across all servers 15:04 ? you cheating on bones loot id? 15:04 tortle bonus: easy to get naked for nurses 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 4046 points, T:2479, killed by a giant rat 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:8008 (0:54:30) 15:08 krm26 yes I am a filthy cheater 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 frost brand", on T:69 (0:00:28) 15:12 hahaha 15:12 drank !ohallu --> drank one of my starting potions of healing ---> wish :) 15:13 how come you never get the owner to smack you down! 15:13 They're too scared 15:14 my dog is very powerful 15:16 there should be a mechanic where when someone wishes for an artifact, someone on the server who has it has it stolen 15:17 you have to fly to their house and win a wrestling match to get it 15:19 heh 15:19 summon an exact copy of your character to their game 15:19 feats of strength 15:19 ogre just read a scroll on the second barb quest level and summoned 30 ogres and trolls 15:20 hahaha 15:20 rip and tear, until it is done 15:24 what a battle 15:24 didn't know that one of the barb levels was just an open plain 15:24 yeah it is obnoxious :-) 15:25 good thing i was massively overprepared 15:25 last thing found on the open map -- magic lamp 15:25 :o 15:26 your bones is gonna be great :) 15:26 trying to decide if i should burn my first artifact wish for fire brand so i can make SoA, or keep trying to sac it up so maybe I can Express Card 15:26 speaking of, I wonder if I can find your gelcube bones 15:26 express card 15:26 it's so good 15:26 Level 10 if i recall -- i had my fingers crossed but didn't get it 15:27 the express card is probably the best artifact (quest artifact, anyway) 15:27 ring of P'hul might beat it out 15:29 well, they are mutually exclusive. PYEC best for neutral, RoP' best for chaotic 15:29 although gjallar is pretty damn good for neutral too 15:30 i would say PYEC only definitely beats it if rings of increase damage aren't edible 15:31 gjallar is good but it's only half physical damage now right? 15:31 I would say if it was both damages it would be the best but now it's a bit more up in the air yeah 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 570 points, T:904, killed by a system shock 15:32 wow funny game 15:32 !lastgame loggers 15:32 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1675973499.evil.html 15:32 30 damage? didn't know it could go that high 15:33 gjallar also lets you just summon vecna without buggering about which is sweet 15:33 yeah 15:33 drum of earthquake does as well but those are ridiculously rare for some reason 15:35 just found two! but no, drum of earthquake doesn't wake vecna from the steps 15:35 0 charge earthquake is a nice ascension crutch 15:36 didn't know gjallar woke him all the way from the stairs 15:36 that is nice 15:37 once you have gjallar you never have to leave the up stairs ever again! 15:37 * K2 takes notes 15:37 :P 15:39 nooo don't touch my gjallarrrr 15:39 heh 15:39 i mean, uh, the convict ball is like clearly the best quest artifact ever 15:41 yeah seriously the invoke is so overpowered 15:41 phase through matter? so many special levels in evil have phasable walls 15:41 its meant to get the attention of everything on the level no matter where you're at 15:42 (gjallar) 15:42 it is all out of bubblegum 15:43 random +5 apron :d 15:43 *:o 15:43 how did I mix up d and o they're nowhere near each other 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1314 (0:11:35) 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 frost brand", on T:1353 (0:11:50) 15:44 throne wish \o/ 15:45 and now I did not get an owner :) 15:45 *no 15:46 that's the second frost brand wish i've seen you make today 15:46 I've decided that the thing early game tourists need above all else is a good weapon 15:46 grayswandir 15:46 then you can make purity late 15:47 I know this is a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I actually like not dying to blasting damage 15:49 this might be me being paranoid but it feels like blasting damage does more in evil 15:50 its being paranoid 15:50 yeah took a quick look at the github and I think it's just me 15:50 heh 15:51 whatever grayswandir's boring 15:51 I hate it 15:51 so mean 15:51 what did grayswandir ever do to deserve such malice? 15:52 it's so good but it's so lame >:( 15:52 it's just damage 15:53 although to be fair, most lawful artifacts are super boring 15:54 neutrals get all the coolest weapons 15:55 gauntlets of purity enters chat 15:56 ok yeah gauntlets of purity are awesome 15:56 :P 15:57 they are the sole reason anyone would ever play lawful monk 15:57 I love forged artifacts 15:57 probably my favorite feature 16:16 i like that it gives me something to waste lots of time fiddling with instead of ascending 16:19 it's a nice way to add powerful artifacts while not invalidating artifacts you get from sac'ing, or inflating the count 16:19 plus I always love altar camping for two hours 16:21 the other day I was reading about skinner boxes and I just thought "oh it's like altar sacrificing" 16:21 rats kind of get the middle finger from science on the regular 16:22 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:22 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:22 run through the maze eat the drugs it doesn't matter you're a small mammal 16:23 i'm glad you all are enjoying the forged artifacts 16:24 splicehack had them first, but i swear i never once saw any discussion about them. no idea why, there were some neat forged artifacts 16:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:26 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 16:32 k2 I didn't know splicehack had forged artis 16:32 never heard anyone talk about them 16:35 i have some more recipe ideas for next version 16:35 something for priests 16:35 and an artifact barding 16:36 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 16:36 ooh barding artifact sounds cool 16:36 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 16:37 maybe I'll play a role with mounts sometime 16:37 artifact barding that gives flight and eats curses 16:37 well, a role that is good for mounts 16:38 werebane is just hanging around waiting to be forged into something cool 16:38 make it so good that polymorphing into a pegasus and putting it on yourself is a good strategy 16:38 I feel like werebane+demonbane is fitting for priests right? 16:38 both holy artifacts fighting against heretical monsters 16:38 or sunsword+demonbane 16:38 yeah 16:39 poor priests, leave them demonbane to weild and give them a sunsword+werebane casting shield! 16:39 poooor priests 16:39 pooor poor priests 16:39 wat du 16:39 priests are fiiine 16:39 i think i have more evilhack priest ascensions than anyone and so i can emphatically say they are impossible to ascend and need an artifact shield immediately 16:40 krm26 thinks priests suck. he hates the mitre 16:40 the mitre is a shitshow 16:40 false 16:40 it can eat me 16:40 false 16:40 we mock what we dont understand 16:40 fire resistance? come ON 16:40 turn undead? baahahahaha 16:40 prayer in gehennom though 16:41 kind great tbh 16:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePTZezN_Iw 16:41 if you need to pray in gehennom you are meat anyway 16:41 no 16:41 full healing can go a long way 16:41 can #pray and #turn in gehennom with the mitre 16:41 pfa 16:42 what priests need is to deal an extra d20 melee damage to all off-aligned monsters or to regenerate energy whenever they kill a demon or something to help them kick real butt 16:43 ok I am completely convinced that the sceptre of might was supposed to be the priest quest artifact and by now they're too embarrassed to change it 16:43 it's so fitting 16:44 what do engame priests use anyway? mjollnir+demonbane or something similar? 16:44 when wearing the mitre demonbane should cleave only off-aligned monsters like cleaver! 16:44 priests cant dual wield 16:45 it is either mjollnir or, less effectively, demonbane. or these days the staff of the archmagi would be amazing 16:45 oh poor priests 16:46 archmagi is definitely gonna be the best until an artifact shield appears :-) 16:46 speaking of mjollnir my dream is still mjollnir+keolewa forged arti 16:47 it makes so much sense 16:47 throw, aoe lightning at impact point, 100% return 16:48 all I want in life is to do obscene amounts of lightning damage to vulnerable monsters 16:50 invoke mitre to summon a friendly archon! 16:52 pff 16:52 that would straight up turn priests into the best role 16:52 tired of archonstorms? create YOUR OWN ARCHONSTORM 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) murdered his faithful orc shaman, on T:7047 (1:20:06) 16:55 oh come on 16:55 stop shuddering you stupid monsters! 16:55 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:55 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:7749 (1:25:03) 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:52705 (16:58:01) 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52707 (16:58:08) 17:02 does tinning a tengu remove the chance for teleportitis? 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 362 points, T:447, killed by an invisible gnome lady 17:03 nope 17:05 no need to tin them then I guess 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8561 (1:31:15) 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8597 (1:31:36) 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:8763 (1:32:23) 17:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:53441 (17:05:50) 17:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:9055 (1:34:40) 17:10 oh my apron is +6 now and didn't vibrate 17:10 didn't know you could enchant those to +7 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a potion of acid), on T:3085 (0:15:49) 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3125 (0:16:19) 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10445 (1:44:46) 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10527 (1:45:13) 17:20 as a tortle i should be able to grease my shell 17:20 ^actually, he has a point 17:22 so that you can slide around? 17:23 so that salamanders don't lava me 17:24 yep, that too 17:24 salamanders have a lava drown attack? 17:24 @e?salamander 17:24 salamander (:) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire sleep | Confer: fire | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -1 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 1d6 touch fire, 3d6 hug fire, 2d6 hug wrap | Align: -9 | thick hide, poisonous, stalker, infravis, passes-bars 17:24 I've melee'd a LOT of salamanders and never seen it 17:24 wrap when in lava 17:25 instadeath 17:25 you are just lucky 17:25 I think by the time you fight salamanders regularly it's not a problem 17:25 it is always a problem, you never level out of it 17:26 a lucky hit is all it takes 17:26 if you get EXTREMELY unlucky they need two turns to kill you and you can either bugle or just straight up kill them 17:26 as long as you have a STOP alert in your nethackrc for it 17:26 so you don't miss it 17:26 and as long as you aren't a super-slow tortle 17:26 slowly slowing around at a slow speed of slowness 17:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:27 meh they're the same speed as giants 17:27 has someone done a tortle tourist before? 17:27 with less opportunity for extrinsic speed 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:486 (0:05:15) 17:28 there have only been 3 tortle ascensions, mine and VaderFlag's two 17:28 but one of VaderFlag's was a tourist if i recall 17:28 krm26 true, if you're tortle priest you kind of have to pick between mitre and speed 17:28 he did wizard and either tourist or arc 17:29 but VaderFLAG has hax 17:29 he uses "skill" and "competence" and shit like that 17:29 vaderflag is too good it scares me 17:29 yeah he does shit like "play the game with the future of the run in mind" 17:32 ok I checked the scoreboard vaderflag did do a tortle tourist 17:32 tortles are quite unpopular it seems 17:33 they are HARD 17:33 *this* close to nude conduct 17:33 plus the game yells at you if you eat one tiny little sea tortle 17:34 tbf AC isn't tooo much of an issue bcuz intrinsic AC 17:37 let's see, dragonhide +5 helm, +5 GoPur, max protection and intrinsic equals out to around... -40 17:38 er... -39? 17:39 yeah 17:39 but they are definitely really hard, reflected in the scoreboard that says only three people have ascended them 17:39 or rather, there have only been three tortle ascs 17:40 hey, one of these is you! 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a gold circular amulet on an altar, on T:3008 (0:17:30) 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 17 wooden shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3071 (0:18:46) 17:48 looks like 17:49 i did the ez combo tho, tortle monk 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 6551 points, T:3598, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:49 why do I always think I can one-shot floating eyes? 17:49 and your likely tortle ac is more like -35 at the high end 17:50 hope springs eternal, like the sleep of the grave 17:50 nabru I used to do that 17:51 I then decided I would rather waste my allotted garbage runs of the day on more important things, like fountain quaffing 17:52 yeah i have a bad habit of cursing all my items and then dying under a pile of snakes with wishes in my eyes 17:52 ^ this but no context 17:53 lol 17:53 normal nethack sentences can be so funny taken out of context 17:53 this one goes beyond a normal nethack sentence. there's something... poetic about it 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Crom, on T:54478 (17:37:38) 17:55 third pair of gauntlets of dex he has given me AFTER dragonbane, woot woot 17:57 why are you trying to sacfest when you're only level 13 17:58 ugh my full healing is milky 17:59 i don't want to level any more 17:59 extra levels are punishing for marginal characters, tortles qualify 18:00 but... AC and HP! 18:00 a nice technique for any run is stash 30-level potions of gain level and quaf em when you get the amulet 18:00 so my last run i got the amulet at 20 and then drank my 10 potions of gain level before the ascension run 18:00 makes everything tons easier 18:01 otherwise you always run into a few level 30 unkillable @npcs to harsh your buzz 18:01 wait what happened to Loggers_VIII I really liked that guy 18:02 lol 18:02 i've had a level 30 giant @npc show up with a key, pick up the boulder over my stash, unlock it, fill himself up with wands of death, teleportation, and digging, and cost me like 15k turns to track him and all his totally spent wands down 18:02 I use three different computers and thought it was fitting to have three different names 18:02 I thought that it wouldn't let me have the same name on all of them for some reason 18:02 krm26 lol 18:03 just don't use a stash 18:04 didn't a gelcube eat one the other day? 18:05 yeah my last failed tortle, gelcube at stash, second gelcube ate me a few turns after i killed the first 18:05 that was fairly early game 18:06 gelcubes are manageable normally but damn getting one as a tortle must suck 18:07 i was unlucky, it spawned on me so i didn't get warning 18:07 just bad luck 18:07 ("krm26-luck") 18:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:08 heh 18:09 krm26 has bad things inflicted upon him by the universe, whereas I prefer to simply make decisions that actively harm my run 18:09 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:09 you have definitely been legendarily unlucky lately 18:10 i offended the rng gestalt in the early 90s with an emulator bug that made the pseudorandom numbers generated by the compass assembly overly non-stochastic 18:11 it still hasn't forgiven me 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Trt Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:55587 (17:54:01) 18:12 the rng holds grudges for decades 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:14531 (2:38:37) 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14533 (2:38:41) 18:13 oh yeah 18:13 PYEC time :) 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:3206 (0:39:56) 18:16 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4043 18:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:14739 (2:41:52) 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3436 (0:41:40) 18:17 i wish there was something fun to do with all the landmines in ludios 18:19 -!- Guest4043 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:20 oh christ my horror is a fast displacing low AC sickness inducing nightmare 18:20 I literally can't kill it 18:21 couldn't these things only spawn in gehennom? 18:21 AC -23, nice 18:21 won't be hitting that for a while 18:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:23 honestly my shambling horrors have been pretty uniform 18:23 there's been like 2 that didn't have a sickness attack and displacement 18:23 oh another one fun >:( 18:24 i had paralyzing disenchanting brain eating a run or two ago 18:25 hope i get an ez one for this tortyle 18:25 i swear blessed royal jelly used to give you +1 max hp a lot more frequently 18:25 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Tou Gno Mal Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:7886 (6:30:54) 18:25 I wish there could be like 18:25 not super powerful shambling horros 18:26 *horrors 18:26 I mean, it's not very evil but at least it adds variety 18:26 new day, new plea! k2, make shambling horrors get an additional new random ability every time you kill one! EVVVIIIIIL 18:27 and make them merge like puddings when adjacent, doubling their random abilities! 18:27 and then of course add yog-sothoth as the shambling horror demon prince 18:28 can't wait for the "touch 2d6 illness touch 2d6 illness claw 3d4 disenchant bite 5d6 eat brains engulf 6d6 paralyze weapon 4d4 illness weapon 4d3 disenchant touch 8d8 illness" 18:29 permanent hallucination on his level when he is alive, only reprieve grayswandir 18:29 i can't either loggers! team shambling horror! 18:29 oh wait, since this is evilhack there has to also be a 6d6 cast clerical in there somewhere 18:30 @e?shambling horror 18:30 shambling horror (U) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: none | Align: 0 | carnivore, nopoly, passes-bars 18:31 wait can you genocide them? 18:31 nope 18:31 lame 18:31 things in evil you should be able to geno but can't: beholders vorpal jabberwocks shambling horrors 18:31 i love how the game suppresses info on their abilities until you witness them now 18:31 that is cool 18:32 oh I'm leaving 18:32 -!- Loggers_IX has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 9822 points, T:6176, killed by a champion of Crom 18:43 arghhh antimatter vortex 18:44 damn shapechanger 18:54 What. Aphrodite on dungeon level EIGHTEEN? never seen her so deep 18:56 I think she can appear as late as 20s 19:00 i don't think i've ever seen her below maybe 12 before 19:02 hah, my slow tortle's shambling horror does sting slow, weapon slow 19:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:105650 (1 day, 8:58:03) 19:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:16 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 6344 points, T:9029, quit 19:20 !lastgame umberconductor 19:20 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1675324452.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1673762951.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UmberConductor/evilhack/dumplog/1675921981.evil.html 19:20 ah 19:20 unforunate 19:20 *unfortunate 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:16366 (3:06:04) 19:25 smoky healing is nice :) 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a cloth helm of speed entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:16445 (3:06:57) 19:27 ooh man i'd kill for a helm of speed 19:28 the lady is feeling generous today 19:28 krm26 luckily for you, only one army is standing between you and a wand of wishing! 19:32 i just had a shambling horror burn the hat off my hand. that's half of my clothing! 19:32 hand/head/whatever 19:33 gotta save all my wishes to burn fruitlessly as i try to end up swinging SoA/(Vorpal or Angelslayer) 19:34 yeah well two of my horrors have decided to generate above level 17 and I have to try and run past them because they are literally unkillable 19:34 i just got my first on 17 but luckily it was vaguely killable 19:35 i'm equally worried about aphrodite on 18 considering how fast she is compared to me and what else can spawn there (there's already some basilisks and crap) 19:35 lucky. For mine the game basically said "oh, your weapon is +7 and max skill? sorry, come back later we generated a monster with endgame stats and attacks in the main dungeon" 19:35 my ranged combat right now is "1 shitty random dagger each round" 19:35 yeah aphrodite sucks 19:35 I can't count the number of times I've gotten all my stuff stolen and only narrowly survived 19:36 she's like early game Graz'zt 19:36 heh, imagine if she was covetous 19:36 guess time to park for dinner. good luck! 19:36 later 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:75798 (21:03:58) 20:03 aphrodite is supposed to be levels 5-15 20:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:09 @e?giant ant 20:09 giant ant (a) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, passes-bars 20:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 20:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:35 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1325 20:35 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:39 -!- Guest1325 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) performed the invocation, on T:106583 (1 day, 9:27:36) 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided alhoons, on T:106594 (1 day, 9:28:48) 20:46 oh yeah 20:46 lucifer fight soon :) 20:50 -!- Gutso has joined #evilhack 20:50 oh hey gutso 20:50 hi! 20:50 Hello Gutso, Welcome to #evilhack 20:50 any tips on Lucifer? 20:51 do NOT get into melee range 20:51 boulder fort and spellcast for infidels 20:51 potion of invis will lure him out? 20:51 no 20:51 earhtquake drum? 20:51 it can, but do not do it 20:52 the stairs disappear when you pick up the amulet, so he can't warp to the stairs to heal 20:52 it's better to clear the level of monsters before fighting him, as pretty much nothing will wake him up and he's in a contained area 20:53 oh ok. So clear the level. make sure i am ready, then sac the amulet on altar (for infidel) and then boulder fort + acid blast? 20:53 on the same spot? 20:53 I don't think he's acid resistance so that should work 20:54 there's an area to the left of the temple to moloch now 20:54 lucifer and his cronies are hiding in there 20:54 yeah I see him with tele 20:54 boy evilhack is Hard compared to vanilla 20:54 definitely 20:55 like very intense. But the astral plane is similar? 20:55 the astral plane has been made a bit more difficult, but I would say that the Lucifer fight is the climax of the run 20:56 do you have drum of earthquake? 20:56 yes 20:56 ok so this is what I would recommend: 20:56 go ahead 20:58 clear high priest of moloch, walk out of the temple and clear out the named balrogs. The high priest has a magic marker, so use it to write scrolls of earthquake if you haven't already. You'll want two of them, just in case a pit is spawned under a boulder. Read one, use drum of earthquake, read another if any of your boulders are destroyed, and 20:58 cast as many spells as you can at him 20:58 if you run out of PW, you will most likely have done enough damage to melee him to death, but get out a couple potions of full healing if that happens 20:59 I don't have any full heal. Will blessed tins of nurse work same? 20:59 yes 21:00 one more question: you sure the drum will wake him? because I was fighting warith in a cemetery and it seemed like some monster used a drum (not mine) and he didn't flinch 21:00 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3421 21:00 -!- Guest3421 has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:00 I have done it before, but I do not know if it was changed. Let me check 21:00 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a4b8f81d1af640432af74d5fc17f0e81f11c7f24 21:01 aww it was changed 21:01 just walk next to him to start the fight, get one space away and use earth 21:01 sorry, hadn't seen that commit :( 21:02 Well thanks K! As if it wasn't hard enough :P 21:02 :) 21:02 ok so i guess same spiel but right after saccing the amulet? 21:03 yea 21:03 here's his stats if you're interested 21:03 @e?lucifer 21:03 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 21:04 awesome! Is there a list of commands for hecubus I can look at? 21:04 I don't have one 21:05 k2 probably does 21:05 the only two I ever use are @e? and !lastgame 21:05 !commands 21:05 K2: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 21:06 also https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/#bot-commands <--- same applies for Hecubus 21:06 !lastasc k2 21:06 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1654572085.evil.html 21:06 oh didn't know about that command 21:07 Thank you for that! finally... do you think it's worth wasting a wish for a book/boots of jump? my spell is faded and the book is many floors above (dont want to deal with rodney on my way there). For the astral plane. Last time I ascended (years ago, vanilla) I made it by the skin of my teeth thanks to jumping... 21:07 i wouldnt 21:07 but that's me 21:07 just write it with the high priest's marker 21:07 being able to jump is nice to have 21:08 !asc Loggers 21:08 K2: [hdf-us] Loggers has ascended 1 times in 1411 games (0.07%): evil:1 (0.07%) 21:08 ok. half eaten chickatrice corpse still useful for the plane? 21:08 hmm.. I don't think it's worth it. k2 can priests cast stone to flesh 21:08 yeah, just be aware that high level spellcasters can cast stone to flesh on themselves 21:09 yeah 21:09 for the angels it'd work 21:09 ok it's worth it then 21:09 but, your to-hit will be kinda crap 21:09 an infidel with angelslayer and fireball spell? you'd clean house on astral 21:09 gutso also, instead of the vanilla insta-stoning it will take around five turns to fully turn a monster into a statue (they undergo same process as player) 21:09 oh right cause it's not instant anymore. ok. Still far away from there... Man... if i make it Ill take a vacation 21:10 :P 21:10 lol 21:10 Loggers_VIII i thought you had ascended more than once 21:10 k2 no 21:10 hmm 21:10 although thanks for the free ego inflation :) 21:11 heh 21:11 Gutso, good luck! gonna peel away from the computer for a bit 21:11 I've made it very far a lot, but almost always die horribly in silly manners 21:11 later k2 21:11 by thank you! 21:11 now go kick lucifer's ass 21:12 Yessir 21:15 -!- Gutso has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:16 oh noo 21:16 dammit gutso I've got a limited time frame here! 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:20108 (3:58:12) 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20201 (4:01:20) 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:106795 (1 day, 9:59:46) 21:30 oh we're back on! we're back on! 21:34 dammit gutso I'm stretching my time as far as I can here stop idling! 21:34 [hdf-au] [evil] UmberConductor (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 646 points, T:2017, killed by a hobgoblin 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:107004 (1 day, 10:12:24) 21:40 feck he faffed about too much I have to go 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the giant high priest of Moloch, on T:107011 (1 day, 10:15:05) 21:44 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1119 (0:39:21) 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Lucifer, on T:107094 (1 day, 10:23:26) 21:49 -!- Gutso has joined #evilhack 21:50 I did it! I killed Lucy! 21:50 It was hard as hell though. Plus I lost my divine protection because I thought it was a good idea to kill the high priest... 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Purgatory, on T:107281 (1 day, 10:28:51) 21:55 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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