00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:160 (0:01:57) 00:01 Neat, invis cloak 00:02 Not ideal for Minetown, though 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] gokajern (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:5347 (3:02:22) 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 1322 points, T:1245, killed by a gnome zombie 00:21 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9195 (1:33:18) 00:23 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) averted death (poisoned by an orcish arrow), on T:9330 (1:34:56) 00:54 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 01:00 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:36 not me thinking I didn't have psionic wave as an ith convict 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:5697 (0:21:32) 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6868 (0:23:21) 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 12741 points, T:6686, killed by a soldier ant 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7421 (0:27:15) 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a mithril spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:8728 (0:30:27) 02:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:13950 (0:46:35) 02:14 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 02:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 4730 points, T:4252, killed by a giant mimic 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1433 (0:11:37) 02:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1591 (0:14:23) 02:57 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 02:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Con Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7653 (5:51:34) 03:01 [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 29539 points, T:14126, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 03:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:5842 (1:41:06) 03:06 Fuckin' fuck, elven watchman's right by the temple 03:07 Made it to a shop selling a blindfold at least 03:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of platinum gauntlets entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:17725 (1:07:37) 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 478 points, T:1577, killed by a boiling potion 03:16 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a rock gnome corpse on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:3609 (0:45:10) 03:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 9802 points, T:6683, killed by a Woodland-elf 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a knife entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:19876 (1:29:06) 03:36 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:19963 (1:31:06) 03:43 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a steel chain mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:22452 (1:38:31) 03:48 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:22774 (1:43:32) 04:04 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gnome mummy, on T:24458 (2:00:48) 04:30 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed ring of P'hul", on T:26207 (2:26:01) 04:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:48 I absolutely didn't have to dig into the temple or single out the elven watchman and catch them behind a door I can lock 04:49 but it's absolutely funny that I did 04:54 -!- chao is now known as stenno 05:32 when you're a convict can you just take the shirt off or are do they know you anyway? 05:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:8203 (0:25:34) 05:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4293 points, T:9462, killed by a hill orc 05:48 rebatela the watch won't be fooled. But shopkeepers won't let you in if they see the shirt (you can cover it with armor or cloak) 05:48 and it starts cursed 05:51 ok right 06:09 Most convicts' objectives are to get unpunished and cover/remove the shirt 06:10 Watch angers on sight so when it comes to Minetown, don't be seen 06:31 gotcha. thanks 06:47 have you seen the latest evilhack thread on /r/nethack? 'This game -flips table- - https://redd.it/10q2sq5' 06:55 yeah, brilliant! 06:55 jarearl'd? 06:55 no... 06:55 i think evil is easier than vanilla in some ways 06:55 comedy capers! 06:56 but it's funny to watch these vanilla crusaders try and fail and then complain etc. 06:56 what Loggers did was impressive imo 06:56 extremely 06:57 all variants with object materials are "easier" in a sense 06:57 than vanilla 06:59 "Evilhack really is evil. Is it weird that I love it?" 06:59 great quote 07:00 haha 07:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30003 (2:56:51) 07:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 07:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2294 points, T:2029, killed by a soldier ant 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:54871 (9:27:08) 07:59 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54882 (9:28:05) 07:59 ok just orcus now.. phew 08:01 the teaming up becomes like what happens on astral when riders get next to you 08:01 (multiple i mean) 08:01 it's too much. you always have to use a turn to unstun etc. 08:01 i mean, i'm not complaining obviously it's supposed to be like that. makes it fun when you live 08:02 hah nice reddit post 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:55100 (9:31:59) 08:15 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:28 we got some snow last night! like a quarter inch, and none of it stuck on sidewalks and roads, but enough for weatherheads to declare the end of the nyc snow drought 08:31 snow drought? that sounds like you actually want snow? 08:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:36 it's just that it's super weird for nyc to have zero snow at this point 08:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a copper oblong amulet on an altar, on T:3513 (0:32:14) 08:39 woop 08:39 it was -8 F this morning in my driveway 08:39 die hibernating ticks, die 08:39 lol the cold front hasnt even come yet 08:40 you must be in canada man 08:40 nice rant last night rebatela 08:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a dog), on T:3594 (0:34:04) 08:40 :P 08:40 haha 08:40 sorry 08:40 no its good, you pointed out an issue i hadnt thought of 08:40 so you had thought it out? 08:40 oh man 08:40 fix will be in next version (fix breaks saves) 08:40 why i am wasting my time 08:40 well think about it 08:40 i killed them this morning but i should have shutup 08:41 if gehennom is now a one way street... being able to easily bypass all the demon bosses feels cheap 08:41 no doubt 08:41 the fix disallows levelporting past those levels 08:41 oh man 08:41 you could still bypass them, you'll just have to work for it 08:42 key word 'easily' 08:42 if you can still do it, ok. but i dont like freebies 08:43 and if you hadnt said anything, someone else (or me) would have figured it out 08:43 kinda surprised i didnt see it earlier tbh 08:44 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 08:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:57 ahhh finally it is time to play funny letters game after shoveling this goddamn snow for hours 08:58 heh 08:58 they really should have sent me a memo about snow before I decided to be born it might have influenced my decision 08:58 my solution to shoveling is - i dont shovel 08:58 lol 08:59 i prob should, but i cant be bothered 08:59 i should probably keep access to the front door cleared. oh well 09:00 we never use the front door to enter/exit our house. always go through the garage 09:00 ah 09:01 I usually try to wait until snow goes away on its own but unfortunately it's got to the point where even I am annoyed enough to do something about it 09:01 ^ this 09:02 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 09:02 and now I can finally relax with a nice easy role: evilhack tourist :) 09:02 \o/ 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 491 points, T:989, killed by a goblin 09:17 Loggers_VIII hobbit tourist is fun too 09:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:26 Congratulations on your monk ascension Loggers 09:27 mobileuser are hobbits harder or easier than humans? 09:27 thanks vaderflag! 09:30 pro: hobbits get speed at 4 and searching at 7. better dexterity, wisdom and constitution 09:30 they can eat 09:30 EEET 09:30 that does sound fun 09:30 con: hobbits get hungry faster. worse strength, intelligence and charisma are capped at 16 09:31 but as tourist you start with lots of food 09:31 can't they also eat more before being full also? 09:31 yeah 09:31 EEET MOAR 09:31 a lot more 09:32 what do tourists use to spellcast, int or wis? 09:32 int 09:32 16 int isn't too bad 09:34 geta helm of brizziliance 09:35 better dex also counts I think? 09:35 yes 09:35 I noticed dex counts for spells 09:35 idk if that's in vanilla 09:36 plus AC from dex 09:36 so +2 on the dex, -2 on the int, maybe that evens out 09:36 strength and charisma don't really matter and I like high constitution 09:37 I think the pros outweigh the cons 09:37 when I splat this run I'll start playing hobbits 09:39 tobbits 09:39 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3291 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:36005 (4:21:56) 09:49 Also intrinsic food appraisal. 09:50 why all the gelatinous cube hate :( 09:50 oh that's cool umbire 09:50 always wished there was a way to get that in vanilla 09:51 Food detection scroll/skilled detect food spell. 09:51 It's permanent for hobbits though. 09:51 yeah I meant intrinsically 09:51 blessed scroll should give it to you permanently 09:51 now this pisses me off.... Loggers hasn't played evil enough to understand the gelcube hate but he owns the wallclock 09:52 the rest of us have died to them a thousand times man (well, not mobileuser) 09:53 my early genos are usually the cubes and shocking spheres 09:54 and you play really fast. you really haven't been suffocated by a b while paralyzed by a monster? 09:54 heh I haven't died to one yet but my escapes were sometimes pretty miraculous 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 934 points, T:1819, killed by the Goblin King 09:57 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 09:58 tobbit time! 09:58 rebatela I did get paralyzed for long enough to essentially insta-suffocate once and that was frustrating, but usually I just find a wand of digging or scroll or wand of tele, or ring of free action, "o magical breathing etc etc 09:58 mobileuser yes it is :) 10:02 "surprisingly, this satiates your stomach!" lol 10:05 =D 10:06 heh 10:09 oh nice got a two handed sword 10:09 lucky 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1539 (0:11:11) 10:13 haha infravision+speed for the win 10:13 hobbit best race 10:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:25 K2: literally one step from the dlvl1 stairs where you initially spawn is a magic trap and it uncursed all my stuff on t:2 as an infidel >:( 10:27 hehehe 10:27 hehehehe 10:27 that is awesome 10:27 convict would have loved that 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:3109 (0:26:54) 10:32 hmm 10:32 tourist runs aren't supposed to go well, what's going on?? 10:32 incoming leocrotta 10:34 NetSysFire congrats 10:37 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:38 sssshhh 10:38 qt is here 10:38 hi! 10:38 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 10:38 * K2 looks around like nothing was happening 10:39 no, we didnt eat the king cake that was left out 10:39 stop looking at me like that 10:40 jokes on you, i already ate all the king cake 10:40 well, my brother still has some 10:40 heh 10:54 just saw your "Hide plastic babies in slices of king cake" PR qt, great! 10:55 I want my plastic baby crocodile 11:04 idk if that PR is going to make it mobileuser, at least not in its current form. aosdict doesn't seem to think complicating the fruitid stuff is worth it for something that is generated 1 day of the year 11:05 i have a branch locally where holiday foods are a separate item that piggybacks on the existing fruitname code but honestly that makes it even more complicated (because you have to remember that all instances of 'id == SLIME_MOLD' have to include '|| id == HOLIDAY_FOOD') 11:06 i do like the idea of the plastic babies being plastic baby mon figurines though 11:07 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6819 (2:13:48) 11:10 you half convinced me the other day to add SLICE_OF_KING_CAKE as its own item 11:11 do it 11:11 no balls 11:11 (now you have to do it) 11:12 did you eat the king cake? 11:12 how was it? 11:13 I choked on the baby and died 11:13 you are talking to my ghost 11:13 bummer 11:13 i knew i should have reminded you about the baby 11:14 you weren't familiar with it because xnh king cake has no baby 11:14 up until then it was a new experience though, very tasty in several different aspects 11:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 718 points, T:1879, killed by a water demon 11:15 oops thought that one was not peaceful 11:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2759 (0:08:04) 11:24 oooh got the magic marker 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had 17 wooden shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:8030 (2:34:15) 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8217 (2:37:30) 11:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:9142 (0:27:40) 11:43 yessss 11:43 moloch accepted my sacrifice of a kitten 11:43 yay 11:43 you're sick 11:44 meow rawr 11:45 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 10860 points, T:7891, killed by a wolf, while praying 11:45 bigroom 11:45 right after oracle 11:46 hmm 11:46 1674264797 willisllama: impossible Couldn't load "Bar-loca.lev" - making a maze. 11:46 what the hell happened there 11:46 that game was started on jan 20th 11:51 no issues visiting each barb quest level in wizmode 11:51 hmm 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1686 (0:12:19) 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 1421 points, T:1822, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 12:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:32 i'm back to complain more about frost brand for another 30k turns! yay! 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:9731 (3:40:15) 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:101435 (1 day, 13:46:19) 12:38 lol krm26 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6090 points, T:4861, killed by a rock gnome, while sleeping 12:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:45 wait a minute, tourists don't get skilled in twoweaponing anymore??? 12:45 literally unplayable 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 654 points, T:1430, killed by an enormous rat 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 95 points, T:705, killed by a sewer rat 12:48 been that while for a looong time in evil 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:10037 (3:53:11) 12:50 I'll just use cleaver then I guess 12:51 dual wield dwarvish short swords early game 12:52 damn, now that these are gauntlets of purity i bet i can't just beat black dragons to death with my hands any more 12:52 I've disintegrated the GoPur 12:52 slightly frustrating experience 12:53 :') 12:53 that emoticon does not express me irc 12:53 i once found an amazing bones where a spectre npc's pet titans were swinging frost brand and sunsword -- and i was in black dragonscale. they poofed both those artifacts on me 12:53 was very disappointing! 12:54 aw :( 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1396 (0:14:06) 13:01 oh what happened to gutso? 13:01 thought he was in gehennom 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2681 (0:10:16) 13:07 drained an @npc healer from 28 to 7 and i still can't hurt him :-) 13:09 ran out of spell power at level 2,hahaha 13:09 lol 13:09 I don't think I 13:09 ever saw one of those cast a healing spell 13:11 finally killed him! had to drain him past level 0 13:11 asshole disenchanted/unblessed half my gear 13:14 what a dick 13:14 i know right 13:14 what kind of game dev allows this to happen 13:14 prob also a dick 13:15 he never figured out he should run away, for which i think him 13:16 I havent seen anyone forge shadowblade yet 13:16 is that the athame? 13:16 yes 13:16 see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Forged_Artifacts 13:17 k2 I really want to but I just cannot seem to get grimtooth 13:18 what wins, chromatic scale armor or shadowblade? 13:18 maybe I should play a rogue sometime. get gifted grimtooth and then crown for stormbringer 13:19 its geared towards rogues but any dagger wielding class would benefit using it 13:19 oops i did this wrong.... i assume if earthquake creates a pit under a boulder, the boulder autofills it? 13:19 um 13:19 i'm not sure 13:20 it would be whatever vanill anethack is for that 13:20 man if magicbane was still an athame dual wielding it and shadowblade could be cool 13:20 krm26 I think so 13:20 k2, does purity protect from lifestealer max hp loss? 13:20 is that "death magic"? 13:20 no it isnt 13:20 ok i'm definitely retreating then 13:21 life drain drains levels. death match can outright kill you or drain max hp 13:21 *magic 13:21 am i misremembering? i thought lifestealer did max hp drain on top of level drain 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) stole 13 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Manlobbi's general store, on T:11950 (4:25:55) 13:22 13! highway robbery 13:23 well level drain will decrease your max hp, but only because you lost a level 13:23 dbanethacker what kind of a monster are you??? 13:23 right 13:23 monster? No - I'm a monk that's a giant. 13:23 so i'm on drugs? i thought vlad could toast max hp even when drain resistant 13:24 no he cant 13:24 and also, generated monster difficulty level keys off your max level achieved, not current level, right? so no point in draining myself back down into my 20s 13:24 he doesnt employ death magic 13:25 confirmed -- "The boulder falls into a chasm!" 13:25 'generated monster difficulty level keys off your max level achieved, not current level, right?' i'm not sure 13:25 i've always ASSUMED that...otherwise, letting vlad eat 15 levels off me would be pretty tempting 13:25 the npcs are just so hard to take 13:26 once you kill rodney, all bets are off for monster generation. so at that point, might as well get to exp lvl 30 13:27 same old bug: vlad will not enter the ex-boulder square where the boulder filled the pit earthquake dug. 13:27 wait 13:27 i thought it was a normal tile and the boulder disappeared 13:27 waiting 13:28 it looks like a normal tile now. but vlad won't enter it 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:102738 (1 day, 14:36:18) 13:28 what i mean is, i thought that bug happened if say you picked up/moved the boulder, or it was destroyed 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:102740 (1 day, 14:36:28) 13:28 not that a pit was generated under it 13:29 earthquake opened a pit under it. get the immediate chasm filled message, no boulder, normal looking square; vlad treats it as a boulder 13:30 what caused the earthquake? drum of earthquake? 13:37 fill_pit() calls flooreffects() 13:37 trap is removed, as is the boulder 13:37 any objects in the hole.pit are buried... 13:38 hmm 13:38 code looks the same between evilhack and vanilla 3.7 13:38 i wonder if this happens in vanilla as well 13:38 yes, was using drum 13:39 hrm 13:39 the teleporting monsters have always been twitchy with respect to vanishing boulders in my experience 13:39 i think i've seen an ex-boulder a demon prince wouldn't enter; then, a normal monster walked there and was killed; THEN they would teleport there 13:41 i dunno :/ 13:47 ugh i can't decide if i can squeeze out a 5th wish if i should conclusively prove that i can't get frost brand or not 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 8538 points, T:3536, poisoned by a giant cockroach 13:49 my money's on it lying on the ground somewhere in the dungeons of doom 13:49 hmm i cant recreate this behavior 13:49 the boulder thing 13:49 I've seen it too, with covetous monsters and boulders 13:50 but it's very... spontaneous. sometimes they're fine sometimes they're scared of nonexistent boulders 13:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:50 to reproduce in wizard mode: enter vlad's level. read blessed earth. play earthquake. repeat 8,000 times until just the NE boulder disappears :-) 13:52 didn't we discuss this earlier? 13:52 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:52 we have yeah but i've never seen a solution 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 8796 points, T:6864, killed by a dwarf lord 13:54 yeah idk what the solution is, I'm not even sure if it's exactly the same thing that krm26 is describing. the thing I identified wasn't literally that the spot was being treated as a boulder, just that because of intricacies of the covetous monster teleport algorithm it wouldn't select that spot to teleport to because of the range from the stairs 13:54 something like that 13:55 the no-go square was a diagonal 13:55 so maybe there is a distance check that uses 1 instead of 1.5? 13:56 that would be a pretty rookie mistake for nethack tho 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1096 (0:08:04) 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:32, choked on a food ration 13:58 sooo tasssty 13:58 hehe 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Trt Mal Law) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:1141 (0:09:18) 13:58 tortle? gutso's getting ambitious 13:58 i don't think there's anything like a diagonal check because they don't move one square at a time, just teleport around in medium-length jumps 13:58 I hate tortles >:( 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 38 points, T:74, killed by a fox 14:00 hmm 14:08 well sigh 14:09 le sigh 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14405 (5:18:57) 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2557 (0:09:17) 14:30 Oh no you're going to fix the Demon Skip K2? My next run was going to be a no demon go 14:31 next version 14:31 I better get crackin 14:40 demon skip? 14:48 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:50 ugh he left 14:50 i was gonna explain 14:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:52 k2 I am back please explain :) 14:52 heh 14:52 ok so 14:53 you can levelport past the demon boss levels if you want. wasnt a big deal in the past because if you did that, you still had to come back up thru gehennom with the amulet. cant tele with the amulet 14:53 now with purgatory, you dont back up through gehennom 14:54 oh interesting 14:54 i wrote a patch last night that addresses this, but it'll break saves 14:54 I'm tempted to try it, but the demon bosses are the most fun part of gehennom 14:54 so take advantage while you can hah 14:55 maybe I'll go for a run where I get all the bosses gated 14:55 the patch doesnt make it impossible to bypass the demon boss levels, just makes it so its no longer easy to do so 14:56 k2 what's your favorite demon lord/prince 14:56 oh gosh 14:56 that's a tough one 14:57 orcus i think 14:57 baphomet is fun too 14:58 baphomet is one of my favorites 14:58 although I think lucifer probably takes top spot 14:58 i feel like i could have made him more interesting 14:58 probably 14:59 I just like how scared he makes me lol 14:59 \o/ 15:00 if you can make a game that elicits more than just joy and anger, you're doing it right imo 15:00 for sure 15:00 Demon boss that makes us horny when 15:00 i think krm26 said that's already finished 15:01 n=1 15:01 not very scientific, but i trust him 15:01 :D 15:01 vaderflag graz'zt is apparently lord of pleasure in dnd or something 15:02 but it's hard to get that lustful over an ampersand 15:03 what did i do now? leave for one minute and you become an n=1 15:03 hahah 15:04 heh 15:04 needed a break after chasing an npc down 11 levels until it ran out of digging 15:04 i would love a "wand of punishment" to stick a ball on those asshats and slow them down 15:05 i'd totally live with npcs zapping me with it all the time 15:05 or if there was a way to use the iron hook or bullwhip, or spray them with spiderwebs 15:05 that's like one of those evil patch ideas 15:05 damn runners 15:06 krm26 the trick is to do enough damage to them that they die before they run away (pro tip!) 15:07 i wonder how many bugs would spawn by allowing monsters to be punished (ball & chain) 15:07