00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:1706 (0:31:35) 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:81492 (21:31:00) 00:08 -!- Loggers_X has joined #evilhack 00:08 !lastgame abdlabl 00:08 Loggers_X: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Abdlabl/evilhack/dumplog/1674009800.evil.html 00:09 wrong one :/ 00:09 -!- Loggers_X has quit [Client Quit] 00:39 ? 00:42 -!- Loggers_X has joined #evilhack 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Abdlabl's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2688 (0:42:49) 00:46 Novice... 00:46 Remind me what that is 00:47 I just woke up so my NetHack brain isn't fully engaged 00:49 monk I believe 00:49 yeah monk 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3389 (0:48:44) 00:51 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 00:53 Right 00:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:54 ...oh huh 00:54 There's a rival chaotic priestess waiting for me 00:54 I was just going through inventory and finally spotted her when I eyeballed the screen again 00:55 Tough looking one, thankfully sleep ray put her out 00:55 Illithid too 00:55 which is why I saw her 00:56 White-scaled armor 00:57 Druzzusk the Lama casts a spell at you! A servant of chaos appears! The white dragon bites the succubus of Loki. The white dragon claws the succubus of Loki. The white dragon misses the succubus of Loki. The white dragon swallows the succubus of Loki. "Burrrrp!" The succubus of Loki is killed! 00:58 lol nice 00:59 Well that's not on, she cast vulnerability to cold at me 00:59 my game's going quite slowly but quite well, pet gold dragon and two magic lamps 00:59 umbire that's annoying 00:59 Back to sleep with you 00:59 I kinda dislike the vulnerability spells they last sooooo loooong 00:59 cancelled herself on my armor at least 01:00 Thankfully not taking a lot of cold damage 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8504 points, T:4500, killed by a piranha 01:00 This is a DPS race I can easily win barring shenanigans 01:00 F 01:01 got teleported and instantly cornered by double piranha 01:01 why video game 01:01 why you do this 01:01 F 01:01 just let me get far with a good start for once instead of having a stupidly squishy mid game monk 01:01 (again) 01:01 lol 01:02 I die to those damn double piranhas too much 01:02 @e?piranha 01:02 piranha (;) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 bite physical, 2d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, oviparous, passes-bars 01:03 ...okay apparently my pet mind flayer snatched a charging scroll at some point 01:03 just charged a poly wand with it 01:04 just saw that 01:04 bit of a waste :/ 01:04 I'm 01:04 not exactly complaining? 01:04 more worried about them getting cute with it and turning something into an alhoon 01:04 you can use #loot to get it back right? 01:06 Yeah but like I said it's not pressing and I have wands of my own 01:06 fair enough 01:06 (incoming alhoon death) 01:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 45 points, T:202, killed by a death ray 01:08 whoa water demons can summon bosses other than yeenoghu or juiblex 01:09 lmao of course they can 01:09 I had one spring Lolth on me 01:09 just happened to me lol 01:09 Also I should be competent enough to fight an alhoon off 01:10 true that 01:10 Though I'd rather that not happen until I can get the Mitre greased 01:10 grease is one of those things that either turns up every four seconds or never in my runs 01:10 I can never seem to find it when I actually need it 01:12 Shame the mace got canceled, I was hoping to use its enchantment in forging 01:12 oh does enchantment carry over in forging? 01:13 Yes, it uses the higher of the two components 01:13 very cool 01:14 I was thinking of making a tricked out hammer or something similar 01:14 forging is such a nice feature 01:14 some weapons in vanilla are just obscenely rare for no particular reason 01:15 ah yeah don't the heavy hammers do good damage? 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:453 (0:04:52) 01:16 Mhm 01:16 Also I wouldn't say for no reason per se 01:16 I'd absolutely say that about shuriken but idk how many other things 01:16 I was mainly thinking of shuriken yeah 01:17 broadswords kind of, but elven broadswords are common and they're better anyway 01:17 You usually see broadswords on soldiers yeah 01:18 tridents come to mind as pretty rare as well 01:19 man I wish tridents got more love they're so cool :( 01:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:996 (0:11:04) 01:24 actually yeah 01:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2607 (0:17:04) 01:28 backup gloves are always good 01:28 I've only gotten Demonbane so far 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4674 points, T:2735, killed by a soldier ant 01:29 accidentally angered priest with scroll of light 01:29 forgot that happens 01:30 Yeah that's probably the "worst" case of muscle memory death possible 01:30 man all these hard games cannot be good for me I need to find something easy to play while being angry at nethack 01:30 with what's such a normally innocuous spell 01:30 yeah it's unfortunate 01:32 It doesn't seem too obvious either; I always just pictured it like part of the room becomes magically less dark, like flipping a light switch. Not some offensive light power lmao 01:32 but it's funny so I like it 01:32 Gives light an offensive use, which is genuinely a good thing 01:32 honestly yeah 01:32 Just wish there was some level of indication lmao 01:33 at least it's not as bad as some other YASDs 01:33 like falling to death 01:33 I feel like there should really be a yes/no prompt for that one 01:35 There are at least text warnings now for Ice Queen and Vlad 01:35 yeah 01:35 I forget who had to die to spark the ice queen change 01:36 I think Frozty or Lacca 01:36 ah yeah I think it was lacca 01:36 always sad to see that 01:36 oh back on the subject of polymorph shenanigans there's a chameleon nearby 01:36 easy enough kill, just topical 01:37 lol 01:37 ...wait a tick 01:37 I absolutely love chameleons because, without fail, late game they turn into newts and in the early game they turn into alhoons 01:37 was this illithid wearing a helm of telepathy 01:38 that seems mildly redundant if true 01:38 that's a bit redundant 01:38 haha yeah 01:38 got it as a gift from god and just wore it for AC 01:40 Well +4 is hard to turn down 01:41 and now there's another mind flayer 01:41 people all day today 01:41 they just don't know when to quit 01:41 well anyway, I'm gonna go to bed 01:42 -!- Loggers_X has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:42 Sleep well, I was gonna say 01:44 LMAO this one was a doppleganger 01:44 and yep, helm of telepathy 01:57 Think that priestess had a cloak of MR too 01:57 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 02:06 'lo 02:10 moring umbire 02:10 It'd be nice if #overview specified the types of shop 02:10 It doesn't? 02:12 Oh yea 02:17 I have plenty of gold but I wanted to sell off this one thing, can't remember where a compatible shop was off the top 02:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:19 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:27636 (1 day, 8:20:29) 02:20 Decided to give the MMF that cloak of MR from the priestess 02:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 02:42 Oh huh, I can make barding for my dragon if I really wanted to 02:57 Is it possible to have spiked barding with an oprop or no? 03:05 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15 I honestly feel like there should be a recipe for gauntlets of power 03:26 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 03:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 185510 points, T:24892, decapitated by a shambling horror 03:29 How do you look up a monster?  Is decapitation a new SH thing? 03:29 (how do you look up a monster here in Libera Chat?) 03:32 @e?jabberwock 03:32 jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 2d10 bite physical, 2d10 bite physical, 2d10 claw physical, 2d10 claw physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravis 03:32 Shambling horrors vary from game to game, and you have to kill one in order to actually get their attack lineup 03:32 !lastgame 03:32 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1673891168.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1673985249.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/evilhack/dumplog/1673962673.evil.html 03:32 shambling horrors remain unknown in evilhack I think? 03:33 hackem has the nice ID after kill or probing 03:33 @e?shambling horror 03:33 shambling horror (U) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: none | Align: 0 | carnivore, nopoly, passes-bars 03:33 No, k2 borrowed that 03:33 I killed one and got info on it after 03:33 ah ok, nice! 03:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9760 (2:42:21) 03:34 dbanethacker vorpal beheading is one of the possible attacks if you are unlucky 03:35 I feel like Dumbledore whose Every Flavor Jelly Bean was earwax.  My SH just **happened** to have beheading as an attack.  Alas. 03:36 Ok, well, there's a nice bones pile on Level 25 if anyone wants some goodies. 03:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10332 (2:44:49) 03:57 Red-scaled armor on this dwarven samurai 04:02 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:06 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:21 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:56 ruhroh, this is a very late Aphrodite 05:02 rings! 05:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:919 (0:13:04) 05:04 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:29463 (1 day, 11:04:57) 05:07 First crystal chest, still no knock/opening wands 05:11 and hit two trap doors in quick succession 05:11 annoying! 05:11 blessed bell of opening? 05:14 No charges 05:14 no new scrolls yet either, have a marker to charge too 05:14 Moot point though, just found Knock 05:14 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 05:20 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:21 ah, nice 05:25 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 05:33 -!- chao is now known as stenno 05:51 How does a giant centipede hide under a tiny pile of coins??? 05:52 @e?giant centipede 05:52 giant centipede (s) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -6 | Atk: 6d8 bite drain str, 1d4 touch wrap | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, conceals, thick hide, oviparous 05:52 Not poisonous, so I can feed it to my dragon 06:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4544 points, T:2924, killed by a cadaver 06:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:36 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:67619 (20:20:51) 06:42 You hear an eerie, ominous wail. 06:44 that eerie ominous wail is me accidentally dumping all my escape items and then getting swallowed by a sea dragon 06:46 hello 06:46 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack 07:08 Tried to save an acolyte from illness, made everyone mad at me instead. 07:08 Ok. 07:08 you are interfering with the natural order, you fool! 07:09 That seriously needs fixing. 07:12 K2: ^ cast cure sickness at an acolyte that caught zombie illness as a chaotic centaur priest, got punished because Reasons™ I guess 07:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:44969 (8:12:37) 07:15 Umbire that's a vanilla thing 07:15      As a chaotic non-Healer, casting a healing spell on a pet or peaceful creature, per creature. 07:15 -1 alignment 07:15 at least K2 allowed it for pets 07:16 That's an alignment penalty, not a needless angering of peacefuls 07:16 Man whatever 07:16 Guess I just get fucked 07:16 oh sorry 07:17 anger, I misread 07:17 Mhm. 07:17 the wound is still raw 07:17 Oh well, guess I'll just have to wish for a fucking staff of enchantment or whatever and then pacify everyone 07:17 and then get all my fucking books back 07:17 if it makes you feel any better, i blew 7 wishes and failed to get the ring of p'hul so i could stop carrying the stupid ball of liberation :-) 07:17 It doesn't. 07:18 i really need a late-game bones, haven't found one in a year 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:45262 (8:17:36) 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:33267 (1 day, 13:23:57) 07:23 ...I mean, sure...? 07:26 "This tree seems to be petrified." Is that new? or is it an artifact of my axe being made from bone? 07:29 YASI: stone axe can chop down petrified trees 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:70247 (21:14:11) 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:45787 (8:29:58) 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45789 (8:30:01) 07:32 go go reba! 07:35 "This tree seems to be petrified." on the second level? Defence against sneaking past the snowman by flying across the chasm I guess. 07:38 sooooo tell me about his Lucifer fellow... 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33676 (1 day, 13:39:36) 07:39 when I get the amulet there's another level? 07:39 Now to eat the quantum mechanic tin I made for just such an emergency 07:40 i've only done him once and he was terrifying (he gated in demo and yeeno for me) 07:41 yikes 07:41 666 HP to beat 07:41 yeah.. I don't even have dragonbane(yet.. kinda gave up) 07:41 so you keep pushing west after grabbing the amulet, beat lucifer, and run like hell through the other levels trying to avoid everything 07:41 i wore alchemy smock for kathryn 07:41 the other levels are all new? 07:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:41 yeah 07:42 at the end there is a portal going to the castle 07:42 and as far as i can tell they are basically playing tag with the scary @npcs who will steal your amulet 07:42 i'd have a shot at the realtime if it were the old endgame, but i have a lot of prepping to do 07:42 i didn't let anyone ever get next to me because i was too scared 07:42 sensible 07:42 it also took me 6 potions of paralysis and 3 scrolls of earth to make it through the 3 demon princes 07:43 what role? 07:43 i normaly don't pack all that para, it was a pure fluke that i was prepped enough 07:43 you'd think i'd remember that, hahaha 07:43 i never use them 07:43 haha i can look it up 07:43 i'm gonna look at all the ascensions 07:43 priest 07:43 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 666 points, T:640, killed by falling down a mine shaft 07:43 that explains it -- really bad damage output 07:44 Loggers did get past Lucifer as monk, but the splatted :-( 07:44 yeah, well. I'm playing weaponless. although, I've gotten like a dozen weapons from god so maybe he's trying to tell me something 07:44 * then 07:44 that sucks 07:44 if you are a weaponless monk hold demonbane and magic missile lucifer to death :-) 07:45 i do have demonbane 07:45 what does holding it do? 07:45 shut off his gating 07:45 oh nice 07:45 no "poof! graz'zt" 07:45 which would have ended my game right there 07:46 good luck! you can be the 8th 8.1 ascender 07:46 boulder fort and massive amounts of sliver shuriken could work for monk 07:47 fortunately Lucifer doesn't wake up early and there is time to prepare 07:50 i wish i had watched one of y'all... maybe i'll d/l and watch a ttyrec 07:50 mine was gross, you should watch an elegant VaderFlag or mobileuser ascension 07:51 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 07:51 !tell dbanethacker Oh, well I found your bones 07:51 Will do, Umbire! 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:33971 (1 day, 13:52:25) 07:53 basically remodeling the floor with all these fuckin' boulders 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 1224 points, T:1270, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 0 points, T:6, killed by a goblin 07:55 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 28 points, T:49, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:56 Upshot of that is I can make that wish I wanted 07:58 Oh, had Dragonbane and Mjollnir 08:00 Real pick of the litter here, guess I can double back to Ice Queen and go for Hesperides 08:00 luckwagon :-) 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 619 points, T:780, killed by a gnome lord 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 219 points, T:552, killed by a water demon 08:07 Saves me crowning as well 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 366 points, T:804, killed by an elven dagger 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:46795 (8:46:04) 08:20 * rebatela sighs 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:921 (0:07:24) 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) performed her first genocide (water nymphs), on T:1032 (0:08:05) 08:26 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/29a1781a533c...df1320ef225d 08:26 [EvilHack] k21971 df1320e - Fix: cure sickness being cast on a peaceful monster that wasn't sick would anger it. 08:30 I find the most corner case ass shit, I swear 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:103156 (1 day, 8:20:29) 08:42 One of the more amusing outcomes of all this and the bones after is I now have a mundane silver bell 08:43 where did you get the marker, umbire? bones or soko? 08:43 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 08:44 wish? 08:44 Goblin King? 08:44 oh nice 08:44 yeah there, Goblin King 08:45 Haha nice, goggles 08:48 Wow, pretty fast famili-- +7???? 08:48 Well shit 08:49 ugggghh defeated by kathryn 08:49 man i hate convicts 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:48410 (9:08:06) 08:52 nooooooo 08:52 Chih Sung-tzu is a horrible tease 08:53 Wand of death ID'd 08:53 And speed monster, whee 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:103937 (1 day, 8:33:55) 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 173 points, T:372, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:55 No go on that lamp 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:48722 (9:11:32) 08:56 OR that one what the fuck 08:56 Back to the original plan of "storm the Castle" 08:59 Oh, before I forget 08:59 mobileuser: i think i'm either gonna have to try and wish (and possibly waste them) or wear alchemy smock... most spell failures go down to 8% without robe so it's not that bad 08:59 K2: Do scare monster scrolls work against shambling horrors? 08:59 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 08:59 but i'd have to get MR from amulet/eyes if i did that 09:00 if I knew I'd get it in one wish it'd be a no brainer, but i don't want to waste a wish and NOT get it lol 09:01 Umbire AFAIK it depends on if they are mindless or not, but K2 will know best of course 09:01 they dont 09:02 even the ones with a mind? 09:03 I'll add that to the wiki then 09:05 hmm wait 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 682 points, T:1512, killed by an orcish dagger 09:05 i think shamblers might actually be affected by scare monster 09:05 so long as they dont spawn as mindless 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 5276 points, T:2802, killed by a white unicorn 09:06 or arent berserk 09:07 e word could even work on them 09:08 right, I was right then :-) 09:12 bah, can never remember if you can enchant weapon safely at +5 09:12 Seems so 09:13 +3 armor, +5 elven and weapons 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:254 (0:04:54) 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:72358 (22:59:27) 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1314 (0:10:07) 09:18 Umbire, that latest fix is live 09:18 Coo, thank you and apologies for the angry 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:460 (0:08:54) 09:19 I think I have the most dangerous stuff from dba's bones, gonna head towards the Castle now 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:72862 (23:04:15) 09:21 Could also go for Ice Queen and Hesper... nah 09:22 And right on cue, hill giant shaman almost gets to the bag 09:24 Oh right, I can actually push beyond 18/** 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:1795 (0:19:47) 09:27 OOP hello beholder 09:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:28 @e?beholder 09:28 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravis 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) had a blessed steel helm of telepathy entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:39414 (11:37:05) 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:73095 (23:21:10) 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:39575 (11:44:30) 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39577 (11:44:37) 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7377 points, T:2446, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:46 Just had a thought 09:46 Is Graz'zt fooled by displacement? 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:2660 (0:41:45) 09:49 What do you mean giant centipedes can leap at you 09:49 What else they gonna do with all those legs 09:55 i was so thrown off the first time i died to one of those things... they hit HARD 09:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 143 points, T:442, killed by a fox 09:56 ok probably more like the first 5 times i died to one of those things 09:59 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, killed by a scroll of genocide 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class @), on T:3 (0:00:14) 10:00 centipedes can jump. seen it first hand 10:00 when iw as stationed in hawaii, we'd come across huge centipedes, some over a foot long. aggressive as hell, can run fast, they'll chase you 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:40253 (12:01:53) 10:00 and they leap 10:01 buddy of mine who took a bullet from an ak-47, was bit by one once, said the pain between the bullet wound and the bite were similar 10:01 nasty fuckers 10:02 Yeesh 10:05 aaaaaaaAAAAA 10:05 trapped ki-rin statue 10:05 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 10:06 where has qt been? 10:06 No idea 10:06 :( 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1037 (0:05:07) 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (monks), on T:1 (0:00:04) 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 10:09 Lava maze castle 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a lurker above, on T:3247 (0:53:13) 10:09 i like that one umbire 10:09 I like that one the best for some reason 10:09 heh 10:09 jinx 10:09 ;) 10:10 it is the best for fast egress to/from gehennom 10:10 well, for starters you can go down to the valley first 10:10 hehe 10:10 more jinx 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 15209 points, T:3667, killed by a Green-elf 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:1 (0:00:19) 10:14 wow 10:14 fountain? 10:14 turn 1 is IMPRESSIVE 10:14 i predict instadeath from poison 10:15 or from a newt 10:18 argh i really blew my chance with kathryn, if i'd only been more patient 10:25 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2304 points, T:2749, killed by the Goblin King 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:40712 (12:13:23) 10:35 krm26 :/ 10:39 do you get the soko luck penalty if a monster zaps striking and breaks boulders? 10:40 gonna have to read earth too 10:41 I don't think you get a penalty for the monsters 10:43 hmm in 3.7 jumping doesn't have a luck penalty anymore 10:43 bit weird as you could jump over the last pit then 10:44 i only took 4 blessed scrolls of fire, which wasn't enough -- my frost brand + only 100hp just can't do anything substantial to her before i croak 10:44 if i had waited and waited and scrounged up 2 more i coulda done it 10:46 ...just almost had a heart attack. apparently wife brought one of our tortoises in last night without telling me because of low temperatures, and it just tried to eat my toe under my desk 10:48 hahah 10:49 how big are they? 10:49 you cannot jump over the holes as the current will pull you down 10:50 Got the castle wand 10:50 Also yeah holes and pits prevent levitation/flight/jumping 10:50 in Soko 10:51 this one is a red-foot, so it is only the size of a soccer ball 10:51 i like to think that i'm not yet so senile that i would have failed to notice the sulcata, since it is a good 30 lb 10:51 although who knows 10:52 i am especially sensitized to stealth terrapins going for my tootsies because 15 years ago when i lived in chicago my wife's snapping turtle -- kept outside in a pond -- learned how to climb up stairs to our back porch, use the dog door, and lumber over to my desk to go for my pinkie toe 10:52 ah good point about the air current 10:53 only animal we've ever had that figured out how to use a dog door on her own, dogs included 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4041 (0:27:59) 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4480 (0:32:11) 11:05 0:1 wand, huh 11:05 Alright 11:06 ...there's no staff for enchantment spells. 11:06 I am going to unalive. 11:07 I don't know taming yet either, this fucking sucks 11:07 you might find that staff. they don't seem super rare 11:07 Reba. 11:07 My brother in christ. 11:07 It literally does not exist in the game. 11:08 really? 11:08 There are staves for every spell school except enchantment. 11:08 but you can wish? 11:08 yes, i thought there was one that didn't exist. i didn't know that meant you can wish 11:08 I cannot, as it happens. 11:08 oic 11:09 i thought you meant you didn't have enough wishes because wand was 0:1. gotcha (i think) 11:09 I don't even have any pressing wishes at the moment, honestly. 11:10 krm26: that's F'ing hilarious about the tortoise haha 11:11 umbire: i'm in a bind in my reglar game. I have killed everything except the wizard, but I really really want dragonbane and have spent hours altar scumming for it 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:41602 (12:53:31) 11:11 i have 2 wishes left, but have already made an arti wish 11:11 that one^^ lol 11:11 just the one? 11:11 * Umbire shrugs 11:11 yeah. so it's 50/50 right? 11:12 if you have 2 wishes left, odds are in your favor you'll get it 11:12 come on rebatela, this game i blew 6 wishes on my 2nd artifact wish and never got my ring! you can do it too! 11:12 I can't really decide so 11:12 unless you're krm26 11:12 haha that's why i DON'T want to do lol 11:12 no balls 11:12 ^ now you have to do it 11:12 lol 11:12 by the sixth wish i felt like i was guaranteed :-) 11:12 i'll also be pissed for wasting all those turns/time sacrificing for weapons i didn't need 11:12 krm26 maybe it already exists? bones somewhere? 11:13 i wish! but no 11:13 was having a fast game before that 11:13 no bones game 11:13 huh 11:13 just super shitty rng luck 11:13 that's the worst when you blow all the wishes and STILL don't get it 11:13 "standard" 11:13 when was this? your current game? 11:14 yup 11:14 damn 11:14 i regret nothing 11:14 if i do get a bones with a wand in gehennom i'm going right back to that dry well 11:16 hah 11:22 Wow, for once I get a wimpy shambling horror. All it does is 4d8 steal gold 11:23 \o/ 11:23 * K2 renames 'shambling horror' to 'box of chocolates' 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) had a blessed club entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:42061 (13:05:42) 11:23 grrr I'm level 23, don't give me a club 11:24 z - an Uruk-hai egg (1 aum). 11:24 I beg thine fucking pardon? 11:24 haha 11:24 There's also a fucking bugbea-- 11:24 how. 11:29 eh? 11:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:29 bones pile? 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:42404 (13:12:45) 11:30 No, I just walloped an NPC gnome tourist and these were the eggs they had 11:30 lol 11:31 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:31 Oh well that's easy then 11:31 That tourist was a total weirdo 11:32 just souvenirs from weird places 11:32 r - an uncursed orc-captain egg (1 aum) 11:32 LOL 11:32 s - an uncursed goblin shaman egg (1 aum) 11:32 Wow, captain at the age of zero, so much for meritocracy 11:32 i generated a tourist player, #loot(ed) their food 11:32 pit fiend eggs... 11:32 that's what they had 11:32 hah 11:33 this is definitely a bug 11:33 nice find Umbire 11:33 Best bug ever 11:33 i wonder if they'll hatch 11:33 I mean I have a peaceful bugbear walking about right now 11:33 they will hatch into a core dump 11:33 Trying to keep them away from my pets, else I'll actually feel bad 11:34 And there's the Uruk-hai 11:34 Life finds a way 11:35 hahahahaha 11:35 how if he hatches with starting gear, that is incredible 11:35 Goddamnit 11:35 Umbire check to see if they have gear 11:35 Well one of them's dead 11:35 Non 11:36 Uruk-hai literally just died, no drops 11:36 don't fix it 11:37 but... but... 11:37 -!- Umbire is now known as aoei 11:38 -!- aoei is now known as Umbire 11:39 might this generate eggs of unique monsters? 11:39 r - an uncursed Demogorgon egg (1 aum) 11:39 I don't think it'll hatch that monster 11:40 ccan you wish for it in wizmode lol 11:40 DELICIOUS EGG 11:41 it seems to only generate eggs of S_ORC monsters 11:41 either they're plain or S_ORC 11:41 how odd 11:41 oh can_be_hatched 11:41 lol there is a special case for scorpius because he is oviparous 11:41 hmmmm 11:42 How very curious 11:42 yesssss 11:42 you should be able to wish for oviparous uniques that are not scorpius 11:42 so 11:43 for eggs of oviparous uniques* 11:43 lets check if there are any (please let there be, please) 11:44 Ixoth 11:45 i think you can wish for Ixoth egg in vanilla too 11:47 looking into this, i found another bug 11:47 hmm 11:47 minor 11:47 Oh? 11:47 awhile ago i created a new monster, queen ant 11:48 but i didnt set up a condition for them in can_be_hatched() 11:48 meaning a queen ant will lay queen ant eggs 11:48 they have to come from somewhere 11:49 well, queen bees dont lay queen bee eggs 11:49 they lay killer bee eggs 11:49 what does this do #define BREEDER_EGG (!rn2(77)) ? 11:49 omg 11:49 do i have to do 100s of wishes to test this now 11:49 That's for stuff like winged gargoyles 11:50 where the mass majority of their eggs are just regular gargoyls 11:50 s/ls/les 11:50 ok there is an || 11:52 hmm but why doesn't it work then 11:52 ok i see what BREEDER_EGG is i think 11:53 there's a 1 in 77 chance a queen bee could lay a queen bee egg 11:53 'breeder' egg 11:53 yes 11:53 I WANT MY DELICIOUS IXOTH EGG 11:53 why it not work 11:53 lol 11:53 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:54 look in monst.c 11:54 see if ixoth can lay eggs 11:54 ixoth is also oviparous 11:54 hmm 11:54 its a dragon, of course it can lay eggs 11:54 is ixoth male or female 11:54 ooh hm 11:54 he 11:54 male 11:54 \o/ 11:54 nice one K2 11:54 team effort 11:54 stupid genders 11:55 I mean Scorpius should technically be male also 11:55 ooh but tiamat 11:55 ooooh 11:55 in evilhack, tiamat is special. she's flagged as both a demon and a dragon 11:55 lets see 11:56 also known as a "dragon", the "drag-" from dragon and the "-on" from demon 11:57 i just fixed the queen ant eggs bit 11:57 q - a giant ant egg (laid by you) (1 aum). 11:57 hmm Chromatic Dragon is female 11:58 chromatic dragon is NOT oviparous 11:58 Injustice! 11:59 thats so silly 11:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/df1320ef225d...202a8cb095a9 11:59 you expect the mighty Tiamat to just lay eggs like a commonplace beast!? 11:59 [EvilHack] k21971 202a8cb - Fix: queen ants were laying queen ant eggs. 11:59 Umbire: i expect to lay eggs like the male Scorpius for some reason 11:59 expect it* 11:59 stenno, past me probably made sure tiamat wouldnt start laying eggs or that the player could get chromatic dragon eggs 11:59 there is a very funny thing about Tiamat and her ah 11:59 Tiamat gives live birth, well-documented in the Enuma Elish 11:59 sowing seeds in D&D's edition lores 12:00 oh i see 12:00 heya qt 12:00 "she who bore them all" 12:00 howdy 12:00 we found a funny bug 12:00 nice, what is it? 12:00 player monster tourists, the food they can spawn with 12:01 sometimes their eggs are of the S-ORC variety 12:01 S_ORC 12:01 orc eggs? 12:01 yeah 12:01 nice 12:01 more specifically, goblin shaman eggs, or orc captain eggs, etc 12:02 but only from player monster tourists 12:02 ah hell, owlbear needs the same treatment 12:02 owlbear laid an owlbear egg 12:03 i need to look at little_to_big() 12:03 why shouldn't it lay an owlbear egg? 12:03 is it not supposed to be oviparous? 12:03 because baby owlbears exist 12:03 i will hunt for delicious unique eggs in other variants 12:04 oh 12:05 { PM_BABY_OWLBEAR, PM_OWLBEAR }, is in the grownups struct 12:05 hrm 12:05 oh wait 12:06 nevermind we're good 12:06 found hackem unique eggs i think 12:06 Girtab 12:06 Shelob 12:06 you dont find 'baby red dragon' eggs 12:06 just 'red dragon' 12:06 and it'll hatch a baby red dragon 12:06 hackemslashem: See above 12:06 whew 12:06 A ton of the above 12:07 confused myself there for a minute 12:07 Eggs are funny. A crocodile egg hatches a croc, not a baby croc 12:07 that sounds like a bug 12:07 It walks like a bug 12:07 its a bug 12:07 hackemslashem: do you have a wizmode shell handy? 12:08 hackemslashem: can you try to wish for 'Shelob egg' ? 12:08 I think I tested that in vanilla, this was pre-holidays I was thinking about this lol 12:08 (in hackem) 12:08 sho 12:08 *gasp* e - an uncursed Shelob egg 12:08 w000000t 12:08 NICE! 12:08 FIX UR BUGS! 12:08 :P 12:09 Girtab should work too 12:09 this bug is probably in quite some other variants 12:09 ahem, a spider is an arachnid, not a bug 12:09 hackemslashem: I just tested in vanilla, it does hatch a baby crocodile 12:09 so it sounds like a bug in wherever you saw it 12:09 Damn them, always one step ahead 12:10 hackemslashem, if i lay an egg as a crocodile, the egg hatches a baby croc 12:10 :) 12:11 related https://nhqdb.alt.org/?12 12:11 (evilhack) 12:11 this should have much more upvotes imo 12:11 lol 12:11 why is it -21? :( 12:11 ikr! 12:11 i upvoted 12:11 Guess it's hackem's fault: " You see a crocodile drop out of your pack! " 12:11 doing the right part 12:12 Can Shelob even lay eggs?? Never seen that in slashem 12:12 I actually saw a fully grown croc hatch from an egg in Evil I think 12:12 titans will wear the same stuff giants wear? helm, boots, gloves? 12:13 ok so... why the hell are player monster tourists spawning with orc eggs 12:13 Yes 12:13 lol 12:13 this is so hilarious 12:13 Umbire, probably the BREEDER_EGG effect 12:13 hackemslashem: shelob should be able to lay eggs, and even lay shelob eggs if BREEDER_EGG is true 12:14 which would lead to multiple shelobs maybe 12:14 hackemslashem: actually did that egg hatch lol? 12:14 K2 do you have a ttyrec or something where this happened? 12:14 there is a 1 in 77 chance that an egg laid by shelob will be a shelob egg 12:15 qt no 12:16 same with Girtab 12:16 where/when did it happen? 12:17 I actually saw a fully grown croc hatch from an egg in Evil I think 12:17 dunno 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7005 (0:54:35) 12:17 I think it was this current game 12:17 oh 12:17 maybe the best way to solve it is just to remove oviparous flags from uniques instead of hardcoding each monster in can_be_hatched 12:17 qt are you asking about the orc eggs? 12:17 yes 12:17 its in Umbire's current game 12:17 its easy to reproduce 12:18 how do you reproduce it? 12:18 wizmode, create a tourist, #loot their food and id the eggs 12:18 I have been doing that, they're all just "eggs" 12:18 make your exp level be 30 12:18 or something high 12:18 .... 12:18 The bug is why are they all *orc* eggs, right? 12:18 oh yeah 12:18 I see it 12:18 yup 12:19 i dont see it yet but i think i know what it is 12:20 somewhere they did a spe bonus on gear at higher level i think 12:20 *get 12:21 makemon.c yeah? 12:22 oh the watcher in the water in unnethack is an eel, not a kraken 12:22 no unique eggs in unnethack :( 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3574 (0:34:10) 12:23 qt, line 667 12:23 is that what you're looking at 12:23 corpsenm isn't the same as spe though 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3673 (0:35:04) 12:24 where are you seeing it then 12:25 oh i don't know where it's happening, I mean I was able to reproduce it 12:25 ah 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5383 points, T:3808, killed by a rabid rat 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:77348 (1 day, 2:11:08) 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) had a blessed alchemy smock entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:44252 (14:09:57) 12:30 i could force all eggs to be NON_PM 12:30 but i'd really like to know why its occurring in the first place 12:31 AWWW convicts can't tame peggy 12:32 hmm i think I know where it's happening 12:32 heh 12:33 for some reason ini_mon_inv thinks it is armor, and is overriding the "obj->dragonscales" (which is an alias for corpsenm) to turn it into dragon scaled armor 12:33 so this is aosdict's fault 12:34 :P 12:34 add "obj->oclass == ARMOR_CLASS &&" to makemon.c:698 12:34 and somehow trying to turn food into dragon-scaled armor makes... orcish eggs? 12:34 nice, i was already looking at that 12:36 Umbire: if you look at onames.h, dragon scales start at GRAY_DRAGON_SCALES (98) and end at CHROMATIC_DRAGON_SCALES (111) so it's setting corpsenm to something in that range 12:36 nice, its a giant ant egg instead of a goblin shaman 12:36 when translated to monster types, that's the range between PM_GOBLIN (98) and PM_ROCK_PIERCER (111 ) 12:36 more testing 12:36 MOAR 12:36 and it's mostly o monsters 12:37 It's all o monsters 12:37 not PM_ROCK_PIERCER 12:38 since the rock piercer is in the next class after 12:38 oh it goes to LAST_DRAGON_SCALES - 1 12:38 so yeah the final one it can actually be is PM_GOBLIN_KING 12:38 it is all o monsters, you're right 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:44616 (14:21:26) 12:39 Suddenly can't kick down any dead trees after punting the one blocking off the snow golem and the stairs 12:40 bleah, just gonna untrap this bear trap 12:40 qt this appears to do the trick 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:77907 (1 day, 2:23:30) 12:40 cool. that was a good one 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:77917 (1 day, 2:23:49) 12:41 nice find. i would have never remember that obj->dragonscales emulates corpsenm 12:41 maybe eventually but prob not 12:41 i didn't remember it offhand either 12:41 stenno will be sad 12:41 he said to not fix it 12:42 :< 12:42 heh 12:42 you still can choose to not fix it 12:44 as funny as it is, it needs to be fixed 12:45 that was probably affecting more things than just eggs, the reaosn it went there is because "objects[obj->otyp].oc_armcat == ARM_SUIT" is equivalent to "objects[obj->otyp].oc_skill == P_NONE" which is true of most (all?) non-weapon/non-armor items 12:45 so other things that use corpsenm (or some alias for it) and can be generated in monster inventory were probably affected too 12:47 only other thing that looks like it might have affected in some player-visible way is potions, which I guess would be marked as 'fromsink' (like the dummy potion created when you drink from a sink) 12:47 so probably that could screw up some messages or something, if you drank the potions from an mplayer 12:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/202a8cb095a9...9769698d8b81 12:47 [EvilHack] k21971 9769698 - Fix: higher level tourist player monsters spawning with eggs that could hatch S_ORC type monsters. 12:48 damn my pet titan randomly ported off somewhere to go feral and plot my death 12:48 qt yeah. implications are broad 12:49 the unique eggs wont hatch into uniques 12:49 this all gave me a wicked idea for a bunch of dragon-related o monsters 12:50 but the egg code surely is a mess 12:50 one could say it is scrambled 12:50 i am sure there are several bugs hiding in there somewhere 12:50 in vanilla i found another hardcoded thing related specifically to dragons 12:50 yeah if you have an ant egg for example 12:50 kinda sus 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:38003 (1 day, 18:52:16) 12:52 today is fix eggs day 12:53 I just thought of something else else 12:53 The EGGS R BROKEN! 12:53 K2, if I melted the ice bridge for Some Reason, would that still create water tiles? 12:54 it should yeah 12:55 i have not done any funkiness with ice tiles 12:55 is the bridge over a bottomless pit or something? 12:55 well you see............. 12:55 qt, in 0.8.1, the 2nd ice queen level now has open air 12:55 so you could turn it into a water bridge and swim across? sounds awesome 12:56 the floating water bridge 12:56 water park 12:56 which calls for a water slide 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:45276 (14:39:43) 12:58 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?4082 12:58 dracoliches are a thing in tabletop, mobileuser 12:59 qt have you been able to use chatGPT lately? 12:59 last few times i have logged in, says its busy 12:59 yeah I haven't tried in a few days but that happened to me last time I tried it 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2821 points, T:3453, killed by a gnomish wizard, while praying 13:03 there is a chatgpt bot in #botters 13:17 ah yeah, the dracoliches 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] UmberConductor (Pri Cen Fem Cha) had a blessed shield of mobility entrusted to her by Loki, on T:38362 (1 day, 19:19:12) 13:20 K2: cursed wand of make invisible removes invisibility, right? 13:22 I go away for a few hours and the backscroll is full of eggs 13:22 yeah 13:22 * K2 gives mobileuser a hard-boiled egg 13:23 is it an ixoth egg though 13:23 sure 13:23 That was a yeah to my question, right? 13:23 Or to mobile? 13:23 yeah 13:23 Aye 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:79389 (1 day, 3:06:51) 13:24 thanks for another silver aklys you wacky god 13:26 The barded white dragon swallows the freezing sphere. "Burrrrp!" You hear an explosion. The barded white dragon seems to have indigestion. 13:26 ^I swear I remember suggesting this 13:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaqdQhuvPi8 13:28 I think that's from vanilla Umbire 13:28 Hm 13:28 yeah dates back to 2002 13:29 lol if the swallower monster dies from the internal explosion, it gets "ripped open", badass 13:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:34 K2: Seeing weird stuff when fighting underwater. Can see descriptions of monsters fighting (probably on land) that I can't see underwater. Also, killer bees can fly over and attack me underwater. 13:35 same in vanilla afaik 13:35 Yea but we're BETTER than vanilla! 13:35 just like in real life when bees use depth charges 13:35 krm26 gets it 13:36 they might live somewhere with woos bees i guess 13:36 Like Rocky Road, or Mint Chocolate Chip... 13:36 wuss? wooos? i shouldn't use that word 13:37 Being able to see descriptions of monsters that you can't actually see does sound weird 13:37 And can hear squeaky board traps being set off 13:38 K2: https://youtu.be/-TnAMDjMPkU?t=148 13:39 do you think being underwater should make you deaf? I guess that makes sense 13:39 Umbire: nice 13:39 qt: Just going off my own experience, it's been a while since I've gone swimming though 13:41 yeah I do think it would be a reasonable choice 13:42 to make immersion in water cause deafness 13:42 not if you are a tortle 13:43 Go tortles! 13:43 you can still hear things outside of water if swimming and under the surface (in real life) 13:43 just really muffled 13:43 those damn phase boundaries 13:48 yeah I think doing it either way would be reasonable 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 35 points, T:63, killed by a water moccasin 13:57 this is one thing i worry about when new underwater branch is made - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L10 13:57 yeah there is a huge can of worms there 13:57 you basically need to expand/generalize the "lev but can't touch floor, > to descend" interface 13:58 so you can fly above/descend into water 13:58 or treat underwater level like plane of water when in the water 13:59 i don't think that is good enough -- because your underwater work should be applicable to areas where there is a mix, like in the mines, moat, etc. 13:59 you're going to want people to be able to transition between land, air, and water 14:01 elevation 2 bit field -- underground/water, ground/surface level, lev/flight 14:01 would actually simplify some existing areas of the codebase i bet 14:01 @e?centipede 14:01 centipede (s) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 4 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d3 bite drain str | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, conceals, oviparous 14:01 @e?giant centipede 14:01 giant centipede (s) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -6 | Atk: 6d8 bite drain str, 1d4 touch wrap | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, conceals, thick hide, oviparous 14:04 krm26 yeah 14:04 hmm 14:04 how is the underwater branch going to work unless it's like the WATER terrain in the plane of water? isn't it a problem if people can choose to float over it? 14:04 we'll want to solve this before starting work on the actual branch 14:04 qt yeah that's what i was thinking (plane of water behavior) 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:644 (0:09:45) 14:05 it is the most difficult but most rewarding course -- i'd arrange it so you can mark "water with air above" and "water with stone above", and do the elevation thing 14:05 you could still pop out into a non water area 14:06 hmm 14:06 krm26, treating underwater branch like plane of water might solve all of this 14:06 the whole thing seems like it's going to be very challenging to do, nethack just isn't really built to have complex levels that exist underwater 14:07 true 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1027 (0:14:56) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:80292 (1 day, 3:54:42) 14:14 boo balrog had angelslayer so now i can't ever get it 14:16 you know how the first archon you encounter will have either sunsword of demonbane? same for balrogs and angelslayer 14:16 i knew it was likely, didn't know it was 100% 14:17 man i would kill to be able to use that as my convict weapon 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1752 (0:23:36) 14:34 -!- taichi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40 K2 first balrog has Angelslayer? I don't think that is true? 14:40 It's only a chance 14:41 possibly 14:41 i'd have to look 14:41 odds would be good tho 14:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9769698d8b81...f334e3072835 14:43 [EvilHack] k21971 f334e30 - Fix: giant crocodiles and their eggs. 14:50 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 14:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2795 points, T:2692, killed by a piranha 15:03 krm26 check it out - https://academic.oup.com/jsm/article/20/1/38/6986842?login=false 15:03 TL;DR - taking viagra lowers the risk of heart disease significantly 15:04 so take it whether you need it for its intended purpose or not 15:04 😃 15:06 i think the main drug in viagra was made to prevent heart disease anyways, so 15:06 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:06 the side effects were just a bonus :) 15:07 yeah, blood pressure reduction IIRC 15:07 and then the test subjects reported some interesting side effect 15:07 heh 15:08 there is nothing we men won't stoop to to get our pills 15:09 side effects may include wife grinding up sleeping pills in your scotch 15:09 lol 15:14 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 11177 points, T:5158, killed by a piranha 15:27 how in heck am i gonna kill vecna without losing his drop :-P 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:45810 (14:52:56) 15:32 eh? 15:32 krm26? 15:32 eh? 15:32 K2? 15:33 how in heck am i gonna kill vecna without losing his drop :-P 15:33 oh the vecna thing? i'm a shitty convict with no good way to kill him without resorting to boulder fort range tricks which as often as not will drop him in the lava :-) 15:33 i am gonna have to architect a good efficient killing ground 15:33 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/aedef6442f76060564d4fb93722691e0cc8433e0 15:33 oh yeeeeahhhhhhh baby 15:33 thx for that 15:33 o/ 15:34 i thought you had indicated i could go hang when i whined about that earlier :-) 15:35 just gonna forge up a few more silver aklyses and i'll get to it 15:35 no 15:35 i just didnt feel sorry for you, thats all 15:35 but i'm so pitiful! 15:35 noooo 15:35 you'll understand where i'm coming from once you lose a few toes to your tortoises 15:36 how big are your pet tortoises? 15:36 sulcatta is about 30lbs, like a flat oblate toddler -- redfoot is like a really hard cat 15:36 hah 15:37 they are both rescued hit-by-cars, people illegally release their pets around here constantly 15:37 i'm just lucky our current rescues are so normal 15:38 there is also a 40 year old snapping turtle, but i omit it since not a tortoise 15:38 snapping turtles can be nasty 15:39 she's only got me once -- when i was pointing at her explaining to someone how she was too blind to accurately hit a target 15:39 of course 15:39 the RNG follows you into real life as well it seems 15:39 got a nice scar from that. it is my wife's favorite story about me 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:46199 (15:02:30) 15:44 woooo 15:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) refused to give up The Mitre of Holiness to the Arch Priest, on T:46502 (15:10:48) 15:52 does ANYTHING buy gjallar wake up vecna? 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) killed the Arch Priest, on T:46569 (15:13:44) 15:53 maybe a drum of earthquake? 15:53 i've tried that before without any luck, but i coulda been too far away 15:54 he seems like a deep meditator 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 605 points, T:613, killed by the Goblin King 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:1 (0:00:10) 15:55 drum of earthquake should work if you get close enough 16:03 sigh...he regens as fast as i damage him with my aklys. of course :-/ 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:945 (0:08:49) 16:05 disappoint to not even average 1 damage per turn with a +5 silver aklys 16:09 liches arent affected by silver 16:09 yeah, it is just what i have 16:09 still +5 16:09 i know i'm feedble 16:11 aklyses are pretty unimpressive damage wise unfortunately 16:13 ugh i am gonna die 16:13 just started a new valk game. in starting room, uncursed chain mail, bag of holding 16:13 its a trick! get an axe 16:15 whoa flind in the first mines level 16:15 I guess the mines flayer thing carries over to gnolls 16:20 well i've been throwing aklyses twice a second for 15 minutes. guess it will never happen 16:22 you're priest right? 16:22 alas no! convict 16:23 that's right it was umbire who's priest 16:23 k2: it looks like vecna will not teleport onto a square that had a boulder but has been force bolted 16:24 there we go, must have been some weird geometry 16:25 krm26 yeah we've seen that behavior before 16:25 acts like the boulder is still there 16:26 Sigh, can't even hit him with melee. guess i have no choice but to level up. damn you vecna! 16:26 if only there was a weapon nearby that did an insane amount of damage to vecna 16:26 if only... 16:26 :) 16:26 hmmmmm 16:26 i can't hit him with it, like not even 1 in 20 rounds 16:26 k2 that's a good idea you should implement something like that 16:26 i should 16:27 :P 16:27 Ah yeah too bad convicts don't get 2h sword 16:28 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:9524 (1:18:16) 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1561976 points, T:83425, killed by a touch of death 16:29 !lastgame 16:29 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1673811629.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1673827701.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/evilhack/dumplog/1673962673.evil.html 16:29 phew. that was sooooo boring 16:29 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 16:29 (nothing exciting to see there, i just killed myself wandering around) 16:30 K2: i dreamt of playing evilhack and it was very diabolic. stuff like "you can invoke this artifact to identify, but only for 2 times. and unless you use it on scrolls it has a 40% chance to fail and waste a try. and on artifacts it only reveals it is one." 16:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:31 heh neat 16:31 krm26 why? :( 16:31 i really shouldnt give you ideas 16:31 NetSysFire - i've thought of having an artifact you could invoke to ID stuff 16:31 more like a scroll of magic detection vs identify 16:32 also i had a pet black dragon and it breathed disintegration while i was in its line of fire and i lost my armor :( 16:32 ooof 16:32 that was realistic at least 16:32 just nothing interesting to do with the convict, so was seeing what i could do not breaking level 15. the answer was, not vecna 16:32 lol 16:34 !lastgame dbanethacker 16:34 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1674068123.evil.html 16:36 K2: the artifact i dreamt about was an amulet which conferred poison res, esp and apparently blocked intrinsic or extrinsic hunger, plus invoke to identify but only twice and then you cant do this ever again 16:36 hmm 16:36 a forged body armor artifact would be neat 16:37 'The Chain Mail Bikini of krm26' 16:37 lol 16:37 :P 16:38 there was also a cheap-ish item that would lifesave you, but you would be teleported into a challenge level and have permanent annoying intrinsics and be punished and stuff, so it would be hard and potentially simply a waste of time to continue 16:38 +20 AC but only coveres 0.02% of your body 16:38 *covers 16:39 gotta go, back later 16:39 only 0.2% of my body is important anyway 16:39 and it isn't the part you think 16:39 theres a game i like called lightning returns. and you can literally extinct all regular enemies you encounter. and the last one of its kind would be a super ugly pink to indicate its a boss and drop some nice unique item 16:40 "extinct all dragons to get all their special last ones' scales to manually forge tiamats scales" 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4243 (0:40:42) 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4278 (0:40:58) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:10965 (1:28:55) 16:50 i haven't had a nethack dream in a while (I have definitely had them though) 16:52 I had a dream once where I was permanently stuck as a shambling horror with no damaging attacks and teleportitis 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5528 (0:52:53) 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:47914 (16:15:12) 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Elf Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:47926 (16:15:24) 17:02 haha yes I got all vanilla soko levels 17:03 i'm finally learning the new ones, but still have to cheat on some 17:05 I've learned most of them, but now I'm starting to realize that they're just not as good as the vanilla ones, in terms of actually being a puzzle 17:05 most of them require you to walk around way more :/ 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:7835 (1:08:48) 17:10 Loggers autotravel solves a lot of time in sokoban 17:10 I usually use far travel or whatever it's called 17:11 oh man 17:11 jinx again 17:11 this needs to stop! lol 17:11 =D 17:12 mobileuser I use autotravel, but sometimes one boulder will take two or even three uses of it  (still a lot better than just running around though) 17:12 or fast travel, or whatever it's called. _ command 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8419 (1:13:08) 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 36223 points, T:8781, killed by an air elemental of Chih Sung-tzu 17:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1880 (0:22:59) 18:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:05 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:09 I wonder which hits harder Master kaen or this queen ant 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3632 (1:08:41) 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a leather cloak of protection entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14506 (2:05:30) 19:24 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3927 (1:25:20) 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:439 (0:02:38) 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:937 (0:07:01) 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1438 (0:11:40) 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:16599 (2:22:34) 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5876 points, T:2233, killed by a gnome lady, while frozen by a potion 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5291 (1:46:51) 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4701 (0:34:36) 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18139 (2:41:00) 20:21 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18995 (2:49:46) 20:31 he knows it's me and isn't giving dragonbane again 20:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 20:34 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1409 (0:19:38) 20:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48 trolls rae no joke 20:48 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4983 points, T:2562, killed by a water troll 21:04 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 8528 points, T:6937, killed by a bolt of lightning 21:06 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2628 (0:18:23) 21:28 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:19852 (2:59:15) 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:20396 (3:09:17) 21:50 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:50 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 7600 points, T:6395, killed by a champion of Brigit 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:20900 (3:17:14) 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:21834 (3:25:12) 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21838 (3:25:21) 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2042 (0:09:52) 22:07 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:22371 (3:28:33) 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed Gollum, on T:2556 (0:13:29) 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 3058 points, T:2744, drowned in a moat 22:17 Aren't monks supposed to start with see invisible intrinsically? I can lose it? 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:24510 (3:48:32) 22:36 1) yes 2) yes 22:45 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 301 points, T:865, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6866 (0:56:12) 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:28831 (4:07:50) 22:49 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Val Hum Fem Law), 222 points, T:403, killed by a gnome lord 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29225 (4:12:53) 22:54 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Val Hum Fem Law), 15 points, T:83, killed by a fox 22:54 huh what a start, turn 3 dog death 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:84846 (23:08:23) 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:84847 (23:08:30) 22:58 wow, I thought vlad was some random V. He went down fast! 22:58 thanks gauntlets of purity 22:58 what are gauntlets of purity/how do i get? 22:59 does vlad normally try to seduce? 23:04 he's never seduced me 23:04 rebatela: one of the new artifact forge recipes 23:04 grayswandir + dragonbane = gauntlets of purity. 23:04 oh nice 23:04 are you cool with spoilers? 23:05 oh hell yeah 23:05 ty for asking 23:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/3df66fcda715a11f5f106844e864823958f0e6f4/include/artilist.h#L340 23:06 very cool 23:06 25str, silver, power regen (not hungerless, tho) 23:07 awesome 23:08 I had 2 early magic lamps so I blew them on grayswandir and dragonbane right away. 23:08 been punchy faces all the way through gehennom 23:09 as a monk, that must be nice 23:10 yeah i usually wish for eota for the PW gen mostly... 23:10 but that sounds much better 23:11 this way you can wear a non-artifact amulet for MR. I got finger-of-deathed when my EoTA was stolen once :( 23:11 right 23:11 I even had silver kicking boots earlier and was one-shotting &'s. 23:11 we'll see how it goes when I get to the sanctum... 23:13 not sure if you caught it, but my last giant samurai forged Sword of Annihilation which was bananas 23:13 dual tsurugi of muramasa + annihilation. Still almost died to Lucifer 23:14 are these listed on the wiki at all, or does one have to dive into the artifact files 23:15 not in the wiki yet. I think that's Umbire's full time job :) 23:15 haha I see 23:15 huh you can kill the oracle 23:15 don't know how he does it! I can barely be arsed to update our own corp wiki when I do something. 23:15 how strong is she 23:16 bouquet: yes, congrats on the ascension! 23:16 not a lot of HP but she'll shred you with an end-game level magic missile barrage 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4264 (0:25:19) 23:23 -!- taichi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9611 (1:33:26) 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5611 points, T:5360, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 23:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:42 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1853 points, T:1187, killed by a gnome lady 23:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:44 holy crap!! https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/stephen-colbert-chronicles-of-amber-tv-series-adaptation-1235492097/ 23:44 speaking of Grayswandir... 23:47 pretty sure Zelazny was super high when he wrote Amber.