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00:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11800 points, T:5520, withered away, while praying
00:15 <Loggers_X> lame
00:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:43989 (9:51:35)
00:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43994 (9:51:47)
00:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering a giant ant corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:7413 (1:24:43)
00:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:44590 (9:56:33)
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00:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una), 17274 points, T:7868, killed by a dwarven watch captain
00:30 <Umbire> See what were you so worried about bouquet 
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01:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:657 (0:16:49)
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01:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1533 (0:22:10)
01:06 <Loggers_X> goblin king had a marker for me, and I've learned the genocide scroll :)
01:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1764 (0:24:14)
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01:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Orc Mal Una), 416 points, T:1044, killed by a giant bat
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01:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 3032 points, T:1229, killed by a gas spore's explosion
01:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scales", on T:685 (0:06:28)
01:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:70241 (16:44:13)
02:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2215 (0:27:47)
02:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:72409 (17:16:26)
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02:39 <Umbire> I really should play more local Evil
02:39 <Umbire> also start on Hackem soonish
02:40 <Umbire> I feel the latter wouldn't be right until I ascend Evil at least once though
02:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3996 (1:08:39)
02:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4159 (1:10:35)
02:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4232 (1:11:25)
02:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4384 (1:12:13)
02:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:73502 (17:40:39)
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03:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a knife entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:74688 (18:06:17)
03:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 1239 points, T:2207, poisoned by a killer bee
03:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:75365 (18:21:46)
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04:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:76654 (18:46:28)
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04:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13892 points, T:6724, killed by a mumak
04:11 <Loggers_X> @?mumak
04:11 <Hecubus> mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis
04:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Odin, on T:6971 (3:08:17)
04:19 <Umbire> @e?mumak
04:19 <Hecubus> mumak (q) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical, 1d6 hug physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis
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04:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:77950 (19:15:44)
04:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:78380 (19:21:11)
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04:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 248 points, T:733, killed by a water moccasin
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06:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful cauchemar, on T:3759 (1:00:47)
06:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4657 (1:11:20)
06:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5797 (1:21:15)
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08:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4450 (0:31:03)
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08:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1654 (0:12:26)
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08:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:399 (0:02:47)
08:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 3488 points, T:4364, zombified by an orc zombie, while helpless
08:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:723 (0:05:19)
09:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3332 (0:24:43)
09:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5296 points, T:3345, killed by a human zombie, while praying
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10:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1516 (0:51:35)
10:33 <Loggers_VIII> that's an interesting gift
10:33 <stenno> Bm
10:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of bone gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1665 (0:54:06)
10:36 <Loggers_VIII> for to hit ghosties with
10:39 <Loggers_VIII> "The orc swings his orcish broadsword named Elfrist at you.  You die..." EXTREMELY mean fortune cookie
10:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1958 (1:02:12)
10:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of high boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2149 (1:04:52)
11:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] AmericanJohnny (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 274 points, T:887, zombified by a diseased kobold corpse
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11:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:13037 (2:03:51)
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12:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8978 (3:42:58)
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12:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:9978 (4:05:13)
12:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:10089 (4:07:52)
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12:38 <K2> thats a decent 1st geno selection
12:45 <bouquet> it's always my first one if I'm engulfable
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12:46 <stenno> what was that, gelcube?
12:47 <bouquet> yup
12:47 <bouquet> unless I find early free action and/or magic breathing
12:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:46022 (10:27:16)
12:52 <bouquet> puhleeze
12:52 <qt> why did you do it bouquet 
12:53 <qt> why did you snuff out the life of that young freezing sphere
12:53 <qt> a bright young freezing sphere who trusted you implicitly
12:54 <bouquet> who are you, the SPCA!?
12:55 <bouquet> conjured matter bombs aren't sentient
12:55 <bouquet> next thing you know we'll be giving rights to lichen!
13:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15323 (2:20:07)
13:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:15388 (2:20:33)
13:02 * bouquet pours one out for Loggers_VIII 
13:04 <Loggers_VIII> always pickaxe :(
13:05 <qt> I am from the SPCA, society for prevention of cruelty to alhoons
13:05 <Loggers_VIII> I will genocide alhoons every game and there is nothing you can do to stop me :)
13:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5289 (0:50:30)
13:07 <qt> Vecna is the founder of the SPCA
13:08 <Loggers_VIII> lol
13:08 <Loggers_VIII> fits lore wise
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13:42 <qt> K2 I figured out how to fix underwater vision in unlit areas, so that you can see adjacent squares (i.e. putting on goggles doesn't _reduce_ your vision inexplicably)
13:42 <qt> I think so anyway
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13:42 <K2> oh nice!
13:42 <qt> this seems to work https://termbin.com/uqpx2
13:43 <K2> that's it?
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5701 (1:25:50)
13:43 <K2> figured it'd be some convuluted thing
13:43 <K2> massive amounts of code and hacks
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14:14 <K2> thanks qt
14:20 <K2> yeah qt that works great
14:20 * K2 loves simple fixes
14:20 <qt> cool
14:22 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/fb953bd70985...54e1690e0671
14:22 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 54e1690 - Fix: underwater far vision in unlit areas.
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14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:17369 (2:49:54)
15:00 <mobileuser> next contribution by qt will feature massive obfuscations to dazzle K2 :b
15:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:18577 (2:56:26)
15:08 <stenno> @e?wooly mammoth
15:08 <Hecubus> wooly mammoth ~1~ woolly mammoth (q) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 butt physical, 1d8 hug physical, 6d6 butt knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis
15:29 <hackemslashem> Hello!  I found a bug with monster spellcasters unstoning themselves. If they have rings it results in a use-after-free. 
15:29 <hackemslashem> https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/162
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15:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish ring mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10485 (2:21:25)
15:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:10937 (2:28:22)
16:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:11225 (2:31:46)
16:07 <K2> thanks hackemslashem
16:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:11701 (2:37:06)
16:08 <K2> i think amateurhour discovered this a long time ago... seems to have been forgotten
16:08 <hackemslashem> K2: Workin on a fix, I think there are 2 extra unneeded lines where rings are hit by stone-to-flesh
16:08 <K2> ok
16:09 <hackemslashem> It's really annoying to get this setup though, dumb necromancers keep putting their rings in bags, arg
16:09 <K2> give them a ring they'll want to wear that would be affected by munstone
16:09 <K2> there are several types
16:10 <hackemslashem> "Theladina the Ghoul Master puts a meat ring into her oilskin sack."  boom 
16:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:21530 (4:02:44)
16:11 <Loggers_VIII> I could have gotten that one myself man >:(
16:11 <K2> thats why you name them before you altar sac as a chaotic :P
16:11 <hackemslashem> Here's what I did: https://pastebin.com/CjtUCrHq
16:12 <Loggers_VIII> I usually do, but I couldn't find any elven broadswords somehow
16:12 <hackemslashem> Maybe qt or amateur could double check it.
16:14 <qt> why don't you just take their bag away hackemslashem 
16:15 <qt> you know you dont' have to drop things and wait for monsters to pick them up
16:15 <qt> you can use #loot on a monster
16:15 <qt> in wizmode
16:15 <qt> even an enemy
16:15 <qt> (not just pets, like it is in normal mode)
16:16 <K2> hackemslashem why did you re-add obfree just to comment it out?
16:16 <K2> heh
16:17 <K2> but yeah i see, there's 2 obfree going on there, one too many i think
16:17 <qt> hackemslashem: that's weird
16:17 <qt> why is the object freed at all?
16:17 <K2> i dunno
16:17 <qt> what's supposed to happen, that their rings are all destroyed when they unstone themselves?
16:17 <K2> no just turned to stone
16:17 <K2> in my defense - pulled from grunthack
16:18 <qt> what does this 'pseudo->quan = 20L' do?
16:18 <qt> quan doesn't seem to be used by bhito at a glance
16:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:12930 (2:49:13)
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22342 (4:13:16)
16:21 <hackemslashem> oh, you got the first draft, comments everywhere!
16:22 <hackemslashem> qt: Yea that looks suspect
16:23 <hackemslashem> 20 spellbooks of stone-to-flesh being cast just to make sure!
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16:24 <qt> i really don't understand why that `obfree(otemp, (struct obj *) 0);` is there at all, what it's trying to do
16:24 <qt> usually I can guess about what the intention was but I'm really mystified here
16:24 <hackemslashem> I believe someone thought the stone to flesh would destroy it or turn it into something else?
16:25 <K2> the extra obfree in the for() is prob my fault
16:26 <K2> the grunthack code only has the one
16:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 379 points, T:1320, killed by a giant bat
16:28 <qt> why did you do it K2
16:29 <qt> it makes me wonder if there was some bug that this was an attempt to fix
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16:29 <K2> lemme look, i think you're right
16:31 <K2> yeah i did a thing - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/710071c1561f6995a3f61d8f04462fff4c3d312e
16:31 <K2> almost 3 yrs ago
16:34 <K2> brb
16:35 <hackemslashem> Maybe removing the worn status doesn't matter either.
16:37 <hackemslashem> qt: Good call on using #loot, I always forget about that
16:45 <hackemslashem> Nope, definitely need the wear checking
16:45 <qt> what wear checking
16:45 <hackemslashem> "otemp->owornmask = 0L;"
16:46 <hackemslashem> and "misc_worn_check" lines
16:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) destroyed mightyquinn's ghost, the former Mercenary, on T:14739 (3:15:16)
16:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:14798 (3:18:17)
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16:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1589 points, T:1446, killed by a wand, while moving through the air
17:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "magic marker", on T:27580 (4:50:52)
17:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:27585 (4:51:25)
17:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed dragonhide +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:27589 (4:52:04)
17:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed silver +2 pair of kicking boots", on T:27591 (4:52:46)
17:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "grayswandir", on T:27596 (4:52:59)
17:08 <aosdict> "otemp"??
17:09 <K2> <@K2> in my defense - pulled from grunthack
17:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 616 points, T:979, killed by a bugbear
17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 18 points, T:49, killed by a newt
17:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:27856 (4:57:25)
17:13 <hackemslashem> ot
17:13 <hackemslashem> ^ little priest guy
17:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 264 points, T:648, killed by a steel dart
17:23 <Loggers_IX> just approached a cockatrice after nurse dancing, had forgot to put armor back on
17:23 <Loggers_IX> put gloves on and killed the bastard :)
17:23 <mobileuser> \o/
17:23 <Loggers_IX> this is character development
17:24 <mobileuser> that was a nice plot twist
17:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 48235 points, T:19877, killed by a touch of death
17:32 <Loggers_IX> !lastgame dbanethacker
17:32 <Hecubus> Loggers_IX: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1673476935.evil.html
17:32 <Loggers_IX> aww
17:32 <Loggers_IX> unfortunate death
17:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1627 points, T:1559, killed by a hobbit
17:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 103 points, T:405, killed by a kobold
17:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 0 points, T:27, killed by a fox
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17:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 29 points, T:176, killed by a goblin
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17:42 <dbanethacker> !lastgame
17:42 <Hecubus> dbanethacker: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1673530520.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1673563170.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/evilhack/dumplog/1673110714.evil.html
17:43 <mobileuser> !lastgame dbanethacker
17:43 <Hecubus> mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1673476935.evil.html
17:43 <mobileuser> alhoons suck
17:43 <dbanethacker> WTF ???  I was going along in Sokoban and got hit by an Alhoon and in 1 turn I was dead!?!
17:44 <Loggers_IX> chameleon
17:44 <mobileuser> must be
17:44 <mobileuser> it happens
17:44 <dbanethacker> Not sure if they should be able to turn into Alhoons or super high level monsters?
17:45 <mobileuser> well this is evilhack...
17:45 <Loggers_IX> I mean, it's a common enough death in vanilla to be instakilled by an arch lich or similar chameleon form
17:45 <dbanethacker> I was only experience level 11.
17:45 <dbanethacker> Yeah, the name fits, agreed.
17:45 <mobileuser> chameleons don't care :-)
17:45 <nabru> I've da vanilla deaths where I was killed byh a chameleon imitating an arch-lich or vampire or whatever I couldn't hanble
17:45 <Loggers_IX> unfortunately chameleons don't care
17:45 <nabru> *had *by *handle
17:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 273 points, T:585, killed by a mountain dwarf
17:46 <dbanethacker> Well, hopefully I come back as a ghost and left my stuff - some of it was semi-decent.
17:47 <dbanethacker> Never found a bag, though, so it's all cursed.
17:47 <mobileuser> not in sokoban I think
17:47 <Loggers_IX> sokoban is ineligible for bones, yeah
17:47 <dbanethacker> Hmmm, why is that?
17:47 <Loggers_IX> presumably so you can't skip puzzles if someone dies after doing it
17:47 <Loggers_IX> or fucks it up so you can't solve it
17:48 <Loggers_IX> even if the boulders reset positions the ghost would get in the way
17:48 <dbanethacker> by sokoban you gotta be able to kill a ghost, right?
17:48 <nabru> the problem is that the ghost might get in the way of solvign the puzzle
17:48 <nabru> at least IMHO
17:48 <Loggers_IX> ^
17:48 <dbanethacker> what's all of your stragedies for going through the game?
17:49 <dbanethacker> Me - I do the mines to get a luckstone and hopefully a uni horn.
17:49 <dbanethacker> then I go as far as I can.
17:49 <dbanethacker> Do you guys go as far as you can first, and then go back to the mines?  Or skip them entirely?
17:49 <mobileuser> minetown - sokoban - mine's end usually
17:50 <Loggers_IX> I do up to minetown before soko, if I'm feeling especially confident or stupid, or get a lucky wish I'll rush mines end
17:50 <Loggers_IX> after that comes soko, and after that I just rush to the castle as fast as possible
17:50 <mobileuser> if I already have MR then mine's end comes first
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17:50 <dbanethacker> Good pointers, thanks!
17:50 <krm26> it is all variable -- if you get an early altar the mines aren't so important for a lot of classes, though some will want to pound them for an aklys; sokoban is often an early goal when you have food problems. the luckstone is always the least of your worries in the early game
17:51 <mobileuser> and I don't rush the castle but we all have different paly styles :-)
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17:51 <mobileuser> * play styles
17:51 <dbanethacker> What about Katie?  Do you hit her before the castle or medusa?
17:51 <mobileuser> depends
17:51 <dbanethacker> an aklys?  What's it good for?
17:52 <krm26> aklyses are the best! great early ranged weapon for any class with club skill
17:52 <mobileuser> easy safe ranged wepaon
17:52 <krm26> mandatory for priests
17:52 <mobileuser> they return to your hands
17:52 <Loggers_IX> doing kathryn before castle or medusa seems like a death sentence unless you're playing a ranged build
17:52 <krm26> they keep zombies out of your brains
17:52 <dbanethacker> Oh - I didn't know they boomerang?  Wow
17:52 <Loggers_IX> I think it was added around 3.6
17:52 <dbanethacker> Yeah Katie is very tough
17:53 <krm26> you can do kathryn early if you meet a few conditions -- dragonbane from an early wish, etc
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17:53 <mobileuser> lev/flying, low AC
17:53 <krm26> i've sleazed her with a stack of scrolls of fire before when otherwise i couldn't touch her
17:53 <Loggers_IX> I do tend to do kathryn earlier if I get dragonbane
17:53 <dbanethacker> Nice!
17:54 <Loggers_IX> acid res is very important because of that annoying acid torrent
17:54 <dbanethacker> How does DB help with Kathryn?
17:54 <krm26> everything flows from what kind of early drops you get
17:54 <krm26> (acid res)
17:54 <krm26> she'll acid you into the ground without dragonbane or a smock
17:54 <krm26> or yellow dsm
17:54 <mobileuser> I was the very first player to die to Kat. acid blast of course.
17:54 <dbanethacker> ah, I haven't experienced that consistently so I wasn't aware.
17:54 <Loggers_IX> haha nice mobileuser
17:54 <dbanethacker> Ok Mobi - you get a gold star
17:55 <mobileuser> :-)
17:55 <Loggers_IX> sometimes she doesn't use it but she does enough of the time to warrant being scared as fuck about it if you don't have acid res
17:55 <dbanethacker> and DB helps with acid res.  got it.
17:56 <mobileuser> yellow scaled armor is also nice, also helps against medusa
17:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:33031 (5:41:10)
17:56 <krm26> gut generally even if she is feasible i don't worry about kathryn until i really want to kill some friendlies or need the extra unencumbrance
17:56 <Loggers_IX> I do kathryn for the MC from BotH
17:56 <mobileuser> sometimes it is my first BoH!
17:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 8 points, T:62, killed by a jackal
17:57 <dbanethacker> <<<--------  still waiting to ride a wooly mammoth as a giant !
17:57 <mobileuser> heh rebatela has done that I think
17:57 <krm26> god dammit why can't i put this polished barding on my pet rat
17:57 <mobileuser> unplayable
17:57 <krm26> this rat prejudice is crazy!
17:57 <dbanethacker> you gotta Cindarella it into a warhorse, krm26
17:58 <krm26> every single one of my rats at home is wearing barding
17:58 <mobileuser> facts
17:58 <dbanethacker> Does that make it a stainless steel rat?
17:58 <Loggers_IX> if you don't put barding on your rats, you can't really call yourself a rat owner
17:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 90 points, T:305, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs
18:00 <dbanethacker> don'tcha love dying by being thrown?  You get a message of some sort of **died doing this** while levitating
18:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 29 points, T:239, killed by dipping into a forge
18:00 <mobileuser> while in flight?
18:00 <dbanethacker> Nah, probably from hitting the wall.
18:01 <Loggers_IX> while moving through the air I think
18:01 <mobileuser> ah
18:01 <dbanethacker> that's it
18:01 <Loggers_IX> it's pretty funny how that allows monsters to juggle
18:01 <dbanethacker> dipping into a forge?  did the lava splash you to death?
18:01 <Loggers_IX> I got killed by a minotaur in one turn :(
18:01 <dbanethacker> gotta hate those shape shifters.
18:01 <Loggers_IX> can't say I've ever seen the dipping into a forge one
18:02 <mobileuser> one way to get rid of zombies
18:02 <dbanethacker> I've seen someone die by drinking the lava.  Go figure.
18:02 <krm26> yup, stray lava splash got me
18:02 <mobileuser> but you really need some luck to dip into a forge
18:03 <dbanethacker> Hmmm, gotta stop killing my aligned unicorns, I guess.
18:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 48 points, T:134, killed by a jackal
18:03 <krm26> just making sure i die before polluting the bones files too much
18:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 59 points, T:117, killed by a jackal
18:05 <dbanethacker> Now that's some pollution!
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18:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 82 points, T:487, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs
18:08 <krm26> i've done the slow careful maintenance of a piece of crap convict all the way to ascension before. now, the game has to throw frost brand at me by dl2 or i'm not gonna bother :-)
18:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:33750 (5:55:36)
18:13 <dbanethacker> Hmmm, I threw my copper aklys but it didn't return....
18:13 <dbanethacker> WTG Loggers !
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18:14 <dbanethacker> It kicked me out of the room!  How rude!
18:14 <krm26> you have to be wielding it
18:15 <Loggers_IX> wielding it "tethers" it to your hand, then when you throw it it will return
18:23 <dbanethacker> ah, got it, thanks.
18:24 <krm26> it is a great priest endgame weapon -- +7 silver aklys of fire/frost/shock :-)
18:24 <dbanethacker> hence, the reference to the term Rope a Dope for the Achievement, eh?
18:25 <dbanethacker> I'll put that on my endgame bucket list
18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:35637 (6:10:41)
18:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35920 (6:12:06)
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:18425 (4:42:46)
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) refused to give up The Eyes of the Overworld to Master Po, on T:36141 (6:13:23)
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1799 points, T:2724, killed by a mountain dwarf
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Po, on T:36145 (6:13:27)
18:28 <Loggers_IX> c'mon po that never works out for you
18:29 <Loggers_IX> although this time he actually lasted four turns instead of two!
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18:40 <dbanethacker> Yikes - did he do a lot of damage?
18:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3693 (0:40:58)
18:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:47298 (11:22:15)
18:55 <K2> hi
18:55 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
18:55 * K2 pets Hecubus
18:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:11909 (2:59:17)
18:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 48345 points, T:11919, killed by an orcish dagger
19:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1692 (0:08:37)
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19:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6022 (1:10:46)
19:20 <Loggers_VIII> can you eat an amulet of flying for intrinsic flight?
19:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible lgxia's ghost, the former Mercenary, on T:20489 (5:33:04)
19:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20885 (5:46:11)
19:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 7709 points, T:7187, killed by a gnoll
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19:42 <Umbire> !tell Loggers_VIII p. sure that's a no on eating the flying amulet
19:42 <Hecubus> I'm on it, Umbire.
19:54 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/54e1690e0671...35b5158a31a1
19:54 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 35b5158 - Fix: heap-use-after-free in munstone() function.
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20:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1943 points, T:2685, poisoned by a rabid rat
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20:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:22827 (6:38:08)
20:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22828 (6:38:11)
20:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) refused to give up The Magic Mirror of Merlin to King Arthur, on T:22916 (6:39:35)
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20:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1669 (0:24:46)
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20:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3172 (0:48:10)
21:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3301 (0:49:02)
21:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:23917 (7:12:46)
21:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 235246 points, T:23918, fell to his death
21:06 <dbanethacker> Ah, Willi - you gotta read the signs !
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21:09 <Loggers_VIII> aww sad death :(
21:09 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: Message from Umbire at 2023-01-12 19:42 EST: p. sure that's a no on eating the flying amulet
21:09 <Loggers_VIII> also sad about the amulet eating :(
21:10 <Loggers_VIII> although I guess it would make celestial scales even more useless than they already are
21:11 <Umbire> I wouldn't call them useless really, moreso a "Bragging Rights Reward" type thing
21:11 <Umbire> most people capable of getting them without wishing can usually ascend right then and there, but it does more than just seem cool to have (which they undoubtedly do)
21:12 <Umbire> think it means something for infidels in particular too, since when crowned they normally have to "choose" between body armor that restricts their wings and the properties dragon-scaled stuff grants
21:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:41951 (7:32:47)
21:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41969 (7:33:22)
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23:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a broadsword entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:54188 (12:47:50)
23:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:56378 (13:19:16)
23:46 <Umbire> Very late Gollum kill