00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 657 points, T:741, killed by the Goblin King 00:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1140 (0:44:36) 01:04 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 01:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:22 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 01:40 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:30045 (6:02:14) 01:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1248 points, T:1563, killed by the Goblin King 01:49 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a copper spear entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:30835 (6:12:09) 01:50 K2 did your recent upgrade allow water demons to pull in stronger ones? I was on the Oracle level when a water demon summoned Jubilex - that hadn't happened before. 01:50 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:51 That's normal demon gating. 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:31875 (6:18:59) 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3817 (0:28:21) 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3875 (0:28:59) 02:03 Hmmm, haven't seen it before all that much. Now it happens a lot. 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 3445 points, T:4001, killed by a bone orcish dagger of fire 02:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:36377 (6:51:49) 02:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:38 dbanethacker: If you don't kill them quickly then it can become fairly likely that they'll summon *something*, and that something could well be Jubilex. 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1910 (0:20:17) 02:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:2269 (0:30:15) 02:50 Poor Gollum. 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:38091 (7:13:34) 02:56 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 3561 points, T:4452, killed by a killer bee 02:58 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 02:58 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 03:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 442 points, T:721, killed by a water moccasin 03:03 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:06 yi 03:06 hackemslashem: Message from K2 at 2023-01-08 22:29 EST: thanks o/ 03:11 Yeah I wish there was an easy way to tame him. Then perhaps he'd follow me as my "guide" and backstab me in awhile. Hmmm, where have I seen that before? 03:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 744 points, T:1585, killed by a coyote, while sleeping 03:21 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 03:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:440 (0:34:06) 03:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4760 points, T:4930, suffocated by the water elemental of Brigit 03:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:906 (0:37:17) 03:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 618 points, T:983, zombified by a dwarf zombie 03:30 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:50 -!- chao is now known as stenno 04:09 -!- qt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:17 Hmm, random wand of death. 04:17 Not even turn 3000, that's unusual even for me. 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:43561 (8:42:00) 04:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6227 points, T:3997, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:22 Stupid. 04:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:34 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a cloak of protection entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:44336 (8:56:48) 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:45636 (9:14:34) 05:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3258 (0:29:53) 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7366 points, T:4386, killed by an ape 06:11 [EvilHack] insolitum starred EvilHack - https://github.com/insolitum 06:17 i have the feeling that i don't really use my stuff wisely enough 06:17 maybe i should start much earlier to enchant armor and stuff 06:18 i am just constantly expecting my stuff to just get destroyed lol 06:32 For my part I generally never use enchant armor until the end of the mid-game, unless I need to save a particularly important piece from destruction with confused enchant. Enchant weapon of course I use immediately to max-out my best weapon. 06:33 The contributions from enchant armor are much more marginal compared to the contributions from enchant weapon. 06:34 I guess monk has more of a challenge getting good AC early on 06:34 The best AC is a nice juicy attack 06:34 And of course speed 06:38 !tell K2 I might need your help on this one (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/159). I think it has something to do with the flag chameleons have for not shapechanging again. I have a recording in rr if you think of anything to check for. 06:38 No worries, hackemslashem, I've got this! 07:02 i think shapechangers just use the canceled bit (set ->mcan = TRUE) to prevent shapechanging again after being killed 07:05 Looks like it mcan is set to TRUE 07:05 what is the option again to turn on paranoid water? 07:05 hackemslashem: what is your irc channel name again 07:05 #hackem :) 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a steel scimitar entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:47771 (10:11:17) 07:09 taichi, OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation:pray Remove quit attack wand-break swim 07:09 (the last one) 07:10 I should use praying more 07:10 is paranoid on attack useful? 07:11 require "yes" rather than 'y' to confirm attacking a peaceful monster 07:11 hackemslashem, sorry for pm, damn tab completion when pasting from wiki 07:12 boo hiss 07:12 so I think so especially since y is a vi movement key 07:12 2oh that is nice 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a silver large shield entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:48332 (10:17:40) 07:12 yeah that is annoying 07:12 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#paranoid_confirmation for details 07:12 I do notice a y for attacking peacefuls is annoying given it's a movement kye 07:12 it is mostly pointless if you have displace peaceful though 07:12 oh that is on by default 07:12 but in 3.6 without displace peaceful it was very dangerous 07:12 My guess is the problem is here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/e1a0067c32af1f64777f5f1a922b77be98784487/src/mon.c#L3329 07:12 like in TNNT 07:13 why is that? 07:13 I have attacked watchmen because I was used to displace peaceful and y was movement 07:14 any how, the paranoid swim is slightly different in evil vs 3.7 07:15 in 3.7 you have to prefix it with m to move into water while in evilhack you will get a y/n prompt 07:15 might be good to know the difference :) 07:15 i like m, given I can see spamming yy 07:15 when moving up by accident 07:15 the issue with y as yes, is it's a movement key 07:16 funny how it is still called a vikey though 07:16 since y is yank in vim :) 07:16 only hjkl are proper vi keys 07:17 correct 07:17 it's an extension of the movment 07:33 the fact that y is northwest diagonal movement is probably the reason why there are some many paranoid options 07:37 changing y to p or something would be nice 07:37 and lovely my equipment destoryed by the goblin king 07:38 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2407 points, T:2843, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:38 if I zapped cancellation at him, would that have saved me 07:38 (it exploded, but if it didn't...) 07:45 sorry, cancellation of who or what? 07:47 a wand of cancellation 07:47 maybe destorys wands on the target? 07:48 I mean, zap wand of cancellation at who or what 07:48 oh goblin king with wand of lightning 07:49 right, there was a chance you could have cancelled his lightning wand 07:49 but only a chance 07:49 so basically just run is the best answer 07:49 yeah... 07:49 until I get an answer (dead now) 07:49 I see 07:49 he destoryed my wand of cancellation on the first cast 07:50 pretty unlucky if goblin king has such a powerful wand 07:50 he was on his thrown too, had a cape of invis 07:50 he didn't see me coming 07:57 whats the chance to cancel a wand in enemy inventory on zapping? 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had an axe entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:49613 (10:42:06) 08:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:10 stenno I'm not great at code reading but it looks like you can only cancel monster armor, not wands 08:11 while if they zap you... 08:11 oh! 08:11 yeah... 08:11 mah symmetry :v 08:12 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 440 points, T:590, killed by a rock gnome 08:21 same with lightnight? 08:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5571 (0:52:47) 08:28 lightning should still blow up jewellery 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6686 (1:01:59) 08:37 I may well be wrong about zapping monsters with cancellation, K2 will know 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2734 points, T:2350, poisoned by a dwarf zombie 08:46 Hmmm, that dwarf zombie's scratch was deadly. Has that always been around? 08:46 @e? dwarf zombie 08:46 dwarf zombie (Z) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 1d6 claw drain con, 1d2 bite drain int | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous, stalker 08:47 hmm 08:47 He just killed me in 1 turn (I had the full 80 hit points) with a deadly scratch. 08:48 !lastgame 08:48 dbanethacker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1673270431.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1673259115.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dolores/evilhack/dumplog/1673110714.evil.html 08:49 poison instadeath 08:49 seems to imply that 'claw' attacks are always poisonous? 08:49 because it doesn't list in the hecubus output 08:50 yes it does 08:50 K2: Message from hackemslashem at 2023-01-09 06:38 EST: I might need your help on this one (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/159). I think it has something to do with the flag chameleons have for not shapechanging again. I have a recording in rr if you think of anything to check for. 08:50 Atk: 1d6 claw drain con 08:50 ^ poison attack, affect constitution 08:50 it was a zombie - so its attack is (always?) poisonous? 08:50 their claw attack is, yes 08:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:51 Ok, well, thanks to the RNG there goes another game. I'll keep trying! 08:51 "Zombies now have two different attack types, one being a poisonous claw attack (effects and frequency are the same as a bite from a rabid rat), the other being a disease-inducing bite attack to the head." 08:51 old commit, from the beginning 08:51 @e? rabid rat 08:51 rabid rat (r) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d4 bite drain con | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, poisonous, infravis, passes-bars 08:51 Wow - the low level monsters can really get ya with a good RNG roll 08:51 yeah same drain con 08:52 or a poisoned spike pit :-) 08:52 cancellation thing - you can cancel a monsters inventory, should be anything in their open inventory 08:52 !lastgame dbanethacker 08:52 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1673270431.evil.html 08:52 Been there, done that. It's a 1 in 6 chance of instadeath, IIRC ? 08:52 ah, so I read the code wrong :-) 08:53 maybe? i'd need to look again 08:53 K2: wait - so any drain attack is considered 'poison' ? 08:53 (for a spiked poisonous pit to kill ya instantly, that is) 08:53 no... i think pinobot reporting is a bit misleading there 08:53 sort of 08:53 random poison chance death is sad :( 08:53 ^ 08:53 the poison attacks (vanilla, evilhack, etc) can drain your str or con 08:53 happened to you as well Loggers_VIII ? 08:54 or sometimes if unlucky, instakill 08:54 Gotta blame that full moon, then. 08:54 hm. 08:54 taichi I've had some great runs lost to poison instadeath 08:54 poison attacks have been that way for ages 08:55 luckily they are removing instadeath chance in 3.7 :) 08:55 not chance, just instadeath altogether 08:55 more hp loss instead 08:55 which could kill you if you are low on hp 08:55 well, I meant they're removing the chance to instantly die 08:55 yeah, i dont like that 08:55 not very roguelike 08:55 ^^^^. Hear hear! 08:56 imo it was one of the things that could splat your run no matter how optimally you played, and to be honest I'm not sad to see it go 08:56 Ah, Rogue. That would be a good addition to the available games for a trip down memory lane..... 08:56 but! 08:56 isn't it cool and fun to just randomly die? 08:57 i mean thats what a roguelike does 08:57 it's cool when it's in a fun or silly way that you also could have avoided 08:57 Yeah it's the opposite of a deux ex machina, perhaps 08:58 but poison instadeath is boring and the closest to "unavoidable" my deaths have ever been:( 08:58 if you tangle with a venomous monster, there's a chance its bite can kill you. that's how it is in real life too 08:58 solution - dont fuck with venomous monsters close up 08:58 Good riddance to that in the next version! 08:58 @e? killer bee 08:58 killer bee (a) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 1d3 sting drain str | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, poisonous, passes-bars 08:59 Sure. I was temporarily blinded so I'll be sure to throw boulders as I move forward next time, perhaps. 08:59 k2 I am left to assume that you've never been poison instakilled from a urukhai arrow when you didn't even know there were uruk-hai on the level 08:59 if you reach 35% poison res or better, poison instadeath goes away, fyi 08:59 Loggers_VIII i've been killed so many times by poison instadeath i cant even count 09:00 got killed by a poison arrow in soko that was a bit sad 09:00 me neither lol 09:00 was having archer wars 09:00 Hmmm, how do you get a job when you don't have experience, and how do you gain experience when you don't have a job? Needing 35% kind of reminds me of that, heh, heh.... 09:00 just eat a unicorn or something 09:01 These are low level occurrences - I was at turn 2350, little chance of a uni by then. 09:01 at least low turn is easy to restart 09:02 Yeah, no skin off my teeth! 09:02 Ok, back into the trenches I go. Thanks for the lively discussion and pointers, all ! 09:02 next you'll want to nerf gnomes spawning with wands of death 09:02 hahahahaha 09:02 wonder if that will come next in vanilla 09:03 I remember I had a particularly unlucky streak with gnomes and wands during my first week or so of playing evil 09:03 K2, does that make us scruffy nerf herders? 09:03 heh 09:04 That would be a nice Achievement for next year's tourney 09:04 according to Maud's first law, if you nerf something you need to buff something to the same extent 09:04 but only if it's a monster 09:08 can reading an amnesia scroll let me forget Maud's first law? 09:14 :) 09:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1033 points, T:1841, killed by Gollum 09:24 Rat bastard 09:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:23048 (4:43:16) 09:33 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23327 (4:45:11) 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:23463 (4:47:00) 09:36 oh hey Po let me keep the eyes 09:36 finally learned his lesson it seems 09:44 kill him anyway to assert dominance 09:47 I was thinking about it but I'm gonna altar camp and that would make it even more boring since I'd have to spend like forty minutes mollifying Huan Ti 09:47 mobileuser WAT?? 09:47 kill master po?? 09:48 rip butt-sensei 09:48 :( 09:49 are magic markers able to be created by polypiling? 09:50 no 09:51 its because they dont spawn randomly 09:51 ah 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:25453 (5:02:59) 09:52 ooh that's pretty nice 09:55 sorry K2 :b 09:55 dont apologize to me... you need to have a chat with master po 09:56 so sad right now 10:00 Master Po lives! \o/ 10:00 happiness! 10:01 wb butt-sensei 10:13 bouquet you here? 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:28005 (5:24:19) 10:13 * K2 casts 'summon bouquet' 10:14 haha yes time for mega AC 10:14 just need one !o restore ability 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:28631 (5:31:23) 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:29100 (5:42:43) 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 87 points, T:367, killed by a jackal 10:45 @e?ki-rin 10:45 ki-rin (A) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -5 | Atk: 2d4 kick physical, 2d4 kick physical, 3d6 butt physical, 2d6 cast spell | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:31387 (6:36:06) 11:29 I'll get dragonbane as a gift if it's the last thing I do! 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of matter entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:32079 (6:39:43) 11:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:33358 (6:51:18) 11:43 HAHAHA YES 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "grayswandir", on T:33359 (6:51:45) 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3870 (1:06:46) 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) used a forge to create Gauntlets of Purity, on T:33980 (6:56:19) 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4151 (1:17:57) 12:00 ugh my shambling horror has a sickness attack 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:05 mmm 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4179 (1:43:53) 12:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:35 aw my game doesn't have ludios :( 12:36 my epic protection racket... 12:36 hit the 5% it seems! 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4976 (1:59:50) 12:42 if there's anything I've learned about nethack it's that a 5% chance is just a 100% chance in disguise 12:43 as amaz used to say: "its always 50/50 - either it will happen or it wont" 12:45 wise words 12:45 wise words unless you think about them 12:46 thinking is overrated 12:46 word 12:49 ugh i hate running around with 5 strength 12:52 k2: I just took off my armor covering my striped shirt inside a store, put it back on, and the shopkeeper failed to ID me as a convict 12:52 unless the orc in goblin town never cares? that might be it 12:53 i think it's if you try to enter the shop and the shirt is visible 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 2893 points, T:5889, killed by a bugbear, while praying 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5725 (2:14:44) 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 129 points, T:350, killed by a dart 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 8147 points, T:5792, killed by a warg 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 112 points, T:239, killed by a goblin 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 2 points, T:34, killed by a sewer rat 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 23 points, T:174, killed by a jackal 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:40024 (7:53:49) 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:40058 (7:54:15) 13:05 time to find some lava 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 110 points, T:454, killed by a water moccasin 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 339 points, T:805, killed by a poisonous corpse 13:12 !lastgame krm26 13:12 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1673287590.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 13:13 ah 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 37 points, T:321, killed by a succubus of Tymora 13:15 i'm just serially-killing convicts, nothing to see here :-) 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 9 points, T:142, killed by a falling rock 13:19 if I get engulfed by an antimatter vortex, will it destroy my armor if I'm disintegration resistant? would I just have to take off all my armor to attack it safely? 13:19 I know the obvious answer is "just don't melee it" but ehhh 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:40853 (8:05:15) 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 147 points, T:690, killed by a water moccasin 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 407 points, T:974, killed by a gnome lady 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 52 points, T:215, killed by a water demon 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 44 points, T:92, killed by a steel dart 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha), 24 points, T:6, killed by a poisonous corpse 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 104 points, T:232, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse, while praying 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40975 (8:11:18) 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2804 (0:29:11) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2888 (0:30:31) 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2181 (0:10:58) 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a black dragon, on T:3127 (0:14:27) 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:42876 (8:36:46) 13:59 oh wow silver gauntlets of purity+silver kicking boots kick ass in gehennom 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:4966 (0:41:05) 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4992 points, T:5777, killed by a giant mosquito 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:44603 (9:08:03) 14:25 k2: the gauntlets of purity are supposed to NOT disintegrate, no? 14:26 because mine just did 14:26 you weren't pure enough 14:27 :( 14:27 ??? 14:27 they disintegrate if you think lustful thoughts or otherwise fail to resist the temptations of the flesh in real life, it's a new technology 14:28 ah makes sense 14:28 I can't actually offer any help, I don't know whether they are supposed to be protected from disintegrating or not 14:29 most artifacts it's a low chance but it exists, like 1% or something 14:29 whyyyyy :( 14:29 ugh 14:29 that's probably it 14:30 vecna had better give me his fucking hand 14:30 dragonhide is supposed to be immune to disintegration, at least from black dragons -- be surprised if k2 didn't mean that to carry over to purity also 14:30 are they made of dragonhide? 14:31 no, they are silver 14:31 so probably just a small chance of disintegration 14:31 although, when resisting they do give the same messages as dragonbane, which is why I thought they were completely resistant 14:32 sorry i meant dragonBANE not dragonhide 14:32 i bet purity disintegrating is unintentional 14:32 ah 14:32 that would be weird if it didn't carry over, but you also lose acid resistance so I can kind of see the logic 14:33 luckily I still have my pair of protection gauntlets from hours ago :) 14:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:44967 (9:18:57) 14:43 ugh I hate alhoons 14:43 grandmaster-->basic in two turns 14:43 time to go altar camp 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3618 (1:09:16) 14:50 the skill drain is really brutal 14:50 it can really mess you up in mid-to-late 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5686 (1:27:00) 14:53 dragonhide is supposed to be immune to disintegration, at least from black dragons -- be surprised if k2 didn't mean that to carry over to purity also <--- that is not true 14:53 *Dragonbane* is immune to disintegration, not anything made of dragonhide 14:53 yeah, as i said to Loggers, was my typo, meant dragonbane 14:53 yeah krm26 corrected that 14:53 ah 14:53 still thought you meant it to carry forward to purity 14:53 i just saw that and went 'ehhhh' 14:54 no why would it? 14:54 i guess because otherwise monks would never forge it :-) 14:54 GoPur is the ultimate monk gloves 14:54 Well, one can only remain pure for so long before touching something one shouldn't and ruining it 14:54 I think the message for them disintegrating does seem wrong though. "You hit the black dragon! Gauntlets of Purity disintegrate! 14:55 and i should add, dragonbane is immune to black dragon disint, not other forms 14:55 yeah that's a minor typo bug 14:55 Loggers_VIII you disintegrated the GoPur? 14:55 yes 14:55 hahahah 14:55 HAHAHAH 14:55 I did not know artifacts could be disintegrated 14:56 oh yes 14:56 they resist better but they arent fully immune 14:56 unfortunate 14:56 r...regrettable 14:56 luckily Vecna is guaranteed to drop his hand for me :) 14:56 heh 14:56 please vecna I'm begging you spawn with hands 14:57 the sword of annihilation is indestructible fyi 14:57 while we're on the topic 14:57 well that one makes sense 14:58 btw, how would black dragon breath work on lucifer? would it instakill him? 14:58 it could 14:58 assuming it hits 14:58 @e?lucifer 14:58 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 14:59 only -1 AC :) 14:59 in gam e his ac is more like -10 14:59 oh 14:59 I thought that was weird 14:59 that shows his base AC 14:59 Does he generate with armor? 15:00 Or just cast protection 15:00 neither, monster AC will increase from base level based on their level 15:00 err 15:00 that sounds confusing 15:01 if lucifer were lvl 1, his ac would be -1 15:01 being level 110, his ac gets a bump 15:01 ah 15:01 it came across clear enough initially 15:02 all monsters get a boost to their base AC depending on how many hit dice they have 15:03 reading irc chat, i thought about firing up my computer to play evil, booted it, started a session, stood around for like 10 minutes, saved and shutdown the computer again 15:03 now i want to play again 15:03 why did you stand around for 10 min 15:03 were you distracted? 15:03 i got distracted from my 15:03 yeah 15:03 :) 15:04 i knew it. you're a cat 15:04 * K2 gets his red dot laser pointer 15:04 * stenno hunts down the red dot 15:05 * K2 moves the red dot 15:05 i catch it, but it always escapes! 15:05 \o/ 15:05 eternal fun 15:05 i wish i could have as much fun as my dogs do 15:05 right? 15:06 I think my cat is getting old, she doesnt care much for toys any longer 15:06