01:05 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31338 01:11 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 01:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:18861 02:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:27 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14488 03:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed the Rat King, on T:14564 03:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish helm entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18578 03:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a shield of reflection entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19616 03:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a copper shield of mobility entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:20457 03:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:21069 04:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:09 -!- chao is now known as stenno 04:10 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Gia Fem Law), 622 points, T:1297, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 04:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:33 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 227 points, T:509, killed by an acid blob 06:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6859 points, T:5176, killed by a giant mimic 06:25 i dont want to work 06:25 i want to play evil and hackem 06:45 \o/ 07:20 stenno, haha nice :D 07:20 thats a good sign for evil/hackem 07:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:47 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Elf Fem Cha) destroyed k2 the dwarf zombie, and former Skirmisher, on T:1612 07:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:02 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 08:07 welcome taichi! 08:07 thanks 08:11 morning 08:11 good morning 08:13 how goes your evilhack adventure taichi? 08:13 i saw some of the chat in #hardfought 08:13 it's been not the worst, got to the level before minetown my first ever run 08:13 died to a shape shifter I think 08:14 i had a couple 'ugh' deaths yesterday too 08:14 how so? 08:14 finish mines, then die to a pit viper 08:15 find a really nice silver elven sword, then get jumped by a group of elf lords 10 turns later 08:15 the worst thing is dying directly after doing soko 08:15 that kinda thing :) 08:15 stenno, fact 08:17 that does sound like some rough deaths, getting a new toy then being jumped after getting it is never fun 08:17 it happens 08:17 even in regular nethack 08:18 had a rough fourk game, where I lost all my items (artifact etc) to a nymph then died to a fire ant (go team a) 08:18 uuugh 08:19 this is why i like finding and carrying a wand of cancellation 08:19 cancel nymph, cant steal your stuff anymore 08:20 is that how it works? i got to try that at some point 08:20 I'm still quite green in a lot of ways 08:21 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1828 points, T:2727, killed by a chameleon imitating a cauchemar 08:21 yup. cancellation is actually very useful, but most players dont utilize it to its full potential 08:21 in any variant 08:21 I should view wands as less of a scarce resource, I never use them in time 08:22 there are days I wish I were still 'green'. I sometimes miss the time when everything was new 08:22 my telephone line was fixed today! \o/ 08:23 mobileuser wow 08:23 \o/ 08:23 praise the sun hahahah 08:23 I get surprised quite often still, in fourk there was a soko that pushing a boulder makes boulders 08:23 i havent played fourk in awhile 08:23 I remember it being new, then I got a bug that would cause the game to crash on every attack 08:24 hrm 08:24 then i stopped, the game should still be live in the hdf-us server I think 08:24 how long ago was the crash? 08:24 when fourk was revamped and updated so you had to unlock roles etc 08:24 I reported it then, and it was fixed IIRC 08:24 oh so awhile ago 08:26 yeah quite a bit, evilhack has been fun so far, I do like the elf helmet considerations against zombies, it's a neat trade off. Haven't really seen most of the twists that make it evil yet though 08:30 glad you're enjoying it 08:31 tip - its not difficult to find a bone or stone orcish helm in goblin town. will handle the iron helm problem 08:31 plus neither of those materials interfere with spellcasting 08:31 where is goblin town? Is it a fork of mine town? 08:32 the portal to it can be found on dlvl 2 or 3 08:32 I just remember my first run seeing the message, then in #hardfought the message you killed the goblin king on an earlier turn 08:32 gotcha, I'll look out for it next run 08:32 you'll get sound queues on the level the portal is on 08:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:38 yeah I need to listen for those more, I do like your config for stopping when holding down keys 08:39 heh 08:39 yeah that was necessary, i kept dying 08:39 sometimes my playstyle can be a bit... reckless 08:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:47 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:51 taichi, when you get tired of evilhack there is also hackem which is slashem on an evilhack base (with some other variants sprinkled in) :) 08:54 oh that sounds interesting 08:54 so less buggy than the normal slashem base, which I've heard is sort of a mess 08:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:56 idk why slashem styles hacks works for nethack, but I don't care for TOME variants for angband, they always felt sort of samey even though they have lots of extra stuff 08:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:59 well hackem used evilhack to get a lot of the QoL stuff from modern variants that slashem/slashthem lackde 09:00 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Hack%27EM 09:02 I do enjoy QoL changes to nethack, probably why I started back up with fourk at first, I do like some of the QoL features of it 09:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2108 09:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2259 09:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) used a forge to create Gauntlets of Purity, on T:36344 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:36428 09:34 woops 09:34 hammer :( 09:34 is hitting with a weapon as a monk once bad? 09:36 there's no actual negative consequences, I just lose weaponless conduct 09:36 happened to me recently, but with a sling 09:37 imo hitting with launchers should not break weaponless 09:38 it's annoying but I suppose it makes sense 09:38 I myself think that hitting with a pickaxe is also a bit silly 09:38 its definetely correct that a launcher is a weapon 09:38 I ALWAYS lose it to pickaxe. Today was just an exception 09:38 but i wonder if that twas in teh spirit of the weaponless conduct 09:39 pickaxe _should_ count imo 09:39 (as they already do) 09:39 if it didn't count it would be very easy for most roles to get weaponless yeah 09:39 here is an interesting question, does tin opener break weaponless? 09:40 tin opener is not a weapon and not a weapon-tool 09:40 weapon: "a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage." 09:40 so I guess by that definition yes 09:40 but then fists would also count 09:40 so I think the line here is drawn at a thing specifically designed to be a weapon 09:40 but then pickaxe? 09:40 hm 09:41 tin opener does not count as weapon 09:41 even though it sometimes seems to be a weapon-tool, it is not 09:41 I think the requirements are just that it can be trained in some sort of weapon skill 09:41 there is no tin opener skill, sadly 09:42 it just has a few seemingly arbitrary hard-coded pieces 09:55 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:56 I really should compile evilhack myself before flying out 10:13 "your eyesight feels diminished" :/ 10:17 weird when I install it normally and move the game dir via the makefile I still get an error in ~/games 10:19 taichi, I also have a local evilhack/hackem (for wizmode testing) :) 10:20 hell I even have a 3.7 vanilla locally for that purpose 10:20 cbus: have you moved the directory at all? it seems I'm getting the following issues 10:20 4 katyusha@navi:~/Desktop/Games/rogue/nethack/evil/evilhackdir % ./evilhack 10:20 /home/katyusha/games/evilhackdir: No such file or directory 10:20 Cannot chdir to /home/katyusha/games/evilhackdir. 10:20 hmm, nope 10:20 which is odd given I edited the makefile to this proper location 10:21 I start it from a shell script though 10:21 https://pastebin.com/y5aRVChN 10:21 nothing fancy though 10:22 the script is in a pathed folder (~/.bin/) 10:23 yeah makes sense I was putting mine in ~/.local/bin 10:23 but it seems the game not being in games/evilhackdir has caused some issues 10:23 let me just symlink it for now 10:23 don't like cluttering my ~/ 10:24 my evilhackdir is ~/.local/games/lib/evilhackdir 10:24 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack#installation <--- follow that, use hints/linux hints file, edit the paths in that hints file as necessary 10:24 yeah I did that 10:25 I was following it, edited the path before make all and make install 10:25 but then if you move things around after compiling... 10:25 I am using linux-debug for some reason 10:25 K2: I rebuilt with make all and make install, maybe if I make clean I guess? 10:26 wouldnt hurt 10:27 yeah after a make clean same error, odd 10:27 if you edited the hints file, make sure to run the setup.sh script 10:27 well whatever a symlink for now works 10:27 you know I should have edited the hints instead of the makefile after it 10:27 yeah, that would likely be the issue 10:27 oooooh 10:27 yeah that 10:28 dont edit the individual Makefile(s) 10:28 do everything in the hints file and re-run setup.sh after each edit 10:28 well I just edited the makefile after the hints got moved 10:28 yeah smart 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:41022 10:28 haha got him with the drawbridge 10:28 nice 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41036 10:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:36 cool K2 it works now thanks 10:37 took me a second to realize as the old exports were kicking in 10:37 awesome 10:39 maybe I shouldn't have, I can feel the lag on the AU server from where I am now lol 10:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:40 taichi where are you? 10:41 thailand currently, but I live in Taiwan 10:41 AU is the closest server to me from HF 10:41 * K2 nods 10:41 AU has minimal lag, but I can tell it if I have a local copy of nethack open 10:42 another player, Grasshopper, spends a lot of time in Thailand. Sometimes he gets better ping to hdf-us 10:42 so the ping isn't too bad, but it's noticable 10:42 really? 10:42 sometimes yeah 10:42 I found it unplayable in taiwan, maybe it was me just sshing into europe 10:42 that far away, who knows what route your connection will take 10:42 lots of variables to consider 10:43 nah seems worse from where I am currently 10:43 but I can check back once I'm home 10:44 several weeks ago, a nethack player from India posted on reddit about where to play online. I asked him if he had any idea how many people there would want to play online. never got a response 10:44 setting up another server in india would be neat if i thought it'd get used 10:44 I asked 5~ months back, and there is one server for koreans, though it looked more bland than HF, I always like HF due to all the variant choices 10:45 but yeah it's hard to gauge the player amount for asia, I suspect less, it seems the AU server doesn't get as much as EU or US 10:45 no it does not 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:41298 10:46 but it gets enough to keep it up. plus Tangles is an admin and he lives near Sydney 10:46 just curious but is it a lot of work to spin up a new region of hdf? 10:46 that's good at least, yeah if no AU existed I'd likely just compile the variants and play locally like I do with angband likes 10:48 cbus its a fair amount of work, but its not difficult 10:49 when i did the big upgrades to hdf-us and hdf-eu back in december 2021, i made a cheat sheet 10:49 so next time it wont be such a learning curve :P 10:49 fair enough :) 10:49 I have been messing around with ansible at work while talking about deploying stuff 10:50 to get an AWS spun up, and a working copy of dgl & nethack up and running, takes less than 30 min 10:50 *AWS instance 10:50 "messing around" (might be the wrong words since I am doing what I should be but yeah) 10:50 but all the other stuff, it adds up 10:51 I bet 10:51 does spinning up an entire new instance mean recompiling everything? (I guess not, could share binaries) 10:52 it does, yes 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:27568 10:52 but that doesnt take long 10:52 a minute or less per variant compile 10:53 you dont want to share binaries 10:53 bad juju 10:54 apologies if I'm interrupting, but will the portal to Vecna's domain spawn on a demon lord's lair if that level is the first gehennom level, or will it spawn on the first "regular" level? 10:54 not interrupting at all 10:55 I want to say, it should be the first regular lair 10:55 err regular level 10:55 but, i'm not 100% sure 10:56 alright, I'll check it out 11:00 first level, doesn't matter if it's a demon lord's lair 11:02 cool 11:06 thanks mobileuser 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1161653 points, T:43523, killed by a purple worm 11:36 holy shit 11:36 that was unfortunate 11:36 !lastgame loggers 11:36 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1672776922.evil.html 11:39 :( 11:40 I got a bit cocky 11:40 giant centipedes are so strong 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1472 points, T:1783, killed by a piranha 11:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed dolores the giant zombie, and former Novice, on T:2438 12:27 @e?moldier 12:27 moldier ~1~ soldier (@) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, stalker, infravis 12:27 @e?yellow moldier 12:27 yellow moldier ~3~ yellow mold (F) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 0 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 0d4 passive stun | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous, vegan 12:27 smh my head 12:28 evilhack doesn't even have the moldiers 12:28 nope 12:28 not a fan 12:28 literally unplayable 12:28 aw 12:28 i like them 12:28 stenno likes mold 12:29 i like moldier 12:29 heh 12:29 also i like stuff like blue cheese so i guess that kinda counts 12:29 i guess its not exactly mold (or is it?) 12:29 yes it is 12:31 are you talking about molds that will grow on corpses? or there's an actual moldier monster? 12:32 there is an actual moldier monster :) 12:32 actual moldier monster 12:32 like a mold soldier 12:32 @l?moldier 12:32 moldier ~1~ soldier (@) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, stalker, infravis 12:32 hmm 12:32 hackem 12:32 hackem exclusive? 12:32 are they exclusive ? 12:32 Splice 12:32 loll 12:32 They come from Splice 12:32 @spl?yellow moldier 12:32 @sp?moldier 12:32 moldier ~1~ soldier (@) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, stalker, infravis 12:33 @sp?molder 12:33 molder ~2~ soldier (@) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, stalker, infravis 12:33 wtf 12:33 @sp? yellow moldier 12:33 yellow moldier (F) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d4 weapon physical, 0d4 passive stun | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, stalker, vegan 12:33 ah 12:33 Yeah they're color-specific 12:33 @sp? green moldier 12:33 green moldier (F) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep acid petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d4 weapon physical, 0d4 passive acid | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, stalker, vegan 12:33 like the molds 12:33 and honestly they're a pretty stellar concept even if facing them in big rooms and such qualifies for its own circle of Gehennom 12:34 that said I'd arguably go further and add various mold monsters that actually resemble the corpses they puppeteer, though that's probably getting into "just use a monster template" territory 12:34 so what are the possible spellbooks to get as monk in evilhack 12:34 i got confuse monster again BabyRage 12:34 Same as current vanilla I think 12:35 confuse monster, protection, healing 12:35 oh right there have been nerfs 12:35 damn never lucky 12:35 sleep had its level boosted in evil anyway I think, so 12:35 it amazes me that they didn't nerf healing lol 12:35 which imo is the best spell in teh game 12:35 the alternative was getting a spell you'd never be able to reasonably cast 12:35 you're a paci player, you have a bias 12:36 sleep got hit hard by nerf hammer 12:36 i play all the things 12:36 :P 12:36 it makes me survive the early game with ease for any caster 12:36 dunno which spell would be better 12:36 its super cheap, super easy to cast, and super effective at any point in the game 12:36 true 12:37 confuse monster at least does things early on, arguably 12:39 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Spellbooks 12:39 sleep is uber powerful 12:39 in 3.7 its level 3 spell i think 12:40 evilhack its level 2 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1806 points, T:3766, withered away 12:42 healing > sleep 12:42 but ok 12:42 i will just be silent 12:42 and revel in the opness of healing 12:42 * K2 makes healing level 3, extra healing elvel 5 12:42 until you die of zombie crud in evil, anyway 12:42 and mald about starting with conf monster for the second time in a row 12:42 thanks stenno 12:42 no, no 12:42 :P 12:42 stahp 12:42 lol 12:43 but seriously, at least level 2 would be more appropriate, and might scratch extra healing altogetehr 12:43 just scale healing better with skill 12:43 kinda surprised there isnt a critical/full healing spell, level 6/7 or something 12:43 probably way too OP 12:43 yeah 12:43 polyself can have that kind of effect 12:43 the scaling isnt abad idea at all, i've thought about that for various attack spells too 12:44 and its really strong 12:44 player melee-range magic missile when 12:44 when i made psychic wave for illithids (its technically a spell) it does more damage as your skill? level? increases 12:45 i forgot which but it does scale 12:45 probably exp level, since not all illithids will have attack spell school 12:53 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1556 12:53 -!- Guest1556 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 12:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:563 12:57 damn, where is the gollum trapdoor lol 12:58 its different location each game 12:58 :| 12:58 sometimes its in one of the prison cells 12:58 really man 12:58 really 12:58 is that neccessary 12:58 is any of it 'necessary' ? 12:59 i embrace the nethack way of randomness 12:59 brb, dumb meeting to attend 13:00 Hm, at worst you need to force bolt a set of bars 13:01 which you probably do if you're looking for an early hammer anyway 13:12 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 13:13 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 13:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:6783 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:669 13:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:8035 13:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Law), 15515 points, T:8114, killed by a giant beetle 13:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 13:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:50 lol, a gnomish wizard riding a white unicorn 13:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu), 17045 points, T:5509, killed by a cauchemar 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1290 points, T:2630, killed by a yellow dragon 13:57 stenno: sounds like something you'd see airbrushed on the side of a van 13:58 yeah 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:32164 14:39 that riding stuff is wild 14:39 its super strong 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a basilisk, on T:31302 14:44 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:46 this sword of annihilation is SICK! 14:47 no loot if you thoroughly disintegrate a bad guy, though. 14:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1078 14:56 stenno: sounds like something you'd see airbrushed on the side of a van --- LOL 14:56 oh right i should read arti crafting spoilers 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1619 14:59 oh right I should post arti crafting spoilers 14:59 gauntlets of purity sound awesome 14:59 next level up from a purity ring 15:00 10 lines of fluff code comments per artifact in the source 15:00 love it 15:00 i put on my blessed purity ring, +2 gauntlets of purity and my +4 chastity belt 15:01 hmm its lawful though 15:01 ooh gops but don't inhibit spellcasting 15:02 do they protect you from foocubi? 15:02 K2 please add that if not 15:02 lol 15:02 how about nymphs? (not that they go all the way) 15:02 I want to play as a holy warrior of abstinence 15:02 qt: they do 15:03 very nice 15:03 if you are lawful too 15:03 'you're in perilous peril' 15:03 If the wearers 15:03 alignment matches that of the gauntlets, the wearer will be able 15:03 to resist the charms of monsters that try to seduce them. 15:04 oh right chaste is an actual thing 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:85889 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:85895 15:06 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4cnjp7 15:06 bleh that link is crap 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:3163 15:06 much better but 7+ minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUqBR6S4i5g 15:07 i find it hard to see the humor in that because its so similar to my life 15:07 really 15:08 are you sir galahad or zoot? 15:09 i am always being swarmed by great masses of women trying to tempt me from the path of righteousness 15:09 most legendary 'oh shit' from carol cleveland 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13061 points, T:4303, killed by a stone giant, while moving through the air 15:10 i have never seen Life of Brian, I keep thinking I need to watch it 15:10 you do 15:10 its a classic 15:11 bouquet \o/ 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:505 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 378 points, T:507, killed by a Grey-elf 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:527 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:626 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1540 points, T:762, killed by a magic missile 15:18 not used to there being shops in the middle of the map lol 15:19 K2: why can't i destroy iron bars with a pick-axe 15:19 so unrealistic 15:19 pfft 15:20 acid or wand of striking/force bolt spell 15:20 (if the wall they are in is not flagged NON_DIGGABLE) 15:20 YASI: you can try to pry apart iron bars with your pickaxe but it has equal chances of breaking the bars or the pick 15:20 yeah walls are nondiggable at the goblin king level 15:21 yasi: giants can pull apart iron bars 15:21 that's some heavy security for a dl3 level 15:21 stenno not everywhere 15:21 oh hm 15:21 * stenno reads a .des file 15:21 you can affect the iron bars in goblin town 15:22 yeah goblin town iron bars can be broken 15:22 sometimes the elves can do some extra damage to the goblin king if you are very very desperate 15:22 new object: crowbar 15:22 lol 15:23 lol yay Loggers_VIII... someone finally recognized the benefit of having those prisoners there 15:23 someone gets it 15:23 \o/ 15:23 i've seen a bit of 'yeah I free the prisoners so i can kill the elves and eat them' 15:23 D: 15:24 lmao 15:24 made my day 15:25 even if you wanted to eat the elves it would be better to let them die fighting the goblin king 15:26 personally I am a monk and do not experience such carnivorous urges 15:26 mmmm, delicious elf soup 15:26 heh 15:26 elf ala king 15:26 sichuan elf ftw 15:26 elf benedict 15:27 I like how many ways you can kill the goblin king 15:28 and how the items you pick up in the early stages of your run could influence your strategy 15:29 goblintown rulz 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2068 points, T:1673, killed by the Goblin King 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:10809 15:34 ok I'm bored of monk 15:34 time to try infidel 15:35 * K2 gasps 15:35 you have brought shame to Master Po 15:35 Master Po kept asking for the eyes back >:( 15:35 (through no personal fault of my own) 15:36 skill issue tbh 15:36 Infidel? be prepared to kill Bill ;-) 15:36 now I'm mad at Po I'll do one more monk game 15:36 just for him 15:37 master ass 15:37 stenno: also I mentioned earlier you can literally just use striking/force bolt to blow open a set of bars 15:39 what if i don't have striking 15:39 then come back later 15:39 and honestly that's only if the Gollum trapdoor ends up behind a set of bars 15:39 I find Neferet nearly always wants the EoTA back, and Lord Sato is always cool with giving me the Tsurugi. 15:40 they may all have a door in the bars and the goblin king's throne room has a secret back door to the third one 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 746 points, T:790, killed by the Goblin King 15:41 the prisoners got in my way that time :( 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10 points, T:59, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:42 alright infidel time 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Inf Hum Mal Una), 24 points, T:10, killed by a scroll of earth 15:42 promising start 15:43 throw some salt over your shoulder quick! 15:43 peacefuls and tame usually just get in your way anyway 15:44 there were Kops in Vlad's tower. I've never seen them there. I feel like the man is hassling me. 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1572 15:45 speaking of tame monsters, does the pet homunculus grow up to be useful or does it just suck 15:45 you'd think someone like Vlad could afford better security. 15:45 certainly better than the keystone kops 15:45 he turns into a big hommunculous eventually. He can put early game monsters to sleep if they're harrassing you. 15:46 oh nice 15:46 hell yeah started with healing 15:46 gg 15:47 healing is the best by far imo 15:47 confuse monster is ok... protection is ok... but healing is amazing 15:47 You see here a dragonhide armor :o 15:47 200 zm 15:48 ooh like a leather armor with a different material 15:48 yea 15:48 lots of stuff can randomly be dragonhide, but it's a very low chance 15:48 oh the amulet of yendor helps find the goblin town portal lol 15:48 guess i come back here after soko 15:49 bhaak: What's the easiest way to make update the windows binaries/assets without publishing a new version? Or should I just draft a new release that is like 1.0.1?? 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:11490 15:52 can't go to minetown either before defeating the GK? 15:53 scandalous 15:53 ah well 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1289 15:54 i wonder if my neighbours can hear the clacking of my mechanical keyboard 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1894 points, T:1377, killed by Gollum 15:54 shameful death 15:56 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:58 on the plus side, Gollum prefers to eat humans over goblins so you did him a favor 15:59 hackemslashem: you can make a prerelease, like I did in the unnethack workflow file. there's probably some if: combination to use 16:00 bhaak: I'm comparing your yml to the evil/hackem one. I think I see where you copy over the binary "Copy generated zip file" 16:00 Does that copy over the current release? 16:01 I don't think so. I would have assumed that's always a new one 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:32538 16:03 I'm not familiar with this yml syntax yet 16:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1629 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1665 16:05 damn gollum didn't drop the ring 16:06 hackemslashem: neither am I :-) the github actions stuff is pretty dense. TravisCI was much easier. 16:06 You see here a lamp (for sale, 667 zorkmids). 16:06 How could evil not round that off correctly? 16:07 1 away from the number of the beast... 16:07 you see here a lamp (for sale, as many zorkmids as lucifer has hit points) 16:07 you see here a lamp (for sale, price adjusted dynamically) 16:08 it's rounded correctly. 666.66zm 16:08 moar evil! 16:12 i could sell some more stuff 16:12 but what if its not blessed 16:12 ah well i should be fine 16:12 i will just buy it back after soko 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 980 points, T:1882, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping 16:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:13 black flash 16:13 dayum 16:13 you can always light it up in the shop before you buy it to see if it has a black aura. 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:770 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:847 16:17 ooh true 16:18 evilhack strats 16:19 I always go back to minetown when I have a big pet and kill everyone because they disrespected me in the early game. 16:19 wand engraving feels like a gacha game 16:19 lol yeah 16:20 racist shks are racist 16:20 i have been called 'vermin' 16:21 rude! 16:23 cancel them! 16:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:25 time to write a strongly-worded letter to the dungeon management 16:25 maybe start a hashtag on twitter? 16:25 man i hope this 'Luck' thing isnt important 16:25 just lost 3 luck in soko 16:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3590 16:26 god dammit man 16:26 pickaxe 16:27 :( 16:35 gollum doesnt death drop the ring. its somewhere in his cave. he either finds it before you or he doesnt 16:35 oh 16:35 i got a zombie level sound so i gtfo'd 16:35 just - like - the - story 16:35 lotr is for NERDS 16:35 :P 16:37 if he finds it first, he'll wear it 16:37 oh thats cool 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:4337 16:38 nooice 16:38 oh wow thats super good 16:38 helm of speed again 16:39 superfast centaur 16:39 +1 even 16:39 yeah 16:39 but not dragonhide :-( 16:39 lol 16:39 always someone gotta bitch 16:39 :P 16:39 isn't there a scroll where i can change the materials 16:40 heh 16:40 oslt 16:40 stenno in hackem, yes 16:40 stenno no there isnt 16:40 ah damn 16:40 but in hackem and splice it's random, so completely useless really 16:41 leather golems drop leather armor... dragonhide golems when 16:41 hah 16:42 fuckyou golem. they death drop a bunch of fucks you can then give 16:42 * K2 bows 16:43 damn aphrodite 16:43 time to get mini-me back later 16:43 walked into a sqeaky board directly adjacent 16:43 laters 16:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:4673 16:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:4789 16:47 omg man 16:48 i deserved that 16:48 ooh at least a nymph stole my robe so that didn't burst 16:49 i was an iron golem, nymph zapped cancel at me, i return to normal immediately, nice 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:5998 17:02 err 17:02 success chance 50%, fails 11 out of 12 times 17:02 hackemslashem: I think you can invert what I did in the workflow file. like creating a release manually in github and let the workflow file listen to this event. https://github.com/scikit-hep/pyhf/blob/acde7f4ff8d0db2351f5d6e31ff5584e34da0cf0/.github/workflows/publish-package.yml#L105 https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-workflows/events-that-trigger-workflows 17:02 i noticed the same in hackem 17:03 ? 17:03 maybe spell success chance is not calculated correctly? 17:03 K2: but is gollum's ai still going to just have him vaguely drift towards the player's position? 17:03 just unlucky perhaps 17:03 or did you implement him actively roving around the level looking for the ring 17:03 thats like 0.1% and it also happened in hackem 17:04 wait can i get a dragon-scaled dragonhide armor 17:06 bhaak: thanks, I check it out 17:07 ugh, I can't type anymore 17:08 stenno: what role were you when trying to cast spells? 17:09 sometimes you lose nearly a dozen coinflips 17:09 it happens, it's shit but it can happen 17:09 monk i assume 17:09 centaur monk 17:09 I was thinking you were caveman, but I think their spellcasting nerf only applies to reading spellbooks, not casting 17:11 i mean thats a 0.1% chance and it happened twice in very close succession 17:11 chance to find a wow in soko in vanilla is 0.5% 17:12 but it must just be really unlucky 17:12 function for displaying the chance in the spellcasting is the same that is actually used in the calculation 17:14 stennos on the case! 17:16 dragonhide bag :o 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of steel gauntlets entrusted to her by Odin, on T:39672 17:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 5918 points, T:3377, killed by a soldier ant 17:42 go team a! 17:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:8138 18:04 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:09 hmm what to geno lol 18:10 alhoon 18:10 no vecna! 18:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] stenno (Mon Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (elder minotaurs), on T:8899 18:14 I found a WoW in sokoban once! Died shortly after. 18:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:30 tomorrow i will tackle the ice queen 18:31 player monster dropped a boh which was _very_ appreciated 18:33 !tell K2 https://termbin.com/bj9jy I think you should make a change like this, so it's "killed by draining [his/her] own life force" instead of "their" 18:33 I'm on it, qt. 18:37 it seems a little surprising that when you are using your HP to cast, you are still prevented from casting spells based on your current Pw... "You don't have enough energy to cast this spell" even though you aren't actually using power, and you do have enough HP 18:41 i wonder if elder minotaur was a good geno lol, i just sorted the evilhack monster table by difficulty and picked the highest one 18:46 stenno: in my experience (and keep in mind last time I got to gehennom was a few versions ago) they are nasty but by the time they show up you can generally handle them 18:46 ah well 18:46 vorpal jabberwock on the other hand is definitely worth geno because they'll instakill you 18:47 hmm ok 18:47 antimatter vortex would be another good geno because they engulf you and then just hit you with disintegration over and over 18:47 every time but 1 that I've gotten to gehennom in evilhack, I've been killed by instakill vorpal jabberwock 18:47 including one time it decapitated me, I got livesaved, then it decapitated me a second time in its next action 18:52 ouch 18:52 well, good to know 18:52 i assume there is so much stuff in evilhack that i will end up with several ?oGeno 19:05 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 19:06 Hey, the monsters are getting better at fighting back!  I just had a greater homunculus zap a wand at me!  Never seen that before... 19:19 Homunculi are humanoid-shaped and will collect items 19:27 -!- taichi has joined #evilhack 19:32 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1094 points, T:1911, killed by a bolt of cold 19:32 I'm facing an Angel for the first time.  He's hitting me with a shower of missiles.  I have both Dragonbane (gloves) and an amulet of reflection.  Sometimes the gloves deflect wands.  But neither are deflecting/reflecting the missiles from the Angel.  Is that expected? 19:33 My "oR doesn't seem to be doing its job - is this new? 19:34 Not new - melee-range missile attacks are only blocked by MR. 19:35 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:35 Oh, so I need MR to get them blocked.  Thanks, that makes (some) sense. 19:43 dbanethacker - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Reflection 19:43 K2: Message from qt at 2023-01-04 18:33 EST: https://termbin.com/bj9jy I think you should make a change like this, so it's "killed by draining [his/her] own life force" instead of "their" 19:43 !tell qt nice change, I'll incorporate it. thanks! 19:43 qt shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 19:44 stenno - you cant geno vorpal jabberwocks, fyi 19:45 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 775 points, T:1245, killed by the Goblin King 19:54 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:54 I really should engage in the forging mechanics 20:01 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 20:02 I threw boulders at that Angel and about 8 of them did the trick - he's toast! 20:02 huh helments aren't complete protection against getting ones brains eaten? 20:04 Never have been 20:04 it blocks a lot of attempts but not all of them, unless they're greased (which can wear off) or oilskin (only possible as an oprop for cloth stuff) 20:06 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2677 20:06 loot probably fell in the water :( 20:07 ugh I hate accidently walking into the water 20:08 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 2743 points, T:2797, killed by a piranha 20:08 Loot could fall into the water if you're overburdened and need to drop it to get out the water.  That's not a normal occurrence, to lose stuff in water. 20:08 well golum was in the water 20:08 when I killed him 20:08 ^ 20:09 Oh, yes, his stuff would be in the water then (the One Ring, fronds, etc.) 20:09 though I did rust away all my equipment by accidently 20:09 wish it had a confirm walk into the water 20:09 We've all done that!  Welcome to the club! 20:10 There is paranoid_water actually 20:11 but you can still rust boots and such saying no 20:11 (which, you're probably rusting boots specifically in the shallows anyway) 20:12 oh I should set that then 20:12 also do some helmets give better protection against brain eaters? 20:12 got ill my last game even though I had a helmet on 20:15 blessed greased helmets work best against brain eaters. 20:15 except for killing them first.  :-p 20:23 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:28 no, there's a flat chance 20:28 well yes but mostly no 20:29 greased helmets always protect, oilskin helms are always greased 20:29 everything else has the same flat chance 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:45584 20:34 aaaa 20:35 goblin king has reflection 20:35 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 2132 points, T:3086, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping 20:39 but the grease wears off.  Didn't know there's such a thing as an oilskin helmet?  Must be new. 20:47 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:47 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had a gold dwarvish helm entrusted to her by Crom, on T:745 20:47 wow this is great 20:47 2 sacrifcies and I get an item 20:54 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1591 20:54 what should one genocide? 20:54 never no a good genocide target 20:54 I guess liches? 20:55 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (liches), on T:1643 21:07 > You feel slightly perkier 21:30 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4509 21:31 and dead 21:32 huh I had 2 luck stones 21:32 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 6315 points, T:4537, killed by an elven sergeant, while sleeping 21:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/181a6c95add6...a08bf5e135d0 21:41 [EvilHack] k21971 90afcfe - Fix: feedback for Infidel killing themselves from life force drain. 21:41 [EvilHack] k21971 a08bf5e - Use actions/checkout@v3 (github workflow). 21:57 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2480 22:03 haha found a random bag of holding 22:16 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:5188 22:17 wait 22:17 K2: if you polymroph aphrodite she just dies? 22:19 there's a chance a monster cant hanle being poly'd, system shock kills them 22:19 same for player 22:20 *handl 22:20 *handle 22:20 gnite o/ 22:20 really interesting 22:20 good night 22:25 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 6090 points, T:5471, killed by a tortle shaman, while paralyzed by a monster 22:36 -!- katya has joined #evilhack 22:39 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:43 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2405 23:32 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 12459 points, T:7335, killed by a winter wolf cub 23:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1253 23:54 [hdf-au] [evil] dolores (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1641 points, T:2340, killed by the Goblin King 23:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]