00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4173 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gecko corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:5422 00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5466 00:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 10900 points, T:5563, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 01:15 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 01:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:05 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:76761 03:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided master mind flayers, on T:49981 03:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a long sword entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:2587 03:32 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3495 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "E", on T:4571 03:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:44 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4995 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6738 04:28 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:9808 04:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:14550 04:48 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 505936 points, T:78819, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 06:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:05 ouch, deadly gelcube while overtaxed 06:05 the dangers of altar camping 07:16 Just dumped a wall of text on Reddit for K2, following up on my Amulet of Yendor issue last night, with a couple of potential bugs found. For anyone interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/zmmllm/evilhack_081_has_been_released/j2mg1oa/ 07:21 No good steed goes unpunished 07:35 -!- hackemslashem2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:05 Frozty I always blow up all drawbridges immediately (except the one in the VotD) 08:05 there's always some monster ready to zap striking... 08:12 that is definitely osha best practices 08:14 I almost always do too... but I didn't have a wand of striking, nor easy flight/levitation... and I was being frugal with power I think (even though I don't have the Amulet anymore -- but I was in that mindset).  Absolutely osha best practice. 08:15 There was a lot gong on. 08:15 *going 08:17 I wonder how you can get back to the last demon lair 08:17 branchport? 08:18 I have no idea if levelporting works in purgatory 08:43 I figure I can just portal out of purgatory (without the Amulet, I hope) to Sokoban, then levelport back down. I have a stack of ?teleport.  If not, then yes, branchport out. I always keep that branchport in my back pocket for emergencies. 08:43 Or try to, unless I'm heading out for stash work. 08:49 FYI portal out of purgatory is now to the Castle, this is a recent change 08:58 That's good to know -- that would have been a little disconcerting not knowing that and expecting Sokoban!  I haven't found the portal yet -- I assume that it is in the throne room and I can find it with detect unseen? 09:00 Another question I need to ask before I try it: can you levitate over chasm? Fly? 09:00 Behind the throne is a secret door leading to the portal 09:00 yeah flying/levitating over the chasm is fine 09:01 same as when you crossed the chasm in Vlad's cave 09:02 [chasm to Vlad's cave] Ah! I didn't know what that space was technically.  So if you are on foot and step into the void in Vlad1, you just drop to your death? I'm surprised I haven't done that. 09:03 Quite a few people have done that! But you do get warned when you enter the cavern. 09:03 skip, skip, skip ;-) 09:07 another hazard is going back to the cavern on the ladder and start fighting without lev/flying. instadeath. 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4424 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4300 points, T:4430, killed by a jumping spider, while dressing up 09:19 [going back to the cavern on the ladder and start fighting without lev/flying] Well that would certainly make me rage a little bit. 09:22 Do the portals from Moloch's Sanctum to purgatory work both ways? I think I saw it still existing when I first went to purgatory (though monsters and the Wizard I think stood on it).  Same with the one from Purgatory to the Castle? Can you use them as paths continually? 09:23 bi-directionally, like with the quest portal? 09:24 if I have to go retrieve the amulat from Demon Boss #3, the Sanctum and Purgatory might still be the shorter path out with the Amulet if those portals still exist and aren't blocked by gates/doors/walls now or anything. 09:25 good questions! I have no idea myself... 09:28 have you tried a blessed scroll of magic detection as well? or can you write one? 09:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided mind flayers, on T:51443 09:39 morning 09:40 Frozty, I read your latest reddit post 09:40 gday 09:40 Hello cbus, Welcome to #evilhack 09:41 purgatory is a one-way street so to speak. you cant go back in the way you exited. gotta go back down through hell/sanctum 09:41 Frozty ping me when you're available, i have some info for you 09:49 But can you still keep using the portals in one direction (out)? Gotta head out -- K2 you can msg me through reddit easiest for me. 09:50 -!- Frozty has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:51458 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of divination bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:121464 10:02 huh 10:02 so, frozty did lose the AoY over open air. its on the hellc level 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4107 10:09 i need to verify if dropping the AoY, it wont choose open air as a legit spot to teleport to 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4378 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:122009 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:122010 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:122148 10:14 k2, did you see the jumping color highlight thing in 3.7? 10:14 14:31:56 <+aosdict> https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/nhdev/jumping.mp4 10:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52347 10:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 10:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52352 10:21 i did 10:21 was gonna say "add it to evilhack" but after checking the commits it seems to be quite a lot behind it 10:21 yeah its involved 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 8490 points, T:5171, killed by an Uruk-hai 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:122384 10:23 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:122463 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:122503 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:122532 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) performed the invocation, on T:52505 10:46 oooof... dropping the AoY on a level with open air, its not counting open air as not safe 10:46 hmm 10:47 how evil do i want to be 10:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a sea dragon, on T:52549 10:50 OK what the fuck :-( 10:50 what happened? 10:51 confused enchant armor 10:51 to repair my scales 10:51 but instead I am now a sea dragon and lost my armor 10:52 uh, I seem to have sea-scaled +5 crystal plate mail (embedded in your skin) 10:52 weird stuff 10:52 ugh 10:53 wait 10:53 were the scales already merged? 10:53 ^ mobileuser 10:53 I had yellow scaled armor and was wearing sea scales as cloak 10:54 oooh 10:54 i think that's what happens if you confused enchant armor dragon scales, you turn into a dragon 10:54 yeah... 10:54 and i guess it simultaneously merges the scales with your armor 10:54 just wanted a repair :-( 10:54 but the scales were damaged by a monster spell? 10:54 yeah 10:55 should have wielded them and used enchant weapon instead 10:55 expensive lesson 10:55 or repair armor spell 10:55 that one sucks 10:55 at basic 10:55 what does it do at basic? 10:55 not let you choose 10:56 it randomly picks a piece 10:56 just take off your other armor? 10:56 skilled or higher you can choose 10:56 qt yeah 10:56 well I'm in the middle of combat here :-) 10:56 that doesn't really sound like it sucks, it just means you can't use it very easily in the middle of a battle or something 10:56 oh yeah that makes sense 10:56 it sucks 10:57 big rethink needed now. 1 wish left. 10:57 Might've been easier to get out of combat first but that's circumstance-dependent 10:57 well, it nothing near that could really hurt me, could afford to get confused 11:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "cursed +2 dragonhide alchemy smock", on T:52587 11:06 so whats wrong with confused enchant armor? 11:06 * Umbire points to the backscroll 11:06 on top of that p. sure mobile's out a shirt 11:07 "If you are confused, the scales meld into the armor and then the armor melds into you, polymorphing you into the corresponding dragon." 11:07 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Dragon_scales_and_dtsund_dragon-scaled_armor 11:07 yes, that is exactly the problem 11:08 he forgot, dragon'd himself, lost yellow scales 11:09 so only way to repair it is to wield and enchant weapon like mentioned above? 11:09 damn I am tired, workday just ended and feel like going to bed (thus being a bit slow) 11:10 it's the quickest method for him in that scenario 11:10 Or take the scales off, I think you can even select while not wearing it 11:10 ah 11:10 but that leaves you open to acid blasts/stoning 11:10 though I don't think the situation was that level of serious 11:10 repair armor is your friend, even if you arent skilled in that spell school 11:11 so I solved the acid problem, but I'm vulnerable to stoning now 11:11 you can select armor to repair even if you aren't wearing it? huh 11:12 i wouldn't have expected that 11:12 I will need lizards again :-) 11:12 qt I'm going by memory 11:12 not sure 11:12 blessed confused enchant armor = Being confused, you mispronounce the magic words... You don't have anything else to enchant. You have a strange feeling for a moment, then it passes. 11:12 wiztested 11:13 qt not with the repair armor spell, no 11:13 ah so I was wrong 11:13 was that possibly because no armor was damaged or? 11:14 but even if you're skilled in casting repair armor, just cast it a few times, eventually it'll land on the piece of armor you want to repair 11:14 *not skilled 11:17 doing the same in hackem let me choose an armor piece and fooproofed it 11:19 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 11:19 gday hackemslashem, hows it going? 11:20 bleh 11:20 you too eh? 11:20 I think it's purgatory outside 11:20 bad weather or? 11:20 cbus, hackemslashem may have lifted the skill restriction on that spell 11:20 yea it's really foggy, wet, and dark here 11:21 ah, same here, this weather really gets to me when it is dark half of the year 11:24 oki, confused blessed enchant armor in HACKEM: What do you want to enchant? [B or ?*] Your crystal plate mail is covered by a shimmering golden shield! (this is on a gray-scaled +0 crystal plate mail 11:24 so no dragon turning in hackem 11:24 were you wearing dragon scales also as a cloak? 11:25 Yes 11:25 cbus? 11:25 I mean mobi was, which is why he became a dragon 11:25 oh nope 11:25 yeah 11:25 will retest 11:25 scaled armor =/= scales 11:25 try that again while wearing plain dragon scales as a cloak 11:26 this isnt a bug 11:26 I don't think much has changed with enchant armor 11:26 hackemslashem, mostly checking how hackem handles it since mobileuser did a sad thing and messed up his armor in sanctum in evil 11:26 I really like the choosing your armor to enchant though, one of my favorite things 11:26 so this is mostly for my peace of mind :) 11:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:52661 11:27 hackemslashem: i prefer brown paper packages tied up with string 11:27 ohh robe + gray dragon scales => turn into dragon 11:27 reaaly? 11:27 yeah 11:27 confused blessed enchant armor 11:27 if you wanted to prevent an object from being located to a certain spot (terrain type), would you do this in goodpos() or rloco() ? 11:27 but... confused EA? 11:28 yeah, in evilhack you turn to dragon 11:28 Cause I've made dragon scaled robes before no problem 11:28 K2 is the rule supposed to affect all objects or just one particular type of object 11:28 hackemslashem see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Dragon_scales_and_dtsund_dragon-scaled_armor 11:28 see the bit about 'if you are confused' 11:28 hmm, yeah confused turned me into a dragon with crystal scale mail too (I thought I Did that successfully before) 11:28 I'm feeling confused 11:28 * hackemslashem reads scroll of teleportation 11:29 17:24:09 < cbus> oki, confused blessed enchant armor in HACKEM: What do you want to enchant? [B or ?*] Your crystal plate mail is covered by a shimmering golden shield! (this is on a gray-scaled +0 crystal plate mail <-- means I didnt turn into one 11:29 my instinct is that it should go in rloco if it's limited to only certain objects, in goodpos if it's a universal rule (no objects should ever go to X terrain) 11:29 i say that just because i think goodpos doesn't have the info on object type 11:29 praying out of the poly shape with forced happy god turned me back with gray-scales +0 crystal plate mail intact 11:29 qt the issue is this - if you drop the amulet of yendor and it teleports away, if you're on a level with open air, there's a chance the amulet will tele to an open air spot 11:30 seems to me like that is a universal rule (that open air is not a safe spot to place objects at) 11:30 this happened to frotzy in purgatory. he drooped the AoY to be able to cast more effectively, and it poofed away to an open air spot, now its in gehennom 11:30 *dropped 11:31 yeah it should be a universal rule 11:31 hmm 11:31 goodpos seems to handle monsters more than objects 11:31 goodpos looks like it should already prevent objects from going onto open air 11:32 it's used for objects if you pass 0 for mtmp I think 11:32 hmm 11:32 see src/do.c line 269 on 11:32 that's the bit that tele's the aoy away 11:32 it calls rloco 11:32 rloco checks goodpos i thought 11:33 hmmm 11:33 yeah 11:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Lucifer, on T:52743 11:33 big hmmm 11:34 it would probably be helpful to step through with a debugger and see what's happening 11:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered Purgatory, on T:52816 11:36 oh 11:36 I see why goodpos is allowing air 11:36 because it's marked as accessible 11:37 eh 11:37 probably/possibly for the plane of air? 11:37 accessible dealt with monsters i thought? 11:37 what do you mean? 11:38 accessible() handles monsters i thought, not objects 11:38 it's just a general "is this an accessible spot" check 11:38 i see 11:39 i would try this https://termbin.com/dvlk5 and see what happens, I don't know if it could have some negative side-effect on monsters 11:40 ok 11:40 hrm 11:40 but e.g. pool/moat is also considered "not accessible" terrain, yet obviously monsters can move on it if they are the right type or flying or whatever 11:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4776 11:41 you could also move the is_open_air part into another spot in goodpos, that doesn't expect it to be considered nonaccessible 11:41 to hit this problem more specifically 11:42 maybe sprinkle a bit of Is_airlevel(x) 11:43 hmm no, is_open_air already accounts for that i think 11:43 yes it should 11:43 yup it does 11:46 xnh doesnt even have && !(is_open_air(x, y) && ignoreair) in that if (!accessible(x, y)) block 11:46 i know 11:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5219 11:46 probably that causes some problems in xnh but who knows 11:46 yes it would 11:47 alright, i'll try your edit 11:47 run some tests 11:47 i need to feed mini-me first 11:47 brb 11:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:5270 11:53 it may not cause any actual problems in xnh other than meaning that items which are teleported may fall through onto the level below 11:54 it would be sort of silly though if the initial items on the level are generated over air and immediately fall down 11:55 idk if that would happen or not just from not handling it in goodpos 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful goblin, on T:3354 12:11 -!- cbus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) completed his quest without incident, on T:53464 12:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) genocided basilisks, on T:53593 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4570 12:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered the Planes, on T:53677 12:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:53677 12:25 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 12:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Novice, on T:8031 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:948 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:1343 13:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) put Death down for a little nap, on T:53872 13:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:53874 13:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the high priestess, on T:53908 13:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una), 6319321 points, T:53911, ascended (with the Idol) 13:33 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1671915001.evil.html 13:33 grats mobileuser 13:33 nice save 13:33 congrats mobileuser 13:33 thank you! 13:33 "You never abused your alignment" 13:33 \o/ 13:46 gg 13:49 wooo! 14:04 -!- Umbire is now known as Umbnchs 14:08 congrats mobileuser woooo! \o/ 14:09 'feed mini-me' turned into 'lets eat and then stack this wood' 14:09 heh 14:09 thanks! 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed dragonhide +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:2284 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5223 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:4042 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4947 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 20 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5273 14:36 grats mobileuser! 14:37 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5999 14:42 qt your code change appears to work 14:42 tested in vlad's cavern 14:56 -!- Umbnchs is now known as Umbire 14:58 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:8072 15:01 -!- chao is now known as stenno 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:123617 15:04 !whereis elron 15:04 K2: [hdf-us] elron [evil]: (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) T:123555 Purgatory level: 46 15:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:63468 15:13 thx krm26! 15:14 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:14 mobileuser: you've inspired me to give infidel a serious try one of these days 15:14 \o/ 15:15 since you play a lot of giants: giant infidel is fun! 15:15 bouquet, the big question is: will you try it in evilhack or hackem? :) 15:15 I would never play another variant besides Evilhack how dare you even suggest such heresy! 15:15 with hackem I would wait for the fire horn to not break anymore... 15:17 where exactly is the infidel playstyle-wise? are they mainly spell casters? 15:18 YES 15:18 they have a really tough initial hump 15:20 try tortle infidel for extra flavor 15:20 tortle just seems like hell tbh 15:20 it is challenging 15:20 i'm not even sure they can be infidels actually? 15:21 they cant 15:21 maybe I'll try an infidel if I can ever ascend a monk 15:22 I want to spellcast without just being a wizard 15:23 qt, seeing some issues with your edit after all. so far with steeds and dismounting 15:23 hmm 15:23 what happened? 15:24 Loggers_VIII, Priests can also do decent single-target offensive spellcasting 15:24 with your edit active: if you're riding a flying steed, and you yourself can fly and you're over open air, you cant dismount. says there isnt a good spot to dismount 15:25 part of me wants to say this (original) behavior isnt a bug 15:26 it hasnt been an issue with anything else 15:26 well, that is consistent with the behavior you get when flying and trying to dismount over wate 15:26 r 15:26 idk 15:27 it does seem weird 15:27 krm26, priest's been on the list for a while, I've had some good games. I never could get used to the early game weapon choice though 15:27 i guess it's because landing_spot using accessible() instead of goodpos() 15:27 if you can get an early altar you are guaranteed Demonbane, which is excellent. But you also want to hit the mines and grab an aklys 15:28 if you replaced the accessible() call with goodpos(x, y, &youmonst, 0L) it would probably "fix" both the air and water behaviors? idk 15:28 oh that's right, Demonbane changes. Maybe I'll give them another shot, early game can be quite nice with the BUC ID 15:28 depends on whether mounting and dismounting your steed literally requires you to step on something (which could sort of make sense), or whether it's meant to be just "there's nowhere safe to dismount onto" 15:29 well, i guess *mounting* does not require that, anyway... 15:29 right 15:30 are monks any different in evil? 15:31 yup 15:31 in a very good way 15:31 qt i think i'm going to call this 'not a bug' - dont drop the AoY in an open air area, otherwise you may be going on a hike 15:32 k2, ah nice, reading up on it on the evilhack post on wiki, sounds good 15:32 K2 where does it go when dropped in open air? 15:32 hellc level 15:32 final demon boss level 15:32 same with invocation objects if they are dropped in open air 15:32 makes sure the game is still winnable 15:34 why doesn't it just go to the level below you? 15:35 because i wanted them to go to the final boss level 15:39 cbus: "you gently caress the garter snake!" 15:39 Hey, this is a PG game! 15:39 hmm, looks like i'm the biggest priest-lover from ascensions 15:40 K2: i just found https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/issues/2096, i wonder if evil could have the same bug, too 15:40 41%, gotta get that above 50! 15:40 oh wait no you dont have e.g sapphire hard hats 15:41 right 15:41 not a thing in evilhack 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:12799 15:41 no dilithium hard hats 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 104940 points, T:12800, killed by a giant centipede 15:41 0/10 15:41 rip Loggers_VIII 15:41 why giant centipede :( 15:42 !lastgame loggers 15:42 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1672632092.evil.html 15:42 Aw I totally coulda prayed 15:42 serves you right for not wishing for your dragonhide cloak greased! 15:43 wouldn't have helped lol 15:43 well I guess if I lived to get grabbed it might've 15:44 @e?giant centipede 15:44 giant centipede (s) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -6 | Atk: 6d8 bite drain str, 1d4 touch wrap | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, conceals, thick hide, oviparous 15:48 qt thanks for the feedback and suggestions 15:48 putting that issue to bed 15:48 you're welcome 15:49 * K2 takes back the coal I put in your stocking and replaces it with keys to a brand new mercedes 15:49 if anyone asks, i didnt steal it 15:49 what is "celestial scales"? 15:50 celestial dragon scales 15:50 what properties 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 189 points, T:350, killed by an iron ball collision 15:51 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7a36e8794bde84bbcb2b9411b122e941d297e06e 15:51 I think it's sleep shock sonic res + flying when you merge them 15:51 oh k2 linked it 15:55 there is an item nobody will ever have 15:55 ungenocidable, don't appear until you are in ascension kit 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 842 points, T:567, killed by the Goblin King 15:57 celestial dragons do seem kind of weird 15:57 do they only appear in purgatory? 15:57 think so 15:58 maybe I'll wish for some scales if I ever play as something that can wear armor 15:59 well, I just found some merged with some leather armor after killing an adventurer. 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 158 points, T:260, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:59 I guess that's one way to get it 16:00 except I'm a giant so I'll never get to wear it. 16:00 lol 16:01 it could be kind of neat if scaled armor could rot/rust/etc away and leave just the scales behind 16:01 that sounds horrible and kind of cool 16:02 if nothing else it would give bouquet something to do with that scale mail 16:02 i guess it might be a bit tricky to handle though, since you could not keep wearing the scales in the same armor slot. they'd probably have to go into your inventory or something 16:02 hm 16:03 I guess it raises the question of "what happens when you wear a cloak under a cloak" 16:03 or do you even wear it? 16:04 but if you don't how does it work? 16:04 a conundrum 16:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:3677 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4005 16:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:20 oooh early unprepared wish, dare i get myself killed by dragonbane's npc? 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 dragonbane", on T:4091 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:63794 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:16576 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (doppelgangers), on T:16637 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:742 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:998 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver pyramidal amulet on an altar, on T:3087 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:124595 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:124612 16:57 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:124613 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:124615 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:124620 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:124624 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:124706 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:124748 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:124777 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:124779 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 8398897 points, T:124790, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1672236646.evil.html 17:14 very nice win 17:16 oh nice 17:16 that's latest version too woop 17:16 hah he got lucky, first altar 17:18 gg 17:20 did sokoban get changed to have no doors? 17:21 for the prize rooms I mean 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:8028 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:65352 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:25759 17:40 aw hostile djinni from blessed magic lamp :( 17:40 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice vortex, on T:10979 17:44 qt, i'm working on a fix for https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L5 17:44 so far so good 17:44 enexto was the wrong way to do this, I think antigulp realized this 17:45 it should do something similar to landing_spot i guess 17:45 which does still use enexto as a backup plan but not unless it really needs to 17:49 this is what I have so far - https://termbin.com/7eiq0 17:50 my thought was, neither the rider or steed should go to a new spot, they should stay in the same location as before when paired as rider/steed 17:51 i had to add the remove_monster(steed->mx, steed->my); bit to prevent an impossible 17:51 but not for rider dies/steed lives 17:51 not 100% sure why 17:52 how can they both stay in the same location? 17:52 not both at same time 17:52 oh crap 17:52 nm 17:52 what do you do when they are both alive? 17:53 right 17:53 you have to use something along the lines of enexto for that 17:53 yeah 17:53 but i agree that when one of them dies the other should really stay in the same place 17:53 i would look at landing_spot and see if you can imitate it (or maybe make it more generic by adding x/y parameters instead of always using the hero's location?) 17:54 well not hero location, monster rider 17:54 yes but right now landing spot uses the hero's location 17:55 oof 17:55 oh maybe not 17:55 actually yes it does 17:55 why oof? 17:55 i got an idea for if both rider/steed are alive 17:55 it is only used for the hero dismounting 17:55 but you could make it generic and then use it for monster dismount as well 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13025 18:02 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:05 btw qt, did you get my email? 18:05 oh no I didn't 18:11 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11832 18:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:13 i sent one to your contact email from your website 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 121523 points, T:14090, killed by a white dragon 18:16 nooooooo 18:16 !lastgame loggers 18:16 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1672693279.evil.html 18:17 :/ 18:18 I'm learning to hate the new dragons with a bit of a passion 18:19 @e?white dragon 18:19 white dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold | Confer: cold | MR: 20 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath cold, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d1 passive cold | Align: -5 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 18:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:37 -10AC against a dragon is a tall order. 18:39 K2 I do see your email now, I just missed it 18:39 I wasn't checking email very diligently over the past week 18:45 what were you getting up to 18:45 we missed your razor wit 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:69349 18:45 nhqdb suffered 18:45 yay 18:45 (to seeing email) 18:47 I didn't really do anything interesting at all, just had the week off so was not on the computer much. just reading and walking around, stuff like that 18:49 lol you are clearly telling the truth about scraping the bottom of the nhqdb barrel if this made it in https://nhqdb.alt.org/?4074 18:50 what are you talking about that is a great quote because of the "it's my own invention" line, a subtle literary allusion to Through the Looking-Glass 18:53 !tell Loggers_VIII To be fair they're mostly grunt dragons But More™, and with the secondaries from their scales 18:53 I'm on it, Umbire. 19:03 qt here's what I have so far - https://termbin.com/hwfx - this all works fine except for one quirk. if you knock the rider off of its steed, both are still alive, the steed becomes invisible and wont reappear unless you move around a bit. the 'invisible' steed can still attack, etc but you cant interact with it in any way until it becomes vis again 19:04 have tried a few things, this is latest (handling rider & steed both alive). not sure what I am missing 19:05 murtle() calls separate_steed_and_rider() 19:05 *mhurtle 19:11 K2 it seems like you 1. remove the rider (remove_monster(steed->mx, steed->my)) 2. find a location for the steed, 3. place the steed (place_monster(steed)) 4. newsym x2 19:11 don't you need to place the rider? 19:12 iirc the steed isn't actually on the map to begin with, so remove_monster(steed->mx, steed->my) I think removes the rider (unless steed mx/my and rider mx/my desync) 19:12 before, i didnt have remove_monster nor place_monster in there at all, was getting same behavior 19:13 thought enexto removed the rider but maybe not 19:13 hmm yeah what I have there for both being alive is messed up 19:14 maybe i am misunderstanding it 19:14 no i dont think you are 19:15 enexto doesnt deal with mon steeds at all 19:15 that would explain what I am seeing 19:15 try adding a place_monster(rider, cc.x, cc.y) call in there 19:15 after the place_monster(steed) call 19:15 idk but maybe that would help 19:17 ok 19:17 brb 19:18 hmm being told its dinner time, so back in a lil bit 19:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:72040 19:38 if I smack an armored monster with the Sword of Annihilation will it disintegrate their armor or the whole monster (like dragon breath)? 19:50 dang, not sure if it's because wiztesting, but everything disintegrates in 1 hit! 19:52 demon princes don't wear armor so if I land a hit they disintegrate in 1 shot. Soliders might take a few hits before they disintegrate 19:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:54 must have gotten lucky on those first couple 20:01 Most things don't have disint res as it turns out 20:02 Sources of disintegration are reasonably rare in vanilla, and slightly less so in Evil 20:02 with far more things that can fuck you up without remotely requiring it 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:72874 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:72985 20:17 I think it's worth burning a wish for frost bane just so I can dual wield it with the tsurugi of muramasa. 20:17 for the lulz 20:19 being able to wield disintegration is the most massively OP thing ever. 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 frost brand", on T:73358 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:8241 20:22 oh if only keolew was an aklys :-( 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:74423 20:38 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:75705 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided green slimes, on T:75706 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:12467 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 31530 points, T:12493, killed by a soldier ant, while unconscious from rotten food 21:26 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c3896276d7d7...261b0993e70f 21:26 [EvilHack] k21971 261b099 - Fix: placement of monster rider/steed when separated. 22:49 K2: I just entered hell2 (second demon prince) and there was no demon prince. It doesn't appear to be bones. 22:49 is there a chance the demon won't generate? 22:50 If they generated elsewhere in the dungeon, then no. 22:50 demon lord, and yeah 22:50 what demon lords have you encountered already? 22:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:77316 22:54 bouquet 23:08 sorry, ya... I have to think back because I started this before christmas 23:10 y'know what... I have Butcher which reminds that I encounted yeenoghu in the main dungeon. The lordless throne room was full of gnolls so I bet it was supposed to be yeeny's level. 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:78917 23:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]