00:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1096 00:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1358 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 628 points, T:1961, killed by a giant spider 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:42934 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:43417 01:07 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:33 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 01:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:44 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 01:50 hi 01:50 Hello hackemslashem, Welcome to #evilhack 01:52 'lo 01:52 @e?celestial dragon 01:52 No such monster. 01:52 Probably have to restart 02:17 Hmm, I'm eating elves but am not gaining any sleep resistance - I'm a monk and last time I quaffed a ! of enlightenment I don't think it said I was sleep resistant.  What gives? 02:31 dbanethacker: Must'e gotten stolen? 02:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:23420 02:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:53 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 909 points, T:2700, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 02:57 @e?pit fiend 02:57 pit fiend (&) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 65 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d2 weapon physical, 4d2 weapon physical, 4d4 hug create-pit | Align: -13 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, infravis, silverhate 02:57 Ooh, silverhate. Wonder if it's worth using a silver dagger as a monk. 03:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 9511 points, T:5105, killed by the wrath of Huan Ti 03:01 Oops. 03:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2457 03:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 1862 points, T:2556, killed by Mr. Angmagssalik; the shopkeeper 03:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1555 03:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1620 03:31 Now how'd you manage that 03:31 also I'm more certain even silver kicking boots would do way more 03:39 Umbire: Sac'ed a black unicorn on a black altar. 03:40 Bad Idea™ 03:44 Yep. 03:44 That'll be the first, and hopefully last, time I do that. 03:44 Incidentially, I just shot 70 darts at this floating eye. The damn eye is still floating. 03:44 Still has all 10 HP. 03:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3336 03:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 1330 points, T:1894, killed by the Goblin King 03:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 darts on an altar, on T:4249 03:59 qt: Did you email the devteam about this one? (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/132) - I can do it, I've just a bit mixed up with what's been reported and what hasn't. 04:00 arahael: Regeneration 04:01 You're gonna need shuriken or something highly enchanted assuming you don't just find an attack wand 04:02 Oh, interesting, the eyes have regen? 04:02 Or just that one? 04:16 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:18 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 21932 points, T:7957, killed by a giant mummy, while moving through the air 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:74 04:23 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 04:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:30 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 990 points, T:1450, killed by a skeleton 04:36 -!- arahael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:46 hackem on hdf when!?!1111 :) 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:43097 04:47 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43099 04:48 oh just saw hackemslashem post that it will be available today in a reddit thread https://old.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/zsswmm/future_of_nethack/ \o/ 04:50 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:43239 04:52 HYYYYYYPE 04:53 I wonder if K2 latest fix means that demons are immune to hellfire... 05:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:02 @e?floating eye 05:02 floating eye (e) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 1 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 0d70 passive paralyze | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, amphibious, regen, infravis 05:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:10 Regen - there it is 05:11 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:44134 05:13 Ah, so it's all of them. 05:15 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:25 cbus: Now it's in K2's hands :) 05:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a steel heavy war hammer entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:24349 05:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:31 cbus: I should've just said "The Future of NetHack is Here!" 05:33 When did floating eyes get regeneration?? 05:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:35 hackemslashem, I am very hyped and sorry if I am nagging about it going online but great job! :) 05:37 Thanks - I think I put too much pressure on myself with this deadline, but sometimes that's the only thing that will make me actually do something. I think it worked out though, almost everything works (afaik), the major bugs have been smoothed out (with a lot of help from the peeps here), and a lot of slash'em is alive again! 05:37 Also if you want splicehack content without the bugs we got that ;) 05:40 cbus: I've started making wiki pages for stuff too. I'm about half-done porting all my changelog stuff over to wiki format 05:41 great work 05:41 I dont think you should put too much pressure on yourself to get certain things "done before the hdf push" tbh 05:42 you can fix thing as they come up 05:42 I tihnk the most important thing is to get it up and running so ppl can start finding bugs :) 05:42 and enjoy the work 05:42 "there will always be bugs" 05:42 True :) 05:43 even in vanilla there are plenty of bugs to be found and vanilla does not add crazy amount of stuff from all kind of variants 05:44 I know, I'm really surprised I've found a handful in the past few months. The boomerang one was really funny 05:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:25498 05:53 development has to be sustainable or you burn out 05:56 True, bhaak must have a good pace because he's been going over a decade! 06:04 and I am getting my aeron tomorrow 06:05 perfect for binging hackem 06:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:27460 06:13 cbus: Nice! 06:15 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:30033 06:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class h), on T:44226 06:48 hackemslashem: when you do 'git log --pretty=format:'%ai %aN <%aE>' | cut -b 1-4,26- | sort | uniq -c | grep bhaak' in the repo, you see that it comes in waves 06:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05 bhaak: haha, yes I have seen that 07:19 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class V, on T:72973 07:19 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:72974 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:73010 07:23 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:73213 07:26 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 07:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:51 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:51 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:76188 08:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a mithril amulet of magic resistance, on T:15853 08:09 -!- chao is now known as stenno 08:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:76707 08:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful brown pudding, on T:76992 08:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 207491 points, T:40057, killed by the Paladin of Lugh 08:24 !tell hackemslashem I dont think I have contacted anybody about that, no, normally I only do that when I have tried to look into it myself. you should email them 08:24 I'm on it, qt. 08:24 (or open an issue on github) 08:28 mobileuser demons are already immune to hellfire 08:28 i just sat down, power goes out. running on backup batteries 08:28 internet will prob be next, soon 08:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:63777 08:29 lol tiamat scales 08:30 oof K2 hope you get power back soon! 08:31 a better question would be: if the player is a demon, are they immune to hellfire then 08:33 yes 08:33 !who 08:33 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] elron [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:33 !whereis elron 08:33 K2: [hdf-us] elron [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:77532 Gehennom level: 38 08:33 thx K2 08:34 nice, chromatic dragon scales have stoning res too 08:34 I won't actually need my dragonbane gloves 08:35 hellfire fixes from last night ar elive 08:35 as are shambler pokedex thing 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:77588 08:36 ok i actually have to go out in this mess, back later 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18039 08:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:78076 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a platinum shito entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18805 08:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:78612 09:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:11 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:79843 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:79845 09:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:20 hmm, we got whomped in nyc between 1-4 am, but now things are pretty calm 10:22 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 10:24 whomped? 10:32 the big winter storm 10:32 oh 11:20 !tell hackemslashem the wiki post sais "Removed two-weaponing restrictions imposed in EvilHack. Twoweaponing behavior should be the same as vanilla." but rangers can twoweapon in hackem 11:20 Will do, cbus! 11:25 what additional restrictions are imposed in EvilHack? isn't twoweaponing more powerful in EvilHack than vanilla? 11:26 oh maybe the stuff about weapon weight vs skill has been removed 11:33 !tell hackemslashem I also find it weird that gold keys break less often than other materials since gold is a very soft metal 11:33 No worries, cbus, I've got this! 11:35 !tell hackemslashem also a typo in the monster wiki page "These are just a smidge meaner than solder ants - because we needed more of those! (Thanks SlashTHEM)" (solder ants) 11:35 hackemslashem shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, cbus. 11:39 leaded solder ants 11:39 yeah I was laughing at that :D 11:39 (I do a bit of soldering some times because I have built a couple of custom mechanical keyboards) 11:40 oh that's cool cbus 11:40 any photos? 11:40 I can pm some :) 11:40 "solder ant" would be a great bogusmon 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:44111 12:15 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 12:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) had a staff of holiness entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:38616 12:47 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 12:47 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 12:47 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:06 where is the purgatory portal supposed to be? 13:06 west side of sanctum 13:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:12461 13:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 13:24 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest5686 13:24 -!- Guest5686 has quit [Killed (sodium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 13:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 13:24 ah, I was playing 0.8.0beta. Thanks... 13:24 -!- mobileuser56 has joined #evilhack 13:24 -!- mobileuser56 has quit [Client Quit] 13:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:32 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:33 !lastgame Arahael 13:33 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1671764947.evil.html 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:13395 13:41 #quit 13:41 heh 13:53 @e?medusa 13:54 hecubus? 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:15046 13:56 Loggers_VIII: hecubus decided not to help you any more 14:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 14:04 I ran out of Hecubus Bucks™ 14:04 hecubucks 14:05 lol 14:05 one asc=one hecubuck 14:06 but for a limited time you can buy our christmas bundle, and for only 79.99 you can receive 50 Hecubucks 14:07 that sounds like a great deal 14:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:15688 14:13 why WoW 14:13 why do you always spawn with one charg 14:13 *charge 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:15737 14:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:15752 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed dragonhide +3 T-shirt", on T:15753 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:17448 14:25 always pickaxe 14:26 w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w- 14:27 I believe it was the buddha that gifted us this sacred chant 14:29 no shurikens for you! 14:29 amateurhour: is that you wheezing from your upper respiratory infection? 14:29 haha 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:19401 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19412 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) refused to give up The Eyes of the Overworld to Master Po, on T:19651 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Po, on T:19653 14:48 I ate like four corpses 14:48 I'm not relinquishing my artifact you bastard! 14:49 tfw not weaponless and vegan 14:50 tsk tsk 14:50 staying vegan in evilhack is kinda hard as everything seems to encourage getting xlvl 30 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 197199 points, T:31907, killed by Master Kaen 15:00 RIP 15:00  Dang Kaen.  I should have had my " of Lifesaving worn and my ! of full healing in main inventory. 15:00 No free action ring, alas.  There go my dragonhide gloves. 15:01 He's a touch sonofabitch 15:01 !lastgame dbanethacker 15:01 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1671721458.evil.html 15:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:03 cast clerical: the bane of Evilhack players everywhere 15:17 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 15:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:18 mobileuser didnt ascend while i was offline did he? 15:18 ah no doesnt look like it 15:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:23 Hi K2! 15:23 o/ 15:24 still gotta kill bill first before I can do my asc run prep 15:24 gotcha 15:24 how are you surviving? 15:24 fine so far. winds have taken down power 15:24 surprised internet is back up to be honest 15:25 one of our neighbors had a tree fall onto a powerline right outside their house, caught the tree on fire 15:25 about a mile away 15:25 1.6 km for you :P 15:26 @e?Lucifer 15:26 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 15:26 the really strong gusts are for later tonight 15:26 so i may be offline all over again hah 15:27 -!- mobileuser96 has joined #evilhack 15:28 sorry K2 my internet connection is flaky, saw your reply on irclog 15:28 :/ 15:28 engineer coming next week... 15:28 that level value seems wrong 15:28 amateurhour lucifer's hp are inflated elsewhere 15:29 when Loggers used a stethoscope or whatever on lucifer yesterday lucifer was like level 70 or something 15:29 can't remember exact number 15:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:29 see his diff? 15:29 yes, 66 15:29 so seeing 70 in game is legit 15:30 right so 110 from pinobot seems wrong 15:30 that's higher than any other monster in the game 15:30 both diff and lvl 15:30 are we just agreeing with eachother than pinobot shouldn't say 110 or are you suggesting that 110 is right in a way I don't understand? 15:31 see src/monst.c 15:31 line 3543 15:31 110 is the correct value, pinobot is not wrong 15:31 is it just the classic every demon lord above level x is just extra hp 15:31 are you thinking its wrong becuase of how many hp lucifer has? 15:32 but lucifer has a hack to do their hp in a different place 15:32 so the level doesn't match up? 15:32 yes 15:32 lemme explain 15:32 man it'd be way better if pinobot could know what the "real" level of things were 15:32 when i was creating lucifer, at first i tried to make his actual lvl be 666, found out the max is 255 15:33 at 255, his hp was something like 1300 and his AC was ridiculous 15:33 much more superboss level than something you're expected to like 15:33 actually deal with on the new asc. run 15:34 i settled in at 110 to even other ascepts out, then made his hp be 666 exactly 15:35 I'm more bothered by the fact that the hp hack means that some monsters don't say their real level if that makes sense 15:35 not specific to lucifer 15:35 I didn't take damage from a Nazgul scream 15:35 like if you saw a lich chances are it'd be around the level pinobot says 15:35 @e?lich 15:35 lich (L) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: cold | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -9 | genocidable, breathless, regen, poisonous 15:35 @e?nazgul 15:35 Nazgul (W) | Lvl: 17 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 35 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 1d10 weapon level drain, 2d25 breath sleep, 4d4 scream loud | Align: -17 | breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker 15:35 but if you see a demon lord chances are it's around half the level 15:35 @e?demogorgon 15:35 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 95 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 15:36 yeah the lvl and diff dont really match for bosses 15:36 mobileuser96 really 15:36 !whereis mobileuser96 15:36 K2: mobileuser96 is not playing. 15:36 !whereis mobileuser 15:36 K2: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Inf Dem Mal Una) T:65190 Gehennom level: 34 (with Amulet) 15:36 Not deaf at the time? 15:37 nope 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1 15:37 Also for regular monsters I think pino gives the base level at least, in gameplay I imagine it's further adjusted by depth and stuff 15:38 pinobot gets its data strictly from the source code, so whatever is in monst.c 15:39 yahuh 15:39 mobileuser96 i'm taking scream damage from a nazgul in my current test game 15:39 What's mobile's AC? 15:39 the spread is 4-16 pts of damage 15:39 Maybe the 4d4 was mitigated to some low number that regenerated right away 15:40 Probs 15:40 oh i see 15:40 mobileuser96 what's your MC? 15:42 mc3 15:42 that's why 15:43 mc isnt supposed to affect sonic damage 15:43 Oh wow MC3 actually ultrastuffs something 15:43 what is 'ultrastuffs' ? 15:43 stuffed 15:43 nullified 15:43 blanked 15:43 etc. 15:43 but Ultra™ 15:44 i used uncancelled when i should have just used !mtmp->mcan 15:44 easy fix 15:45 quick question, can anyone tell what was giving me an extra point of MC in this game? https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1671486544.evil.html 15:45 bag of hesperides 15:46 thanks 15:47 K2 can 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:26151 15:51 ah MC3 15:52 doesn't need a fix :b 15:53 but I suspect the fix will be in before I can start my asc run ;-) 15:55 maybe not 15:55 i have some purgatory edits i'm working on, i'm not going to push those until after your game 15:55 you're too close to purg for me to make changes now 15:56 hmmm to wish for that oilskin toque or not... 15:56 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L27 15:56 it's a cool hat 15:57 are the complete items live yet? 15:57 no 15:57 waiting 15:58 right, better go kill bill :-) 15:58 lol is that his nickname now? 15:58 lucifer = bill 15:59 no... 15:59 my quest leader! 15:59 his name is Bill 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:26675 15:59 i see 16:00 Kathryn had a cloak of displacement today... that was scary 16:00 Master Po, Bill 16:00 yeah, annoying for melee types when she has displacement 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:42242 16:03 wtf Amaterasu Omikami, that was from sacrificing a kitten corpse. That's pretty fucked up, dude. 16:04 mobileuser at the forge - https://media.tenor.com/gSAwqNm5D0UAAAAd/kill-bill-sonny-chiba.gif 16:04 K2 I think elron is also pretty close to starting the asc run 16:04 lol K2 16:04 :P 16:05 Bill will be killed with my forged staff! 16:05 ogresmasher is awesome now 16:05 you're one ingredient away from ashmar 16:06 !who 16:06 K2: [hdf-us] Loggers [evil] Frozty [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] bouquet [evil] :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 16:07 but samurai wield 3 swords at once there's no space for a shield 16:07 -!- mobileuser96 is now known as mobileuser 16:09 lol 16:09 elron is on his home quest level 16:10 i just need to be careful when i push purgatory .des file updates, as long as I do it before anyone has loaded it, we're ok 16:10 i still have a bit to do so it'll be some time 16:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:28131 16:12 elron already did most of gehennom K2 16:12 right but he hasnt killed lucifer yet 16:12 meaning he cant enter purgatory 16:12 ah ok 16:13 i could push what I have now 16:13 hmm no 16:13 i willw ait 16:13 yeah why not, it will still be a while before I can start asc running 16:13 a friday evening code push the friday before christmas 16:13 no need to wait 16:13 i wanna get it all in one update, i dont like making multiple edits to .des 16:14 ah, sensible 16:14 "Your recall of this spell is gradually fading" 16:14 cast more of it 16:14 but when I read the spellbook: 16:14 You know "wizard lock" quite well already 16:14 oh 16:15 I probably learned just enough by casting it! 16:15 if you cast a spell enough times, technically you'll never forget it 16:15 yeah 16:15 mobihack will let you read spellbooks even if you still know the spell 16:15 amateurhourhack, you'll start knowing all spells 16:16 no you won't idk why you'd think that it'd be like that in amateurhack 16:16 even if you're a caveman with 6 int 16:16 :P 16:16 there's lots of different ways amateurhack will consider having spellbook management being less boring 16:16 but none of them would involve everyone knowing all spells from the star 16:16 t 16:17 fiqhack has an interesting take 16:18 dnh: reread whenever you want, gnollhack: never forget the spell, slashem: read multiple times up to 600% learning 16:18 slashem also has the learning when casting thing 16:18 carting around spellbooks and managing exact turns left is teh sux 16:19 kinda surprised priests have spellbooks. in d&d, cleric spells are granted via praying/divine insight 16:19 you just 'know' 16:20 wizards gotta maintain libraries 16:22 dnh has spellcasting working slightly different for the different types of casters 16:23 i wouldnt mind seeing 'these are wizard spells only, these are priest spells only' and only wiz can learn wiz, etc but that adds a level of complexity to nethack that isnt necessary 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:45292 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "stormbringer", on T:31449 16:23 aw didn't get it 16:24 having said that, when druid role is created, i'd like like some sort of separation 16:24 dunno 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:31477 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had a spellbook of poison blast given to him by Thoth, on T:19228 16:31 are we getting hackem tomorrow? :) 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had an etched staff bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:82609 16:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 43 points, T:277, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse, while praying 16:35 cbus i dunno 16:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) refused to give up The Idol of Moloch to the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:66139 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:66140 16:44 ping me if you add it :) 16:45 i'll definitely add it before new years, but i dont think before xmas will happen 16:46 and this is assuming hackemslashem says its ready 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:49081 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful gold dragon, on T:83373 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a pair of iron tekko entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:50400 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:33464 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:33470 16:54 is the portal to Vecna on the first level of Gehennom? 16:54 Yeah, right after the valley 16:54 thanks 16:57 That's a new one. Hobbit pickpocket used a figurine and it became my pet, ha 16:57 \o/ 16:58 using a figurine can backfire for a monster just like it can for the player 16:58 It immediately bit and killed him 16:58 hahahah 16:58 what is the monster? 16:59 pit viper 17:00 Nothing exciting 17:00 There's a superdwarf here with -15ac holding off a giant mob of gnome zombies 17:00 lol 17:01 zombies attacking everything can cause some fun situations 17:01 in VoTD a couple zombies killed a black dragon for me 17:02 Zombie corpses are a good way to thin crowds when they revive 17:02 yeah the grudges can be fun to watch 17:03 VaderFLAG, some of your purgatory suggestions have been implemented (just not live yet) 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:52123 17:05 excited to see what it looks like next time if I can ever get out of this sacrifice loop 17:09 he said something about it being in your hands 17:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:20 @e?Kas 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:35034 17:26 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5048 17:26 -!- Guest5048 has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:28 it doesn't say I defeated Gollum in achievements :-( 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:35852 17:30 woo nice one Loggers 17:31 I forgot to put my towel on for a while so he stole few more hit points than I woulda liked with his gaze 17:31 oh I forgot his robe 17:31 time to go back lol 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:35937 17:32 did you get the hands or the eye? 17:32 hands 17:32 I wanted the eye :( 17:33 I don't have a source of reflection other than dragonbane, and even if I had an amulet I need that slot for my amulet of flying 17:34 ah yeah, dragonbane is just too good... 17:35 if I somehow manage to get amulet of reflection and a ring of levitation I'll switch to the hands but for now it's not really viable 17:35 mobi if u had to pick between gaunts of purity and hand of vecna and dragonbane on a monk what would u pick? 17:36 purity, but here is my problem 17:36 does it protect worn rings? 17:36 I don't think it does cuz its metal 17:36 yeah that's a bit risky 17:37 must geno shocking sphere at the very least 17:37 or can rings be fixed against exploding? 17:38 I don't think they can 17:39 I'm not sure but I don't think they can be 17:39 yeah I'm not 100% either 17:39 does evilhack have extrinsic resists protecting invent? if so maybe some tshirt of shock res 17:39 the chargeable ones might have a bit more survivability 17:39 I think it does 17:39 amateurhour no 17:40 mobihack will have that 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:85667 17:41 mobihack sounds pretty epic tbh 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:36823 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:36898 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:36955 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:85904 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:85907 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:37043 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:85963 17:47 oh cool ring of levitation + amulet of reflection 17:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:86268 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:86350 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:86352 17:59 lucifer fight! 18:01 uh oh 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Lucifer), on T:86389 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a magic missile), on T:86403 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2916164 points, T:86405, killed by Lucifer (with the Amulet) 18:04 RIP 18:04 man :( 18:05 that was  r o u g h 18:05 Well that just wasn't happening huh 18:05 !lastgame 18:05 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1671831231.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1671372589.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1671764947.evil.html 18:05 2.9MM points used to be a normal ascension score. 18:05 it was like lifesaved -> back to 70 hp same turn 18:06 crazy 18:06 constitution drop fucked up carry cap, ended up burdened 18:06 Who is Lucifer, haha 18:06 You'll find out before long. 18:07 if you don't mind spoilers lacca I can explain 18:07 amateurhour: Please do:) 18:07 in the newest version of evilhack once you get the amulet the upstairs in the sanctum disappear 18:08 instead to get out you're meant to go west to a new area in the sanctum 18:08 guarded by Lucifer who is hella dangerous 18:08 then you defeat lucifer, enter a portal, it takes you to a new branch 18:08 the new branch replaces most of the asc run upwards 18:09 so far 3 people got to lucifer in the new version and 2 people died there 18:09 lucifer is  s l i g h t l y  more powerful than any other demon lord/prince 18:09 it's crazy hard 18:10 seems harder than most dnh demon lords at a glance, obviously excluding the nastiest dnh ones 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38330 18:10 Wow 18:10 How do you all, idk, play without spoilers? (considering that to make a good progress it can take a couple of weeks) 18:10 I mean no one is updating the wiki it seems 18:11 my strategy is to hit things until they die and if they kill me try again next run 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38355 18:11 I can't speak for everyone but I keep my eye on the code changes 18:12 yeah I look at the github a lot also 18:12 the pokedex is helpful too 18:12 this change to the asc run etc is really new so the wiki hasn't had time to be updated 18:12 but generally speaking I think the evilhack wiki article is very good at getting updated 18:13 it's actually pretty fun playing before everything is completely figured out and documented 18:13 and when it isn't we can flutter our eyelashes at the person that can turn wiki articles into magic 18:14 * amateurhour flutters eyelashes 18:14 :3 18:14 but man Lucifer is way scarier than I thought he would be :( 18:16 for sure 18:16 maybe we can brainstorm a secret strat that we make sure the evil devs don't hear about 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:38716 18:17 well I mean potion of sleeping is my best bet at this point 18:17 paralysis too 18:18 @e?lucifer 18:18 pinobot is down 18:18 still? thought it came back up earlier 18:19 it did for a bit, but then it went back down again 18:19 yeah 3h ago I used it here 18:19 did we lose K2 as well then? 18:20 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 18:20 Yes, he warned of internet problems. 18:21 maybe boulderfort poly black dragon 18:21 breaks polyless conduct though :( 18:22 sleep/para might not be enough to kill whilst they're asleep with like melee 18:24 would have to repeat the sleep/para step 18:24 drain res :( 18:25 was thinking black dragon form gave drain res but lol that's vanilla 18:25 maybe a whole bunch of cockatrice eggs from a boulder fort could work if they ever landed 18:25 Luci has stone to flesh too 18:25 yeah but the cooldown on that was fixed recently 18:26 sleep/para is still a large chunk of free damage, but yeah it probably wouldn't work to just use one cuz 666 HP 18:26 maybe it would work if you had grayswandir and a shitton of increase damager modifiers 18:27 lol I'm finding so many honey badgers in gehennom 18:27 admittedly, it's where they belong, but it's still funny 18:27 coldsplosions from a boulder fort would work well as a spellcaster but not every role is suited for it 18:28 hm 18:28 Tl;Dr boulderfort epic 18:30 how would a healer win this fight 18:30 I guess spellcast for their damage maybe 18:30 They can still do magic missile decent enough 18:31 staff of Aesculapius invoke could help too 18:31 Healers still have skill in aklys as well 18:31 Knives are stupid easy to make 18:31 how many knives would you need lol 18:31 boulder fort+highly enchanted knives would work 18:31 you'd probably have them thrown back at you tbf 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Lolth, on T:39942 18:33 who gave that hezrou the clearance to summon her??? 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:54085 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:54093 18:35 oh are you fucking kidding me 18:35 the automatic kick from grand master martial arts got my boots disintegrated 18:36 that seem silly 18:36 *seems 18:39 No replacements, huh? 18:39 Also meleeing a black dragon? 18:39 in which case why 18:40 well dragonbane is disintegration resistant, and I didn't know the boots thing could happen 18:40 that was my guess, still pretty unfortunate 18:41 can't really fault you either but yeah the autokick makes it likely that'll happen 18:41 I think there's another pair up on like level 12 so it's time to go scavenger hunting 18:41 I can't remember why K2 didn't want to prevent autokick happening in that circumstance 18:41 centaurs won't do it 18:42 yeah I knew centaurs had autokick exceptions like that so I didn't see why it wouldn't happen for martial arts 18:43 it's intended but I can't remember why 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic harp", on T:55148 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:55149 18:43 also punching gray drags with dragonbane will still cancel you iirc? 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:40768 18:44 jesus that asshole almost did me in 18:44 amateurhour I believe so 18:45 oh wait a minute there were some speed boots in Orcus Town 18:45 he realized, after going all the way up through Gehennom 18:46 nice 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 bone large splint mail of decay", on T:55150 18:49 wb K2 18:49 but also yeah, Orcus Town is good for backup stuff 18:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:55172 18:51 oh nice they were +4 18:51 got em off of a player monster 18:53 oh fuuuuck 18:53 I got Demogorgon 18:55 @e?demogorgon 18:56 i'll have to restart pinobot again 18:58 !tell mobileuser hellfire does not burn objects in open inventory 18:58 No worries, K2, I've got this! 18:58 i forgot to tell him that from yesterday 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a storm giant), on T:42023 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1893896 points, T:42024, poisoned by Demogorgon, while attempting to cheat Death 19:00 wait what? 19:00 why did I die 19:00 !lastgame loggers 19:00 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1671763339.evil.html 19:00 lame 19:00 illness 19:01 yeah 19:01 I thought that life saving cured 19:01 nope, it never has afaik 19:01 I should have used a potion of full healing instead 19:02 demogorgon is more dangerous than lucifer imo 19:02 but i think that'll be open for debate 19:02 demo is definitely at least on par with lucifer 19:02 I got an unlucky roll for my damage, he must have been on like 3 HP 19:03 :/ 19:03 oh nevermind 19:03 for some reason the last two turns I was attacking the hill giant shaman instead of  demo 19:04 demo was still low but it ended up being misclicks that got me killed lol 19:04 F 19:04 that's weird I totally thought I was attacking demogorgon 19:04 ooooof :( 19:05 Stunned from illness double-tap? 19:05 i've done that before 19:05 I don't think I was stunned 19:05 considering it was pretty consistently the hill giant shaman 19:06 my brother in christ 19:06 Xp:17/959999 T:42024 Satiated TermIll Stun 19:06 oh Iol 19:06 but yeah that's because if Demogorgon lands both disease attacks in his round of hits, the second one just stuns you 19:06 else he'd be even worse if you can imagine that 19:06 K2 did you turbobuff demogorgon or something? 19:06 no 19:07 what makes you think they're more dangerous? 19:07 I do remember hearing that there was a time when the second one was also sickness 19:07 the illness attack 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 10061 points, T:5843, killed by a fire ant 19:07 the illness+stun is a pretty ridiculous combo 19:08 pretty much a stunlock if you don't have a boatload of full/extra healing potions 19:08 it's a vanillaism 19:08 added in 3.4 19:08 and again I 19:08 yeah just hard to imagine that's more dangerous than lucifer because there's some hard counters 19:08 don't even disagree tbh but it's like 19:08 but I suppose demogorgon can appear out of nowhere and lucifer can't 19:08 Orcus summoned demo and yeenoghu on me once 19:09 if both illness hits landed and there wasn't the stun failsafe you'd be just fucked if you got slowed or demo got speed 19:09 yeah double illness is worse 19:09 demogorgon is by far the most powerful monster in vanilla 19:10 maybe you could make a case for death or pestilence if they had more HP 19:10 but there's sickness res 19:10 oh goddammit I should have worn the hand 19:10 yeah but how feasible is that for a given bu-- oh right Hand of Vecna 19:10 if you wore the hand no dragonbane 19:10 I was genuinely asking but I'd also forgotten Hand gave that 19:10 could also have a convict start, get it that way 19:11 I could have used the hand, I had levitation + amulet of reflection 19:11 I just didn't want to fuck around with my inventory 19:11 what are the other options for demon princes anyway? I got Asmodeus last game and he was a bit of a pushover 19:12 First tier: Juiblex, Baalzebub, Geryon, or (new demon lord) Baphomet 19:12 Second tier: Dispater, Yeenoghu, (new demon lords) Lolth, or Mephistopheles 19:12 Third tier: Asmodeus, Demogorgon, Tiamat, or (new demon prince) Graz'zt 19:13 so genuinely consider yourself fortunate 19:13 Is Tiamat the chromatic dragon from vanilla 19:13 buffed to heck 19:13 But yes 19:13 @e?Tiamat 19:13 Tiamat (D) | Lvl: 103 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification magic drain | Confer: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 6d6 breath random breath, 2d4 cast spell, 4d6 claw amulet steal, 6d6 bite physical, 6d6 bite physical, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, 19:14 Compare 19:14 @?chromatic dragon 19:14 Chromatic Dragon (D) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification magic | Confer: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid | MR: 30 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 6d6 breath random breath, 0d0 cast spell, 2d8 claw amulet steal, 4d8 bite physical, 4d8 bite physical, 1d6 sting physical | Align: -14 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, inf 19:14 Chromatic Dragon was always Tiamat in all but name 19:14 since she fits the loose Mesopotamian theme of Cavefolk 19:15 (loose = basically just the pantheon) 19:15 and then Graz'zt... 19:15 @e?graz'zt 19:15 Graz'zt (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 35 | Gen: unique | AC: -9 | Atk: 4d8 weapon physical, 6d6 claw stun, 4d6 cast clerical, 3d6 claw item steal | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 19:15 that item steal seems horrible 19:15 Graz'zt is the nastiest one and until recently there wasn't much alternative to just boulder fort and aklys 19:15 Seems, he says. 19:15 but MR was lowered drastically so it's possible to cancel them 19:15 and gauntlets of purity can block theft maybe 19:15 he's an absolute prick 19:16 literally worst one though 19:16 and not just because he literally has a dong-shaped level map in some variants 19:16 heheheh dnh 19:16 has asmodeus been buffed at all 19:17 @e?asmodeus 19:17 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 3d6 claw slow, 6d6 cast cold, 6d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 19:17 @?Asmodeus 19:17 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d4 claw physical, 6d6 cast cold | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 19:17 although dnh has some surpremely nasty demon lords, most of them are weaker than lucifer I would say 19:17 of course it's cast clerical 19:17 Also slowing 19:17 it's always cast clerical 19:17 but if you have extrinsic speed you don't feel that as much 19:17 hahaha TRUE 19:17 I forget, does Asmo's frost spell work similar to hellfire? 19:17 yeah speed boots kind of make slow a non issue 19:18 If not that could be a "simple" buff 19:18 not an urgent one in the slightest mind 19:18 but hellfrost sounds Cool™ 19:18 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?4068 hahaha 19:19 lol 19:19 whoever downvoted that masterpiece is a jerk 19:19 huh why is it downvoted? I swear I don't understand ppl sometimes 19:19 prob amy again 19:19 gonna add a downvote because I'm angry that people downvoted 19:19 she sees my name, instant downvote 19:19 jk 19:19 i could promote slex, she'd downvote it 19:20 heh amateurhour 19:20 umbire what is hellfire exactly 19:21 fire but you don't get to chump it with the resistance 19:21 in evilhack, hellfire is the regular fire spell attack that comes from a demon. fire res wont fully protect you from damage 19:21 you do protect yourself by being a demon 19:21 or otherwise not having a soul for it to sear 19:21 or by being nonliving (no soul to burn) 19:22 uh oh don't do that to asmodeus' cold 19:22 this makes the ghost rider sad 19:22 I hate that stupid cold attack 19:22 why is it so powerful 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 3256 points, T:2464, quit 19:22 1) he's a demon boss 2) he can cast vulnerable to cold on you so if you have full cold res, drops it to 50% 19:23 but like 19:23 30d6???? 19:23 see point 1 19:23 every demon lord needs to do 123123 damage with every spell because it's evil 19:23 I guess that would only be be halved if you have cold res 19:23 1000d1 19:23 another vanilla-ism, mind 19:23 except cold res straight up clowns it 19:24 it's in such a weird place gameplay-wise 19:24 in evil it's still a threat with resists not being an uberprotect + the vulnerability spells 19:24 through personal experience I was made VERY aware that if you do not have cold resistance, you are not going to kill Asmodeus in vanilla 19:24 it's simply not happening 19:25 but then if you have cold resistance he's less threatening than a grid bug 19:25 ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 19:25 let's not stretch it that far. 19:25 ok not a grid bug 19:25 he is kind of a joke in vanilla 19:25 soldier ant 19:25 he is like 15 factors less threatening with cold res though, yes 19:25 but without, you take one step and (Mario Bros. Slipice SFX) 19:26 gotta sleep gl all 19:26 I think I managed to tank it once and then the second attack killed me 19:26 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:26 gn amateurhour 19:26 vaderFLAG: just saw the ascension! Congrats! 19:27 I still think we should have ice statues in some variant 19:30 xnh has statues of different materials 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1347 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1526 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:1536 19:34 yeah but I don't think ice is a thing yet 19:36 ooh amulet of life saving :) 19:37 \o/ 19:38 the dream of every slightly below-average nethack player 19:39 is there anything to the far right of gollum's cave? I walked out into the middle but couldn't go any further 19:40 *on gollum's cave 19:42 possibly 19:43 hmmm 19:49 alright I'm going to bed these new sokoban levels are too taxing on my brain 19:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:19748 19:50 !tell Loggers_VIII most of the soko levels should have maps on the wiki - if they don't, tell me and I'll see how fast I can get on it 19:50 Will do, Umbire! 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3616 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 3128 points, T:3650, killed by a giant ant 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] kscheirer (Kni Hum Mal Law), 709 points, T:1539, zapped himself with a wand of fire 20:15 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:40 oh shit, a Lucifer death and a Demogorgon death 20:40 Someone who was watching elron fight Lucifer please tell me what happened -- seeing those two full heal potions come out juuuuust a bit too late really hurts 20:51 grats vader 20:55 I think the con drop from life saving slowed elron down enough to kill him 20:55 Loggers meanwhile ate shit due to not noticing the stun and dying to HP damage with life saving 20:55 while still being diseased 20:58 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 216 points, T:347, killed by a water elemental 21:07 !who 21:07 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 21:10 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f8244dadb063...55b9d4fe55cc 21:10 [EvilHack] k21971 c1a6e7f - Some more Purgatory tweaks. 21:10 [EvilHack] k21971 488e232 - Fix: AD_LOUD feedback cases. 21:10 [EvilHack] k21971 55b9d4f - One more Gollum's cave tweak. 21:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6841 21:10 !whereis dbanethacker 21:10 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil]: (Mon Gia Fem Cha) T:2187 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 21:12 arahael, dbanethacker - not a bad idea to save/reload 21:13 Done 21:13 ok 21:13 those updates are live 21:13 Done. 21:14 Thanks for a better game! 21:14 Those changes should make gollumn's cave significantly easier for early game chars. 21:15 Aw, did you remove the piranhas? 21:15 Two of them. 21:15 Sigh.  There goes easy early experience points. 21:16 I guess what's good for the many outweighs the good for the few (or the one!), eh? 21:16 or was the needs instead of good? 21:17 Well, as a monk, I would have to just brush up against the water, once, and BAM! Dead. 21:17 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:18 same amount of monsters, just different config 21:19 He's already left. :) 21:19 ah well 21:19 irc log :) 21:19 Not his log, no, though. 21:20 Plenty of piranhas in the gnomish mines anyway. 21:29 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 21:29 I think he means that dba can peruse the hardfought logs for the channel 21:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat (goblin) for the first time, on T:8697 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:57042 21:33 Ah, I forget there's public logs. 21:38 *sigh*, the invisible aphrodite stole a bunch of my stuff and then escaped to the big room! 21:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 29681 points, T:9639, killed by a boiling potion 21:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:40 I wasn't ready for the big room. 21:42 :/ 21:43 sadly, it seems the big room was ready for you 21:43 Loggers_VIII: Message from Umbire at 2022-12-23 19:50 EST: most of the soko levels should have maps on the wiki - if they don't, tell me and I'll see how fast I can get on it 21:43 oh yeah, also been taking my sweet time constructing the category for Evil's soko maps 21:43 with page to match 21:45 I've done most of them enough times now that I know the answer, but it takes some messing around to remember it 21:45 luckily I got the recommended 90 minutes of sleep and my brain is recharged and ready to go 21:47 90 minutes of sleep! 21:50 I tried to get more, but the ghost of my former run came to me in a dream and said "go.... kill those ampersand sonsabitches" 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58044 21:59 Ha. :) 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:6158 22:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7009 22:10 Lep bait 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7611 22:26 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:60680 22:46 I have this one lizard corpse that won't stack... 22:46 It's not been nibled on or anything. 22:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1331 23:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:2659