00:40 -!- botifico has joined #evilhack 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 664 points, T:1126, fell into a pit 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 502 points, T:1105, killed by a wererat 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2595 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2759 01:36 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 01:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 3076 points, T:4181, killed by an arrow 01:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1972 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2266 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 2379 points, T:2278, killed by a piranha 02:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 10632 points, T:6392, killed by a giant mimic 03:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3495 03:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4265 03:18 maybe if I did it again, I wouldn't remove the antimatter vortices completely but just reduce their speed so to make them mostly stationary 03:19 they had a speed of 18, so the could be very dangerous 03:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:5954 03:39 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1833 03:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2421 points, T:2066, killed by a bolt of cold 03:44 I keep going down too fast, and melee'ing too much. 03:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1302 03:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9405 03:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1502 03:55 Oooh. A "pair of goggles". 03:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1955 points, T:1653, killed by a piranha 03:56 Gollumn level is super dangerious. I never learn. 04:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 171 points, T:238, killed by a wand 04:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 297 points, T:658, killed by a dart 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 dragonhide gauntlets of power", on T:7265 04:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2629 04:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2486 points, T:2641, killed by a piranha 04:17 * arahael *never* learns. 04:18 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a stone golem, on T:8435 04:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1042 04:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1348 04:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13931 04:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16108 04:55 !tell K2: Found another bug with hiding polyd hero (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/132) Fix is here: https://github.com/elunna/hackem/commit/081c22aac6b4baf8a3bfc7b3ec91d9f92acd8e96 04:55 Will do, hackemslashem! 04:55 amateurhour: This one was only possible to figure out with rr, thanks to you! 04:55 (And a lot of patience waiting for dumb giants to throw boulders at me while hiding in a pit) 04:57 is that a vanilla bug too perhaps? 04:57 lol I didn't write rr or use it to help but I will happily accept all credit 04:57 >:) 04:57 I know it's in xnh, but I gotta take a shower somebody else check vanilla :D 04:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish helm entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16799 05:02 entrusted? does Amaterasu want it back later or something? 05:03 elenmirie: take good care of this dwarvish helm. it has great importance to me. 05:05 it looks like Loggers the Monk will be the first to go on the asc run 05:05 heh 05:05 well it is +5... 05:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (soldier ants), on T:3741 05:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Croesus, on T:45079 05:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:19031 05:38 no weapons of excellence at Ludios or the Castle :-( 05:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an egg, on T:8071 05:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 27323 points, T:8798, burned by molten lava 05:44 Damn. 05:44 Didn't even get the paranoid warning, just got too overburdenedd trying to throw the zombie into the lava, and missed the message. 05:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water moccasin, on T:19766 06:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20622 06:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 799 points, T:1049, killed by a brown mold 06:27 amateurhour: Unfortunately I didn't record this one, ever seen anything like it? https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/131 06:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1081 06:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1160 06:30 seen similar things in dnh before but not other variants really 06:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1715 points, T:1180, killed by a piranha 06:31 which bits were set in the worn mask? 06:31 oh it says in the sanity message 06:32 I think readied and in alternate weapon slot 06:32 in swapwep and in quiver 06:32 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:33 is a chakram a boomerang? 06:33 Maybe a weird polymorph bug? 06:33 Yea, it's an upgraded boomerang 06:34 I need to remind myself how boomerangs work 06:34 when you tried to reproduce it did you catch it after throwing? 06:36 https://youtu.be/w6urTOBJa7I?t=198 06:36 I don't think so... 06:36 Lemme find a big room 06:37 I bet it's to do with autoquiver and autoreturning objects 06:37 so if you try reproduce also do your repro attempts again with autoquiver toggles 06:37 toggled* 06:41 Man, my arc sucks at recatching these things 06:42 You would think at expert you would rarely get hit by the returning boomerang but nooooo 06:42 it's a dex roll I think 06:43 Ah, dex is only 7 ok 06:43 Fair 06:43 so could be worth wishing up gain ability 06:43 or gaunts of dex I guess 06:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2399 06:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2528 06:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:21573 06:46 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 06:46 So far no luck, made a big stack of chakram, wielded one and one is in the alt slot, rest are quivered 06:46 autoquiver is on 06:47 what if you have all of them in swapweapon slot then throw one? 06:47 wait a minute: " C - 31 circular blades (wielded) (alternate weapon; not wielded) (at the ready)" 06:47 No crash though 06:47 oh 06:47 yeah you reproduced it there 06:47 I threw the alternate one 06:47 the sanity checks don't run all the time 06:48 they run when fuzzing for sure 06:48 ohh 06:48 That's 3 masks right? 06:49 Let me see if that happens with regular boomerangs too 06:50 when do sanity checks even run 06:51 ah: if (iflags.sanity_check || iflags.debug_fuzzer) 06:51 Yes, same with boomerangs. 06:52 Wow. Boomerangs are so rarely used that no-one has ever found this :P 06:52 you can turn on sanity checks in wizmode options I think 06:52 But also, it depends on someone offhanding a boomerang, and wielded boomerangs are a bad idea so I guess it kinda makes sense 06:53 I know stuff with firing got rejiggered in 3.7 so worth maybe trying to repro there 06:54 Yea then we can just submit it to the devteam 06:55 * amateurhour nods sagely 06:55 this is the way 06:58 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "fixed +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:5561 07:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:6660 08:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:9177 08:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:47484 08:04 -!- chao is now known as stenno 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook of slow monster given to her by Moloch, on T:9944 08:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:10300 08:23 hi 08:23 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 08:23 K2: Message from hackemslashem at 2022-12-21 04:55 EST: Found another bug with hiding polyd hero (https://github.com/elunna/hackem/issues/132) Fix is here: https://github.com/elunna/hackem/commit/081c22aac6b4baf8a3bfc7b3ec91d9f92acd8e96 08:27 hi 08:27 Hello amateurhour, Welcome to #evilhack 08:27 o/ 08:27 gday 08:27 Hello cbus, Welcome to #evilhack 08:28 aloha 08:28 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 08:32 hackemslashem you might want to test that out in 3.7 as well. they made a fix for certain conditions hiding under stuff in a pit that evilhack added (https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/7a1db1d0bd2e9fe71f67fa97fb726f691d3481f9) so maybe vanilla needs your fix also 08:35 whoa, your maybe_unhide_at() is a lot different than evilhack's 08:36 i have an older version of maybe_unhide_at is appears 08:37 *it 08:41 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:44 another day, another bug 08:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a staff of divination entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:12299 08:45 hmm 08:45 tab isnt working for usernames 08:46 I'm going to have to wish up a weapon of excellence if I want to impress the dishwashers... 08:46 hackemslashem, I confirmed, that bug exists in 3.7 too 08:46 you found a vanilla bug \o/ 08:46 wooo 08:46 Oh yea, I have adapted maybe_unhide_at from xnh, but had to update it for that bug 08:47 I spent a lot of time hiding in pits this morning :P Happy you were able to replicate it 08:48 yay 08:51 Hey - monsters affects by berzerk are not scared of Elbereth/scare monster right? 08:51 ber[s]erk? 08:52 right 08:52 ok, nice 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:42787 09:25 Brr, Zerk, it's cold out today 09:27 so this big 'bomb cyclone' that is headed this way... its in the mid/high 20's now. friday we're supposed to get heavy thunderstorms and a high of 55° F, and then less than 12 hrs later, temp drops to 15-17° F 09:28 BAH 09:28 Yeah it's bonkers 09:28 all the snow we have now will be gone 09:28 and replaced with rain, then ice 09:29 i cant recall never having a white xmas in vermont, this might be a first 09:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 mithril trident of excellence named Dishwasher No. 9", on T:48716 09:32 lol 09:44 wait really? you're not getting snow? 09:44 that forecast is basically the same as nyc 09:45 idk how it is supposed to dump snow on the midwest but then abruptly dump rain and 50 degrees on the northeast 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Neferet the Green, on T:43451 09:46 where is luxidream when you need him 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:43509 09:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/8f627e6667eb...04130e56e9f5 09:59 [EvilHack] k21971 04130e5 - Fix: impossible (hiding under nothing?). 09:59 hey hey its back 09:59 thanks hackemslashem, nice catch 10:00 i havent imported 3.7's u_at() macro, heh 10:01 aosdict we have snow now, been here for about 2 weeks, but that t-storm is going to melt it all away :( 10:01 that big storm system is pushing warm air our way bleh 10:01 then 40 degree drop within 12 hrs 10:01 we might see snow again on xmas day 10:03 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 10:03 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (lithium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:03 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 10:06 potential hazard is the roads freeze with all that water and temps well below freezing for a while 10:06 same deal for me, traveling on christmas eve may be dangerous 10:08 I see coming up that it will be 14 degrees after the storm, feels like -2 10:08 we have 10 degrees here for some reason 10:08 after -10 for the last days 10:09 aosdict yup 10:10 we're supposed to travel a bit for xmas eve, not far. but if everything is ice, we'll hunker down 10:11 my family is planning out all their christmas eve stuff around the patriots game lol 10:11 i didn't meet up with the rest of my family some days ago because i watched the WC finals instead lol 10:14 hahah aosdict 10:14 not umcommon here 10:14 :) 10:14 *un 10:14 huh, I guess I thought people that far away from boston wouldn't really care about them 10:15 then again I saw a surprising amount of their merch in millinocket, maine 10:24 its the new england patriots, not the massachusetts patriots :P 10:25 fun fact - there are small pockets of hard core steelers fans throughout NE 10:25 I would expect you find small pockets of hard core fans of whatever out-of-town team anywhere 10:25 expats from wherever 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:44869 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:45733 10:44 woop 10:44 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 10:44 VaderFLAG, what forged artifacts do you have currently? 10:44 Just glamdring, and I haven't ended up using it any 10:44 I should have started this one as neutral so I could get vorpal before going lawful 10:44 next time maybe 10:44 gotcha 10:44 honestly thought you were gonna say "none bcuz i cant find a stupid hammer" 10:45 ha, nearly 10:45 i can forge with my bare hands 10:45 dont need no stinkin hammer 10:45 Glamdring, Ashmar, Sword of Anni, Archmagi Staff, GoPur and Shadowblade - it's my understanding that those are the ones that are "forgeable". 10:45 yes 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 27844 points, T:9754, killed by a crocodile 11:00 VaderFLAG you should forge the staff of the archmagi 11:01 yeah but how to get vorpal 11:02 its not vorpal anymore 11:02 oh? 11:02 magicbane + secespita 11:02 is secespita unaligned? 11:02 to an infidel, chaotic otherwise 11:02 it can appear randomly 11:02 Wait when did it become secespita 11:03 Not that I can get that either 11:03 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7213dcb1b3fb94ff206bc242b413f0d4465a7372 11:03 musta missed that one 11:04 Damn, and I find out shortly after converting away from chaotic too! 11:04 easy to miss considering it's two changes but only 1 is mentioned in the commit title :P 11:04 this is the way 11:05 also this - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forge_(dungeon_feature)#Artifacts 11:05 VaderFLAG can you wish for it? 11:05 I can, but going wishless this time 11:05 right 11:05 presumably you can still altar camp for it it'll just take 5ever? 11:05 so if I wish for Magicbane I could get that staff... 11:05 yes 11:06 I'm lawful now, so I don't think I can sac for it 11:07 I can never remember how it works once you exhaust the coaligned artis, first one has to be coaligned for sure 11:07 is it coaligned, then coaligned+unaligned, then once all those exhausted all available? 11:07 I can barely stand getting first sac gift so I have no idea 11:13 first one is coaligned, after that you can get both unaligned and coaligned 11:14 you can never get cross-aligned 11:15 ah :( 11:16 hackemslashem: paxed's debugging with rr page that I had mentioned like 5x in the past is up again 11:17 I'm sure you've done a whole bunch of stuff with rr now so might not find it as useful anymore but I think it's great 11:18 https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/nethack/debugging-with-rr.html here's the link anyway if u wanna read it l8r 11:23 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:46945 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:46955 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 176206 points, T:43693, killed by the Minion of Huhetotl 11:34 !lastgame 11:34 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1670965457.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1671621712.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1671615054.evil.html 11:35 ooof burdened 11:36 And not fire resist vs Xiu is bad news 11:36 yup 11:39 hmmm "a celestial-scaled leather studded armor" 11:39 hmmmm! 11:39 descaling those archons is pretty hard, that's some valuable stuff 11:40 hah 11:41 I haz zhe kwestions 11:42 does deafness protect against celestial dragon sonic attack? 11:43 yeah 11:43 dont forget your toque 11:43 ah 11:43 cloth toque 11:44 with oilskin 11:44 2 birds , one stone 11:44 16d4? geez 11:45 "resistant to most forms of non-physical attack" 11:45 so what is their vulnerability? 11:46 those things are meaner than chromatic dragon, at least chroma is weak to silver and needs orthogonality to zap you 11:46 oh Nazgul also "fixed" 11:48 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/7a36e8794bde84bbcb2b9411b122e941d297e06e 11:49 yeah I'm not a great code reader, but magic missile still does damage? 11:50 It looks like it 11:50 looks like all other attacks don't 11:50 So you happened upon a celestial dragon scaled armor, without seeing the dragons yet? that's fun 11:51 yeah, NPC 11:51 Oh so they've seen things 11:52 he said to me, "the things I've seen! just kill me!" 11:52 lol 11:52 omg the horror! 11:55 !whereis mobileuser 11:55 K2: mobileuser is not playing. 11:55 prob out doing dishes 12:01 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:01 heh I'm back 12:01 :P 12:01 !whereis mobileuser 12:01 mobileuser: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Inf Dem Fem Una) T:53223 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13 (with Amulet) 12:02 mobi Loggers was asking yesterday what everyone's favourite roles were and I suggested yours were infidel and priest 12:02 hopefully wasn't too far off 12:02 amateurhour is monk i think 12:04 yeah that's right 12:07 d - a wooden heavy war hammer 12:08 that's ok for forging right? 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 835 points, T:1050, killed by the Goblin King 12:08 yes 12:10 noice 12:10 :) 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 467 points, T:638, killed by a dagger 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 18405 points, T:6119, quit 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 142 points, T:148, killed by a system shock 12:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Magicbane", on T:53721 12:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:30258 12:33 oooooh you're gonna do it, arent you mobileuser? 12:33 another player on reddit *just* asked about the same thing 12:34 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/zmmllm/evilhack_081_has_been_released/ --> scroll down to Guts-0 comments 12:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:30610 12:35 oh wow elenmirie... rng likes you :P 12:35 gimme dragonbane 12:36 have you seen fire brand? 12:36 no 12:36 you're one ingredient away from the sword of annihilation 12:36 oooh that sounds twee 12:37 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/5df101335179e3bf398aa4b93de138351eb9cac7 12:39 I would say, once you get crowned, you can finally become a serious spellcaster 12:39 demon Pw is huge 12:40 crowned infidel is really a true combo role 12:40 melee + spellcasting 12:40 yeah melee with Angelslayer is not bad 12:41 not bad? expert with trident. that's a lot of damage 12:41 but never as good as the 2-weapon roles 12:41 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:41 yeah not complaining :-) 12:41 heh 12:41 for forging 12:41 magicbane or secespita first? 12:41 doesnt matter 12:41 what does matter is enchantment, BUC 12:41 \o/ 12:42 whichever has most enchantment, make it second 12:42 got it 12:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:53967 12:43 \o/ 12:43 haha there is livelog even! 12:44 you are the first to forge the staff 12:44 * amateurhour gasps 12:44 I'll stop writing "archmagi" on this stick, then 12:44 you used a forge to do it instead of... just doing it in lava or something? :P 12:45 hahahah 12:45 having hands of vecna on should allow you to forge without a hammer, while standing over lava 12:45 so many dirty jokes i can think of right now 12:45 so 12:45 many 12:46 go on then 12:46 u wont 12:46 :D 12:53 can you still wake up the wizard from outside the tower with a drum of earthquake 12:55 not sure... but you can with the horn of gjallar 12:56 well it's worth a shot then I guess 13:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:33878 13:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:54199 13:01 let the altar camping commence 13:04 hopefully Moloch is a bit more generous than Huan Ti, otherwise you're gonna be there for a while 13:09 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 13:11 Loggers I got myself up to level 24 first, that should help... 13:11 that's true 13:12 Impatience has always been my downfall 13:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:35834 13:12 are you starting the asc run soon? 13:13 yep 13:13 noice 13:13 just gonna grab a drum of earthquake and maybe do ludios for some protection cash first 13:14 I'll probably get my ass handed to me by lucifer and purgatory but I don't want to sit around farming for HP lol 13:17 K2: Where u_at? haaa 13:17 :P 13:21 nevermind we are postponing the ascension run because someone thought it was a good idea to let monsters zap wands of cancellation 13:23 the video game has released an ultimatum and that ultimatum says 'farm for resources lol' 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:49527 13:24 farming :( 13:25 what got cancelled exactly Loggers_VIII? 13:25 all my armor enchantment 13:25 actually the speed boots are +2 13:25 silver lining 13:25 you're ok 13:25 My favorite is when I forget to dump the bell of opening somewhere and that gets its charges drained and I don't notice until after killing the wizard 13:26 armor getting cancelled isnt that big of a deal. i'd be more concerned about weapons 13:26 i like to keep a few extra scrolls of enchant weapon on hand 13:26 well the shuriken aren't +7 anymore but that's less pressing as a monk 13:26 ah right, monk 13:27 keep your hand of vecna enchanted, good to go 13:27 oops that reminds me that I left the bell at my old stash 13:27 that goes up to +7 btw 13:27 oh nice 13:27 anyway it's fine I will surely get a wish from Croesus' throne and then I will have a marker 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:70686 13:29 did you know that throne wishes are nerfed? less chance than in vanilla. 13:29 it's still 50:50 either u get it or u dont 13:29 true that 13:31 well the throne is gone but luckily k2 when designing this map designed it specifically for fountain quaffers and put like nine fountains so that's definitely a wish :) 13:32 and I got money for protection so realistically speaking the ascension run is still on 13:32 what's the dlvl? 13:33 portal to ludios was on lvl 12 13:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:38265 13:34 nice 13:34 the extra ft ludios maps came from unnethack if i recall 13:34 there's the one with all the drabridges, super dangerous 13:34 *drawbridges 13:35 yeah I have to say there's at least a 90% uptick in drawbridge frequency in this game from any of my vanilla games 13:35 thankfully I lucked out and know the knock spell 13:36 knock knock / who's there? / Loggers / Loggers who? / Loggers let me in dammit! 13:37 lol 13:37 :P 13:37 the force bolt spell is much more useful against drawbridges ;-) 13:37 I blow then all up 13:37 * them 13:37 amateurhour: That rr walkthrough is great - lots of tricks I don't know 13:38 hackemslashem, does artiwishing works the same way in hackem as in evil? 13:39 I like how it explains the thought process 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hill giant, on T:20149 13:41 I got a troll with a poly wand cornered in sokoban... If I get adjacent to it, will it melee instead of zap? 13:42 fortunately, first zap turned me into a Hill Giant (already playing a giant) 13:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:46 oh wait a minute high priest of moloch has a marker 13:46 I'll just enchant my armor then 13:47 that would be funny if you're currently lvl 5. Playing the loooooong game. 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:71214 13:48 the hell was he doing hanging out on lvl 10? 13:48 oh hezrou summoned him 13:52 When I'm attaching scales to my armor, do I pick the armor or the scales when I do enchant armor scroll? I don't remember it giving me a choice before 13:54 scales 13:54 Thanks 13:55 does murdering a coaligned priest make you lose protection? asking for a friend 13:56 * VaderFLAG pretends to make scandalized expression 13:56 Loggers yes 13:56 :( 13:56 I think there should be a feature where you can kill your god if you're mad at them 13:56 are you chaotic? 13:57 yea 13:57 cause now I'm not sure... 13:57 to the wiki 13:58 no, I think it's still no good as chaotic 13:58 dammit now huan ti is displeased for no reason 13:58 I think I prayed before the timeout 13:58 cbus: Yep 13:59 @e?lucifer 13:59 No such monster. 13:59 hahaha 13:59 we need pinobot updated 14:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:00 ok pokedex works 14:00 oh goddammit why is every monster a clerical spellcaster 14:01 hey he isn't sleep resistant 14:01 dont say anything that could make the game harder 14:01 think about the future generation 14:02 i want my kids to grow up in a world where ascending evilhack is possible 14:02 doesn't monster magic resistance kind of stomp on sleep though 14:02 it can 14:02 for the wand, perhaps 14:02 for the potion not so much 14:02 depends on how high their MR is and the source of the sleep spell (wand/spell/potion) 14:03 though it depends, who're you fighting 14:03 lucy fur 14:03 well I'm hopefully gonna be fighting lucifer 14:03 oh you will be 14:04 not if I can help it! 14:04 * amateurhour dies 14:04 Let's check out rodney 14:04 @e?wizard of yendor 14:04 Wizard of Yendor (@) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison | Confer: fire poison | MR: 100 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d12 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast clerical | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, tele, nopoly, covetous, infravis 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5718 14:05 btw is lucifer covetous? 14:05 si 14:06 hm 14:06 also btw, rodney has 50% chance of MR 14:06 666 is a lot of HP 14:07 and you should know that occasionally the wizard will have obscene AC as well 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:21026 14:07 my plan for the wizard is basically "zap death if he doesn't die beat him to death" 14:08 that's the only plan that rly works tbh 14:08 false. there are other ways 14:08 the best plans are often the simplest 14:08 such as? 14:08 cone of cold 14:09 hit it till it dies 14:09 personally was considering that under "beat him to death" but sure 14:09 that implies melee 14:09 if the wand of kill doesn't kill, then kill 14:09 \o/ 14:09 could shorten it even more 14:09 'if not this, then that' 14:10 I mean there are other ways than killing the wizard but they just don't rly work in evilhack from what I can see 14:10 like level draining and sliming 14:10 ? 14:10 level drainign works awesome 14:10 *draining 14:10 yeah but I mean level draining TO SLIME 14:10 in wizmode I couldn't get sliming to land at all 14:10 even with omega level drained wiz 14:10 to slime? huh 14:10 i've never tried sliming 14:11 basically the reason to do it is that if you successfully slime them 14:11 (hard to pull it off) 14:11 and then DON'T kill them 14:11 i like level draining the wiz, because then he cant cast his higher level spells. like dbl trouble 14:11 every time they reappear they're just a lil slime that can't cast spells or do anything scary 14:11 hahaha 14:11 that's awesome 14:11 i didnt know that was a thing 14:12 TIL 14:12 aosdict that should be a tnnt ach 14:12 it's a real pita to do it though because you gotta poly into a slime and land hits 14:12 well this is one of the strats ppl use to get "never kill the wizard" trophy 14:12 so it's kinda already one in a way 14:12 neat 14:13 yeah i never knew about that 14:13 so cool 14:13 hardest part is landing a hit on the wiz as a slime 14:13 yeah 14:13 especially in evilhack when they can randomly have like -30 ac or whatever record ac we saw 14:13 get a bunch of intrinsic to-hit bonus 14:13 hyperbole: -50 ac wizard 14:17 oh fuuuuuuck 14:17 all my protection is gone 14:17 Can't the wiz melee you to trigger the sliming passive? 14:17 in Evil, anyway 14:18 Or, no, you're talking about manual sliming in vanilla 14:18 never mind I can't read 14:18 amateurhour: does the sliming passive not trigger from his weapon attack? 14:19 I couldn't get it to happen in wizmode at least 14:19 hm 14:20 sea dragons are still digesting me while I'm wearing a ring of slow digestion, is that intended? 14:21 Isn't it more engulfing than digesting outright since sea dragons are more watery 14:21 Maybe it's related to that 14:21 (also are you sure you're actually wearing the ring) 14:22 yeah, I was fighting a shimmering dragon and a sea dragon. shimmering dragon spat me out, sea dragon didn't 14:22 Yeah they use the water elemental engulf attack so it's not technically a digest I suppose 14:22 No stomach acid involved 14:22 I see 14:22 alright makes sense 14:23 time for some priest killing 14:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:74769 14:30 isn't there a small chance of getting a wish from the magic 8 ball 14:31 A very small one, yes 14:31 Also which pet did it 14:32 I did it 14:32 I was killing coaligned priests for my money back and I was just feeling a wee bit chaotic 14:33 Oh 14:33 Usually pets end up doing it for people 14:34 I will get a wish from this thing 14:35 a 1 in 100,000 chance is a 100% chance if you're determined enough 14:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:37 every time you shake it it's a 50% chance 14:37 ^ amateurhour taught me that 14:38 facts and logic 14:42 alternative facts 14:43 Right, so I know x:0 wands dust if you try to zap them 14:43 they*can* turn to dust 14:43 sometimes you'll get one more charge 14:44 and whether you do or don't they go poof after 14:44 that's established 14:44 does that apply to engraving attempts? 14:44 or does it prevent you outright? 14:44 dunno about engraving 14:48 the magic 8 ball wish chance is a very sneaky kind of evil, I'm coming to realise 14:48 thank you 14:48 it really is very clever 14:49 it used to be an order of magnitude more common to get 14:49 heh 14:49 because it's literally a free wish 14:49 like I am incapable of turning that down 14:50 if sacrificing is a skinner box the 8 ball is a free lottery ticket dispenser 14:50 my priest got angry... does taming work I wonder 14:50 it does 14:51 good! thx 14:51 I tamed a high priest on the astral plane my last asc lol 14:51 well, pacified them after accidentally stabbing them 14:52 damn uncursed taming didn't work 14:53 rip 14:53 confused taming extends the range 14:54 yeah but I was next to him 14:54 @e?aligned priest 14:54 aligned priest (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: shock | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 1d4 kick physical, 0d0 cast clerical | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 14:54 failed the MR roll, nothin' doin' 14:54 something special with moloch priest maybe? 14:54 oh just MR resist 14:55 damn why didn't I bring my harp 14:56 brave brave sir robin 14:59 who will be the first to enter purgatory? 14:59 who will be the first to conquer Lucifer? 15:00 inquiring minds want to know! 15:01 yeah I am looking forward to see the fight 15:01 I was on track to be there soon but then ludios happened and then I accidentally lost all my protection and now I discovered that this stupid 8 ball can give me a wish 15:02 it's not worth it 15:02 yeah... 15:02 alright I'll just go get some protection and kill rodney 15:02 but... the wish 15:03 then I'll use marker from priest to enchant armor 15:03 K2 I know right??? It's tantalizing 15:04 alright I'll save the ball for my next good evil run 15:04 there's only like 64% chance of getting it by attempt 100000 15:04 its like this - https://youtu.be/4WRHWqThSBE?t=106 15:05 you legitimately want to do all that before Gehennom 15:05 or at least before Rodney 15:05 at least imo 15:06 do what 15:06 also K2 that is an excellent comparison lol 15:07 :) 15:08 Umbire it took a further 3 charges from the magic harp but my priest is peaceful again 15:12 'here, hold this dish' 'thank you my son, we are friends again' 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon her by Ptah, on T:53247 15:13 K2 is it new that when you kill a sphere it explodes anyway? 15:13 si 15:13 I like that 15:13 Evil 15:13 i took that from xnethack muhahah 15:13 I always thought it was weird how they could just be killed without exploding 15:13 yeah that messes up my alter camping big time 15:14 well there's always complaints about altar camping 15:14 I create a monster, it happens to be a sphere 15:14 so now maybe this'll reduce that 15:14 if I kill it the priest gets angry 15:14 :) 15:14 lure it away 15:14 kill the priest 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:15153 15:14 pet it and make freinds 15:14 would the sphere exploding on its own anger the priest also 15:14 friends even 15:15 no 15:15 its attacking you when it explodes 15:15 then there you go 15:15 let it blow 15:15 ? 15:15 let it blow~ 15:15 it won't blow, it's a coaligned temple 15:15 mobileuser, it explodes on its own when it attack you 15:15 that hasnt changed 15:15 not in a colaligned temple 15:16 bdbueded;nd 15:16 anyway 15:16 spheres suck 15:16 lure away 15:16 yeah if coaligned temple then just let it float away before you kill it 15:16 I'll just leave this temple when it's full of spheres 15:17 oh here's a neat idea. when a gas spore explodes, it should knock you back 15:17 'neat' 15:17 > neat 15:17 "neat" 15:17 you're right that is neat 15:18 crossing moats with gas bomb jumps let's goooooooooooo 15:18 ever been near a big explosion? good luck staying in place 15:18 pair it with a new "create gas sphere" spell for maximum effect 15:20 heh 15:20 make sure the knockback stuns for an insane amount of time 15:20 of course 15:20 just don't get exploded near 4head 15:20 use [rare artifact] next time 15:22 here's a fun idea, nazgul screams rupture your eardrums irreperably, you can no longer hear for the rest of the game 15:23 hmm still only -22 AC despite hitting the (soft) protection max 15:23 whatever that's enough faffin about 15:24 faffing - to faff 15:24 do you not say that in the US K2? 15:24 no 15:24 is it like the phrase 'fap' ? 15:24 lol 15:24 amateurhour: I mean I get it but this would unironically generate responses of "just use some junk projectiles" 15:24 heh 15:25 also I say it sometimes 15:25 but then I say a lot of things 15:25 for the gas spore you see with tele- 15:25 uh 15:25 wa- 15:25 Umbire you say a lot of shit, I have no idea what it means 15:25 uh, just intuit where they are 15:25 I just heard a guy say it the other day and decided to add it to my repertoire 15:25 was it me 15:25 no 15:25 were they british? 15:25 could also just play slower 15:25 yea 15:25 but that's asking a bit much 15:26 (legitimately so unfortunately, am guilty) 15:26 is faffing like goofing around? 15:26 i dont want to use teh google 15:27 faff is overcomplicated nothingwork 15:27 cuz i really want to confuse my kid with it if its not a dirty phrase 15:27 It's a synonym for "to google". It's the search engine they use over there, faff.info 15:27 -Quit wasting time searching the internet- 15:27 if something is a faff it's overcomplicated and a waste of time 15:27 faffing around is doing a whole bunch of nothing productive 15:28 wasting time 15:28 so yes, goofing 15:28 goofing is being lazy though and not doing anything 15:28 after a fashion 15:28 or doing something unrelated 15:29 amateurhour: counterpoint - faff'll make you want to goff 15:29 goof* 15:29 brain pls 15:29 lol I gotta check whether that's something funny on urban dictionary now 15:29 literally "goth as written in my immortal" 15:29 go from there 15:30 my immortal is the funniest thing ever 15:30 I convinced a friend of mine to start reading it recently 15:32 just realized I forgot knock spell while using 8 ball 15:32 time to search the whole dungeon for the book 15:33 quit faffing around 15:33 heh 15:33 :P 15:33 perfect 15:33 K2 is going to use that IRL now 15:34 '/fæf/ UK informal. to spend your time doing a lot of things that are not important instead of the thing that you should be doing: I wish you'd stop faffing about and do something useful!' 15:34 haha nevermind found a random wand of wishing 15:34 *opening 15:34 idk why I wrote wishing 15:34 you can describe something as a "right faff on" as well 15:34 cuz its what you secretly wanted 15:34 my subconscious is very optimistic 15:34 i am totally using this 15:35 whilst you were faffing around... 15:35 I've got a total of 13 death charges so that's definitely enough for rodney 15:35 narrator: it wasn't enough for rodney 15:35 and I've got a total of two fists so that's definitely enough for rodney if he has MR 15:36 enough for the narrator 15:36 haha 15:36 'Kathryn, stop faffing around and get ready for school!' 'Daddy... ' 15:36 lol 15:37 more authentic if you say "faffing about" tho 15:37 gotcha 15:37 'faffing about' 15:37 should genetic engineers be able to teleport to dodge an attack? ("The genetic engineer teleports, nimbly evading your kick") 15:38 I thought that was just for quantum mechanics 15:38 it's hard to think of slang we use on the regular that'd you'd be amused by 15:39 in Yorkshire it's common to greet strangers as cock or hen or pet or duck 15:40 like ey up cock, meaning hello 15:40 yeah that wont fly 15:41 shame 15:41 arent the 'tw' and 'c' words used a lot more by the british? 15:41 yep 15:42 yeah, though depending on the context they are the most offensive in the tier list 15:42 it's rodney time 15:42 pretty offensive here too, and you dont really hear them used 15:42 good luck Loggers_VIII o/ 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:82240 15:42 unless the party in question really wants to be vulgar/offensive 15:42 Gogogo Loggers_VIII! 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:82242 15:43 its like winning a Rory for the use of the word 'Belgium' in a serious screenplay 15:43 gonna say the t word even though you censored it in the following sentence then not say it again 15:43 ok 15:43 I've heard some americans pronouncing twat like it rhymes with what, which is grossly offensive to me for some reason 15:44 huh 15:44 ugh 15:44 it seems the c-word is highly offensive in the us 15:44 yeah its pretty bad 15:44 unlike in australia :) 15:44 heh 15:45 ever watch 'The Boys' on amazon prime? 15:45 hehe yeah, it was nice 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:82446 15:45 one of the few exception to "superhero crap" that I watch 15:45 one of the main characters, Butcher, he says t and c every other word 15:45 and everyone around him is like 'omg wtf did you just say??' 15:46 it's all about the context innit 15:46 lol that show was pretty good 15:46 oi 15:46 I have an old military buddy who takes extreme offense at the word 'moist' 15:47 and yes, I like to mess with him 15:48 @e?high priest 15:48 high priest (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: 7 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 2d8 kick physical, 2d8 cast clerical, 2d8 cast clerical | Align: 0 | omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, infravis 15:48 I think it's 1/21 for a priest to get an MR cloak? 15:48 it's veery low 15:51 did I miss livelogs for killing the wizard and doing the invocation 15:52 20:45 for invocation 15:52 hmm they shows for Loggers_VIII 15:52 showed 15:52 are you talking about yourself mobileuser? 15:52 !who 15:52 K2: [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] :: [hdf-us] Loggers [evil] dbanethacker [evil] Frozty [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 15:52 no Loggers 15:52 ah ok 15:52 yeah what amateurhour said 15:52 7 min ago its there 15:53 maybe I missed it because of all the faffing :-) 15:53 lol 15:53 new artifact - Faff 15:53 wielding it, perpetually stunned/confused 15:54 int and wis drop to 3 15:54 you can also say something like "that's a lot of faff" meaning it's a lot of bother 15:54 object property! 15:55 has the wizard's cooldown for harassment been lowered? 15:55 yes 15:55 it has? when? 15:55 when purgatory became real 15:56 actually it was lowered way too much and then was raised a lil again 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the human high priest of Moloch, on T:82809 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:82812 15:56 oooh here we go 15:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:57 magic marker my beloved :) 15:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58 boots called jesus boots :') 15:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:59 lol 16:00 beat the drum! 16:00 hand of vecna will be decent against lucifer 16:00 he isnt cold res 16:01 nice 16:01 oooh yeah butterfly kick that shambling horror 16:01 hiya! 16:01 (i'm watching) 16:01 the drum doesn't seem to work, a couple monsters beat on a randomly generated one 16:01 mobi it went from like 1/8 chance per 50-150 turns to like 4/11 chance or something for a bit 16:02 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Lucifer), on T:82916 16:02 then to 2/10 I think 16:02 ooof Loggers 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a storm giant), on T:82920 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Lucifer), on T:82921 16:02 this is death 16:02  Lucifer is horrible 16:03 damn 16:03 how can I go down in a silly way 16:03 throw the grapefruit at him 16:03 yikes 16:03 just poked my head in 16:03 toot toot bugle 16:03 here's some acid in your eyes! 16:03 the only thing I can think of is throw amulet and hope lucifer goes for it 16:03 and dodge all hits from demons 16:03 jhc lucifer was way meaner than I thought 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3066772 points, T:82923, killed by a pit fiend (with the Amulet) 16:04 :( 16:04 that was unfortunate 16:04 That is a LOT of damage 16:04 sadface 16:04 did you use the drum to summon him to you? 16:04 I thought vecna fists would melt him 16:04 the difficult part is chewing through his massive HP bar 16:04 The drum did work actually 16:04 that's why we were in the temple 16:04 hmm... why did you do that? 16:04 I wanted to see if it would work 16:05 ah 16:05 @e?Lucifer 16:05 No such monster. 16:05 science! 16:05 lies 16:05 but also probably has cold res 16:05 where you normally encounter him, you wouldnt get surrounded like that 16:05 he doesnt have cold res 16:05 weird I thought he summoned those monsters 16:05 Oh is he in sort of a hallway? 16:05 If there was no message for the monsters, Rodney probably sent them 16:06 in a confined area 16:06 So he's tethered to the exit, and doesn't warp to the upstairs like a normal demon would eh 16:06 oh wait a minute do the stairs disappear 16:06 yes 16:06 I knew he was covetous, so my thought process was "the closer I am to the stairs when I fight him the better" 16:06 they did the second you got the amulet 16:06 that was mainly just bad execution then 16:06 Oh, the upstairs go poof? yikes 16:07 the upstairs going away is good 16:07 he can't heal without them 16:07 that makes me feel a lot more comfortable about fighting him next then 16:08 i should prob make him immune to being woken up via drum/gjallar 16:08 I was worried I'd have to go through that healthbar multiple times lol 16:08 I don't think I've ever seen the inhabitants of the sanctum die quite that fast 16:08 there's a whole paragraph description when you encounter him, i dont know if you got that 16:08 no, I didn't 16:08 alright time for a new run 16:08 Is it possible for the amulet to teleport to underneath lucifer? 16:08 that fucker's going down 16:08 you got him down pretty far on hit points 16:09 yeah he was around 160 I believe 16:09 VaderFLAG, i disabled the AoY teleporting if dropped in the sanctum 16:09 Oh bless you 16:09 because if it went somewhere it shouldnt there, could make the game unwinnable 16:11 i didnt see, it scrolled by too fast, your hit points dropped fast each time you were life saved. did you get stunned somehow? 16:11 !lastgame Loggers 16:11 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1671486544.evil.html 16:11 oooh the pit fiend 16:11 getting tossed down into a pit 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an alchemy smock entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1399 16:12 ^ oh wow thats a great first sac gift 16:12 oh yeah 16:12 except for the whole needing a robe thing 16:12 heh 16:12 I destroyed my robe 16:13 punished for random use-ID 16:13 ? 16:13 yea 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 331 points, T:1505, killed by a water moccasin, while praying 16:14 one of the many occupational hazards of playing fast and loose 16:15 did you assert dominance and throw your robe in lava? 16:15 Loggers_VIII, no shame in that late game death. lucifer is no joke, and the nasties summoned was just bad luck 16:16 for sure 16:16 it just gave me motivation to kick his ass 16:16 hell yeah 16:16 hackemslashem: The Doppelganger (starting race) has not been ported (yet) - it needs more R&D so it's not easily abusable. 16:17 I could provide some of that R&D if you wanted 16:17 heh 16:17 i would recommend forging the gauntlets of purity. they are silver 16:17 Quick reader! 16:17 Umbire: How do you create a redirect page? 16:18 #REDIRECT [[Target page]] 16:18 Wow. 16:18 Easy peasy 16:18 Oh yeah, why the hard no on lycanthrope? 16:18 No real horse in that race, just sake of asking 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:883 16:19 I hate them 16:19 hey hackemslashem, reading your hack'em page 16:20 You ever tried to play a lycanthrope? It's like peeing on an electric fence 16:20 [x] Baalzebub, Geryon, Dispater are back to being a princes (demoted from lords). They should be bribable again. <--- princes are higher rank than lords 16:20 Smacks forehead, oh 16:22 is the icequeen branch still present in hack'em? 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 241355 points, T:48476, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 16:23 !lastgame 16:23 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/evilhack/dumplog/1671539572.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1671656983.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1671615054.evil.html 16:23 :( 16:23 luck ran out 16:23 :/ 16:23 I was playing pretty recklessly 16:24 rip :( 16:24 ty 16:24 K2: Page says nothing about removal so 16:24 well that's why i'm asking 16:25 Yea it should still be in there - but the warning sounds are not present lol 16:25 hahah 16:25 my assumption is yes but hackemslashem should still-- there we go 16:25 Kind of half removed it 16:25 i try not to make assumptions if i can 16:25 But it's still there! 16:25 \o/ 16:26 I also want Sheol... Not sure how to combine them yet 16:26 make Kathryn the guardian to Sheol? 16:27 make the branches fight it out for who is allowed the cold terrain, give the other one warm desert 16:27 or, make her dwelling a deeper post-Executioner level 16:27 kinda fits the castle theme after a fashion too 16:27 Who's meaner? Executioner or Kathy? 16:27 kathy, no shot 16:28 at least if we're going off like, base stats 16:28 Executioner would probably get a major upgrade or two if being ported to Hack'EM 16:28 I only defeated Kathy once and died from her a few times so she gets my vote.  Haven't faced my Ex, though, except perhaps in real life.  ;-) 16:28 i need to figure out how to work in gymnastics moves and brazillian jiu jitsu for the ice queen 16:28 but yeah I look at it as you breach the border, take on her royal guard, and then the queen herself 16:28 I killed the executioner once with daggers from a distance, never got up close luckily 16:29 K2: dodge that's used for CTRL + D kicking 16:29 ? 16:29 except randomly with each melee attack 16:29 ? 16:29 considering the ice enchantress literally can't die and can cast turbospells of pwnage I'd pick her 16:29 also is jiu jitsu a more defensive art or no 16:29 its grappling 16:29 She-ow-l 16:29 because depending on that you could implement an occasional passive-- ah 16:30 she, ow, then L 16:30 it was a half joke 16:30 see, that's a point towards merging the branches 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8603 points, T:2961, killed by an elder minotaur 16:36 the rng is a might testy 16:36 polytrapped? 16:36 you flew too close to the sun, it's fighting back 16:36 yeah polytrap 16:37 unavoidable, gnome stepped on polytrap that was right next to the stairs and apparently elder minotaurs are followers 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (elder minotaurs), on T:1 16:37 ...so who's gonna tell him 16:37 Umbire: With the doppleganger, I'm thinking something where you have to kill/chat/eat a monster before you can poly into it. Kind of like how splice makes the pokedex work 16:38 hackemslashem: That's how it already works, you're much more likely to get a monster's form down if you've eaten its meat 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:13579 16:38 The problem with dops in SLASH'EM is more the XL 9 poly control 16:38 THEM pushes it to like the mid-20s at least 16:39 you are what you eat 16:39 Oh weird, didn't know that it worked that way in slam lol 16:40 Also, #youpoly in SLASH'EM for elemental mages always turns you into a dragon of your element 16:40 even if you're a Doppleganger 16:40 Yea, that's lame 16:40 Unsure if that was intended or not 16:41 nothing in slashem was intended it all just sorta fell out that way 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:708 16:41 opinion wouldn't change much if it was but I genuinely wanna know, it feels like one of those gray area things 16:41 time for mini-me dance class, see you all in a bit 16:43 K2 you should take dance classes yourself 16:44 Learn how to waltz, maybe. I'd like to try taking a class like that, it sounds like it might be fun 16:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14402 16:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:47 Umbire: If I'm editing at the same time, will it merge my edits :$ 16:49 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:49 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:49 Hmm, nope - no worries 16:51 Yeah, edit conflicts can happen 16:51 Most I did was adjust the phrasing of the divergence from SLASH'EM 16:52 So you can just copypaste that section onto your revision and replace it 16:52 or I could redo it if you want, in this case it won't be a big deal 16:52 All good 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4749 16:53 I'm trying to convert from my nice markdown changelog, but maybe I'll just link to it... 16:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:56355 16:53 wtf 16:54 not even an artifact 16:54 mobileuser: Now you can do SCIENCE! 16:54 heh 16:54 well, better come back when I'm level 26 16:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:55 It's funny to think how much of Evil is ultra-refined SLASH'EM 16:55 I guess marker day ended and it's alchemy smock day now 16:59 "The vampire bat turns into a vampire queen! You destroy the vampire king!" lol 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6487 17:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:15709 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 15514 points, T:6604, killed by a human zombie 17:07 cornered by energy vortex 17:07 ugh 17:07 time for a break 17:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] hackemslashem (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:28279 17:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 51360 points, T:17650, killed by a death ray 17:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] hackemslashem (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had a banded mail entrusted to her by Anu, on T:30506 17:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1324 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1856 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2627 points, T:1898, killed by a piranha 17:32 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] hackemslashem (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:34001 17:33 omg 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:13160 17:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:57957 17:46 -!- dbanethacker15 has joined #evilhack 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 38513 points, T:13814, killed by a giant spider 17:47 Dang - how to stop withering? 17:47 Currently no cure for it iirc, healing/regen can soften the blow though 17:48 Yeah - no healing available - I couldn't get the staff of healing to help me, alas. 17:48 YANI: A player killed by a giant spider will have a web trap placed on their square, optionally with one or two eggs 17:50 Sounds like Aliens to me (horrified!) 17:55 not in the corpse 17:56 just webbed up food for later (or for the children, either/or) 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:00 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:00 Same effect, most likely, eh? 18:15 neh 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:57367 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:16712 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:57746 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Gno Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:58184 19:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:08 loggers is back and ready to rumble 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:891 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 607 points, T:894, killed by a piranha 19:14 of course 19:22 hiya 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 879 points, T:1284, killed by the Goblin King 19:23 there are ways to stop withering 19:24 Is there? 19:24 yes 19:25 blessed extra healing potion, non-cursed full healing. praying. staff of the aesculpious (sp) 19:26 could also poly into a non-living monster 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 594 points, T:836, killed by a djinni 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3267 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3267 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a tripe ration, on T:3269 19:31 fortune cookies are animal products?? 19:32 vegetarian but not vegan 19:32 they use eggs and stuff 19:32 the more you know 19:32 (egg whites if you wanna be specific) 19:32 also butter, vegan diets exclude dairy as well 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3872 19:35 huan ti best god 19:35 Loggers_VIII: Some IRL are vegan and others aren't. 19:35 I guess dungeon cookies are all the same brand 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5229 19:37 YASI: Fortune cookies should be vegan and non-vegan, 50/50 chance of it breaking your conduct! 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4167 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5418 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4333 19:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:460 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a wand of striking on an altar, on T:5910 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2441 points, T:5282, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 230 points, T:808, killed by a falling object 20:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:973 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class b), on T:8103 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:9139 20:28 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 16265 points, T:9321, killed by a plains centaur 20:31 -!- dbanethacker15 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:13 qt you still around? 21:22 :/ 21:30 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 21:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:00 !who 23:00 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] CaptSplat [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:00 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±14] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/04130e56e9f5...75d12284c875 23:00 [EvilHack] k21971 293ba48 - Tweak the type/number of monsters in Gollum's cave. 23:00 [EvilHack] k21971 a4b8f81 - Prevent waking up Lucifer before actual encounter. 23:00 [EvilHack] k21971 132ddaa - Allow pokedex for shambling horrors in wizmode. 23:00 [EvilHack] ... and 2 more commits. 23:02 !whereis CaptSplat 23:02 K2: [hdf-us] CaptSplat [evil]: (Sam Gia Fem Law) T:8430 The Gnomish Mines level: 8 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9474