00:05 !who 00:05 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] bouquet [evil] zor [evil] :: [hdf-au] omghax [evil] 00:05 [hdf-au] [evil] omghax (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 8 points, T:14, killed by trying to drink molten lava 00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 695 points, T:1426, killed by the Goblin King 00:07 [EvilHack] k21971 starred EvilHack - https://github.com/k21971 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:83190 00:36 ...and I evaporated it 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide tshirt of decay", on T:83628 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2389 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3853 01:44 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #evilhack 01:47 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4228 points, T:4167, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1514 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1878 points, T:2946, died of starvation, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:53 k2, heh ppl want a clan specific chest for TNNT, I feel that being exclusive if you dont play in a good clan or not a clan at all 02:54 (comments on the reddit post) 03:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:23 cbus: I can't parse the part after the comma 03:26 clan specific chests are exclusive since people without clans won't get the goodies 03:26 program it such that people without clans are in the "no-clan" clan 03:28 the problem is, how do you get the clan into the nethack runtime? then it's easy, add a sanitized clan name to the file that is saved and you automatically have a partition over the clan names (including the no clan) 03:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:51 -!- hackemslashem2 has joined #evilhack 04:06 -!- d[-_-]b has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07 -!- hackemslashem2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:29 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #evilhack 04:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:34 -!- d[-_-]b has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:37 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 04:40 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #evilhack 04:56 -!- d[-_-]b has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 -!- version has joined #evilhack 05:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:27 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:36 Just had a thought, isn't Dirge mithril? 05:37 yes 05:38 And orcish Knights can obtain it, right? 05:39 I see, aversion to mithril you mean? I think it's fine when wearing gloves. 05:40 Yeah but it's still odd that you can get it in a hated material to begin with, considering the steps taken to avoid that everywhere else 05:43 pretty hard to keep all the possible permutations of race/role/artifact weapon consistent... 05:46 is orc knight a recent addition? 05:47 It's been around a hot minute, pretty sure 05:47 Apr 10, 2021 05:48 must have missed that at the time 05:49 dunno how 05:49 (hindsight being 20/20 and all, mind) 06:08 have we gotten any ppl asking about hacking on this channel? 06:08 another one on #nethack now (he pmed me after I said welcome) 06:10 There's been the odd one-off, but overall much rarer. 06:11 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:18 Far as Dirge, I think making it gemstone would be a quick enough fix, though that makes Sword of Kas a tiny bit less unique 06:23 so is evil0.8.1 a new release? 06:32 yup 06:32 did it hit last night? 06:32 not sure but mobileuser seem to be playing it on eu.hardfought.org so I guess so 06:32 yup it is up 06:34 my only goal: gauntlets 06:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2386 06:43 It's up! \o/ 06:46 beholder is tracking realtime, but hecubus isn't 06:46 I prefer hecubus :-) 06:50 best 8.1 change: default text when renaming levels 06:52 Ick, need to resize my terminal for this. 06:52 Uhp, forgot to save, that wasn't wise... 06:52 Oh nvm, I'm fine. 06:58 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 230 points, T:459, killed by a wooden arrow 06:59 What's this TH thing, again? 07:00 TH? 07:01 oh, status line? to hit maybe? 07:01 i assume magic cancellation and to hit 07:01 yep, to-hit is my first guess 07:02 Ah. 07:08 its to-hit 07:08 grats on the release k2 07:08 thx 07:11 Also see scrollback re: dirge 07:11 Knights start with gloves yeah, but still just thought about it 07:12 dirge stays mithril, orc knights can deal with it 07:12 Fair enough 07:15 did 8.1 start bones-free? 07:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:1798 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4637 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2114 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3060 points, T:2356, killed by an elven watch captain 07:22 ah F 07:22 again forgot Cleaver is not nice around peacefuls 07:24 krm26 yeah it has to 07:24 old bones wouldnt be compat with new version 07:30 go forth and create new bones :-) 07:30 now the pressure is on to leave a good first bones! 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5317 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1927 07:57 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 07:57 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5458 08:01 Hi all - I'm enjoying the patched version of EH that was just released! Any writeup of what was modified? What does MC and TH stand for in the bottom? 08:02 Magic cancellation and to-hit. 08:05 heya dbanethacker, i'm doing a reddit post later today about the new version release 08:05 was too tired to do it last night 08:06 -!- version is now known as stenno 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pony, on T:6077 08:11 Understood - I saw that it was compiled last night - great job ! 08:11 !who 08:11 K2: [hdf-eu] UmberConductor [evil] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:11 thx dbanethacker 08:12 What's your favorite thing about the new version? 08:13 I just noticed that "I'm getting to really know my weapon" message with Mojo so that's neat ! 08:14 That's a Splice touch. 08:15 Got it. Haven't tried Splice yet so it's still greek to me for what that really means. :-D 08:16 if you use your un ID'ed weapon enough times, you'll elarn its enchantment 08:16 *arn 08:16 wow 08:16 *learn 08:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3176 08:20 if you rlelay wnat to sepak lkie you cna't sepll it's azamnig how you can sitll be udnostod if you hvae the frist and lsat ltetres in the rgiht sopts. ;-) 08:21 Got it about learning the enchantment - nice touch! 08:22 :) 08:23 the biggest change is with the ascension run 08:23 i'll explain it all in the upcoming reddit post, i dont wanna retype everything a bunch of times :P 08:25 i think you f'd something up k2, i'm on turn 8k and i still don't have gauntlets of purity 08:25 Skill issue. 08:26 heh 08:26 dbanethacker there are some new artifacts in the game that you can obtain via forging two existing regular artifacts together 08:26 is there an option to toggle rename old-text buffer? 08:26 i think so? 08:26 i thought i loved it for the first 10 minutes and now i am falling out of love 08:27 my fingers can't unlearn the empty buffer 08:27 Wonderful! Like making an Eye of Aeth... attached to a helm of something and making a helmet with the Eye, something like that, perhaps? 08:27 For example, you can meld a pair of gauntlets of power and a pair of boots of speed to make an item that makes you fast, strong, and unable to stand up 08:27 no, not that sexy 08:28 LOL Pinkbeast !!! 08:28 :) 08:29 cbus or qt is there an rc cfg command to suppress DEDIT_GETLIN if its enabled? 08:29 nope 08:29 hrm 08:29 there should be but there isnt 08:30 krm26, you will learn and then hate playing without 08:30 dbanethacker, an example artifact recipe - forge trollsbane and ogresmasher together 08:30 see what you get :P 08:30 Wilco when I have them ! 08:30 I used to hate DEDIT_GETLIN but once I got used to it I had a hard time with TNNT 08:31 Hmmm, maybe I can create that axe that's Mojo's cousin, somehow perhaps? It was in the last Avengers movie and the Love and Thunder one, IIRC. 08:31 trogresbaner 08:31 i'm too old to learn things, my brain is rock 08:31 That's not in this unfortunately. 08:32 0.8.2? Heh, heh... 08:32 krm26, I am old too :D 08:32 maybe not "old-old" but I am not young 08:32 my father in law still like to refer to me as being too young for 08:32 and i'm like 'bitch, when you were 50 did you think of yourself as young?' 08:33 If you call your character Ripley you can duct tape all _kinds_ of weapons together 08:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:33 Pinkbeast hah 08:36 alright, gonna start on a draft of this release post while its still kinda slow here at work 08:36 krm26, ctrl+u is your friend with DEDIT_GETLIN 08:38 Oh this Mines map fucking SUCKS 08:40 Hmmm, I was able to use a blessed dagger and half a long worm and its halves a total of 6 times before they were all dead ! Hmmm - how full is the moon? 08:41 !pom 08:41 K2: The moon is at last quarter; new moon in 7 days. 08:45 #moon - doesn't work, dang. 08:45 it'd be a neat function to have it say where it is in its current movement, perhaps? 08:46 that would be spammy. best to let people here initiate it if they need the info 08:49 do giants start with the aggravate monster intrinsic? 08:50 yeah i think so 08:50 Correct, always have 08:50 Most sources of stealth don't work for them either, if they even fit 08:50 You can still get it from your god, though 08:50 ok, because: "You feel that eating the dog was a bad idea." 08:51 but all that does is give you aggravate monster 08:51 so not really a bad idea :-) 08:51 still a jerk move >:( 08:51 well, infidel... 08:53 those are practical jerks 08:54 though moloch wouldn't really care one way or the other granted 08:58 Also giants can't wear mummy wrap like in vanilla 08:58 0/10 unplayable 09:02 hmmm 09:02 I still don't see how a giant can't wind a mummy wrap around itself like anyone else 09:03 I thought evilhack was going to allow that? 09:03 it's not a cloak that requires a certain neck diameter 09:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) polymorphed her first item, on T:4296 09:04 mobileuser, when evilhack is on 3.7 base 09:04 in the meantime, uninvis yourself with a cursed wand of invis 09:04 Invisible customers are not welcome! Neither are disembodied floating bandages. 09:05 the union of possessed armor beings would like a word 09:06 Oh I'm not invisible, I just feel like that'dve been logical 09:06 I just think it wouldn't cover very much of a mummy 09:08 When I was a student the university fantasy literature society had 12 foot orange scarves. Two Jomsvikings tried coming to their annual dinner (black tie or fancy dress) wearing only the scarves, which owing to the dimensions of the people involved produced in one case an orange dress and in the other a pleasing "well, all the naughty bits got covered" effect 09:08 be nice if there was a shop above dl10 09:09 guess I'm camping for a pick-axe instead 09:09 Or a wand of digging maybe 09:09 potion "this tastes rotten" hmmm 09:10 cursed fruit juice 09:10 Sickness would auto-ID on you iirc 09:10 ah, or see invis I guess 09:11 Mhm 09:12 At least there's a pick-axe user on the floor I'm trying to access 09:13 generation was dogshit, can't even follow the water to land or something 09:13 normally I wouldn't quaff test potions of unknown BUC but I'm hoping for restore ability 09:14 What happened? 09:14 stupidly ate a kobold forgetting I'm not playing healer anymore :-) 09:15 Ah RIP 09:17 and evilhack does not restore lost statpoints using unihorns? 09:17 never has done I think 09:18 Nope 09:18 making potions of restore ability great again 09:19 and making that spellbook one of the best 09:20 pots could always restore lost levels, which you may or may not need after a Vladding 09:21 anyway, to Minetown for 2 rounds of protection 09:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11678 09:26 bleh, found nabru bones and I don't have a blessed weapon yet 09:26 gotta settle for this Goblin King bone staff 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9591 09:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:11965 09:35 The GK bone staff as a good weapon? Ouch! 09:35 I mean it's 09:35 fine, just more tedium than anything 09:36 The ghost isn't a threat I just want it off the pile and then not have to deal with it 09:38 Hmm. 09:38 !lastgame nabbi 09:38 Umbire: No last game for nabbi. 09:38 !lastgame nabru 09:38 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1671105542.evil.html 09:38 uh oh, bag of holding. 09:39 empty, but might be cursed so I can't transfer my shit yet 09:42 Whee, uncursed with the fountain 09:42 You can't do bag to bag tipping here yet, right? 09:44 I'm noticing a lot more rooms with water and lava in them. It makes EH more dangerous - very nice touches in the new version! 09:45 https://redd.it/zmmllm 09:45 well evilhack has paranoid_swim so how do rooms with them make it more dangerous? 09:45 ^ evilhack release post 09:45 haha I stole your evilhack release post 09:46 evilhack 0.9.0 - exclusively about paranoid_swim 09:46 heh 09:46 rofl someone downvoted it already 09:47 Umbire I think I've done bag-to-bag tipping... 09:47 when I got the superbag in an earlier game 09:47 probably amy 09:47 yeah 09:48 the first vote was a downvote, so it shows 0 09:49 why does the exit to purgatory dump you in sokoban? 09:49 is there some thematic reason I'm not seeing? 09:50 it should dump you in the quest, but I think K2 had a problem there 09:50 ^ that 09:51 which sucks a bit for infidels :-) 09:51 just have to go a few levels, its not far 09:52 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 623 points, T:1348, killed by a bugbear 10:01 Oh right, all fruit on a bones level have that old file's name. 10:08 Where's the release post? 10:09 Scrollback. 10:09 or just go to reddit 10:12 Thanks, I found it at Reddit 10:36 huh... maybe the portal exit from purgatory should have dropped you off in the castle instead. or medusa level. hmm 10:37 i hate this 2nd guessing myself right after a release hahaha 10:37 ah well, roll with it 10:39 upvoted your reddit post :) 10:39 looking forward to see the lucifer fight 10:40 thanks lol 10:41 i normally dont care about upvotes, but with the very first vote being a downvote, that could hide it i think? dumb 10:41 haters gonna hate 10:42 Centaurs can now play as Infidels. 10:42 is the race on? :D 10:42 giddy up 10:42 -!- nabbi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:48 Hm, think I found an oilskin bag blocked off by a mines river 10:48 Funny that 10:48 I've literally formally ID'd every other bag too so I'm 100% on this 10:49 hah here's one i should have mentioned in the reddit post: Wielding Vorpal Blade protects against decapitation attacks 11:04 K2: Order doesn't matter for artiforging, right? 11:05 for things like enchantment, BUC, it does 11:05 otherwise no 11:08 It's funny, I'd been doing some stuff that mentioned Glamdring before you came up with the idea 11:11 i think that artifact is in other variants 11:11 its a popular lotr weapon 11:12 I'm not sure, haven't looked though 11:12 glamdring is gandalfs sword 11:13 I know of it, yeah 11:13 From looking up stuff for Orcrist 11:13 K2: Only six recipes, right? 11:13 Just looking at your release note now so I can upvote it, and WHAT, a 2nd goblintown level? 11:13 I must have missed it 11:13 Glamdring, Ashmar, Sword of Anni, Archmagi Staff, GoPur and... 11:13 Or do you mean another layout? 11:13 Shadowblade, right 11:13 That all of 'em? 11:14 6 recipes yeah 11:16 wtf spoilers 11:17 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:18 Umbire your latest wiki edit has some errors. 2 of the 6 forged artifacts are armor, you refer to them all as artifact weapons 11:19 Easy fix 11:27 K2: Iron stuff for elves is replaced with copper right? 11:27 Or was that xnh specific, I can't recall 11:27 k2, is there like a portal or stair somewhere in goblintown now that i missed? 11:27 Umbire that's xnh specific 11:27 krm26 no, neither 11:28 how did bilbo find himself in gollums cave? 11:28 K2: Ah, then do you use steel instead? 11:28 ok 11:28 Umbire no, elven weapons are still their default wood material just like from vanilla 11:29 they *can be* copper, or mithril, etc 11:29 I'm talking about starting weapons 11:29 wood 11:29 elven priests' mace, etc. 11:29 thats a special case 11:29 copper 11:29 And elven knights' stuff? 11:30 Been a while since I played one, so can't recall 11:30 I know they get the elven long sword, forget about what's done for lances though 11:30 lance had its base material changed to steel i think 11:30 METAL 11:31 right, so steel then :P 11:32 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:34 Just wanted to cover bases, thank you 11:34 been working on racial equipment articles lately 11:38 cool 11:40 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:51 going to deal with Kas now and need to get my strat straight. Going to push the boulder over, paralyse, hit with Kas's sword, paralyse again if he wakes... I have no means of escape if I do this so it better work 11:54 good luck 11:55 Best of luck 11:57 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Racial_equipment#EvilHack 11:57 I should do up tables like in the main section 11:58 yeah 12:12 I made a nice little spot for him to get adjacent to me and he won't come over :( 12:14 taunt him 12:15 cast doubt on his lich-hood 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:85347 12:15 'no way viagra is gonna help you now, Vecna!' 12:15 congrats! \o/ 12:16 Good work 12:16 whew, thanks for the cheerleading 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:85377 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2102 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches, on T:85378 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:85379 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful shimmering dragon, on T:85791 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Mitra, on T:14030 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 17880 points, T:14150, killed by a leocrotta 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] pegasuswhisper (Wiz Trt Fem Neu), 14 points, T:346, killed by a boiling potion 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4590 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 887 points, T:2274, killed by a giant mosquito 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 9842 points, T:5215, killed by a goblin-captain called Zogz of Akhuza 13:01 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 13:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3512 13:25 -!- K2 changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.1 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/zmmllm 13:32 Grats on the release K2! 13:33 thanks hackemslashem, and thank you for finding some evilhack bugs 13:34 darn it, i killed myself senselessly just after promising myself no more than one game a day :-) 13:35 gratz on the release mobileuser! 13:37 amateurhour, congratz on the release (from prison)! 13:39 nice to see I'm not the only one that equates work to prison :) 13:41 :P 13:41 i am home early. had to pick up mini-me, she has a headache from butting heads yesterday, getting a bit worse. school nurse said to send her home, get rest 13:41 no sign of a concussion 13:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:42 rip gnolls witherling 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3008 13:46 food time, bbl 13:47 later 13:57 "You have become quite familiar with your crystal broad short sword." 13:57 heheh 13:57 loving it 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 85922 points, T:14625, petrified by a beholder 14:03 oof 14:04 "an empty dragonhide bag" and I think this has to be holding... 14:05 got the terrible zoo version of mine town, let's see if I survive this 14:05 !lastgame dbanethacker 14:05 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1671087041.evil.html 14:05 K2: did you fix gnolls witherling yet 14:06 no... is it broken? 14:06 Played with fire there 14:06 oh man he didnt know 14:06 !tell dbanethacker you need to blind yourself asap when meeting a beholder 14:06 No worries, mobileuser, I've got this! 14:07 blindfold right there in inventory 14:07 Took it off right at the top of the livelog so 14:07 Prob. didn't think that through 14:10 uh how does this sequence work 14:10 The beholder's gaze makes you very sleepy... You meet the beholder's petrifying gaze! Your limbs are stiffening. You wake up. 14:10 how do you meet the beholder's petrifying gaze while asleep 14:10 can medusa stone you while you're asleep too? 14:10 good question 14:11 the player character doesn't have eyelids it is kind of tragic actually :( 14:11 we're all fish 14:11 if so i think it is a bug, I want to test that 14:11 cbus/K2: A quick attempt at trying to patch in the curses updates from 3.7 reveals it will be pretty difficult. I'll need some help on that front. 14:11 quick fix would be to make the sleep attack the last in the chain 14:12 hackemslashem, i looked at it, i dont think its worth the trouble 14:12 I concur 14:12 yeah its nice, but we've been getting by just fine without 14:12 I see function parameter changes and my brain hurts so... 14:13 ^ me all the time 14:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:18 medusa does still meet your gaze and stone you while you're asleep 14:18 hmmm 14:18 hmmmmm 14:18 HMMMM 14:19 ah, I was hoping it would be easy to implement 14:19 I will email the devteam about that I suppose 14:19 maybe Blind could check if ur asleep as well 14:19 then you'd get all the usual blind effects 14:20 idk if they will fix it. they don't seem to be interested in the fact that you can still respond to nymphs and succubi to take off your clothes etc while you're asleep 14:20 or at least I opened a PR a month ago or so and they haven't acknowledged it at all, but have accepted later PRs 14:20 this seems kind of similar to that 14:20 amateurhour: but then you wouldn't be able to see what has killed you as you sleep right? 14:21 sure, that would make sense? 14:21 unless you woke up from the combat right as you died 14:21 I guess that wouldn't matter so much, but it's sort of nice to be able to see all the monsters gang up on you 14:21 or sort of fun I guess I mean, even though it has no actual gameplay effect 14:21 do dumplogs show it? 14:21 do they show the monsters that have killed you while you're asleep? 14:21 do they show the map as though you're not blind 14:22 if you're blind and die, do they show the map as though you're not blind? I don't think so, no 14:22 btw the reason vanilla has ignored those PRs is because bhaak is twirling his moustache and plotting to make unnethack superior to vanilla 14:22 this is canon 14:23 learn the lore smh 14:23 I guess making sleep blinding would also mean all the messages like "You dream a sexy imp kisses your forehead", etc, become "You dream it kisses your forehead" 14:24 unless you have telepathy I suppose? 14:24 though I suppose you might be able to go through one by one and change them to ignore blindness somehow if you are asleep 14:24 are you imagining that when you're asleep your eyes are still open 14:25 but unfocused on anything 14:25 so you can't look medusa in the eye? 14:25 Livelog treats it as though you're not blind, but map is displayed as though you're blind 14:25 map in dumplog* 14:25 no? i'm imagining your eyes are closed 14:25 SLASH'EM and its relatives do that thing where livelogs won't "leak" info if you die while blind 14:25 what's the difference between that and blindness? :S 14:26 because making sleep actually cause a blindness status effects seems like it would have some annoying effects on UX that don't really improve anything even if they are more "realistic" 14:26