00:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of magic resistance", on T:21155
01:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30302
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02:35 <hackemslashem2> !tell K2: Thanks for the mmake_wish fixes!
02:35 <Hecubus> I'm on it, hackemslashem2.
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06:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 26012 points, T:10254, suffocated by a gelatinous cube
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08:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3130
08:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:3434
09:17 <K2> \o/
09:17 <Hecubus> K2: Message from hackemslashem2 at 2022-11-30 02:35 EST: Thanks for the mmake_wish fixes!
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09:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12100 points, T:4504, burned by molten lava
10:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 226 points, T:371, killed by a giant mimic
11:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu), 797 points, T:2067, killed by a giant mosquito
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12:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of bone gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1079
13:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2006
13:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 745 points, T:1383, killed by a bugbear
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class R), on T:32341
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13:54 <K2> hackemslashem
13:55 <K2> ^ casts 'summon hackemslashem' spell
14:03 <hackemslashem> ello?
14:06 <K2> heya
14:07 <K2> so i think the only issues you have open with hackem that pertain to evilhack are #'s 9, 15, and 19
14:07 <K2> (that I am aware of)
14:08 <hackemslashem> 19 really sucks, I've tried a lot of stuff to suss it out
14:08 <hackemslashem> Without rr I'm fumbling in the dark
14:10 <hackemslashem> It pops up the most for me right now too...
14:11 <K2> :/
14:11 <amateurhour> what was the reason you can't use rr?
14:11 <hackemslashem> 91 is also an evil issue
14:12 <hackemslashem> Dunno, tried a few different ways of installing
14:13 <hackemslashem> K2: With 91, you will notice the effects with Nazgul on their fell beast - there is a call to canseemon and it affects how their scream attack works.
14:15 <K2> ooh right
14:15 <K2> thanks
14:17 <botifico-3f2b6d9> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/5329bf2330d6...0edfa0706c19
14:17 <botifico-3f2b6d9> [EvilHack] k21971 0edfa07 - Fix: wishing for a helm of telepathy / gauntlets of fumbling.
14:21 <K2> ok so issue #91
14:22 <K2> nazgul will always be invisible now, because they all spawn with a ring of invisiblity. and intelligent monsters will wear those
14:22 <K2> so when a nazgul spawns, it's going to automatically put it on
14:23 <K2> maybe it shouldnt
14:23 <K2> but, still need to address the 'seeing the nazgul' bit
14:23 <K2> you shouldnt need to be able to see it for it to scream at you
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14:25 <K2> heya stenno
14:25 <stenno> K2: i don't want to re-open the issue
14:25 <stenno> hi
14:25 <Hecubus> Hello stenno, Welcome to #evilhack
14:25 <K2> then dont :)
14:25 <K2> there's an implied 'but' there?
14:26 <stenno> yes there was
14:26 <stenno> but i just figured that that is not a problem
14:26 <K2> whats wrong?
14:26 <K2> i tested that fix before i committed, seemed to do the job
14:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:37546
14:27 <stenno> i was going to mention 'ring of hunger' but as hackemslashem already said on reddit that you cannot wish for magic items with properties
14:27 <K2> correct
14:27 <K2> in grunthack you can
14:27 <K2> so it might be an issue there
14:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4549
14:27 <stenno> so you really went with the readobjnam change, thats brave
14:27 <stenno> that function is nasty as fuck
14:27 <K2> there was already one in there for 'fire' and scroll of fire
14:28 <stenno> right, i saw that
14:28 <stenno> just a newline in the pr
14:28 <K2> i was like 'oh, ok... <steal>'
14:28 <stenno> :D
14:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:5687
14:28 <K2> yeah i hate objnam.c
14:28 <K2> its better in 3.7
14:28 <K2> but its still evil
14:28 <stenno> wonder if there would be a sensible alternative
14:28 <K2> probably
14:28 <K2> some of that is grunthack code
14:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4275 points, T:5695, killed by a pit fiend
14:28 <K2> so yeah definitely
14:28 <stenno> also i first assumed that you would fix it by removing the 'helm of telepathy' item
14:29 <K2> oh no, was never going to do that
14:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7544
14:29 <stenno> what good is it when you also have the property?
14:29 <K2> i initially was going to see about renaming 'telepathy' for that property to something else, or just cut it out so it was just ESP
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14:30 <K2> well... you could make the same argument with other things. why have fire brand when you could have <weapon> of fire?
14:30 <amateurhour> artifacts aren't the same
14:30 <K2> close enough for arguments sake
14:31 <K2> plus there will be new players that expect objects like a helm of telepathy
14:31 <K2> doesnt hurt to keep them in
14:31 <stenno> mm
14:31 <amateurhour> like you could have a range of mundane gloves, gauntlets, etc, and have a range of properties like dexterity and strength 
14:31 <amateurhour> needs a variant brave enough to do it
14:31 <amateurhour> a variant that's not afraid of changing the status quo and being epic
14:32 <stenno> :D
14:32 <K2> like evilhack
14:32 <K2> got it
14:32 <stenno> o7
14:32 <K2> got epic covered, wooo
14:32 <K2> heh i miss the o7
14:32 <K2> i only ever see stenno use it
14:33 <stenno> its like saluting 
14:33 <K2> yeah
14:33 <K2> sir, yes sir!
14:33 <K2> o7
14:33 <stenno> randarts in evilhack when
14:34 <K2> heh
14:34 <K2> that's kinda what obj properties are?
14:34 <K2> just not as... much?
14:34 <stenno> yeah its already quite similar
14:35 <K2> i'm going to add artifact forging too
14:35 <hackemslashem> Really? madman
14:35 <stenno> that would be so awesome
14:35 <K2> you can already forge a bunch of different normal objects
14:35 <stenno> i guess a randart would have a funky autogenerated name like the orctown orcs
14:35 <K2> taking two existing artifacts and forging a completely new artifact that can only exist via forging is next step
14:36 <stenno> and player names from xlog
14:36 <K2> 'mobileusers Dirty Dish of Excellence and Wonderment'
14:36 <stenno> yes!
14:36 <K2> lol
14:37 <amateurhour> there had better be the possibility of an oilskin cloth elven helm called le chapeau de mobi leuser
14:37 <K2> stenno where you been? its been a long while
14:37 <stenno> hmm i wonder
14:37 <K2> barbados on a beach?
14:37 <amateurhour> stenno if you don't know where you were then noone knows, you were with you 100% of the time 
14:37 <stenno> kinda just closed weechat and discord at some point and never really bothered to open it again lol
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14:38 <K2> ah
14:38 <stenno> thats true amateurhour 
14:38 <stenno> thats something granny weatherwax would say
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14:38 <stenno> anyway i am doing really fine, i hope y'all doing fine too
14:38 <K2> yeah!
14:39 <K2> good to see you again
14:39 <K2> hope you stick around for awhile
14:39 <stenno> might aswell, sure
14:39 <K2> hahah
14:39 <amateurhour> irl has been kinda slamming for me for past ages stenno so not been playing much and indeed didn't play at all this tnnt
14:39 <K2> 'eh, might as well...'
14:39 <K2> how's attie?
14:39 <stenno> find more evilhack bugs to annoy you
14:39 <amateurhour> kinda miss when we were competitive af last year or whenever it was
14:40 <stenno> 'slamming' means 'busy'?
14:40 <amateurhour> yeah
14:40 <stenno> well being busy sounds good
14:40 <K2> amateurhour, last couple years was kinda hard to be competetive when you had luxidream knocking out 3 yrs worth of asc in 2 days
14:40 <stenno> K2: attie is just fine i'd say, it seems they have a lot of work 
14:40 <K2> cool
14:40 <amateurhour> haha it was 2020 I was thinking of, me and stenno kept leapfrogging over eachother in player rankings
14:40 <amateurhour> then someone took my most conducts trophy and it was gg
14:41 <K2> yeah 2020 had a shit ton of games played
14:41 <stenno> ooh right i remember that
14:41 <stenno> i had an insane number of ascs that year
14:41 <amateurhour> yeah, 14!
14:41 <K2> https://hardfought.org/tnnt/archives/2020/players.html
14:41 <stenno> ah right, HEY!MOONA clan
14:41 <amateurhour> you changed your irc nick to something hilarious like stenno\number2inTNNT
14:41 <amateurhour> hahaha
14:42 <stenno> :D
14:42 <K2> i remember clan 💩
14:42 <stenno> yes
14:42 <stenno> i opened this one https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/issues/33 but it didn't get considered yet
14:42 <bouquet> will a blessed scroll of magic detection identify all the gear in ludios that has a magic property even before I lay eyes on it? Or should I make a big pile and cast it?
14:43 <K2> ah yeah
14:43 <K2> i think that was moved to 'look at for next year'
14:43 <stenno> fair lol
14:43 <stenno> i mean it wont be an issue until next year so
14:43 <K2> damn amateurhour, you had 9 wins that year
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14:44 <K2> stenno: right
14:44 <amateurhour> 👁️👄👁️👍
14:44 <K2> bouquet yes
14:44 <stenno> best clan name tho fr
14:44 <amateurhour> tRUE
14:44 <stenno> 64 ascs man is just unreal
14:45 <stenno> true zipcode numbers
14:45 <Umbire> Oh, hey stenno, we thought you were dead.
14:45 <K2> i netted 11 this month (most i've ever done in a single month) and I got burnt out
14:45 <Umbire> (No but really, you've been away a while.)
14:45 <stenno> wow nice!
14:45 <K2> thanks!
14:45 <amateurhour> lol I misread that for a second
14:46 <stenno> i aten't dead
14:46 <K2> 'I feel happy...'
14:46 <stenno> already the second discworld refernce
14:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1819
14:49 <stenno> amateurhour: i see now what you misread lol
14:52 <amateurhour> haha
14:53 <stenno> found the weatherwax quote:
14:53 <stenno> Esme turned, and a billion figures turned with her. 'When can I get out?' WHEN YOU FIND THE ONE THAT'S REAL. 'Is this a trick question?' NO. Granny looked down at herself. 'This one,' she said.
14:54 <stenno> (she is in a mirror labyrinth there)
14:55 <K2> smart
14:56 <stenno> i have been totally enthralled by crusader kings 3 
14:56 <stenno> wonder if i might focus on nethack again at some point
14:57 <stenno> not 100% feeling it right now
14:57 <Umbire> whenever you're ready, I'm just glad you're doin' alright and coming around more
14:58 <stenno> yeah i will try
14:58 <K2> i'm watching the trailer
14:58 <K2> everyone is huge!
14:58 <K2> lie, bigger than mountains
14:58 <K2> *like
14:59 <stenno> its a map game
14:59 <stenno> if the people were to scale
14:59 <K2> yeah :)
15:00 <stenno> its the coolest most stupid game in the world
15:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9889
15:04 <K2> hackemslashem, this statement 'This affects things like the nazgul's scream, which depends on the player seeing the nazgul.' is false. it depends on the nazgul being able to see you
15:04 <K2> i do see a minor issue with a certain type of feedback, but not with actual scream attack function
15:05 <K2> still looking in case i am missing something
15:06 <stenno> monster LOS is super strange (at least in vanilla)
15:06 <stenno> for example, regarding eoto:
15:06 <stenno> Because Nethack assumes line-of-sight is symmetrical—that is, if you have a clear line of sight to a monster, it can see you too—monsters are capable of using gaze attacks through walls and other obstructions if they are within a three-tile radius while you are wearing the Eyes
15:06 <stenno> which is kinda insane if you think about it
15:06 <K2> the 'bug' in sporkhack, was that a nazgul didnt have to be able to see you to use its cream attack. it could be all the way across the map and scream stun you
15:07 <hackemslashem> K2: Ah ok, I didn't look at it before responding, but I thought there could be implications for other riders
15:07 <stenno> cream attack
15:07 <K2> *scream
15:07 <hackemslashem> cream attack!
15:07 <K2> hahahah
15:07 <hackemslashem> Splat
15:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 20864 points, T:10946, quit
15:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2930 points, T:2632, killed by a warg
15:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:41483
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15:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1789
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16:59 <qt> cream attack lol
17:00 <qt> oh hi stenno I haven't seen you in a while :)
17:00 <stenno> ohai
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17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:49471
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17:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1612 points, T:1346, quit
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17:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 speed boots", on T:51682
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18:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2110
18:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:53615
18:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53619
18:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:54183
18:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:6215
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19:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:55457
19:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:56159
19:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2383 points, T:7388, killed by Juiblex
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20:32 <botifico-3f2b6d9> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0edfa0706c19...3f639ae1eef0
20:32 <botifico-3f2b6d9> [EvilHack] k21971 3f639ae - Fix: minor feedback issues with Nazgul's scream attack.
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20:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed mightyquinn the elf zombie, and former Rhizotomist, on T:3574
20:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4270
21:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:8387
21:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Loggers' ghost, the former Initiate, on T:9494
21:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Sam Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire mage, on T:6530
22:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a large shield entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:10976
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22:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:12278
23:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:61087
23:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:61112