00:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9641
00:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Victoria (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 3198 points, T:3748, killed by the Goblin King
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04:02 <hackemslashem> hi
04:02 <Hecubus> Hello hackemslashem, Welcome to #evilhack
04:02 <hackemslashem> Looking at backscroll.
04:02 <hackemslashem> cbus: Z/M are the same :)
04:03 <hackemslashem> I think if you know that zombies are not-nice and take a tactical approach to them, they aren't as bad.
04:04 <hackemslashem> But, you can still autorun into them and get your brain eaten. 
04:05 <hackemslashem> cbus: I also fixed the auto-kick, it turns out my initial reason for changing wizmap was flawed. My terminal was actually PASTING info in with ^V! 
04:06 <cbus> hackemslashem, mightve found another unintentional change yesterday
04:06 <cbus> I had a hobbit spawn with a sling and 10 touchstones
04:06 <hackemslashem> LOL 
04:06 <cbus> I think it shouldve been flint
04:06 <hackemslashem> What a gemologist
04:06 <cbus> yeah gave a good chuckle :)
04:07 <hackemslashem> This is the problem with adding stuff in the wrong place - a LOT of things depend on the order, and if you add to the front or back, it messes up code in faraway places
04:07 <cbus> I guess thats why I am here, to test and find things :P
04:07 <hackemslashem> Much appreciated! :)
04:07 <hackemslashem> Yesterday I finished the first draft of the artifact lookup, def give it a look with any artifacts you pick up
04:08 <cbus> will do
04:08 <hackemslashem> I'm sure I missed some stuff, but it works for anything in your inventory - you can't lookup arts you don't have yet, still working on that
04:08 <hackemslashem> And fixed the whetstone thingy along with a bunch of small things last night. 
04:09 <cbus> sweet gj
04:09 <Umbire> Always thought that way about zombies - I sympathize with people thinking they're too brutal for early game and don't even entirely disagree
04:09 <cbus> and I finished an anxiety filled Mon yesterday for TNNT :P
04:10 <hackemslashem> haha nice
04:10 <cbus> the way they work now you kinda have to save a prayer
04:10 <Umbire> But coming in tactical-minded solves a chunk of it, a lot of my remaining gripes are odds-based among other things
04:10 <cbus> in case you get termill
04:10 <hackemslashem> Priority #1 in evilhack: Get a helmet
04:10 <Umbire> To be fair, you have an early forge in Goblin King
04:10 <cbus> and they dont seem to have the zombienastiness vs pets too
04:10 <Umbire> also wdym, I lose tons of pets that way
04:11 <cbus> they give termill to pets?
04:11 <Umbire> Yes?
04:11 <hackemslashem> yea
04:11 <cbus> oh they do ;D
04:11 <Umbire> It's down to how available kiting is for you at the onset
04:12 <hackemslashem> Undead slayers are for you if you don't like zombies ;)
04:17 <cbus> necromancers too I guess
04:17 <cbus> :D
04:19 <hackemslashem> Oh yea. But slayers ALWAYS hit like a blessed weapon now, and they occasionally dismember zombies for you 
04:20 <hackemslashem> Hmm, I'm meaning to say, slayers get a +d4 bonus that also stacks with blessed damage if that makes sense?
04:21 <cbus> ahh
04:21 <cbus> yeah
04:21 <cbus> I didnt know the details of them tbh
04:21 <cbus> also what roles can vampires play?
04:21 <hackemslashem> ofc, it's my job to explain lol
04:21 <cbus> not sure this is something you want to do but in dcss you can select a race and then select a role
04:21 <cbus> "reverse selection"
04:21 <cbus> at least it used to be like that before they allowed almost all races on all roles
04:22 <hackemslashem> press / at the character selection screen
04:22 <cbus> how do you get that selection menu you had on the video btw?
04:22 <hackemslashem>  / - Pick race first
04:22 <hackemslashem>  " - Pick gender first
04:22 <hackemslashem>  [ - Pick alignment first
04:22 <hackemslashem>  ~ - Set role/race/&c filtering
04:22 <cbus> I dont get that
04:22 <cbus> I only get Shall I pick for you?
04:22 <cbus> also you missed the Evilhack ascii logo
04:22 <cbus> in the start :P
04:23 <cbus> Shall I pick a female character's race, role and alignment for you? [ynaq] (y)
04:23 <cbus> if I select no I get a list of roles
04:23 <cbus> then a list of races
04:23 <hackemslashem> Press >
04:23 <cbus> no confirmation
04:23 <hackemslashem> To get to the next screen...
04:23 <cbus> > or / does nothing
04:23 <hackemslashem> I think I added 5 roles and there is no indication of a next screen?
04:24 <cbus> will upload a pic sec
04:24 <hackemslashem> Hmm, mine says (1 of 2), this is weird
04:24 <cbus> https://imgur.com/a/vuWkUCp
04:25 <hackemslashem> Ah, is that curses?
04:25 <cbus> yeah
04:25 <hackemslashem> Must be, hmmmmmmmm
04:25 <cbus> yeah works when disabling
04:25 * hackemslashem calls in a curses expert
04:25 <cbus> #OPTIONS=windowtype:curses
04:25 <cbus> #OPTIONS=align_message:bottom
04:25 <cbus> #OPTIONS=align_status:bottom
04:25 <cbus> #OPTIONS=perm_invent
04:25 <cbus> fixes it 
04:26 * hackemslashem kicks this issue back up to EvilHack
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06:56 <cbus> hackemslashem, did you see the evilhack logo thing? :)
06:57 <amateurhour> evilhack is getting rewritten in Logo? 
06:58 <amateurhour> full support
06:58 <cbus> wait I will screenshot :)
06:58 <cbus> https://imgur.com/a/jawjZU7
06:58 <cbus> evilhack ascii logo in hackem :P
06:58 <cbus> one that you dont find by grepping (I guess thats why it was missed)
06:58 <cbus> *thinks like a dev* :P
06:59 <amateurhour> oh shame I was hoping for a windowport using turtle graphics exclusively
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07:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4566
07:43 <hackemslashem> HackEM is EvilHack confirmed
07:43 <hackemslashem> curses curses!
07:44 <hackemslashem> I have a logo in the changelog, but we could do a little better
07:49 <amateurhour> we can do better: a changelog in the logo!
07:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5728
08:10 <hackemslashem> Finally found where that logo is
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08:12 <K2> i remember years ago being told the same thing
08:12 <hackemslashem> Ooh, fire https://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=display&f=Fire%20Font-k&t=HackEM
08:12 <K2> 'hey when i start a new game in curses mode it says nethack'
08:12 <hackemslashem> lol, always something!
08:12 <K2> it never ends
08:12 <K2> is it HackEM or Hack'EM ?
08:13 <hackemslashem> Uhh
08:13 <K2> see? never ends :)
08:13 <hackemslashem> Is it EvilHack or EvilYacc?
08:13 <K2> EvilCrack
08:14 <K2> its evil, but like crack, cant put it down
08:14 <hackemslashem> Hey I found the exact one you did: https://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=display&f=Slant&t=EvilHack
08:15 <K2> hah
08:16 <hackemslashem> I can't tell if it's SLASH'EM or Slash'EM, but SlashTHEM seems to be SlashTHEM. So maybe Hack'EM is really HACKEM
08:17 <hackemslashem> HACKEM MUCHE
08:19 <K2> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/SLASH%27EM
08:19 <K2> it's spelt both ways
08:19 <K2> SLASH'EM or Slash'EM
08:19 <K2> i go with the latter
08:21 <amateurhour> i say slashem because i cba capitalising things most of the time
08:22 <amateurhour> but there's a file called slamfaq.txt in the repo so canonically I think it's slam
08:22 <amateurhour> which would make hackem ham
08:23 <amateurhour> that's canon now
08:23 <hackemslashem> HAM
08:24 <hackemslashem> What do you think of the tiny apostrophe? https://pastebin.com/XHPjxGUZ
08:25 <amateurhour> I wanna know what's up those stairs
08:25 <hackemslashem> certain death
08:29 <K2> hackemslashem, like
08:38 <cbus> cool logo generator
08:39 <cbus> nice to find out why curses disabled that fancy char picker, always wondered why
08:40 <hackemslashem> cbus, you are certain the hobbit had 10 touchstones? not sling bullets?
08:41 <cbus> 100%
08:41 <cbus> it happened again during lunch break
08:41 <cbus> :P
08:41 <cbus> I noticed your rub fix too
08:42 <cbus> and happened now again too
08:42 <cbus> I just wiztested and ^G to spawn hobbitses
08:43 <cbus> should only take a few hobbitses until you get one with a sling and gray stones
08:44 <cbus> ohhh sorry it wasnt touchstones
08:44 <cbus> it was flint stones that "scritch, scritch"
08:44 <hackemslashem> :P
08:44 * hackemslashem throws a flintstone at cbus
08:45 <cbus> which makes me thing the rubbing part is bugged rather than generation :)
08:46 <hackemslashem> That is very possible
08:46 <hackemslashem> Only touchstones go scritch right?
08:46 <cbus> yeah
08:46 <cbus> at least in vanilla
08:47 <cbus> flint stones autoid when rubbed in evilhack if I recall correctly
08:47 <cbus> You strike a few sparks from the flint stone!  Purrminator turns to flee. (this is from evilhack rubbing a flint stone with a mace)
08:49 <hackemslashem> Oh cool, I like that
08:49 <hackemslashem> I thought only caveppl could make sparks
08:50 <Umbire> Cavefolk start with the flint stones for it
08:51 <Umbire> Anyone can make sparks, though
08:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 1306 points, T:7816, killed by a wand
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09:26 <aosdict> hackemslashem: how long until someone forks hackem and makes a variant called "hackem muche" that is to hackem as slex is to slashem
09:26 <aosdict> actually no, as slashem is to vanilla
09:27 <K2> HackTHEM(up)
09:37 <hackemslashem> Sorry I've already filed the patent on that
09:41 <cbus> EvilHackEM
09:42 <hackemslashem> Somebody goes through and undoes all the evil changes I did lol
09:50 <amateurhour> hackem reduced, hamr for short but everyone calls it hammer
09:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:61901
10:23 <aosdict> we have reduced the hackem but increased the amount of mjollnirs
10:29 <K2> unplayable
10:29 <K2> too many mjollnirs
10:30 <amateurhour> you get a mjolnir! and you get a mjolnir! and you get a mjolnir!! everybody gets a mjolnir!!
10:31 <K2> \o/
10:38 <hackemslashem> I'll take gungnir for $100 alex
10:48 <amateurhour> in dnh valks can turn any spear-like weapon into gungnir
10:48 <amateurhour> are there other variants with gungnir?
10:49 <amateurhour> oh splicehack
10:50 <cbus> can any lawful get excal in hackem? :)
10:50 <cbus> I noticed longswords can completely rust away in wizmode now :P
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12:18 <hackemslashem> cbus: No, excal just for knights. 
12:18 <hackemslashem> Valk can get gungnir like in dnh though
12:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 815 points, T:1380, killed by a small mimic
12:21 <hackemslashem> Well, you get excal if you get crowned though too
12:21 <hackemslashem> So technically any lawful CAN get it
12:25 <hackemslashem> cbus: I think I fixed gray stones now
12:25 <cbus> sweet
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13:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 110 points, T:1051, killed by the Goblin King
13:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 223 points, T:1998, killed by a hobgoblin
13:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 44 points, T:353, killed by a goblin
13:48 <cbus> nothing happens when you rub flint against a dagger any longer
13:48 <cbus> no message at all
13:48 <hackemslashem> aw nuts
13:48 <cbus> needed a break from my current TNNT game :P
13:48 <hackemslashem> this #$^&ing gray stone code 
13:48 <cbus> (got a healer finished with soko+mines)
13:48 <cbus> with GDSM + BoH + "oR
13:49 <cbus> apparently I am on a streak too (well this is game #2, didnt intend to streak the gno just finish "all roles") :P
13:49 <cbus> started pretty shitty with pet getting oneshotted by a hobbit (so mass killing hobbits in wizard mode was fun now)
13:49 <cbus> (I was gonna do gnome protection racket)
14:19 <K2> i am back at the role quest (priest)
14:20 <K2> died there a couple days ago, forgot 1 of the 2 priests in the huge graveyard is hostile, and i didnt have free action
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14:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:26171
14:38 <K2> stop killing yourself, stop killing yourself...
14:38 <K2> i WILL turn this car around and we will go home!
14:39 <dbanethacker> But we need to fit more clowns in the car !?!
14:39 <K2> hah
15:30 <dbanethacker> qq - I noticed that potions of restore ability don't seem to work in EH.  Can that be looked into, if you have a chance?  Or am I doing something wrong by quaffing it after something has brought down my (dex, strength, etc.) via a system-generated message, like you haven't been exercising so it took down my strength...
15:34 <hackemslashem> qq
15:37 <amateurhour> Q_Q
15:37 <hackemslashem> is it blessed or uncursed? 
15:38 <amateurhour> it doesn't look like it's changed from vanilla tbh
15:38 <hackemslashem> I'm a little surprised we don't have a diluted effect for restore ability
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15:41 <dbanethacker> It's regular, IIRC
15:42 <aosdict> does evilhack do the thing where an attribute loss due to abuse isn't restorable?
15:45 <K2> no
15:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2418
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16:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 6952 points, T:3933, killed by a giant priest of Ptah
17:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:30452
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17:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:13859
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18:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Blixie (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 718 points, T:2030, killed by a fall onto poison spikes
19:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:958
19:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] goast (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 632 points, T:1926, zombified by a gnome zombie
20:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:63678
20:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:63679
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20:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) refused to give up The Magic Mirror of Merlin to King Arthur, on T:64028
20:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed King Arthur, on T:64182
20:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15175
21:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:66486
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