00:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Con Ith Mal Cha), 1863 points, T:2621, quit
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00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2325
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01:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5219
01:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5360
01:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) performed his first genocide (locusts), on T:5972
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02:36 -!- osmium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.0 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/wakb2u ¤ 'gnolls witherling'
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05:59 * lacca[m] uploaded an image: (21KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/intelfx.name/zaAzcsRNUpcwRTCAocclqAHl/image.png >
05:59 <lacca[m]> hi guys, shiny shield is lit twice
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06:46 <hackemslashem> Thought that was fixed a while ago 
06:48 <mobileuser> maybe fixed in the next version?
06:49 <mobileuser> the current version probably doesn't have the fix merged
06:55 <amateurhour> it's both lit and lit 🔥👌💯
07:18 <hackemslashem> Check this patch out, it's the dungeon growth patch. https://pastebin.com/mTj2bjJj I thought it was only for trees to gradually spread but I see stuff for herbs to grow too. Kinda neat
07:18 <hackemslashem> I guess this never made it's way into vanilla?
07:19 <aosdict> my opinion of that has been "neat, but adding farming mechanics isn't probably a particularly good direction to take it"
07:20 <amateurhour> it's in slashthem and has a few bugs there
07:21 <amateurhour> there was one crash that we still don't really understand where water was somehow in a shop and moved an item then crashed in dungeon growths
07:21 <hackemslashem> aosdict: #define HERB_GROWTH_LIMIT    3 /* to limit excessive farming */
07:22 <hackemslashem> lol
07:23 <hackemslashem> I think with puddles being a thing, this could be fun. I'll have to look this over later though, not sure exactly how it works
07:23 <amateurhour> oh and didn't mobileuser get epically scammed by trees growing one time
07:23 <amateurhour> somehow a tree grew in the black market in unnethack or something
07:23 <amateurhour> and blocked the passage
07:23 <hackemslashem> haha, nice, pwned by a tree
07:23 <amateurhour> it was funny (for me not for mobi)
07:23 <amateurhour> :P
07:25 <mobileuser> I think it was in gehennom in a demon lair, not sure which variant... slashthem? splice?
07:26 <amateurhour> maybe it was someone else that got owned in the black market then
07:26 <amateurhour> there was a tree in that corridor on the length in the slashem version of black market
07:26 <amateurhour> on the left*
07:26 <mobileuser> right
07:27 <mobileuser> left, right
07:27 <amateurhour> :D
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07:29 <aosdict> hackemslashem: that only prevents a single space from accumulating to more than 3, so you can easily pick up and redistribute and let them propagate
07:31 <amateurhour> some players like doing boring stuff like that, if all they can get is carrots from it then it seems fine?
07:31 <amateurhour> as long as it doesn't become meta to do boring stuff
07:32 <hackemslashem> I still have to look over the patch, I don't really know the exact way it works. But I think hackem will benefit from lots of growing/reviving stuff, so it could be interesting with some tweaks :)
07:33 <hackemslashem> I feel like we need an herb that cures sickness... Because zombies. And if people farm that, seems fine to me!
07:34 <amateurhour> the meta being boring stuff to me includes altar farming, nurse dancing between every demon lord, polypiling...
07:34 * amateurhour looks at the camera
07:34 <aosdict> amateurhour: garlic can be used to bottle up graveyards, so farming it to find more than the 1-2 cloves you might get normally is definitely a strategy
07:34 <amateurhour> has anyone ever nonironically used garlic to fight vampires
07:35 <amateurhour> actually funny related story, one person actually did use garlic one time in slex and so garlic has been nerfed in slex
07:36 <hackemslashem> reactionary programming at work
07:36 <amateurhour> don't worry an artifact garlic has been added that doesn't have the nerf
07:36 <hackemslashem> oh phew
07:43 <aosdict> I can't tell if you're serious
07:43 <hackemslashem> Can't really figure out the frequency of growth for herbs. Looks like trees drop ripe fruit every 30 turns?
07:46 <amateurhour> which part aosdict? the garlic nerf and artifact garlic are real
07:46 <amateurhour> but I find it hilarious
07:48 <hackemslashem> The other stuff looks like it's called every turn, maybe it's limited in the growth functions?
07:48 <amateurhour> I think the the herbs every turn it picks a random herb to try grow
07:49 <amateurhour> man my brain is fried today please ignore typos :(
07:53 <hackemslashem> Should we count catnip too?
08:02 <aosdict> I guess it's not too outlandish that amy would nerf GARLIC of all things
08:02 <aosdict> but I still struggle to make myself believe it
08:08 <PhantomLumina> I believe it wholesale.
08:09 <PhantomLumina> The gal really can't handle being outwitted sometimes.
08:09 <arahael> hackemslashem: There's leaves.
08:09 <arahael> I always kick trees if I don't have a unicorn horn.
08:10 <PhantomLumina> ...also pretty sure(?) just getting carrots from it is fine, if anything carrots aren't exactly like.
08:10 <PhantomLumina> ultra-amazing.
08:10 <PhantomLumina> farming garlic doesn't have much long-term application because most folks tend towards "kill stuff faster" by design almost.
08:10 <PhantomLumina> of course, if you're Doing A Thing, then it's different.
08:11 <PhantomLumina> but that's the exception that proves the "rule" of it not being all that useful otherwise.
08:11 <arahael> How do you actually use garlic anyway?
08:12 <PhantomLumina> It's dropped on a square to ward off undead.
08:12 <amateurhour> you can attack with it to scare vampires
08:12 <arahael> Ah, interesting.
08:12 <PhantomLumina> undead.
08:12 <PhantomLumina> Not just vampires.
08:12 <arahael> So drop, or weild an hit?
08:12 <PhantomLumina> Both?
08:12 <PhantomLumina> ???
08:13 <arahael> Well, as the options, I mean. :)
08:13 <PhantomLumina> Outside of ghosts and shades, undead do not walk on squares with garlic.
08:13 <PhantomLumina> (covetous warp =/= walking)
08:13 <arahael> That could be useful.
08:13 <PhantomLumina> always has been. priest starts with it for a reason.
08:13 <amateurhour> well now you know how overpowered garlic is
08:13 <amateurhour> get using it
08:14 <PhantomLumina> annoyed I didn't consider sooner. could work for zombie containment.
08:14 <amateurhour> quick before the nerfhammer falls
08:14 <amateurhour> gogogo
08:14 <PhantomLumina> probably not overpowering sooner.
08:14 <arahael> I had better stop eating it.
08:14 <PhantomLumina> keith is not amy amateurhour 
08:14 <amateurhour> figure out a funny foolproof strat to cheese vecna with garlic
08:15 <PhantomLumina> is it foolproof against whoever tries making one to begin with
08:15 <PhantomLumina> if he's covetous it's right out anyway per above
08:16 <PhantomLumina> could facilitate zombie farming.
08:16 <PhantomLumina> ...but then that involves zombie farming.
08:17 <amateurhour> noone is gonna do any of this and if they do they deserve it :P
08:17 <aosdict> amateurhour: "cheese vecna with garlic"? sounds delicious
08:19 <PhantomLumina> hm. wonder if amy has artifact wolfsbane.
08:20 <PhantomLumina> not an attempt to be funny at her expense - animosity died out a long while back. seems like a thing she'd do though.
08:20 <arahael> Could be a good way to eat the hand.
08:21 <PhantomLumina> slash'em has cheese.
08:21 <PhantomLumina> possible.
08:22 <amateurhour> also has bad grammar when referring to cheese
08:22 <amateurhour> https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2995
08:23 <PhantomLumina> have seen "cheeses" as a plural noun.
08:24 <PhantomLumina> may be precedent unfortunately
08:24 <PhantomLumina> (for you anyway :B)
08:24 <amateurhour> uncountable nouns have plural forms too
08:25 <amateurhour> you use them in different contexts though
08:25 * arahael wonders if the "grains of sand" are a countable noun.
08:26 <amateurhour> sand is an uncountable noun as well, if there's different types of sands that's when you'd use the plural form
08:26 <amateurhour> good example thanks arahael
08:26 <PhantomLumina> ic
08:27 <PhantomLumina> clearly best solution is for hackemslashem to add 50 cheeses
08:27 <arahael> amateurhour: Yep, yet "grains of sand" itself is countable. (Not in practice), but sand itself is not.
08:27 <PhantomLumina> gouda, brie, swiss
08:27 <amateurhour> you'd still say picked up some gouda rather than a gouda so the issue might still exist
08:28 <arahael> PhantomLumina: If those are added, and this is nethack, then there should also be "Casu marzu".
08:28 <PhantomLumina> amateurhour: that was the joke
08:28 <amateurhour> if you don't sound like you're coughing at the start when you say gouda you're saying it wrong
08:28 <amateurhour> :^)
08:30 <arahael> If you find some cursed cheese but have very high luck, you get the message: "That was some good Casu Marzu!"
08:30 <amateurhour> nice
08:37 <arahael> Well, I was making that one up. But it'd be a neat idea. ;)
08:38 <aosdict> amateurhour: you're still on the hook to give us the recipe for The Melt of Vecna
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18:36 <VaderFLAG> on halloween in evilhack, all corpses should reanimate to a zombie form
18:37 <Umbire> so you're saying evilhack dresses as dnethack for halloween
18:37 <VaderFLAG> Oh do they do that? ha
18:38 <Umbire> yeah dnh has a zombie for most things what leave corpses
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19:29 <K2> neat
19:29 <K2> i wouldnt mind adding some sort of halloween only event built in to the game
19:38 <PhantomLumina> @?Medusa
19:38 <PhantomLumina> Bot down at the moment?
19:38 <PhantomLumina> or did I...
19:39 <PhantomLumina> Alright, it's not me at least
19:45 <K2> it is you :)
19:45 <K2> @e?Medusa
19:45 <K2> did i do that backwards hah
19:45 <K2> hmm
19:45 <K2> pinobot is connected...
19:47 <K2> @v?giant ant
19:47 <K2> weird
19:47 <K2> it sent me a private message for giant ant when i messaged it directly
19:47 <K2> there havent been any messages from hecubus in a long while
19:48 <K2> yeah its Hecubus
19:48 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus
19:48 -!- sodium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.0 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/wakb2u ¤ 'gnolls witherling'
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19:48 <K2> well the command you issued was incorrect
19:48 <K2> so smh
19:48 <PhantomLumina> @?Medusa
19:48 <Hecubus> Medusa (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 2 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 1d8 claw physical, 0d0 gaze petrification, 1d6 bite drain str | Align: -15 | omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, poisonous, nopoly, infravis
19:48 <K2> @v?giant ant
19:48 <Hecubus> giant ant (a) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, passes-bars
19:48 <PhantomLumina> :V
19:49 <PhantomLumina> that seems correct to me 
19:49 <PhantomLumina> it defaults to vanilla if you don't specify a variant
19:49 <K2> @? will return vanilla info
19:49 <Hecubus> No such monster.
19:49 <PhantomLumina> which is what I wanted, yes
19:49 <K2> smh
19:57 <K2> !who
19:57 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] elron [evil] KingGizzard [evil] :: [hdf-eu] cirrus [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
20:03 <krm26> !whoelse
20:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:51153
20:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Cav Gia Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:51478
20:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:24645
20:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:10474
20:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25205
20:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Mal Neu) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:25227
20:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:25230
20:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed Gjallar", on T:25249
21:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 676 points, T:2054, killed by an elf zombie
21:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a copper shield of reflection entrusted to him by Mog, on T:75466
21:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] cirrus (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 215371 points, T:25581, killed by Master Kaen, while moving through the air
21:35 <PhantomLumina> Welp
21:35 <PhantomLumina> !lastgame
21:35 <Hecubus> PhantomLumina: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1667177745.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/c/cirrus/evilhack/dumplog/1667137898.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1666516364.evil.html
22:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:15783
22:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] jb13 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2 points, T:128, killed by a crossbow bolt
23:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1214
23:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1276
23:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 821 points, T:1641, poisoned by a giant mosquito
23:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 824 points, T:2109, killed by a steel sling bullet
23:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 3068 points, T:3254, killed by a piranha
23:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 553 points, T:881, killed by a lesser homunculus, while fainted from lack of food