00:09 !tell qt https://termbin.com/4dkq I think it needs something like this, guessing those functions came from another variant that changed how mspec_used works? <--- yes, from grunthack. its becoming more apparent that maybe only ideas should be taken from grunthack, and not always its code 00:09 Will do, K2! 00:09 * K2 sighs 00:13 'lo 00:13 hi 00:13 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 02:09 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 02:33 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:12983 03:29 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:14126 03:52 Good morn all 05:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1394 points, T:1278, killed by a rabid dog, while reading a book 08:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:322 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 394 points, T:950, killed by a kitten 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:212 08:59 noooo 09:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1394 09:13 mobileuser congrats on yesterday's asc 09:14 morning hackemslashem 09:15 thx K2! 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:594 09:25 congrats mobileuser! 09:32 thank you :-) 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:4961 09:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9596 points, T:5281, killed by a rope golem 09:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1660 09:53 mobileuser still at a sad, pathetic first evilhack ascensions :-P 09:53 hah dropped the 26 somehow. 09:53 26 sad pathetic first ascensions! 09:53 i'll see myself out 10:02 Likely to remain 26. Getting crowned as demon is just more fun! 10:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4215 10:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6394 points, T:4219, killed by a human zombie, while praying 10:10 [EvilHack] elunna opened issue #103: Zapping self with slow monster doesn't always cause slowness. - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/issues/103 10:13 ^ unplayable 10:14 lol, at least I *think* it's a bug 10:20 i was debating trying to keep my current infidel an elf 10:21 cons: not as fun 10:21 pros: 10:28 it's easier if you happen to find a HoOA early 10:28 i'd have 51% as many first ascensions as mobileuser if i did an elf infidel 10:28 I suspect the first ascs for infidel will change eventually on the scoreboard 10:28 how does hooa even work for infidels? 10:28 to be starting race rather than ending race 10:29 it always makes you lawful 10:29 hooa  turns you lawful, you can then crown as lawful 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:15756 10:54 come on Moloch, why not a stack 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3420 points, T:2316, killed by a champion of Ishtar 11:04 the start of your Moloch dagger collection 11:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:15 hackemslashem: that looks intentional to me, it's from vanilla 11:15 qt: Message from K2 at 2022-10-20 00:09 EDT: https://termbin.com/4dkq I think it needs something like this, guessing those functions came from another variant that changed how mspec_used works? <--- yes, from grunthack. its becoming more apparent that maybe only ideas should be taken from grunthack, and not always its code 11:17 I'm unsure why it would be bad to allow slow monster to actually slow you, but the 'fix' would be just to leave out the `if (HFast & (TIMEOUT|INTRINSIC))` so I don't think it's unintentional 11:17 that seems to be put in there deliberately 11:18 like code from slashem and slashthem u gotta distrust it 11:19 can monsters zap slow monster at the hero? i can't remember 11:19 looks like they can in evilhack but not in vanilla 11:20 qt I think the oversight is not changing that bit from vanilla 11:20 because unlike vanilla it doesn't remove your intrinsic speed, it adds the Slow intrinsic 11:21 oh 11:21 that makes sense, yeah it does seem like a bug then 11:22 wait do all slowing attacks just remove your intrinsic speed in vanilla? 11:23 i thought the guys in orcustown could slow you past your normal speed 11:23 but looking at the code I am not seeing that, interesting 11:31 Mixing the slow and fast intrinsics seems to work for me, meaning that slow overrides fast 11:36 Skeletons can't slow you to slow speed? That's weird 11:37 that one has never made sense to me 11:37 shades I get but skeletons are just bones 11:38 in a brave hypothetical variant there would be a skeletal form of every monster with a skeleton :P 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 42351 points, T:20175, choked on a food ration 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Rat King, on T:17472 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:17533 11:43 oh f me, genocide + wish 11:43 want to wish for a weapon but any wielder will kill me for sure 11:44 when you merge scales onto armor it blows away armor properties, right? 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una) wished for "cursed +3 fixed bone small shield of drain resistance", on T:17539 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17668 11:50 whaaat...teleportation traps won't teleport me? i just get disoriented? 11:50 what is wrong with infidels man 11:51 I am not liking this windows 11 upgrade. Feels like it was zapped with slow monster :( 11:52 I may have to get my games machine off Windows 7 next year 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Arc Hob Mal Law) murdered Panka, his faithful kitten, on T:566 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 115 points, T:411, poisoned by a rotted goblin corpse, while praying 12:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 695 points, T:765, killed by a glass crossbow bolt 12:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 462 points, T:491, killed by a small mimic 12:12 anybody have info on why an infidel not wearing mr can't take teleporters? 12:12 isn't it because the amulet blocks teleporting 12:12 oh goddamn it 12:13 i totally forgot i was lugging that piece of crap around 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 68 points, T:110, killed by a jackal 12:21 presumably it teleports when dropped some of the time? good grief 12:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1132 points, T:2474, killed by a small mimic 12:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:879 12:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:4227 12:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4785 points, T:4227, killed by a gold arrow 12:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1623 13:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4586 13:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant crocodile, on T:6401 13:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9273 points, T:6874, killed by draining their own life force 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3389 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3908 14:12 k2, the "you can safely pray" enlightenment description should presumably be different for infidels? 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:21319 14:17 jebus moloch you f'er 14:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 445 points, T:952, killed by a goblin, while reading a book 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 412 points, T:991, poisoned by a little dart 14:28 nooooooooooo free action is gooooooooold 14:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1121 14:31 at least it's not silver (if you plan on becoming a demon) 14:32 krm26 why should the "you can safely pray" enlightenment description be different for infidels? 14:33 didn't think of that :-) silver is lev 14:33 demon can fly so that is great! 14:33 i didn't think infidels could pray normally? 14:33 they can 14:33 but 14:33 there is a high chance Moloch won't hear you 14:33 Since you're too close to the surface 14:34 It's unsafe in the sense he might not respond, as opposed to "unsafe because you prayed too early/tanked your alignment/god's a little bitch/etc." 14:34 if you are on a Moloch altar, then he can hear yiu 14:34 * you 14:37 what is the infidel quest like? should i put it off until i'm not garbagetime? 14:37 paladin hard, boulder fort fireball 14:38 if you get crowned you'll get the spellbook 14:40 ow! some dwarf on the quest just poked me with snickersnee 14:41 wish that was a goddamn short sword 14:45 well yay, agent stole my amulet and left the level somehow 14:45 if you manage to find a spellbook of fireball before getting crowned, you could unlock another weapon skill 14:45 i'm going to die to losing the amulet shortly 14:45 stepped on the portal? 14:45 i'm on the 2nd level of the quest 14:46 maybe he fell down a level 14:46 or used stairs 14:47 my first wish is often speed boots to outrun agents... 14:47 they are bloody fast 14:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:4237 14:47 oh i am so lucky 14:47 yay? 14:47 somehow a kobold had them? maybe there is a poly trap somewhere 14:48 a polytrap is common in the infidel quest 14:48 sorry qt I used the wrong swear word again 14:49 what do you mean? 14:50 oh last time I used the b-word you didn't like it? 14:50 bromeliad? 14:50 heh 14:53 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 14:55 is it cool to eat agent corpses? 14:55 just like in real life? 14:56 I imagine they're cannibalism for humans but fine otherwise? 14:56 @e?agent 14:56 agent (@) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon amulet steal, 1d1 claw amulet steal, 1d1 claw amulet steal, 1d1 claw amulet steal | Alignment: -7 | Flags: omnivore, teleports, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 15:00 yeah as elf it's fine 15:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5508 15:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 14412 points, T:6765, killed by a centaurian watchman, while sleeping 15:27 Hmm, I thought you could cancel zombies in evil and prevent them from reviving, but doesn't look liek it 15:27 Is tinning kit the only way? 15:28 you can box em 15:28 you can forge em 15:29 Forge haha, that's awesome 15:29 Oh yea I love the box trick for trolls that makes sense 15:30 I'm considering having wands of healing "cancel" zombies 15:32 wands of healing? you're a million miles away from evilhack 15:32 Yeap 15:33 I got the idea from Evil though because the spell of cure sickness does damage to zombies 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by an elven lady), on T:21125 15:37 I'm surprised that cancelling zombies doesn't work? Sounds like a bug. 15:38 (if you have sickness res you can eat them, 0 calories) 15:39 Yum 15:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:4348 15:40 I think cancellation is more for magical things, so a zombie's revival mechanic would just be part of their nature, not magical. I guess you could make an argument it's a kind of dark magic though. 15:41 no, if you cancel a troll it won't revive 15:41 Cancelling works for trolls and their corpses 15:41 ahp lol 15:41 so why not for zombies 15:42 I dunno, let's ask K2 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8606 points, T:4841, killed by an orcish arrow 15:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 536 points, T:855, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted small mimic 16:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:12 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:34 -!- nabbi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:45 -!- nabbi has joined #evilhack 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class b, on T:22129 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2114 16:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:09 cancellation doesnt affect zombie revival, but it does cancel their zombie sickness attack 17:09 a cancelled zombie is a good zombie 17:12 hackemslashem thx for the issue report 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 65906 points, T:23018, killed by a fire elemental 17:24 oof 17:27 :c 17:28 qt do you mind explaining why this is necessary? https://termbin.com/4dkq - I believe you, I just dont quite grasp why 17:29 and why would sgrunt have added that code if it just made things flaky 17:29 it probably works in grunthack 17:30 it's like saying "if mspec_used is less than 200, they can cast spells" <-- suggests in grunthack, mspec_used isn't a timeout but more like a mana pool 17:30 but in evilhack (and vanilla) mspec_used is more like a timeout after every spell 17:30 oh i see 17:31 the way it's set up right now is like this https://termbin.com/vbtw 17:31 so if a spellcaster has nonzero mspec_used it will hit the early return and never have a chance to say "oh, I actually can't cast that spell, so let me try other options" 17:32 oh that makes sense 17:33 ok thanks 17:33 no problem 17:38 K2 did you see my great fan art last night 17:38 i did 17:38 maybe you should put it on the TNNT shirt 17:38 rodney looked very dead 17:38 that would sell like hotcakes I bet 17:38 lol 17:51 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:08 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/def9872c371b...925601c50a88 18:41 [EvilHack] k21971 481384e - Remove unnecessary mspec code from mcastu.c 18:41 [EvilHack] k21971 925601c - Fix: zapping self with slow monster doesn't always cause slowness. 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 933 points, T:1299, killed by a magic missile 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1456 19:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1956 points, T:2413, killed by a giant ant 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3464 points, T:3343, killed by a giant cockroach 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2245 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +0 katana on an altar, on T:3011 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 781 points, T:2448, killed by a rabid dog 21:30 -!- rebatela has quit [*.net *.split] 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1477 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4225 22:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 838 points, T:1084, killed by the Goblin King 22:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:892 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:25119 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 7853 points, T:5313, killed by a bone orcish arrow 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Law), 84 points, T:161, killed by a fox