00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2544 00:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 339 points, T:581, killed by a wand 01:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:884 03:26 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 04:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:07 Still finding bugs with my vampire race; hopefully I can work them out today. Pets are currently broken, won't eat corpses on the ground but will eat treats thrown at them; suspect it's the draining mechanic but we'll see. 05:10 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a dwarvish short sword entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4016 05:18 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a stone small shield entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4880 05:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:45 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5864 05:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 06:12 I think I've solved the vamp-race-inherits-spellcasting bug finally. Turns out they were not inheriting vampire mage abilities, but the role's abilities! So an ice mage was getting the attacks a player monster ice mage would get. 06:14 wew 06:18 nice one figuring it out 06:21 It was a consequence of trying to combine polyself stuff from Unnethack with Evil :$ 06:25 This probably means I don't need the placeholder "vampiric", which simplifies things. But I guess if I keep it we could have vampiric shopkeepers? 06:29 K2: Would you advise keeping a placeholder for every race? 06:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:36146 07:00 OMG I feel guilty for defeating Kathryn 07:00 Yeah. 07:00 there goes my perfect alignment :-( 07:00 Because you're an Infidel. 07:00 I know that 07:01 then you know to get your shit and get goin', she's gonna want a round 2 07:01 Yup, I already opened 3 chests before I engaged 07:01 phew, fixed pet food. Misplaced something when I added vampires (ofc it's always vampires) 07:02 but if I want perfect alignment record I need to remember to just not engage her at all 07:02 Why does fighting her affect that? 07:03 because a Moloch witch put a spell on her 07:03 And as a Moloch Infidel I have just broken the curse 07:03 Moloch not happy 07:04 Ah, interesting! 07:05 Kathryn also doesn't like infidels for that reason 07:05 so you have a 100-turn grace period to GTFO 07:05 So, enough to rescue the pegasus, get the bag, and run? 07:05 mobileuser: I think the strategy if you want her stuff is less "not engage" and moreso "not kill" 07:05 erm, defeat rather 07:05 since she doesn't die 07:06 I'd probably zap a wand of teleport at each of the chests, too. 07:06 she's vulnerable to para iirc, that's what I think I used to beat her 07:06 arahael: correct on former, once those 100 turns are up she'll pursue you since she remains hostile 07:08 Nice detail. :) 07:13 arahael it's all about the bag, my infidel doesn't care about rescuing anything :b 07:13 Do you get a penalty for rescuing the pegasus? 07:13 no, role playing 07:14 "I'd probably zap a wand of teleport at each of the chests, too." 07:14 Ah, interesting. 07:14 alas 07:14 Hmm? 07:14 that's what I always did, until K2 noticed that 07:14 D'oh. 07:15 now you can't teleport a crystal chest anymore 07:15 Any crystal chest? 07:15 my memory says yes 07:15 That's a fairly specific nerf! 07:15 not always to be trusted 07:16 now how does this bag-to-bag transfer work again... 07:17 unpack everything. pack everyhting in the new bag. NO DAMN IT, NOT THE OLD BOH! 07:17 That's how it works. 07:17 no, there was a new QoL thing 07:18 Hmm? 07:18 exactly 07:18 hmmmm.... 07:22 why can't you teleport them? specific nerf to strategy? :( 07:22 oh tip! 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:10613 07:22 yeah quit a while ago amateurhour 07:23 * quite 07:23 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23 owned for being clever :( 07:24 arahael you can #tip the contents of one bag into another 07:24 saves a lot of time IF you can remember the command and don't have to search the source again :b 07:30 oh "nice", a frost giant is smashing all the doors so Katryn can walk over 07:31 cooperation! 07:33 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a Green-elf), on T:10861 07:35 I guess a new strategy that can't be nerfed is lure ice queen round the loop then go in and loot in relative safety 07:36 and teleport out 07:36 maybe someone is already doing that 07:37 also, I wonder if it would be possible to complete flood the level 07:37 I always assumed it was a no-teleport level, never even tried 07:37 level teleport out I mean not teleport out 07:38 you cancel her first so she doesn't cock-up your lure by flooding the area with summoned nasties? 07:39 hmm ice under the spear trap doesn't melt 07:40 remember the water will also refreeze over time 07:42 it doesn't seem possible to lead water into the building anyway 07:55 Crystal chests are supposed to be magic-proofed, so unfortunately teleproofing also makes sense 07:56 Since I think monsters may also zap tele wands at you? 07:56 supposed to be magic-proofed in what sense? knock works just fine 07:56 Yeah but nothing else does 07:56 or, I hope not anyway, I'm likely misremembering 07:56 they can't be poly'd can they 07:57 !tell arahael you can #tip the contents of one bag into another 07:57 arahael shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, mobileuser. 08:03 mobileuser: You can!? 08:03 arahael: Message from mobileuser at 2022-10-16 07:57 EDT: you can #tip the contents of one bag into another 08:04 mobileuser: (Btw, I always check the backlog for mentions) 08:04 heh 08:06 -!- efot has joined #evilhack 08:07 ahh, there's nothing like bringing 7k gold into minetown...only to discover it's orcish town 08:17 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 7182 points, T:10381, killed by an enormous rat 08:20 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:28 Ooph, Lavender Town is brutal mixed with Evilhack :-O 08:32 Lavender town? 08:35 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 15294 points, T:5688, killed by a bolt of lightning 08:35 Frustrating. Brutally murdered by the lightning. Finished of by the bounce. 08:38 arahael: splicehack minetown variant with graveyards 08:43 Oh, nice. 08:43 Yep, it has lots of zombies, ghosts, and wraiths 08:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53 Oh that's the worst parts of Orc Town times a thousand 08:53 watch and priests aren't guaranteed to survive fighting back either, shopkeepers maybe 08:55 Heh - it's up to you to save them! 09:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) completed her quest without incident, on T:52861 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2448 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 259 points, T:3581, killed by a gnoll cleric 09:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1952 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5237 points, T:7865, killed by an elf zombie 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 327 points, T:848, killed by a goblin 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:57352 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 229 points, T:910, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:30 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 10:30 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest1288 10:30 -!- Guest1288 has quit [Killed (iridium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:30 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 1165 points, T:3533, killed by a vampire in bat form 10:36 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 43368 points, T:16615, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 10:38 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 885 points, T:1857, poisoned by a rotted goblin shaman corpse, while praying 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:59387 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2750 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1462 points, T:880, killed by a manes 11:03 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #evilhack 11:03 -!- amateurhour has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by amateurh1ur))] 11:04 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 11:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) averted death (killed by Mr. Tegal; the shopkeeper), on T:5165 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 6822 points, T:5167, killed by Mr. Tegal; the shopkeeper 11:41 K2: Would you advise keeping a placeholder for every race? <--- if you plan on adding more later, yeah 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 27094 points, T:10991, killed by a Woodland-elf 11:57 K2: Is it more for keeping races and monsters separate or for adding racial shopkeepers? Or both? 12:03 well it;d be for whatever use you foresee having in the future 12:03 i know you added vampire race 12:03 are there other races you want to add? 12:03 are you keeping all of the evilhack races? do you envision vampire shopkeeper? etc 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) made her first wish - "+2 studded dragonhide armor", on T:62551 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide armor", on T:62555 12:10 Ah ok, yea possibly other races - but they are such a pain. 12:10 Oh definitely keeping all the evil races! 12:11 Oh that reminds me, stronger gnolls from SLASH'EM and THEM can hide in ways where you can't detect them 12:11 Do you think they used a similar workaround to beholders or something else? 12:12 hmm 12:12 They have M1_HIDE, so they'll do just that 12:13 But in evil you'll probably wake them up by fighting around them 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1056 points, T:1164, killed by a kobold lady, while sleeping off a magical draught 12:46 "Transforming, the dwarven lieutenant falls from the centaurian sergeant!" 12:46 utter Ludios chaos 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) made her first artifact wish - "cursed +2 Dragonbane", on T:62635 12:54 refresh my senile brain - tnnt is the vanilla one, right? 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2339 points, T:2228, killed by a black unicorn 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 28 points, T:27, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse, while praying 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:81304 13:03 compared to what? 13:04 hackemslashem: I was more wondering how they avoided some forms of detection 13:04 Also turns out most beholders technically have two minds 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:81361 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 840 points, T:1036, killed by a goblin 13:20 Oh, I always remember seeing them with warning in slashem 13:21 I suppose that could be flavored as "fouls telepathic detection" 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:1985 13:27 If something is mindless you won't be able to see it telepathically 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 1061 points, T:2505, killed by an enormous rat 13:27 Or maybe if they are wearing tinfoil hats? 13:28 YASI: Every beholder generates wearing a tinfoil hat because each mind doesn't want the other reading it 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:65125 13:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Croesus, on T:41639 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 1268 points, T:5099, killed by an enormous rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1954 13:48 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 13:48 -!- Umby has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:81565 13:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3323 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:67197 14:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful lesser nightmare, on T:5633 14:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 11438 points, T:5731, killed by a giant beetle 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the orcish high priestess of Moloch, on T:81792 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:81794 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:67427 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:67575 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1871 points, T:5238, killed by a lichen 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1665 14:37 go go go krm26! 14:41 i don't like this next part 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:83156 14:41 oh goddamit 14:43 ugh 14:43 ? 14:44 first level air, i've had bad experiences 14:44 this one wasn't so bad 14:45 it is the arrive on air, double trouble, steal amulet and critical quest item, bounce away, fill area with nasties thing that gets me down 14:48 2 wizards in water is 2 too many 14:50 I thought angels automatically hated demons, but I just saw a peaceful one... 14:51 yay woolly stampede 14:53 MOAR woolies 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:83389 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:83392 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:83422 14:56 heh 14:56 congrats! 14:56 whatnow 14:56 huh? 14:57 oops 14:57 loki blew up my helm of opposite alignment and told me to go screw 14:57 it's like 50/50 14:57 or something 14:57 i had no idea! 14:57 wand of wishing 14:57 try again 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) wished for "cursed -3 rusty helm of opposite alignment", on T:83424 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:83427 14:58 WHERE IS THE GREASE 14:58 oh it's 1/3 chance to fail 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Law), 3974038 points, T:83427, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1665283452.evil.html 14:58 hah 14:58 gratz! 14:58 \o/ 14:58 yay! 14:58 grease is good so i didn't wish for grease 14:58 lol 14:58 nice! 14:58 I think since that change went in noone used opposite alignment till now, but could be wrong 14:58 i am close to asserting priest dominance 14:58 feels like something shadowrider would have done actually 14:59 i think that is my 6th first-to-ascend priest combo 14:59 noice 14:59 tortle priest next? 15:00 i feel like, having ascended one tortle, i am done with tortles 15:00 i've still never gotten an infidel 15:00 I did get pretty far with my tortle priest until I met Demogorgon in bones 15:00 i could try barb tortle i guess, i don't have a barbarian first-to-ascend 15:01 try giant infidel 15:01 not a real fan of barb tho 15:01 congrats krm26 woooop 15:01 giant can't be infidel? 15:01 can they? 15:01 giant infidel is great fun! 15:01 Yes, they can 15:01 also gg 15:02 nethackscoreboard is wrong then 15:02 i just love priests 15:02 they fit my slow, cruddy ocd playstyle very well 15:03 plus you love to complain how shit priests are ;-) 15:03 what? priests are amazing! 15:03 ahem 15:03 rangers are crap 15:04 what?!? 15:04 lol 15:04 and the priest artifact is crap 15:04 yeah priest is cool 15:04 but who gives a f about your stupid quest artifact when your first sacrifice gift is DEMONBANE 15:08 the mitre of holiness is fucking awesome. take it back 15:08 it only JUST NOW occurred to me. the whole point of that was for the chaotic giant ascension. i didn't do it, did i? i helmed my way to failure without a second thought 15:08 you take the mitre back, i don't want it 15:08 forge the mitre into a Holy Sword 15:08 mitre want to watch what you say 15:08 then maybe krm26 would want it 15:08 speed? no. dragonhide? no. oilskin? no. 15:09 * K2 turns the mitre into a tin openr 15:09 giant pool of pw on demand? yes 15:09 +e 15:09 telepathy? no. drain resistance? no. 15:09 you realize it allows you to play whilst in gehennom right? and use #turn 15:09 WHILST 15:10 why would i ever #turn? it is a dangerous turn-eater. why would i ever pray? if you have to pray you are doing it wrong 15:10 smh 15:10 if i have to pray it is probably because graz'zt has already stolen my mitre 15:10 the tin opener of holiness 15:10 prayer at all in Gehennom is an entire factor of ass-saving that isn't available to you otherwise 15:11 it's cool if you can normally play around that 15:11 the problem is (seriously) that the helm slot is already *usually* critical for something you really don't want to give up (speed, oilskin) 15:11 and you like to main giants, so 15:11 grease the helm, learn 'haste self' 15:11 prob solved 15:11 if it was the chasuble of holiness... 15:13 and greasing hats is barely functional for fast races, totally pointless for slow ones, where a master mind flayer will get like 7 more drinks at the well after the grease wears off the first hit 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1466 15:14 that happened to me this very fun, grease wore off and a shambling horror ate 2 levels of my hammer, 2 levels of my mace, and all my divination and clerical spells before i got a round off 15:14 one variant has multiple layers of grease where you can have up to 3 applications of grease I think? 15:14 (my own fault, had an oilskin hat i should have been wearing) 15:15 wouldn't help slow races against mind flayers, but would for normal speed 15:15 i'd like to see a monster's round end when they remove the helm grease, while they clean off their tentacles or whatever 15:15 potentially breaks saves by using an extra bit for the grease in obj.h 15:15 that's a good idea 15:17 the mitre is a condom full of lollipops compared to the ranger bow, tho 15:17 wow 15:17 just wow 15:17 lol 15:17 -- not totally the artifact's fault, it suffers because of the use/dual wield/swap mechanisms 15:18 if it was a single keypress/round for a ranger to swap between dual wielding and bow use, that would change things dramatically 15:18 vanilla has a sort of autowield bow to fire thing now 15:18 and fourk/fiqhack(? idk which) has a nicer one 15:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:18 the critical thing is 1 round, switch melee/ranged mode for rangers 15:18 yeah, I think that's how the fourk/fiq one works, not sure about vanilla 15:20 Also rangers can't dual-wield? 15:20 you're right. am i on drugs? could they ever dual wield? 15:20 no. 15:20 who knows where my brain is then 15:21 the Mitre overall strikes me as underwhelming in general, and it is the case in evil but I also feel it's overstated 15:22 prayer in gehennom is damn nice but also not quite enough 15:22 in vanilla there are a lot more craptastic artifacts than evil, evil has made the vast majority of artifacts feel worthy 15:22 rangers can dual wield in evilhack, not vanilla 15:22 i think that makes the few subpar artifacts stand out more 15:22 and maybe they can in other variants 15:22 THERE, thank you k2, i'm not totally idiotic 15:22 ah, that'd be it then 15:22 only 97% idiot today 15:23 (and the more i whine the more you know i love evilhack) 15:23 lol 15:24 picking up the ranger artifact should unlock a new "use slot" for missile weapon, allowing you to equip the bow while using your other weapons/weapon+shield 15:24 now THAT is an exciting artifact 15:24 you'd have to wade through a lot of spent ranger fluid to get to that bow 15:24 pardon my french 15:25 honestly Evil's Ranger QAs are fine imo? 15:26 not the dogwater they are in vanilla iirc 15:26 in vanilla, bows/crossbows are one-handed for some bizarre reason. i made them two-handed in evilhack 15:27 the damage bonus is p. relevant, shame about the lack of multishot for non-humans 15:27 (gnomes have the Crossbow so) 15:28 the only one-handed bow i've ever seen, was for a guy with only one arm and it was a specially made bow so he could pull the drawstring with his mouth 15:28 I still feel like the ranger quest is bleh 15:28 real crossbows use hand cranks or foot cranks 15:29 but that's more of an original sin 15:29 yeah, most vanilla quests are fairly bleh 15:30 I'm talking in the sense of "damn near need reflection to get in" 15:30 also tree maze 15:32 k2, what were the centaur roles you unlocked recently? 15:34 infidel 15:34 for next version 15:37 but next version is the underwater stuff with the new payable selkie, sahaugin, and hippocampus races, right? 15:38 no 15:38 there will be underwater stuff tho 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 604 points, T:3076, killed by a bugbear, while praying 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4918 points, T:2704, killed by a rock gnome, while frozen by a potion 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a club entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:68264 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:69225 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] slarty (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 469 points, T:1917, killed by a hobbit, while unconscious from rotten food 16:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 124 points, T:535, killed by a boulder 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] slarty (Inf Hum Fem Una), 106 points, T:548, killed by a water elemental 17:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:43965 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:43975 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una), 40 points, T:115, killed by a little dart 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una), 4 points, T:33, killed by a sewer rat 17:05 "You hear hollow thud" 17:06 what could that be 17:08 a door rotted by poison gas?? 17:09 (also, no indefinite article) 17:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:19 caveman no like thud 17:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3195 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 61 points, T:513, killed by a falling rock 17:31 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Elf Fem Una), 2821 points, T:2286, killed by a dart 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3291 points, T:3009, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Yeenoghu 17:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 14412 points, T:6733, killed by a death ray 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5036 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 6958 points, T:6204, killed by a piranha 18:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:759 18:19 -!- Frozty has joined #evilhack 18:20 krm26 mobileuser Follow-up to yesterday's discussion about Demon Lords and Levelporting/Teleporting. 18:20 Do they only block you in Gehennom? I think that is so. 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 653 points, T:1321, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 94 points, T:197, killed by an exploding wand 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3265 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1917 points, T:2384, killed by a rothe 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 3049 points, T:4224, killed by a Woodland-elf 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 703 points, T:506, killed by a poisonous corpse 19:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2767 points, T:1846, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13736 19:39 Frozty: no, they will block you (sometimes) anywhere afaik 19:40 so if a water demon demogorgons you on level 10, you can be levelport blocked 19:40 i forget what the failure rate is 19:40 not 100% tho 19:44 Several refences in the wiki for Vanilla 3.7 specify that it's Gehennom only (teleport block only -- levelport block is new to Evilhack I think). K2, is Demon Lord teleport and levelport everywhere for Evilhack? I'd test in Wizard mode but I think wizard mode allows you to teleport without restriction. 19:47 that's correct 19:47 is Demon Lord teleport and levelport *block* everywhere 19:47 oops -- was correcting as your msg came up 19:47 yes, its when you're in their presence 19:47 even out of Gehennom 19:47 yes 19:48 there's a 20% chance you can overcome the block if its a demon lord, only a 5% chance if its a demon prince 19:49 too slim to use as a planned tactic then 19:50 I was going to use Mine's End as a "Lobster Trap" (I have surrounded the stairs with boulders). So much for that. 19:53 did you somehow get a demon lord at mines end? 19:53 also FYI, demon lords and lesser demons can never summon a demon prince, so you dont have to worry about getting 'demogorgoned' by a water demon 19:53 you could use the cursed statue and wait 19:54 only demon princes can gate in other demon princes 19:54 i still can't tell the difference between the princes and the lords 19:54 which are the princes again? graz'zt, and graz'zt? 19:55 orcus, tiamat, demogorgon, asmodeus, graz'zt 19:55 and for next version, add lucifer 19:55 but lucifer is a special case 19:56 i guess it was maybe yeen i got on like level 4? or lolth? man, my memory is shot 19:56 meaning lucifer can never be gated in as he's needed to be where you encounter him 19:57 there should be a chance for a bound copy of sandman in a book store and if you've read it when you encounter lucifer he just hands you the key to hell and skedaddles. then every lord and prince that hasn't been killed jumps on you at once for the key 19:57 heh 19:57 did you watch the sandman series on netflix? 19:57 i did! it was actually good i thought -- and i generally hate those transfers 19:58 i'm the guy who can't stop talking shit about the lord of the rings movies :-) 19:58 but i enjoyed sandman quite a bit. my 12 year old daughter thought it was "slow" 19:58 K2: is alhoon warping all over the place intended behavior for them? 19:58 yes 19:58 just like a lich 19:59 alhoons gonna alhoon 19:59 krm26 i enjoyed the sandman series too 19:59 so annoying... 19:59 kill it 20:00 lich usually head for the stairs and stay there if you're standing on it. Alhoons warp all over the place and never settle down. 20:00 well, eventually they do. 20:00 that warping behavior is true across the board 20:00 has been for awhile now 20:00 maybe I kill L's too fast then 20:01 first world problems 20:01 exactly 20:02 :) 20:03