00:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 173915 points, T:21253, drowned in a moat by a giant eel
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02:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2072
02:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2989
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02:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "asdf", on T:3771
02:38 <arahael> K2: Is it intentional that when you attack a peaceful, so that it's now no-longer peaceful, that it further abuses your alignment when you then have to kill it?
02:39 <arahael> I know that the initial attack abuses it.
05:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:50114
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06:51 <arahael> YASI: When you get crowned, you can pick a new name.
07:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 12447 points, T:6525, killed by a mumak
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08:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:16845
08:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1854
08:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:17742
08:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Fem Law), 46631 points, T:17944, killed by a human mummy, while paralyzed by a monster
09:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1621
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09:12 <Umbire> arahael: Vanilla.
09:12 <Umbire> killing a monster you antagonized that was formerly peaceful penalizes you for the same amount of record that killing an already-hostile monster would give
09:12 <Umbire> Alignment record page covers it
09:19 <hackemslashem> Any good ideas for variants that add artifact info to the itemdex lookup?
09:20 <hackemslashem> I thought dnh had it, was poking around a little but couldn't find anything
09:22 <amateurhour> dnh dit does 
09:22 <amateurhour> dnh, it does*
09:23 <amateurhour> it's all done within the heckin YUGE function describe_item in src/invent.c
09:24 <amateurhour> just to check, you're looking at the dNAO repo rather than the dnethack repo right?
09:25 <hackemslashem> ohh that's where it is lol
09:25 <hackemslashem> Yeap
09:25 <hackemslashem> I'm getting very repo savvy now :)
09:26 <amateurhour> cool
09:29 <hackemslashem> Now the question is how to integrate that with the existing item lookup in evil...
09:31 <hackemslashem> Or maybe just use it for inspiration..
09:32 <hackemslashem> Man everything is hardcoded in that function, yikes
09:32 <Umbire> dNAO and evil use entirely different codebases 
09:33 <Umbire> on top of dnh having to do A Lot to make certain shit work and the code being Fucking Raw™ in some places
09:33 <Umbire> (which, whom among us y'know)
09:38 <hackemslashem> Inspiration it is lol
09:39 <hackemslashem> Lemme check if splice has artifact info ..
09:39 <hackemslashem> oh, nope no item select 
09:40 <hackemslashem> So my starting point is pager.c: add_obj_info, let's goooo
09:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3458 points, T:2936, killed by an owlbear
09:46 <Umbire> it absolutely does not, no
09:49 <K2> heh
09:55 <krm26> mission ACCOMPLISHED, wife and daughter off to the pride parade without me! now, do i work on precipitation effects on hearing and smell, or finish killing my giant priest?
09:56 <amateurhour> third option: finish the giant priest without killing it
09:57 <krm26> that sounds like a lot more work than the other two options?
09:57 <hackemslashem> +beer
09:57 <amateurhour> while using a spray bottle to spray yourself in the face periodically for science
09:57 <amateurhour> that's what you meant about precipitation events right? ez
09:57 <krm26> i lazily wraithed myself up to 30 which means it is almost impossible for me to ascend now
09:58 <krm26> randomly generated titans and archons and npcs just eat me for lunch and there will be a lot of them
09:58 <krm26> guess i could drain myself back down to like 14
10:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1305 points, T:1833, killed by a bolt of cold
11:48 <krm26> damn archon with sunsword filled all of kas's level with monsters for me
12:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law), 560 points, T:926, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
12:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:64824
12:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1600
12:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) murdered her faithful xorn, on T:65000
12:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2250
12:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1824 points, T:2782, killed by a giant mosquito
12:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Croesus, on T:46501
12:53 <krm26> the criminal cried as he dropped him down in a state of wild alarm -- with a frightful frantic fearful frown i bared my big right arm
12:53 <krm26> every single time that song goes through my head
12:54 <krm26> ...as i gnashed my teeth when from its sheath i drew my snickersnee!
12:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3308
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13:46 <Frozty> Can you not still Levelport (cursed scroll of teleportation) from a no-teleport level?  I thought you can do that in Vanilla. I just was blocked from that on Lolth's level.
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:33723
13:48 <mobileuser> Frozty the presence of a demon lord can prevent levelporting
13:48 <amateurhour> even level teleporting? man that's evil
13:48 <Frozty> Hmm.  Maybe I've never tried that.
13:48 <mobileuser> that is specific to evilhack
13:48 <Frozty> [>that's evil]  You ain't kidding.
13:49 <mobileuser> quaffed cursed gain level can also fail when a demon lord / prince is present
13:49 <Frozty> What about Branchporting. I am still assuming I have that as an emergency escaope.
13:49 <mobileuser> I think that still works
13:50 <Frozty> [>quaffed cursed gain level can also fail] Well, shit, there goes that plan for my run.
13:50 <mobileuser> yeah you really need to kill the demon lords
13:50 <mobileuser> no skipping past them
13:51 <krm26> well, it doesn't fail 100% of the time, but still not a great strat
13:53 <aosdict> I need to start using that line for things
13:53 <aosdict> "well, it doesn't fail 100% of the time"
14:00 <Frozty> krm26  I'm reading older comments, and see this: "i lazily wraithed myself up to 30 which means it is almost impossible for me to ascend now"
14:00 <Frozty> Why would that make your ascension harder? Just tougher monsters being generated?
14:01 <Frozty> My Wiz is at 24 now, and my levelport was to go do just that.
14:06 <krm26> some classes have difficulty dishing out enough damage to keep up with tough end-game (gating) monsters.
14:06 <krm26> a level 30 priest can't really control more than one arch-lich, archon, ki-rin, titan, etc
14:06 <krm26> or maxed out @npc
14:07 <krm26> you get swamped
14:07 <krm26> it *is* possible to get stuff done wading through an endless swamp of monsters you can't clear
14:07 <krm26> but it makes things a lot more error-prone
14:08 <krm26> i just spent like 15k turns clearing out the vecna levels and it would have been a LOT faster at a lower level (or with a class that can really dish out damage)
14:08 <Frozty> Good to hear some stories before my first Evilhack run attempt.  I tend to rely on mobility as much as power, and the no-teleport stuff is handcuffing me already.
14:08 <krm26> single-hand +7 demonbane is not that awesome without rings
14:09 <krm26> wizards can do whatever they want :-)
14:09 <krm26> just beware of graz'zt
14:09 <Frozty> I *love* the Eye and Teleport Control.  Even though it is admittedly overpowered, please K2, never nerf that!
14:09 <krm26> 'z'z
14:12 <Frozty> Graz'zt: Just looked him up: he looks like fun.
14:13 <krm26> first time i met him he stripped me totally naked before i finally died
14:15 <Frozty> I've got Baphomet and Lolth so far in my first game.  I thought I had read that you could still bribe them. Can you?  Hard to test.
14:16 <Umbire> Can check source
14:16 <Umbire> Gonna be a while though
14:17 <krm26> i have never bribed a single demon lord in almost 4 decades of play
14:17 <krm26> that's MY money
14:18 <Frozty> I started bribing them in 3.7 when their presence started blocking teleportation. I hate chasing demons down.
14:18 <Frozty> especially when you have to do it on foot.
14:19 <krm26> if you don't want to you never have to chase them down, you can just fight them on the stairs
14:19 <Frozty> Still have to walk to them on the stairs tho
14:20 <Frozty> Asmodeus' Level is such a long slog, too.
14:21 <Frozty> I don't use "travel", and try to keep my turncounts low as a self-goal.
14:22 <krm26> ? don't walk to them. enter their level, drink cursed invis, kill
14:22 <Frozty> hmm... i like that. Never really used that.
14:22 <krm26> if you want to freight train it, then dig... dig dig dig cursed invis dig dig dig
14:22 <Frozty> <adds to toolbox>
14:22 <krm26> you'll be at the bottom before you know it
14:23 <krm26> me, i'm ocd, i make sure i have a nice clear path carved all the way back up
14:23 <krm26> (do not recommend, makes me super-slow)
14:23 <Frozty> now I wish i hadn't just blanked my potions of invisibility.
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14:26 <krm26> noooo! best potions of all
14:26 <krm26> what is awful is when invis is smoky
14:26 <krm26> almost as bad as full healing being smoky
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14:28 <Umbire> cursed see invis is still a thing
14:28 <Frozty> reading a bit... can a ring of aggravate monster also bring a demon lord/prince to you?
14:29 <Frozty> i always have considered that ring useless (just a test trap)
14:31 <Frozty> [>cursed see invis is still a thing]  I don't follow (?)
14:31 <krm26> you want cursed !inv, then gjallar if you got it
14:32 <krm26> aggravate monster won't pull a demon prince across a level to the up-stairs
14:33 <Umbire> Aggravate monster is generally something for when you want to wake monsters before they get to you
14:34 <Umbire> It's more applicable to say, Knights dealing with scattered nymphs and the like
14:34 <Umbire> Since you can't pound/attack sleeping monsters without penalty
14:36 <Umbire> For individual monsters cursed invis potions (dunno how see got in there) are more what you want
14:36 <Frozty> My Knights have always just carried a tin whistle.
14:36 <Umbire> Lightweight, saves a ring slot, makes sense
14:37 <Frozty> I think I've used cursed !seeinvis once, on one of the quests. Kaen?  Only plaved that role once.
14:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:68592
14:38 <Frozty> Never though to use that to lure a emon though. I like it.
14:38 <krm26> sigh, sunk him in lava
14:40 <Frozty> does that mean you lose the hand/eye?
14:41 <krm26> apparently yes
14:41 <krm26> k2: killing vecna in lava means no eye/hand, even though they are supposedly fireproof.
14:41 <krm26> intentional?
14:43 <Frozty> can you jump in, pick it up, and get back out?
14:44 <Frozty> or freeze it?
14:45 <krm26> of course, i filled in the lava and dug it out. no dice, just his random ring survived
14:45 <Umbire> Frozty: The Eye and Hand are special death drops 
14:46 <Umbire> Vecna has to be killed in a way that leaves a corpse, meaning no disintegration or digesting
14:46 <Umbire> or, as you're both discovering, incineration in lava
14:47 <Umbire> The artifacts themselves are generally fireproof, but the corpse not so much, so it might be related to the generation method
14:47 <Umbire> *a corpse
14:47 <K2> what the heck botifico
14:47 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/eb4827a2e793...def9872c371b
14:47 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 def9872 - Remove 'noteleport' flag from the three-tiered demon boss levels.
14:48 <Frozty> *now* you do it.  doesn't help my game ;-)
14:48 <Umbire> I mean, I'm assuming they're fireproof, this is the first this has come up and I never thought to ponder it until now
14:48 <K2> think of the future :P
14:49 <krm26> k2: are you aware displacing npcs will displace through walls if they have nowhere else to go (i.e. bouldered into a corner)
14:50 <K2> hah
14:50 <K2> no but it makes sense
14:51 <K2> i wonder if that's addressed in 3.7
14:51 <krm26> actually quite far too, there was a space just the other side of the wall but he moved quite a bit
14:52 <amateurhour> it's not addressed in 3.7 or any variants afaik
14:52 <amateurhour> it's what's called "mnexto shenanigans"
14:53 <K2> si
14:53 <amateurhour> in theory you can fill astral with acid blobs and figure out a way to mnexto yourself to the right altar
14:53 <amateurhour> in practise just leave that to the TAS...
14:53 <Umbire> BLJ (Blobwards Long Jump)
14:55 <Frozty> Blobwards Long Jump: lol  With a name like that, I want to try it.
14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:69500
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15:03 <K2> o/
15:10 <krm26> i forgot about kathryn and went straight to vecna
15:10 <krm26> vecna is such fun
15:14 <K2> kathryn still asks me periodically if she's killed any heros
15:17 <krm26> first time ever! giant on a flying woolly mammoth!
15:17 <K2> \o/
15:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:70204
15:20 <K2> that was fast
15:20 <K2> what am I supposed to tell mini-me??
15:20 <krm26> tell her she needs to recharm my woolly mammoths from me
15:21 <K2> ooh
15:21 <krm26> oh yeal baby, that's EVILhack
15:21 <K2> >:-)
15:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:48758
15:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:71059
15:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 552 points, T:1134, killed by a wand
15:52 <efot> inanimate object 1, efot 0
15:57 <K2> heh
16:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:71292
16:20 <krm26> that'll help a bit
16:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 bone small shield of telepathy", on T:71453
16:39 <Umbire> imagine an actual shield of telepathy that blocked telepathic attacks
16:40 <krm26> that is a shield FROM telepathy :-)
16:45 <K2> tin foil shield
16:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:71466
16:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:71468
16:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:71468
16:50 <Frozty> >blessed fixed +3 bone small shield of telepathy
16:50 <Frozty> I'll need to learn to up my wish game - my first wish was just blessed +3 crystal plate mail
16:50 <krm26> crystal plate isn't garbage in evil, but i'm not sure i'd normally wish for it unless it was a late-game hole
16:51 <Frozty> i'm learning -- wasn't sure if it's comon or not, and knew i'd want it
16:51 <Frozty> was tired of the leather
16:52 <Frozty> that now plus 2 magic markers -- what should i be thinking of that i'm ot?
16:52 <Frozty> *not?
16:53 <K2> crystal plate is even more valuable now with the advent of dragon scaled armor
16:53 <krm26> !whereis Frozty
16:53 <Hecubus> krm26: Frozty is not playing.
16:53 <krm26> what role?
16:53 <Frozty> yeah, and i was as always thinking silver -- don't have reflection
16:53 <Frozty> but chose yellow instead
16:54 <Frozty> wizard -- can now cast reflection
16:54 <Frozty> i wish there were a way to inspect oneself and know if you "are reflecting"
16:55 <Frozty> i just keep casting it -- hope i don't miss the end message
16:55 <krm26> you can put a stop alert in your rc
16:56 <Frozty> OPK, now explain like i'm 5.
16:56 <Frozty> OK
16:56 <krm26> you can set up things in your config to change the way the interface behaves
16:56 <krm26> like making it stop you when you start turning to stone
16:56 <krm26> take a look at k2's rc, or my rc, to see how it is done
16:56 <Frozty> i'll look. i cpied my setup from someone else ages ago
16:57 <krm26> you can clone a config on hardfought really easily
16:57 <krm26> i'm playing right now, you can inspect my game (us server) and see if you like how my gui looks
16:57 <Frozty> so if i watch your game, i will see your gui?
16:57 <Frozty> not mine?
16:57 <krm26> yeah, you'll see what i see
16:59 <Frozty> i'm in -- now time for a question i've had for awhile
16:59 <Frozty> i see others' games go *really fast*
16:59 <krm26> oh, i'm moving sometimes using _
16:59 <Frozty> are you just playing fast, or is there some buffer i'm running through
17:00 <mobileuser> K2 small detail: it seems the weight of dragon scales is not added to your body armor? I just went from burdened to unburdened after fusing the scales.
17:00 <krm26> i'm playing fast (when i'm not pausing :-)
17:01 <Frozty> i couldn't play that fast if i tried and didn't care what happened
17:02 <mobileuser> Frozty I play very slow myself
17:02 <mobileuser> Always amazed when I see others play like it's arcade
17:02 <Frozty> krm26 did you wish for that ring of p'hul?
17:03 <Frozty> oh shit -- how do you show weight too?  gotta look at your config file
17:03 <krm26> yes, my one artifact wish was the ring of p'hul, the reason for being chaotic :-)
17:05 <Frozty> mobileuser yeah, it's not American Ninja Warrior
17:06 <mobileuser> heh
17:10 <Frozty> i'm off to go watch football
17:13 <K2> mobileuser yeah that's normal behavior
17:13 <K2> enjoy
17:14 <aosdict> I would pay good money for a nethack arcade cabinet
17:14 <aosdict> probably not enough money to cover the cost of making a nethack arcade cabinet, but it would still be good money
17:16 <bhaak> inb4 back pain
17:16 <mobileuser> thx K2 yay freebie!
17:18 <krm26> k2...have you ever seen a spectre make a hole in the ground with a wand of digging while in a wall?
17:18 <krm26> it is wrong
17:20 <krm26> oww! that demon was poking me with angelslayer
17:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed +3 dragonhide striped shirt of telepathy", on T:35359
17:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed KingGizzard's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2564
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17:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:73274
17:34 <K2> krm26 no i've never seen that
17:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Anu, on T:52507
17:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52510
17:37 <krm26> i bet they will do it in solid rock too
17:42 <Umbire> i mean it makes sense to be able to dig down through a wall and into rock
17:42 <Umbire> ...just that normally things aren't in walls
17:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:3473
17:44 <Umbire> That actually reminds me, does digging work while you're phased?
17:44 <Umbire> Or, not phased, stuck in a wall 
17:44 <Umbire> which would require phasing as a possible solution
17:46 <Umbire> lemme wiztest this...
17:48 <Umbire> Yep, absolutely does
17:50 <krm26> ooh, a 5 that doesn't show up on esp, no worries, blindfolded, gonna go smack the eye to death a few times...whack whack...antimmmmmaatterr vorttttex
17:52 <krm26> then after that i sit around for a while naked nurse dancing with a doppleganger :-P
17:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:74229
18:09 <Umbire> Helps to challenge your own assumptions more :B
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18:17 <krm26> ARGH EVERY NPC IS A PRIEST
18:18 <krm26> and a better priest than i am with their summoning and fgjfdkgjfdlg
18:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:75815
18:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 426 points, T:1506, killed by a hobbit pickpocket
18:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:75820
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20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:76785
20:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4589
20:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:77310
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20:32 <arahael> Oh, damn this.
20:32 <arahael> Found a bunch of grey stones in the end of a corridor in mine's end. (Temple).
20:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed love2hack's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:5673
20:33 <Umbire> loadstones don't stack to my recollection
20:34 <krm26> grey stones! how rare and exciting
20:34 <Umbire> or generate in stacks at least
20:34 <krm26> i only find gray stones
20:34 <Pinkbeast> Crawl reasons: english correct
20:34 <krm26> i don't think you can find a stack of anything but flint short of monster shenanigans (dwarf picking up a touchstone after being generated with a touchstone)
20:35 <krm26> but don't quote me on it
20:35 <krm26> if i'm wrong then i heard it from qt
20:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical oval amulet on an altar, on T:5706
20:36 <arahael> Umbire: Hmm, so I have a stack of grey stones, and a grey stone. I guess the single grey stone is a possible loadstone.
20:36 <arahael> Or maybe the grey stone is a luck stone, and the two that did stack are flint stones.  I need to look for more grey stones.
20:37 <arahael> Found another grey stone: NOT a load or luck stone. 
20:37 <Umbire> I mean all grey stones stack, probably even loadstones (but why would you pick up more than one)
20:37 <Umbire> but different ones won't stack with each other
20:37 <krm26> flint stones weight-id as 2 aum instead of 10 aum
20:37 <Umbire> touchstone is trivial to test-ID
20:37 <arahael> Found it: It's a stack of flint stones, plus an unknown grey stone.
20:38 <arahael> krm26: Yes, but you have to pick it up.
20:38 <Umbire> Hobbits also get flint and bullets for slings iirc
20:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5507
20:45 <arahael> ^^ By process of elimination.  There were no other grey stones on the level, therefore, it must have been a luck stone.
21:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:77929
21:07 <krm26> damn, 20 +accuracy eaten and i only ended up with +1
21:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:78164
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22:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8632
22:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:519
22:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 17684 points, T:5957, killed by an owlbear
22:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:10367
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