01:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:10269
01:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:10669
02:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:11216
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02:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed love2hack's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:13485
02:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:13770
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03:11 <hackemslashem> Last night I mostly fixed the scroll of cloning from splice, it wasn't cloning the player (I don't think it worked in splice either)
03:11 <hackemslashem> Now it makes a clone of you (tame/peaceful/hostile) based on BUC, but the only thing missing is matching the race. 
03:12 <mobileuser> slashthem also has that, I think there it only clones you if you are polymorphed? or is that wand of cloning...
03:13 <hackemslashem> That was the problem in splice, it would only work if polymorphed. 
03:13 <mobileuser> that sounds by design
03:14 <mobileuser> ah slashthem has wand of cloning. "Polymorphed players may zap themselves in order to create pets."
03:15 <hackemslashem> I don't think so, it looks more like cloneu() just didn't work to clone a player monster because it was checking if the players polymorphed form had 1 or less HP and immediately exiting. At least in splice I think the intention was to allow that
03:16 <hackemslashem> If you aren't polymorphed that number is ofc 0
03:17 <mobileuser> maybe reading scroll of cloning should create an NPC then?
03:18 <hackemslashem> What's the difference between that and mplayer?
03:18 <mobileuser> there are no "giant" monsters by themselves for example, it's always "giant priest", "giant shopkeeper" etc
03:19 <mobileuser> and how would you clone a demon infidel
03:19 <mobileuser> "demon" is not a monster
03:20 <hackemslashem> It's a race in evilhack though
03:21 <mobileuser> at this point I will have to pass the mike to actual developers :-)
03:21 <hackemslashem> When monster players are created they have a race applied (like elven, giant, etc), along with all their other stuff
03:21 <hackemslashem> It was easier that way because listing every combo in the monster directory would have been really tedious
03:22 <mobileuser> maybe I mean the same thing with NPC, I don't know. The yellow guys. I'm not a developer.
03:28 <hackemslashem> lol all good
03:40 <amateurhour> which mike, stephenson? 
03:40 <amateurhour> he potentially created rnz so i dont want 
03:42 <amateurhour> aw I was hoping the clone would have a copy of your invent too for some major shenanis
03:48 <mobileuser> well, once you have an NPC pet, just kit them out!
03:49 <mobileuser> btw, I suppose monsters can read the scroll too
03:49 <mobileuser> maybe a good thing that invent is not copied then ;-)
03:52 <hackemslashem> splice didn't have monsters able to read it yet, but I think it wouldn't be too hard!
03:53 <hackemslashem> I think the wizardy copies can cast spells too :)
03:56 <mobileuser> in slashthem monsters will zap themselves with a wand of cloning. multiple times =D
03:56 <amateurhour> especially annoying in the guild of disgruntled adventurers
03:57 <amateurhour> oh is that gonna be in hackem?
03:57 <hackemslashem> I have removed the full guild level, but replaced it with special "mini guild" special rooms, so you'll never have to face 40 F23@*#&^@# player monsters at once again
03:58 <hackemslashem> They also have pets mixed in so it's not too dense :)
03:58 <amateurhour> haha imagine what it used to be like in slex
03:58 <amateurhour> back when it was still 2x every role
03:58 <amateurhour> it was "dialled back" to just 1x every role
03:59 <hackemslashem> Yea, I'm thinking no wands of cloning for me, sounds nightmarish
04:01 <amateurhour> Demo had a funny idea for guild of gruntled adventurers where they were all peaceful
04:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased fixed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:20445
06:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:664
06:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a steel helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:21582
06:23 <mobileuser> thank you Moloch!
06:24 <mobileuser> a cursed +5 steel helm of brilliance, ooh yeah
06:40 <mobileuser> TIL sewage can actually freeze. Never noticed that before.
06:51 <krm26> that sounds like a gross discovery
06:51 <krm26> oh, you mean IN game
06:51 <mobileuser> lol
06:52 <mobileuser> weird RNG, third mines sewer level now, no water level yet.
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07:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1520 points, T:3115, killed by a werejackal, while fainted from lack of food
07:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1826 points, T:1700, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food
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09:02 <hackemslashem> Man I've been messing with my grenades/bombs all day, no matter what I do they keep assigning blame to me when a monster throws them.
09:02 <hackemslashem> Anything peaceful around says "I" killed it and I feel guilty. 
09:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:45469
09:06 <hackemslashem> Guess I'll dive into gdb for a while...
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09:27 <mobileuser> hackemslashem that's how I got killed in splicehack black market once
09:28 <hackemslashem> ooph
09:29 <mobileuser> splicehack is supposed to have fixed that?
09:29 <amateurhour> I think its cuz it uses xkilled without checking
09:29 <amateurhour> xkilled doesn't just kill the mon it's the player-killed-the-mon
09:31 <amateurhour> still at work so can't check, that's just what I'm remembering from looking at slashem ages ago
09:33 <hackemslashem> It looks like stuff is in order with mon_moving (if it's the monsters turn or not) in explode(), I can see where xkilled is being used and it makes sense
09:34 <aosdict> is there not a bit on grenades that tracks whether it was the player or someone else who primed it?
09:36 <hackemslashem> Yep, I've tried to keep that in order too
09:37 <hackemslashem> Tried removing all that too and copying how oil explodes, same thing every time
09:56 <hackemslashem> Just tested in splice and they work fine, I'll have to inspect splice further maybe there's something I missed in the explode sode...
10:00 <mobileuser> I know that Kes had a lot of trouble fixing it
10:00 <mobileuser> good to hear it works :-)
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10:04 <K2> i cant stop eating these cheetos. god help me
10:05 <hackemslashem> Don't get satiated K2!
10:06 <K2> but... but they're jalapeno flavored
10:07 <amateurhour> the best part is you can't get satiated on them u can just eat them forever
10:09 <K2> nomnomnom
11:11 <krm26> it is hard finding good jalapeno flavored crap to eat. i love jalapeno kettle chips but they are all sweet or flavorless garbage. k2, push a patch for that
11:12 <K2> sure
11:13 <krm26> man! i don't know what to do with this newfound power where you implement my suggestions
11:14 <krm26> artifact crystal flask -- empty object you can apply on a potion, potion contents transferred to it; functions no differrently than normal potion but unbreakable/damageable so safe to carry in open inventory
11:15 <krm26> returns to empty after you quaff
11:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23252
11:37 <K2> krm26 to make you feel better and not scared/confused - no
11:38 <K2> :P
11:38 <krm26> awww
11:38 <krm26> that didn't take long
11:38 <K2> hahah
11:38 <K2> in all seriousness, that sounds cool
11:38 <K2> could invoke it to fill it up with <something>
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15:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2555
15:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:52680
15:57 <hackemslashem> K2, do you have to create placeholders for new player races or was something you did for shopkeepers?  I'm wondering if I could solve some of my vampire problems by making a "vampiric" placeholder or something 
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16:10 <hackemslashem> hey actually doing that worked!  My vampy ice mage, necros, and wizard don't have the involuntary magic attacks anymore. However, I'll need to remove the extra claw attack now - 3 attacks from the get-go is pretty OP
16:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 stone small shield of drain resistance", on T:54151
16:17 <mobileuser> How can "rodent of unusual size corpse" not always leave a corpse? Picking up one of the corpses actually makes my character Stressed.
16:17 <mobileuser> Even a giant beetle always leaves a corpse.
16:20 <amateurhour> maybe this time the unusual size was small
16:21 <amateurhour> :^)
16:21 <amateurhour> I have no idea how the corpse odds rules work, is it based on size/weight?
16:21 <amateurhour> or is it just a rule of thumb thing
16:22 <mobileuser> good question...
16:22 <mobileuser> size based says the wiki
16:23 <mobileuser> well, it's unusually dense then :-)
16:23 <mobileuser> close to becoming a black hole
16:24 <amateurhour> looks like it's size medium but weighs 600
16:25 <amateurhour> that is unusual
16:25 <mobileuser> so it should be "rodent of unusual weight" :b
16:25 <amateurhour> whereas giant beetles are large but weight 10? what
16:26 <amateurhour> nothing makes sense, immersion ruined, table flipped
16:26 <mobileuser> unplayable
16:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7861
16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) refused to give up The Eye of the Aethiopica to Neferet the Green, on T:22021
16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Neferet the Green, on T:22022
16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Oracle, on T:25650
16:36 <mobileuser> "The Oracle's corpse tastes okay."
16:36 <mobileuser> Hey I was hungry
16:37 <hackemslashem> Nymphs always seemed unusually heavy to me
16:38 <amateurhour> not judging
16:41 <K2> dont call them fat
16:42 <K2> nymph: hey hackemslashem, do these pants make my butt look big? hackemslashem: no, your butt makes your butt look big
16:42 <K2> nymph: <zappy zap wand of death>
16:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 crystal plate mail", on T:4539
16:44 <hackemslashem> Where else they put all that junk but in their trunk?
16:44 <amateurhour> their looty booty 
16:45 <hackemslashem> "You have become quite familiar with your executioner's mace."  - oh that is freakin cool
16:47 <krm26> what is the wishing limit for arrows?
16:48 <krm26> if someone for example wanted to cheese up a bunch of silver aklyXXXXXarrows of shock?
16:48 <krm26> i want to be able to shoot an arrow trap repeatedly with lightning and then get lightning arrows out of it when i disarm it
16:49 <amateurhour> think it's 20 arrows like vanilla but idk if evilhack changed anything with it really
16:49 <krm26> nice, that's 10 aklyses!
16:50 <krm26> that's probably how many i need to fort vecna
16:50 <krm26> hope i have enough forges
16:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:25886
16:57 <mobileuser> I still haven't found a hammer :-(
16:58 <amateurhour> got unlucky in goblin town?
16:58 <mobileuser> and I've got my flail of shock ready to turn into an aklys
16:58 <mobileuser> didn't find a hammer there, did I miss something guaranteed?
16:58 <krm26> i had to go down to medusa to get a hammer this game
16:59 <amateurhour> it's not guaranteed it's like 75% or something in the chest with the novel that explains how to forge
17:00 <amateurhour> ah 65%, and I see it used to be a heavy hammer rather than an ordinary one, but was changed so it could never be mjolnir (rip)
17:03 <mobileuser> ah Ihaven't even looked in the chest
17:03 <mobileuser> can wand of striking break the bars there?
17:04 <mobileuser> anyway, will try tomorrow
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17:07 <amateurhour> not sure but I think so?
17:08 <amateurhour> oh mobi is gone already
17:22 <NetSysFire> yes you can
17:23 <NetSysFire> !tell mobileuser yes you can break all the bars with striking in goblin town
17:23 <Hecubus> I'm on it, NetSysFire.
17:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:39783
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17:40 <rebatela> hello
17:40 <Hecubus> Hello rebatela, Welcome to #evilhack
17:49 <rebatela> ok i got the titan to -33 ac and +5 frost brand. Now I just need to find/make a leash before rodney returns! 
17:49 <rebatela> i can't remember last time i've used one. do they really work with H? 
18:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:21625
18:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 100957 points, T:41624, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster
18:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:22292
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18:43 <krm26> leashes? don't see why they wouldn't
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19:18 <rebatela> well, because logisitcally i don't see why a non-magical item like a leash should be able to restrain a titan. But why do titans exist in the first place?
19:18 <rebatela> what's that acronym? ninrl or something
19:18 <rebatela> nhiNOTrl
19:19 <rebatela> i had two completely kitted out (like this one is beocming) and just stepped one of the portals when it wasn't next to me. I'm gonna at least try to get a leash first now that i know it works! 
19:20 <rebatela> homegirl is more ready than me! I love that they cast reflection and heal themselves etc. don't need to feed. it's really the perfect pet 
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19:38 <Frozty> Is K2 here?
19:39 <Frozty> I created/received an error in my game, and haven't closed it yet.  Can give you the details before I do if that will help.
19:40 <Frozty> "dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Dlvl:27"
19:41 <Frozty> Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)
19:41 <Frozty> I've got a screenshot too.
19:46 <Frozty> I guess I can add some details too. I am in the Valley, at the altar. Ready for the first time to go meet Cerberus.  I have Detect Monster cast, and can see a cockatrice on the other side of the door.  Krakens in the water too. I waited for the 'trice to get behind the door and blew it open with a wand of striking. The force knocked the 'trice
19:46 <Frozty> back into the water, presumably drowning it.  Then the error.
20:03 <Frozty> Minor correction: I suppose my Detect Monster has worn off. I have Telepathy from The Eye.
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20:16 <krm26> oooh striking knockback bug
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20:19 <Frozty> is that a known thing?
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20:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6836
20:45 <K2> heya Frozty
20:45 <K2> thanks for the bug report
20:46 <K2> makes sense - knockback probably killed the cockatrice, but being knocked back into the water drowning it killed it twice
20:46 <K2> hence the error
20:47 <K2> you should be able to continue without any issue Frozty
20:47 <Frozty> cool! makes sense.  understanding is nice!
20:49 <K2> added to the bug tracker
21:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:23012
21:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:23020
22:16 <arahael> What is the weight unit used by evilhack?
22:16 <arahael> I'm too heavy by... 76...
22:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:9641
23:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4616
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23:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4381 points, T:5245, killed by a bolt of lightning