00:09 I wonder if you or bhaak'll ever add a Glamdring 00:38 Also wondering if there'll be a special message for carrying Orcrist into Goblin Town 00:38 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:43620 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1236 points, T:2454, poisoned by a giant mosquito 02:08 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:696 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2780 points, T:1789, poisoned by a rabid dog 02:27 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class a), on T:3449 02:57 PhantomLumina: what would Glamdring add? it's just another sword, isn't it? or should it be a two-handed sword artifact? 02:59 I was more thinking out loud 02:59 but if you want I could sketch up something "serious" 02:59 two-handed sword would be cool though, yeah 03:04 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4453 03:24 Thiefbane is already two-handed. not easily available though :) 03:27 twohanders still need reb! 03:27 rep* even 03:30 not sure nethack is that inclusive :) 04:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:28 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a ring mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:11670 05:58 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 205 points, T:725, killed by a dart 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1229 06:52 bhaak: not only just another sword, but just another sword that has a ho-hum versus orcs bonus 06:55 see I was thinking of making it more than just that, is the other thing 07:23 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:43 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a copper long sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:45913 07:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a helmet entrusted to him by Mog, on T:46546 08:42 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una), 620 points, T:1121, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una), 716 points, T:1036, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 09:06 [backscroll] i dont think adding glamdring would bring any real value to the game 09:06 if anything, another weapon or armor type artiact would make more sense 09:08 the value is cool sword gimme gimme 09:09 add ALL THE ARTIFACTS 09:09 dooooo itttttttt 09:10 omg ok 09:10 ... done 09:10 wow that was fast 09:10 wtf i love evilhack now 09:10 i have an 'add all the things' button on my kboard 09:11 monkey's paw curls, what the button actually did was overwrite it with slex 09:12 hey now 09:12 i thought we were friends 09:12 i forget, didn't gandalf take glamdring back with him to the undying lands? shouldn't be in nethack then 09:12 krm26: was it ever seen after he fought the balrog 09:12 not like gollum, who probably swam here from the lava of mt doom 09:13 yeah, he waved glamdring around a lot at gondor 09:13 why does it matter what happened to it in lotr lore 09:14 yeah I mean in lotr lore orcrist still rests in a tomb or something 09:14 lotr lore ALWAYS MATTERS 09:14 what is wrong with you guys 09:14 * K2 gives frodo a lightsaber 09:14 and sting wasn't just yolo named by anyone it was already named by 1 dude 09:15 well it was yolo named by one dude 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1308 points, T:1851, killed by a copper shuriken 09:17 did anyone here play the lotr gameboy advance games? they were like diablo 09:18 the two towers and return of the king at least, the fellowship of the ring was just bad 09:23 i didnt. i never had a gameboy 09:24 gameboy? that's almost like asking if someone has a twitter account. all you babies! 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3308 09:29 sorry im not one of the olds :( 09:29 just you wait 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1394 09:49 goblin king with a wand of death 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 4634 points, T:4875, killed by a death ray 09:50 damn 09:51 what a dick 10:02 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una), 8732 points, T:3729, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3728 11:17 Mmmh 11:18 would a giant with str 17 be able to kick a loadstone very far? 11:19 oh as infidel I don't have to worry about loadstones anyway I think... 11:20 K2 what does "Giants can ID touchstones" mean on the wiki? 11:21 can a giant use an uncursed touchstone like an archeologist? 11:33 yeah 11:33 like an arc or gnome 11:33 can see it in src/apply.c:2706 or so 11:40 thx amateurhour! 11:49 \o/ 11:56 -!- Frozty has joined #evilhack 12:14 Quest Leader question: Since I've gravely abused my alignment, I'll need to "defeat" my quest leader. Do I have to kill her myself, or does she just need to die (i.e., can a pet do it for me, and then have my Quest marked as "complete" and the Bell "un-curse" when she dies)? 12:30 I was about to start answering this question for vanilla and then realized I don't know the answer in evilhack 12:31 I asked about Murder and Smiting on reddit, figured it'd be the same for EvilHack. This is new functionality for EvilHack as I understand it. 12:32 if it were vanilla I would say "recovering the alignment abuse should be fairly easy" 12:36 I believe it doesn't matter if a pet does it in evilhack 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 192156 points, T:49537, petrified by a beholder 12:49 aosdict in evilhack it has a separate align abuse tracker that never decreases 12:50 if a pet kills the quest leader for you, that should count 12:51 HAHAHA "Hecubus zaps itself with a spiked wand!" 12:51 little bastard 12:51 heh 12:51 give that wand to me silly pet! 12:52 tame rock mole called Hecubus 12:52 classic 12:53 "Hecubus digs in." 12:53 what is going on :b 12:53 [if a pet kills the quest leader for you, that should count] If it doesn't, that would leave you with an unwinnable game, wouldn't it? 12:54 probably 12:55 but in this case should be fine 12:55 amateurhour: I knew that but I didn't know enough to advise re: who kills the quest leader 12:55 mobileuser - 'digs in' means its eating 12:55 it is a pun 12:55 ah! 12:57 I wonder if it ate one of the wands in the wand shop 12:57 well, not much use for stealing anymore, will have to find moar money to get those wands 12:58 K2: I wonder if "digs in" is a purely american idiom 12:58 Frozty i'll verify that for ya real quick 12:58 aosdict perhaps. not sure 12:58 i've always known what it means 13:00 I'm not a native speaker, but I think it's pretty common in the UK as well 13:02 ok verified - if your pet kills the quest leader, it can count as quest being completed 13:03 i unleashed 'woolly rain' on the Norn 13:05 ^ Frozty 13:05 ok mobileuser, grant me your blessing. i'm going to do the dishes 13:17 How do you direct a message at someone here in IRC, like K2 just did to/for me? 13:19 I thought i'd test whether a god will strike/smite you for killing your quest leader in wizard mode. Holy shit, Neferet is tough! 13:19 Unless K2 sent you a private message, it may be that your IRC client spots your nick and brings messages with it in to your attention - so it's not something K2 did. 13:19 I give myself a 99% chance of dying in my first game to something I'd otherwise be able to anticipate/handle. 13:21 Pinkbeast Yeah, maybe it just hilighted my userID 13:21 That worked 13:24 K2 it seems that will be mostly a moot question. Killing Neferet is going to take some planning. 13:25 A simple pet won't do it. 13:25 Maybe a horde with Conflict thouhgh. 13:25 K2 blessed are the dish doers 13:26 Frozty there is no hurry, I usually wait until I am ascension strength 13:27 Just looked up "woolly rain".  Great minds... 13:27 mobileuser That's what I was thinking, but I would have been woefully unprepared if I hadn't just made that little test. 13:28 yeah, Neferet is pretty tough 13:29 mobileuser thanks 13:29 dishes are done 13:29 \o/ 13:29 \o/ 13:30 wife brought home some sushi, back in a bit :P 13:30 New monster for me: Woolly Mammoth.  Yeah, that's a nice pet. 13:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1798 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 16422 points, T:12216, killed by a vampire bat 13:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3839 points, T:2530, killed by a system shock 13:43 Frozty, giant player race can ride woolly mammoth too 13:43 was inspired by the show 'game of thrones' 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 422 points, T:749, killed by a wooden dart 13:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1798 14:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3003 14:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3613 14:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3742 14:18 lacca[m]: it always turns you lawful 14:21 amateurhour: Thanks:) I am just experimenting with other effects though 14:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 arrows on an altar, on T:3900 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:4244 14:47 nice 15:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:11128 15:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:38 -!- Frozty has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:38 invisible from magic trap, now I can't even buy that darn poly wand! 15:43 remember cursed inv wands! 15:47 ah, thx for reminding me! 15:47 maybe soko will have one and I have unholy water 16:10 a giant's best friend 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:11821 16:31 early blessed crystal plate mail? must be a giant! 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed oilskin sack containing 7 items on an altar, on T:4202 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 3460 points, T:4050, killed by a warg 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Cen Fem Neu), 1530920 points, T:52697, killed by life drainage 17:07 vlad just took me from ~300hp to zero in 1 hit? 17:07 what did I miss? 17:08 !lastgame bouquet 17:08 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1664727521.evil.html 17:08 oh, took me to level 0 17:08 :( 17:08 TIL 17:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:14 lesson learned yet again... don't play endgame while distracted :P 17:17 my only regret is I didn't leave sweet sweet bones 17:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:33 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 18:36 bouquet :( 18:37 D:!? 18:43 D:!? looks like a surprised guy with a funky hairdo 18:43 some sort of pompadour 19:03 D:? looks cleaner 19:04 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:27 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Law), 764 points, T:3021, killed by an arrow 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3154 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 11896 points, T:6004, killed by a blast of frost, while fainted from lack of food 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 396 points, T:1018, killed by a small mimic 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:15182 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1802 points, T:2864, killed by a gnoll 21:00 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3826 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2066 points, T:3833, killed by a giant spider 21:40 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1482 points, T:2285, killed by an imp 21:57 FINALLY! "The vampire transforms into a spider. The vampire methodically grooms its legs with its chelicerae." 21:58 krm26: is that from your game? 21:58 what's the context of that message? 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2723 points, T:2344, killed by a wolf 22:02 just finally got polymorphing/transformations working seamlessly. it is a bit fiddly 22:03 physical properties change but the AI stays the same, so vampire-as-spider remains much more sophisticated in AI than actual-spider-as-spider 22:04 so it is smart enough to understand that it has previously made itself immune to fire and will ignore fire when pathing, whereas spiders will never voluntarily move into fire, etc 22:05 but will refuse to cross running water where a real spider might jump across 22:11 krm26 if you are a spider anatomy expert why didn't you answer my call for spider anatomy experts months ago when I was doing the spider mbodypart PR >:( 22:12 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/710 this one -- I said "any spider anatomy experts here who can tell me if these body parts make sense?" and you stood silent, presumably laughing at me wickedly 22:13 or maybe you did say something and I just forgot, honestly that's entirely possible too 22:13 now that I think about it 22:13 i've been so sick i forgot i have the amulet in my game 22:14 sorry man, i love me some spider body parts 22:15 Here is what I'm using: 22:15 C.MORPHOLOGY: { 22:15 C.HEADS: 1, # Front of cephalothorax. 22:15 C.EYES: 8, 22:15 C.MOUTH: "chelicerae", 22:15 C.BODY: "thorax", # Cephalothorax, abdomen, spinnerets. 22:15 C.ARMS: 2, # Pedipalps. 22:15 C.HANDS: "claw", 22:15 C.GULLET: True, 22:15 C.WAIST: True, # Between cephalothorax and abdomen. 22:15 C.LEGS: 8, 22:15 C.FEET: "tarsus", 22:15 }, 22:16 Some of the specialized body part words only show up in action maps (like pedipalps) rather than being drawn from an anatomy 22:17 Like, "The spider scuttles away and spreads its pedipalps." 22:17 sounds pretty cool 22:17 and I am heartened to see the vocab seems similar to what I came up with 22:18 But I don't recall what body parts nethack cares about? probably just the head? 22:18 some of them like "neck" were tough 22:18 now where the anatomy gets interesting is with the coconut crab body parts 22:18 a lot of arthropods have fascinating and complex mouthparts 22:18 ARM, EYE, FACE, FINGER, FINGERTIP, FOOT, HAND, HANDED, HEAD, LEG, LIGHT_HEADED, NECK, SPINE, TOE, HAIR, BLOOD, LUNG, NOSE, STOMACH is the nethack list 22:19 heh, i bet lung doesn't come up very often for random monsters 22:19 spider book-lungs are neat 22:20 yeah I bet that one is only for "your lungs are burning" or whatever that message is 22:20 for standing in the gas cloud 22:20 of course, some spiders have no book lungs. and some tarantulas have 2 pair! 22:20 really i feel bad for spiders without book lungs, having to breath like BUGS through tubes 22:21 I don't think the "book lung" thing can show up in nethack, since it's only printed if you don't have poison res 22:21 all spider polyforms probably have it 22:22 i hope k2 remembers to add underwater spiders to his new underwater zone 22:23 the cool ones who store air trapped in their little hairs around their bodies 22:23 their sexy sexy arachnid bodies 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4071 points, T:3190, killed by a disenchanter 22:23 geez that is an early disenchanter. genocide gone wrong? 22:24 !lastgame 22:24 rebatela: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1665250940.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dgoddard/evilhack/dumplog/1665280831.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1664853655.evil.html 22:24 lol you called that 22:26 i love how you don't even know it's cursed until the "sent in some x" 22:28 i might be ready to commit this next round 22:28 i'm probably gonna splat this run, but i need to ascend one more time before the whole run through gehennom goes away... One time I stashed like 25 cursed gain levels under a boulder on VS level (this was before I had even ascended evil I think) 22:28 BUT I DIED in the sanctum 22:29 and never got to just quaff my way up 22:29 i think i want to do it again though. i forget how i got the potions. alchemy or polypiling or something 22:31 argh a design problem that requires thought instead of code to fix -- guess that's all i'm doing tonight! 22:31 did your place survive ian?, krm26? you guys ok? 22:32 lost power for about 4 and a half days, had to chainsaw up about 4 cubic yards of trees and brush that came down -- otherwise ok 22:32 i know some people got totally wiped out. really sad 22:32 oh man. so glad to hear that! 22:33 yeah, i'm not coastal, so the biggest danger was really food spoilage if you lost power :-) or being really unlucky with a microburst of higher winds 22:33 places like sanibel island got scrubbed off the map 22:34 (and i cheated this year, i put in a whole-house generator last year -- had power the whole time (although no internet)) 22:34 net year, starlink! 22:39 woop 22:40 although i better get the propane tank refilled next week, since we can easily be hit by another hurricane this season 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 254 points, T:385, killed by a gnome lady 22:48 i feel vaguely nervous quite a bit anyway, rodney 22:50 made it to valley 22:54 if death wand is silver does that mean i don't need to fooproof? 22:54 teleport is forked so i need to proof them right? 22:54 they'll burn or become unforked or something? 22:55 i wish i could teleport things (or myself) with a fork IRL 22:58 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±29] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e5af2040edd0...725676b87cda 22:58 [EvilHack] k21971 725676b - Sanctum/ascension run revamp: part 2 (Track Lucifer alive/dead status, foundation for Purgatory levels). 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a jaguar corpse, on T:6715 23:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05 early dragonhide cloak? must be a giant! 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7567 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9432 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3468 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Cen Fem Neu), 1570 points, T:2297, killed by a jaguar 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:12284 23:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:13137 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth low boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:13507 23:57 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 3002 points, T:4548, killed by the Goblin King