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00:39 <PhantomLumina> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Orcus
00:40 <PhantomLumina> fishing for suggestions re: vanilla stuff before I add Evil and other variants
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06:45 <hackemslashem> hello!
06:45 <Hecubus> Hello hackemslashem, Welcome to #evilhack
06:45 <PhantomLumina> 'lo
06:45 <PhantomLumina> what's up
06:46 <hackemslashem> Just cleaning up crap from importing splice today 
06:46 <PhantomLumina> Oh?
06:47 <amateurhour> Hello hackemslashem, Welcome to #evilhack
06:47 <hackemslashem> I really want those bloody floors and grass now :D
06:47 <hackemslashem> I also just found a long critique aosdist of splicehack from 5 years ago, interesting reae
06:47 <hackemslashem> *read
06:48 <amateurhour> cool I'd like to read that
06:48 <PhantomLumina> meanwhile I'm dying to orcus
06:48 <PhantomLumina> ('s article)
06:48 <hackemslashem> https://gist.github.com/copperwater/9aab1388d82d7258ee5d9e45553a2289
06:49 <amateurhour> skimreading it it's outdated compared to what survived/added in rewrite, which is understandable
06:50 <PhantomLumina> Demon lords can still gate others in SLASH'EM and the like, yeah?
06:50 <amateurhour> splicehack needs more time and attention because it's pretty buggy and unbalanced but has a lot of potential
06:50 <hackemslashem> Yea it looked like it was pre-rewrite for sure
06:50 <PhantomLumina> because I remember getting the Orcus/Demo wombo on my parked Firefighter
06:50 <PhantomLumina> amateurhour: Agree
06:51 <hackemslashem> I ported in the sonic stuff, but not the psychic, flayers get all the psychic glory here
06:52 <amateurhour> lots of low hanging bugs that need picking, like monsters hitting themselves with cursed weapons crashes
06:53 <amateurhour> monster steeds biggest offender for bugs
06:54 <hackemslashem> Oh yea - I hate that, I think I'm going back to the default cursed weapon behavior 
06:55 <hackemslashem> Had a crash with Doom blade hitting myself the other day :p
06:55 <PhantomLumina> https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Orcus&diff=148694&oldid=148693
06:56 <hackemslashem> In evil it's trivial to dissolve a weapon anyway
07:01 <amateurhour> did you say you were gonna stream playing through current hackem for bug hunting or something?
07:06 <hackemslashem> Yes - I said tomorrow, but now it turned into a family thing, so maybe tonight instead
07:08 <PhantomLumina> Best of luck with that
07:08 <PhantomLumina> me meanwhile I'm just gonna 
07:08 * PhantomLumina flops over, dies
07:08 <hackemslashem> rip
07:08 <hackemslashem> PhantomLumina/Umbire, died of exhaustion caused by wiki
07:10 <PhantomLumina> more that my brain's just frying in general bc it's sleep time
07:10 <PhantomLumina> did all I could do re: Orcus and Demo for now
07:11 <PhantomLumina> next is probably a section on dnh!Demogorgon then a check to see what I missed for Orcus
07:11 <hackemslashem> You're doing Moloch's work
07:12 <amateurhour> nice hackem I'll probs tune in to shitpost^W hang out
07:14 <hackemslashem> Depends on how my little one is feeling tonight really - just me tonight so my fate is up to her!
07:19 <PhantomLumina> later folks
07:19 <PhantomLumina> o/
07:19 <amateurhour> sleep well
07:19 <nabru> 'night
07:22 <hackemslashem> later!
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07:53 <K2> hi
07:53 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
07:53 * K2 pets Hecubus
08:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 293 points, T:466, killed by a gas cloud
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10:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3676
10:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1947 points, T:3565, killed by a tapered wooden stake
10:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6512
10:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:6522
10:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:6854
10:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:6900
10:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1414 points, T:2639, killed by a giant spider
10:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18870 points, T:9123, killed by a mumak
11:02 <krm26> oh god this math is so complex i'm going to play a game of evilhack
11:03 <K2> :)
11:03 <K2> math getting you down? play evilhack
11:04 <krm26> man it is basically either priest or tortle for the remaining first ascensions :-)
11:05 <K2> i think i may add centaur infidel combo in next version
11:05 <krm26> that doesn't help me! I'm an infidel failure
11:05 <krm26> i got tortle before infidel
11:06 <krm26> my last one i think mighta been good but i killed myself by taking a month away and forgetting everything about the game
11:07 <K2> are you finished with your project?
11:07 <krm26> no sir
11:07 <krm26> i've gotten bogged down in climate modeling
11:07 <krm26> i'm escaping that math right now
11:11 <krm26> but the fundamentals of the reimplementaiton are there, i have a rock-solid curses gui layer, got my sample morphs engaging in all their weird-ass ai behavior, got my wildfires sweeping through, finished the ontology and qualia stuff -- got a ton of data porting over to the new cooler model, and then climate/ecosystem modeling stuff.
11:11 <krm26> i'd say i'm at a solid 50% complete-to-alpha
11:12 <krm26> not having any more architectural restrictions on the engine is both good and bad of course
11:15 <krm26> k2: every chaotic race should be able to be convict
11:16 <amateurhour> innocent ppl can be convicted too
11:16 <amateurhour> therefore ever1 should be convict
11:17 <krm26> you sound like one o them there libral commie pinko pre-verts
11:17 <qt> the yendorian justice system has the lowest false conviction rate in the world
11:18 <bouquet> krm26: can you model away the smoke in the PNW, please?
11:19 <krm26> i am actually sucking the smoke INTO the game engine
11:19 <krm26> although not from the PNW, the only ecozone i'm working with right now is the temperate kauri rainforest on the tip of the north island of new zealand
11:19 <qt> naturally
11:20 <krm26> of my 10 targets, one is listed as "nonspecific Seattlish area", so i may get there eventually
11:21 <K2> doesnt work for giant. heavy iron ball isnt really a deterrent
11:22 <K2> same for centaur
11:22 <bouquet> may I ask what software you do modeling on?  I'm deploying elasticsearch ML clusters and it looks like they're trying to get in on some climate modeling action
11:22 <krm26> one heavy iron ball per limb!
11:22 <amateurhour> giant straitjacket copypasta'd from dnh
11:22 <krm26> oh hah, i'm not doing *real* modeling -- i'm doing shit modeling sufficient for the purposes of an ancient game of mine i'm forward-porting
11:23 <bouquet> cool. Will it run on a digital pregnancy test?
11:23 <krm26> ...maaayyyyybe?
11:25 <krm26> do you have a lot of those?
11:25 <bouquet> ya. what do you think the ML cluster is running on?!
11:34 <krm26> decades after the fact i finally learn that you can tin and eat zombies
11:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 1268 points, T:2031, killed by the Goblin King
11:38 <K2> :)
11:39 <krm26> back to "work"!
11:39 <K2> hahah
11:39 <K2> i'm working on work stuff and evilhack at same time
11:39 <K2> and a lil splash of tnnt discussion
11:39 <krm26> gonna be a new role with failover redundancy and uptime guarantees?
11:40 <K2> heh
11:48 <krm26> gotta uglify my color scheme more: https://imgur.com/a/xGlOcsB
11:50 <amateurhour> Monad
11:55 <krm26> yeah i'm hard to work with, i like brief unambiguous code labels. morphs (abstract monsters) are reified into monads (concrete monsters). none of that is user-language tho
11:56 <amateurhour> do they satisfy the monad laws in some way
11:57 <krm26> they are a monad in the liebnizian sense
11:58 <amateurhour> ah okay, fair enough
11:58 <krm26> i tend to rely on ultimate greek roots
12:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 184 points, T:666, killed by a water demon
12:31 <hackemslashem> Alright, streaming hackem in a few minutes! 
12:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 563 points, T:1388, killed by a bugbear
12:41 <hackemslashem> 20 minutes to be precise
12:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 739 points, T:1757, zombified by a gnome zombie
12:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 darts on an altar, on T:3627
12:57 <K2> neat krm26
13:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4084
13:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4788 points, T:5080, killed by a little dog
13:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Kni Dwa Mal Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:3998
13:09 <K2> ooh that's lucky
13:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 1670 points, T:1995, killed by a gnomish wizard, while praying
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13:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 1871 points, T:4874, quit
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2466
13:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 113 points, T:508, killed by a fox
13:45 <mobileuser> heh hackemslashem livestream
13:45 <mobileuser> I ascended as vampire mage once, good luck with involuntary casting ;-)
13:49 <mobileuser> hackemslashem you can loot pets already
13:50 <mobileuser> I don't have a twitch account :b
13:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 823 points, T:2168, killed by a giant spider, while being terrified of a ghost
13:52 <mobileuser> yeah you are casting monster spells, but you don't always have enough energy
13:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3812
13:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:4000
14:00 <K2> hackemslashem you announce a livestream but dont provide a link? wtf
14:00 <hackemslashem> okok - https://dashboard.twitch.tv/u/hackemslashem
14:01 <K2> hackemslashem btw, its peak leaf season here now, and this year its absolutely beautiful
14:01 <K2> i mean its always nice, but this year its reall ynice
14:01 <cbus> hackemslashem, can fire mages read ?oFire? (seems my twitch chat does not work)
14:01 <K2> oooh yeah I block twitch at work
14:01 <K2> hah
14:01 <cbus> my chat messages just dont seem to go through
14:02 <cbus> have had it on multiple channels now so I dunno
14:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7134
14:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 125 points, T:880, killed by a sling bullet
14:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1824 points, T:2109, killed by a gnome lord
14:26 <K2> "You have entered Purgatory."
14:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a leather cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1256
14:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 715 points, T:1907, killed by a giant spider, while being terrified of a ghost
14:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:2246
14:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 794 points, T:3632, poisoned by an orcish dagger
14:47 <qt> hackemslashem: what's that link
14:48 <qt> i clicked on it but it says "Access Denied: you do not have permissions to view this page"
14:48 <hackemslashem> Streaming hackem now :)
14:48 <hackemslashem> Oh.
14:48 <qt> https://www.twitch.tv/hackemslashem i guess this is the correct link.
14:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 45146 points, T:11307, killed by an air elemental
14:51 <qt> hackemslashem: I forgot you were American, I keep thinking you're European
14:56 <K2> what a slap in the face
14:56 <K2> damn qt that's harsh :P
14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1564
15:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2102 points, T:1847, killed by a hobbit zombie, while praying
15:12 <hackemslashem> I'm both now I guess :P
15:13 <hackemslashem> Well, found some stuff to fix so mission accomplished. I broke zombie bites yay! \o/
15:15 <K2> :)
15:15 <K2> broke them on purpose?
15:30 <hackemslashem> no, I'm not sure how yet
15:33 <hackemslashem> Probably something with the tinfoil hat
15:44 <mobileuser> K2 "This coral ring will not silence someone of your stature." but no autoidentify on the ring, that would be nice
15:44 <qt> hackemslashem: oh do you live in Europe now?
15:44 <qt> I guess that's what I was remembering
15:45 <qt> i would expect it to not print a message at all, if it does nothing
15:45 <qt> re: "the coral ring will not silence you"
15:46 <qt> unless it's something like 'your movements are slightly muffled, but due to your size, not enough to matter' -- in which case yeah it'd make sense for it to autoid i guess
15:56 <hackemslashem> qt: Yep
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16:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4 points, T:20, killed by a system shock
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1317
16:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:8708
16:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3591 points, T:3657, poisoned by an orcish arrow
16:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1085
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17:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8942 points, T:4813, petrified by a chickatrice corpse
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17:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5369
17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 4134 points, T:5648, killed by a wand, while moving through the air
17:12 <krm26> i still find that a weird death log, especially so for a giant standing on the ground :-)
17:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1723
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17:27 <Umbire> 'lo
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17:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5408
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18:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 11848 points, T:6364, killed by an elven watch captain
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18:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5059
18:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:1432
18:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:2252
18:34 <K2> that's some nice early sac gifts
18:34 <PhantomLumina> very
18:34 <PhantomLumina> also hi K2 
18:34 <K2> hi
18:34 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
18:35 <PhantomLumina> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Orcus#EvilHack how's this loook
18:36 <K2> good except for the very first sentence
18:36 <K2> one sec
18:37 <PhantomLumina> I checked the EvilHack page for that
18:38 <K2> i see that, but it never states exactly when orcus appears
18:38 <PhantomLumina> yeah, I probably assumed
18:38 <K2> 'Orcus is guaranteed to be the first of the four demon lords and princes' <--- not rue, he's never the first
18:38 <K2> *true
18:39 <K2> so the way it typically goes is this
18:39 <PhantomLumina> "The player is guaranteed to encounter four demon bosses (Orcus plus three others)."
18:39 <K2> hella (first tier demon lord level), hellb (2nd tier), orcus town, hellc (3rd tier with a demon prince)
18:39 <PhantomLumina> just assumed based on how I parsed that sentence
18:39 <K2> yes that statement is true
18:39 <K2> but it doesnt denote in what order
18:40 <PhantomLumina> yes, which is the problem I just highlighted
18:40 <PhantomLumina> I do appreciate the explanation though, genuinely
18:40 <PhantomLumina> but is he always third?
18:40 <K2> typically yes
18:40 <K2> but i think it possible he could squeeze in between hella and hellb
18:41 <PhantomLumina> 👍
18:41 <K2> quick test loading game ten different times, it was hella -> hellb -> orcus town -> hellc
18:41 <K2> and orcus town could be before or after the wiz tower
18:42 <PhantomLumina> Right
18:42 <PhantomLumina> so you're still sure it's possible (but rare) orcus could be second
18:44 <PhantomLumina> In [[EvilHack]], Orcus is always among the four demon lords and princes whose lair you encounter in Gehennom; the other three are chosen from a three-tier pool of lairs. Orcus-Town is most likely to the third demon ruler lair in order of appearance. <-- assuming that to be true would this be acceptable?
18:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3533
18:45 <K2> yeah
18:46 <PhantomLumina> alright, add a dropped "be", look it over a couple more
18:46 <K2> k
18:46 <K2> switching gears - i think you all are going to like the ascrun revamp
18:47 <K2> i havent committed what i'm working on yet, but it'll go something like this:
18:47 <PhantomLumina> Oh yeah, the thing about the Wand
18:47 <K2> dungeon -> gehennom -> sanctum -> purgatory (only 2 levels) -> exit on oracle level -> planes
18:48 <PhantomLumina> player demons can't pick it up ever, right?
18:48 <K2> no they cant
18:48 <PhantomLumina> huh, changed it from the Quest I see
18:48 <PhantomLumina> (to be clear I mean like, crowned infidels, though the answer's likely the same for that)
18:48 <K2> yeah the way portals work, i cant set the exit in a quest level
18:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a staff of divination entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:4263
18:48 <K2> or maybe i can and dont know how
18:49 <PhantomLumina> could set it on the level below the quest portal in theory, but then you'd have to assume Ludios or something else isn't there
18:49 <K2> yeah the only way for a player to be a 'player demon' is to be an infidel and get crowned
18:49 <K2> i dont think i can set it for a random level
18:49 <PhantomLumina> I figured you'd assume polyself
18:49 <K2> you have to specify a level for a portal exit
18:50 <PhantomLumina> hmm
18:50 <PhantomLumina> oracle is probably the most logical in that regard
18:50 <K2> yup
18:50 <K2> knox isnt guaranteed, neither is big room
18:51 <K2> or nymph level
18:52 <K2> hmm i just had a thought
18:52 <K2> hrm
18:52 <PhantomLumina> ?
18:52 <K2> i dunno yet
18:53 <K2> but yeah, ascrun is going to be a LOT less tedious
18:53 <PhantomLumina> sounds good
18:53 <K2> gonna be hard though :)
18:54 <PhantomLumina> https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Orcus&diff=148700&oldid=148698
18:54 <K2> yeah. i dont think orcus town has a hyphen though does it?
18:55 <K2> oh i guess it does
18:55 <PhantomLumina> yeah
19:01 <PhantomLumina> now for Demogorgon
19:02 <K2> hahah shit
19:02 <K2> a crowned infidel can wield the wand of orcus
19:03 <PhantomLumina> thought so :3
19:04 <PhantomLumina> while reading up on the big guy I learned it's often left in the Realms to tempt some mortal fool into wielding it
19:05 <PhantomLumina> ultimately your call if you intended for this or not though
19:05 <K2> its not intended
19:05 <K2> but
19:05 <K2> i cant remember if i allowed it whilst in wizmode
19:07 <K2> hahah yeah I did
19:07 <K2> you can wield it in wizmode
19:07 <K2> in a normal game you cant even pick it up
19:07 <K2> whew
19:07 <K2> for a sec there i thought i messed that up
19:08 <PhantomLumina> lmao
19:08 <PhantomLumina> you should allow it and code a Tenebrous ending or something
19:08 <PhantomLumina> that'd be hilarious
19:08 <K2> sounds like a 'gotcha'
19:08 <PhantomLumina> probably not happening but funny to think about
19:08 <K2> yeah
19:09 <PhantomLumina> oh not a "gotcha", more of a neat lore thingy to reward you for being ballsy enough to even try
19:09 <PhantomLumina> bc I'm not saying like instakilling the second you try to lift it
19:09 <PhantomLumina> more like an alternate ascension ending?
19:09 <K2> hmm
19:11 <PhantomLumina> again this is mostly something funny off the top of my head 
19:17 <K2> gave me an idea though
19:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:7219
19:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una), 8226 points, T:7245, killed by a warg
19:21 <PhantomLumina> :>
19:31 <K2> oh neat, i can do purgatory exit in soko instead
19:32 <PhantomLumina> wew
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20:01 <K2> food time
20:01 <K2> hiya hackemslashem
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20:02 <PhantomLumina> 'lo
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20:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7287
20:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:14148
20:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14150
20:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10801 points, T:8441, poisoned by an orcish arrow
21:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 71 points, T:268, killed by a nalfeshnee
21:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6028
21:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6032
21:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:10535
21:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7006
22:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:7926
22:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (monks), on T:8086
22:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 15410 points, T:8108, killed by genocidal confusion
22:16 <bouquet> hi hackemslashem 
22:16 <bouquet> Just picked up on the thread that you're pulling in some slash'em flavor to evilhack.
22:16 <hackemslashem> heey, I should be asleep, but I woke up and couldn't fall back :
22:17 <bouquet> propophol will fix that for you
22:17 <hackemslashem> Yep!  Fixing bugs I found last night :)
22:17 <PhantomLumina> 'lo bouquet 
22:17 <bouquet> PhantomLumina: is that Umbire in disguise?
22:17 <PhantomLumina> it is halloween
22:18 <bouquet> not by my calendar
22:18 <PhantomLumina> it's the season! >:c
22:18 <bouquet> fair
22:19 <hackemslashem> There's a strange ice room that generates, it's not a "themed room", so I'm not sure where it is
22:19 <bouquet> hackemslashem: well, it compiles on my dev box so that's good news.
22:19 <hackemslashem> It's not in vaults.des, very strange...
22:19 <hackemslashem> Oh that's great, wait til the morning to play - fixed a nasty bug in zombie bites 
22:19 <bouquet> Just testing.
22:19 <hackemslashem> Otherwise you won't get far
22:20 <hackemslashem> My favorite bug so far... Is that Vampire Ice Mages start as Vampire Mages somehow
22:20 <PhantomLumina> wew
22:21 <hackemslashem> No idea but it must be a title parsing thing
22:21 <bouquet> I'll find the really obnoxious corner cases for you.  
22:21 <qt> hackemslashem: not the "lava/ice/pool/tree/fountain room"?
22:21 <qt> vlt-0001
22:22 <bouquet> I think I drove Kes/AntiGulp to madness.
22:23 <hackemslashem> Nope - I've put the minlevel for most of the themed rooms to ~8 or so, so almost nothing out of the norm should show up before level 5
22:24 <hackemslashem> That's great, testing is very helpful!
22:25 <hackemslashem> Just pushed up most recent fixes so that should help
22:25 <hackemslashem> I looked around for "SWAMP" to see if ice rooms were parallel, but no luck there
22:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:13630
22:52 <PhantomLumina> K2: Does Demogorgon generate with anything special
23:02 <hackemslashem> Nothing in makemon so I would say no
23:07 <PhantomLumina> right
23:07 <PhantomLumina> was gonna solicit y'alls strategies for handling him but I think I've done enough wiki stuff for the day
23:09 <K2> no demogorgon doesnt spawn with anything special. he's evil enough as it is
23:10 <PhantomLumina> seemed very slightly nerfed in fact
23:10 <PhantomLumina> (only base EXP but still)
23:10 <K2> um no?
23:10 <PhantomLumina> :B
23:10 <K2> @v?demogorgon
23:10 <Hecubus> Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -8 | Attacks: 8d6 cast spell, 1d4 sting level drain, 1d6 claw disease, 1d6 claw disease | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible, silverhating
23:10 <K2> ^ vanilla
23:10 <K2> @e?demogorgon
23:10 <Hecubus> Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 95 | Generates: unique | AC: -8 | Attacks: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible, silverhating
23:10 <PhantomLumina> I said base EXP!!!
23:10 <PhantomLumina> as a joke!
23:11 <K2> weird
23:11 <K2> i buffed him a bit actually
23:11 <PhantomLumina> the nhtohtml you gave me a while back has 3203
23:11 <PhantomLumina> vanilla is 3297
23:11 <PhantomLumina> likely changed since then