01:08 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:7542 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 10194 points, T:7698, zombified by an elf zombie 02:17 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 02:20 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:24 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:33 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:12 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1362 points, T:1844, killed by a soldier ant 05:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:45282 05:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +3 silver spetum of fire", on T:899 05:32 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 536 points, T:1442, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 05:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:46143 05:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46240 05:49 Hmm. 144913 gold pieces. 05:51 It seems most of my donations are "deeply appreciated". :( Perhaps I already have protection afterall 05:53 you can get more than 9...It's just that the odds keep going down 05:54 although, it might be worth hanging onto it for if/when you lose it again... \ 05:54 I still have another two priests in the game. :D 05:54 I now have AC:-19, that's... Tolerable. 05:55 Currently looking for a stetho. 05:55 having such a weird game.. i'm in gehennom but i've only found one digging wand so far... no flying amulet. no mapping spell 05:56 And pondering if I should wear reflection... Or silver small shield. 05:56 Graz'zt is a Capital-P-Problem. 05:56 yeah i collect garbage tools even in the early game so i can poly for stetho if i don't find one 05:56 That's another good idea, but there's a stetho somewhere. 05:57 Oooh, an unlocked chest. with a wand of invis... That gives an idea... Can demon lords see you if you're invisible? 05:57 it's not magical so it's easy to get because so many candles and tin openers etc. can turn into one 05:57 Oh, nice! 05:58 it's probably the best non-magical tool 05:58 Definitely. 05:58 It's super useful. 05:58 but yeah sometimes you don't find one and yeah it's extremely useful 05:58 especially since you get that free turn each time 05:59 Indeed, and it's super important with Graz'zt I think because it's so hard to hit him. 05:59 Need to figure out the best way to attack him. 06:00 He has reflection and MR. 06:00 i told you what i did... 06:00 if you try to melee he's gonna steal your shit again. i mean, you can get lucky but 06:01 I intend to make a massive boulder fort too. 06:01 you'll want to fill your inventory with all sorts of crap hoping he steals that stuff if you do end up meleeing 06:01 I have 5 scrolls of earth. And a whole bunch of gems. 06:01 But... If he has MR and reflection, I had better hope the shuriken is enough. 06:01 if you sacrifice enough monks will get stacks of enchanted shuriken... although I'm not sure if it's only when you have the weaponless conduct going 06:01 I have like 35 - not silver, though. 06:02 It's only when you have weaponless. 06:02 they don't have to be silver just enchant to +7 or whatever 06:02 THough I think there's still a chance, but it's very low. 06:02 I've got +7. 06:02 yeah i feel like i've gotten them after breaking conduct 06:02 i have a bunch in this game and i think i broke the conduct pretty early. I honestly don't remember tho 06:03 There's a chance, yeah. 06:03 Just unlikely - but if you have weaponless and you would otherwise get a weapon, you'll get shuriken. 06:03 it's worth taking the time to prepare. I mean, I don't know how patient you are but i'd hate to see you die there 06:04 I've already tried to fight him twice. 06:04 yeah.. i still get ogresmasher and trollsbane and all sorts of crap even when I have the conduct going 06:04 kind of annoying 06:04 I'm not sure about the wand of cancellation, I'll probably leave it aside actually. Would hate him tos teal it and then use it on me. 06:04 Those are artifacts. 06:04 i know 06:04 If you'd get an artifact, you'll still get a random artifact. 06:05 Damn. 06:05 Well, that was a good game. 06:05 it's lame if you have 60k turns and weaponless and you're getting garbage "artifact" weapons 06:05 oh no what happened 06:06 Encountered an NPC that just happens to have touch of death. 06:06 Yeah, I should've had MR and reflection on, but I was wanting to cast, so had to robe on, and I needed to fly over lava... 06:06 I should've been more careufl. 06:07 oh man 06:07 RIP dude sorry 06:08 I want it to be on the record that I fought Graz'zt twice and survived. 06:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2571088 points, T:67399, killed by a touch of death 06:09 heh. well now you know at least... you realy can't stand there and "fight" him 06:09 i mean, he took all your stuff right? 06:10 Indeed, but this time I would have been prepared anyway. 06:10 right 06:10 !lastgame 06:10 rebatela: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1664374013.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1664529483.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1664061812.evil.html 06:10 Like, I was getting kitted out all in silver, plenty of shuriken, plenty of contingencies. And earth. 06:11 It's amazing fast you get used to slotless reflection and MR, though. (Ie, from the artifacts, which he stole) 06:11 for sure 06:12 back in the day EotA was slotless MR 06:12 i mean, it confered just carrying 06:12 the way it gives PW carrying 06:12 Ooh, nice. But still, that's a slot you rarely end up using anyway. 06:13 amulet? 06:13 Oh, no, the other eye! 06:13 eye of the aethiopica you only have to carry (in 3.4.3) 06:14 good game though man! 06:14 Nice. 06:14 Yeah, I enjoyed it. 06:14 gratz is a fucking buzz kill 06:14 He's way too tough, but next time I need to shuriken him properly. 06:15 i didn't know what to do either. i splatted a few times there and then started doing the shuriken thing... how did you get +8? 06:15 Risked it. :D 06:16 I was going to seriously knock Graz'zt. 06:16 I wasn't going to go down thrice and back off. 06:16 yeah the newer bosses are tough .. grazt, tiamat.. i never thought I'd be happy to see demogorgon lol 06:17 Heh. The first time I fought Graz'zt, he gated in Lolth. 06:17 Basically I setup the boulderfort, THEN woke him... Then he immediately just tore down the fort and then gated in Lolth. 06:17 I've been getting that a lot more lately. Like regular & gating in demon princes and whatnot 06:18 Turn by turn that was... 1. Boulder fort. 2. Graz'zt appears. 3. Boulders destroyed. 4. Summon uber-nasties. 4. Gated in Lolth. 5. Steal everything. 06:18 sounds pretty par for the course. Evil 06:19 I should probably have immediately rebuilt the boulderfort, but I was thinking "Darn, he destroys the fort like nothing..." 06:19 Next time I'll immediately rebuild it. 06:20 well now you know you can get back there. Sometimes you luck out and get all easy bosses. I like the new way of it being random which ones ya get 06:20 some games are harder than others 06:20 Yep. 06:20 K2 was actually thinking of making Graz'zt slightly easier. 06:20 it's pretty insane 06:21 but yeah like i had to kill him AND demo because something (not a boss just must have been like a red & or whatever) gated demo in in the sanctum 06:21 Oof. 06:21 At the same time? 06:21 graz'zt is so whack nasty compared to the others it seems, the plan seems to be to have something you can non-boulder fort try for it reasonably 06:22 I wonder what the 'weakest' demon lord is now? anyone know? 06:22 or something he was just waiting there. it was so weird https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1653477904.evil.txt 06:23 I found Lolth just easy to melee. 06:23 oh that's right and when I got to DL 1 with the amulet and was gonna do a little more work and then go up the stairs, Lolth was on DL 1 !! 06:23 (So long as you don't have Graz'zt right there) 06:23 so something has changed where they can just show up or something 06:23 or maybe it was Dispater 06:23 one of them was just chilling on the first level of the dungeon 06:24 and demo was just chilling in the sanctum 06:24 soon as I went down the stairs after doing invocation 06:24 yeah lolth is one of the easier ones 06:26 It was nice being Xl 26. :) 06:26 I also need to find a better way to kill orcus without melee'ing him, because that turns out to be bad. 06:27 yeah he drains you 06:27 i've found bones there a few times... a lot of people get surprised by that "wand" 06:27 He drained me down to 53. 06:27 he'll break your boulder fort too 06:28 at the very least, i make sure i have a ton of maxhp when i do orcus 06:28 and even then i usually have to nurse dance or whatever again after 06:29 Yeah, I nurse-danced to something like 200 or something. 06:29 230 maybe. 06:29 But I had to drain two magic markers to get enough scrolls for that. 06:29 I also littered the floor with speed potions, which the nurses mostly drank. 06:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 792 points, T:1025, killed by the Goblin King 06:32 I think I'll take a very short break and go on VR for a bit. Laters. :) 06:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 697 points, T:1157, killed by a rabid dog 07:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:46 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:56 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 08:31 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1279 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:5273 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:6208 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4479 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:4505 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3178 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una), 8396 points, T:7319, killed by a gnomish wizard 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10234 points, T:5922, disintegrated by an antimatter vortex 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5625 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 321 points, T:458, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 10:42 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 wooden darts on an altar, on T:6281 10:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7263 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of silver gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1559 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:1311 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1991 11:01 qt: your editor honors .editorconfig. I actually prefer 100 but for reasons I don't remember I configured it to 110. the commit ff3cc4c4b1 says "Hard maximal line length is 110. Soft maximal line length is 100." 11:01 I interpret that as "try to stay below 100 but if need be, go 110" 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1338 points, T:1747, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted homunculus, while sleeping 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 7218 points, T:7721, killed by a dwarf king 11:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una), 6690 points, T:8489, killed by an arrow 11:38 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 988 points, T:1382, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3813 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5770 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:5900 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Inf Hum Fem Una), 12038 points, T:8885, killed by an owlbear 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (pancake) for the first time, on T:3272 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4196 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:6029 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6148 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1069 points, T:1541, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jaguar 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:7126 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1518 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 silver shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:8863 13:48 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:11864 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:13700 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:35889 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4532 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:11509 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:5080 14:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11831 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:37479 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class b, on T:37845 15:04 lol, turns out my fix last week that let vampires have unbreathing also broke wearing armor for almost all roles 15:07 epic 15:08 yea... 15:09 Something in set_mon_data 15:11 103 commits before I noticed that! O-o 15:17 oooh boy 15:18 thats how u know ur a real variant dev 15:18 The fix is easy, but now have to figure out how to give unbreathing to vampires again! 15:19 Yay, I'm a real variant dev! /O\ 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu), 417134 points, T:38780, killed by the Abominable Snowman 15:20 where's the bit that's broke? 15:23 in polyself.c: set_uasmon 15:23 https://github.com/elunna/hackem/blob/100ebea35ded55277f8302d1b124c38c2b10a7ea/src/polyself.c#L87 15:24 I tried using a weird version that Unnethack uses, but seems like it's doing something I didn't predict. Maybe making everything giant size? 15:24 Although it did make the vampires work... 15:26 the set_mon_data bit you mean? 15:26 It's funny, there's even a note that says "don't touch magical breathing here" so it's a bit tricky to do unbreathing in that function. 15:26 Yes, I included a comment about the Un version 15:27 You'd think the unbreathing would just float in naturally from the M1 tags, but for some reason it's being stubborn. 15:27 Actually unbreathing is the M1_BREATHLESS tag 15:33 And it's not a case of enlightenment not showing the breathless property, if I run into a sleeping gas trap as a vampire, it puts me to sleep :/ 15:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 11998 points, T:15384, killed by a horse 15:38 Hmm, splice seems to have some vampire specific stuff in that section. Could be helpful 15:43 Except splice is using g.youmonst.cham, which isn't in evil... the rabbit hole continues 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a titan), on T:21080 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 140539 points, T:21085, killed by a spectre 15:53 hackemslashem, splice is based off of 3.7 now 15:53 I know, evil has .cham too, but that solution doesn't look promising. 15:54 I might just add a check for vamps where the fix was. What did you break with tortles??? 15:54 just take away g. 15:55 i broke nothing with tortles 15:55 I've taken away so many g's now... 15:56 hackem what didn't work with it before? 15:56 just breathless wasn't set? 15:56 before you changed to have that ternary or whatever there 15:56 breathless, and the vulnerability to fire didn't work 15:57 And regen didn't transfer over either, I set that manually in vam_abil, like other races have. Which shouldn't really have to be done. 15:57 (I was kidding about tortles btw) 15:59 factually untrue K2 I have here evidence that you in fact... 15:59 forgot to make a tile for tortles and immediately had to make a followup commit!!! 15:59 fake news! 15:59 alternative facts! 16:00 oh really? where were you on the 28th of March, at approximately 18:13 UTC 16:00 tortle is perfect in every way, i had tortle complete in one go... it was the perfect call 16:00 do you have an alibi 16:00 What did work for vampires is: flying, death/drain res, silver hatred, sickness immunity, 16:00 lol 16:08 Ok, I have a workable fix, vampys get their vampy shit, and everyone else can wear armor. Everybody wins! 16:10 rip everyone-nudist-except-vampires-hack 2022-2022 16:12 oh f, you called it, vamps still can't wear armor?? wtf!!! 16:13 Y 16:13 The weird thing is, that they can start the game wearing armor, but if you take it off, you can't put it on again 16:14 Includes cloaks, shirts too :( 16:15 ok gdb, my least favorite friend, let's do this 16:17 you, five seconds after figuring out the problem: wtf i love gdb now 16:31 is evilhack going to have playable vampire class? 16:32 Maybe if I figure it out lol, I'm pretty close :P 16:33 you have my support. I played the heck out of vampires in slashem, un, and splice. 16:41 Nice, I ported all the vampire stuff I could from Un as a base. Just having issues with the intrinsics of the vampire form right now, but the biting/draining stuff seems to work fine. 16:57 you should make better friends with gdb 16:58 it will help you out a whole lot 16:58 I'm trying, it's a process 16:59 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:03 Oh weird, elves get searching at lvl 9 in evil... 17:04 i dont have any plans to add an undead player race to evilhack. its already done in other variants, and they all have bugs :) 17:05 undead slayer 17:05 has been done in what, slashem and slashthem? 17:06 or do you mean any such player-chosen race that happens to be undead? 17:06 This guy is trying to fix the bugs :D 17:08 oh, an undead "player race", I get you now 17:08 not a typo of undead slayer 17:08 well boooo being afraid of bugs, hissss 17:08 hahah 17:10 centaur race enters chat 17:10 i brought you this 17:11 clop clop clop 17:12 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 17:12 whoever came up with centaur knight as a playable combo is GENIUS 17:12 thank you 17:12 * K2 bows 17:12 lol 17:13 :P 17:13 i may allow for centaur infidel 17:14 I'm not particularly surprised by this but there has still only been one non-demon infidel asc 17:15 its hard to resist not getting corwned as infidel 17:15 lol corwned 17:15 crowned 17:15 owned 17:16 infidel demon is too much fun 17:16 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16 I guess in a way it doesn't rly matter what you start as, in terms of the scoreboard, because once you crown it's all the same maybe 17:17 I guess the scoreboard can't know what your starting race was? 17:17 it knows, it could be changed 17:17 I would suddenly have a lot of extra first ascs :-) 17:17 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 17:18 oh well in that case best not do it :^) 17:18 heh 17:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:19 Getting cornwed is corntastic 17:21 honestly, the NHS shouldnt track demon race in evilhack, it should just track starting 17:21 given that its not a starting race 17:22 hi VaderFLAG 17:25 changing it would also pad out the table stats which would be a good talking point to bring up with the investors 17:27 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:28 * K2 nods 17:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:50 Cool, I think I figured out the vamp stuff, just kept the polyself code same as evil, and did everything else in attrib. 17:50 On that note, GOOD NIGHT! 17:52 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:53 o/ 18:15 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (valkyries), on T:3982 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5206 points, T:3982, killed by genocidal confusion 18:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1334 18:36 Hi K2 18:36 I like the Graz change, adds an interesting dimension to it 18:37 thanks 18:37 it'll be in next version 18:37 0.8.1 18:44 what's coming next will be even more fun :P 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5395 18:49 Agree with Vader 18:49 Also hi 19:06 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2239 points, T:6018, burned by a fireball 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 712 points, T:1007, killed by a bolt of cold 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9404 points, T:4646, killed by a small mimic 20:52 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 20:52 -!- PhantomLumina is now known as group 20:52 -!- group is now known as PhantomLumina 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7905 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) averted death (burned by molten lava), on T:13810 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2347