00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 656 points, T:795, killed by a dwarf zombie 00:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 00:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:26 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:3049 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 306 points, T:497, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kitten 02:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:42 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 424 points, T:674, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted werejackal 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +2 long sword on an altar, on T:4429 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed love2hack's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4685 02:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1502 03:49 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:52 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:53 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7466 04:08 Merging the latest evil changes, finally getting good at doing this in CLion :) 04:09 And looks like Giantslayer provides protection from clobber now?? 04:39 The goggles are neat. I don't see anything in attributes like "You can see underwater", but maybe that's overkill. 04:40 It looks like monsters cannot attack you, but you can still attack monsters (only tested with ravens on medusa's level) 04:41 Giant eels can attack me underwater, so that's good. 05:05 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a copper two-handed sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:11975 05:24 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:13184 06:00 TIL, unicorn horns can get burnt. 06:00 Can I repair them? 06:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:940 06:14 Really? no idea lol 06:14 Somehow blindfolds and towels still can't! 06:16 That's a good mini-nerf for the unihorn for when you get to gehenna though 06:19 It's annoying, means I have to keep moving it in and out of the sack, not a QoL improvement. 06:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:59204 06:27 Just 51 HP max left. Darn he's bad. 06:28 I unfortunately didn't have a c-corpse. 06:28 Or paralysis. I basically id the worst approach, it seems. 06:29 Do you have a ? of ew? Could fix it 06:29 ew? 06:30 Man, he kicked your butt ouch. enchant weapon 06:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Pri Gia Mal Cha), 2833 points, T:3491, poisoned by a giant mosquito 06:30 I'm a monk, no real weapons. 06:31 And yep, swipped 200HP off me. 06:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:4728 06:43 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:46 Back up to a pitiful 161 HP. :( 07:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:8707 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6776 points, T:6089, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 07:28 Arahael: yeah orcus does that 07:28 I've burned through 5 cursed genos this game. 07:30 c corpses don't work in evil the same as vanilla (Orcus would cast stone the flesh on himself...) 07:30 Ah, good to know. 07:30 also sucks he doesn't have an actual wand anymore :( I don't have any death wands yet 07:31 Anything I should keep in mind with vlad? 07:31 About ot fight him. 07:31 might want to put a boulder over that wand of orcus (i don't think you can pick it up) for when you are coming up with the amulet... 07:31 don't fall in the abyss 07:31 I've already done THAT twice. 07:31 there's a sign now, but many people have dropped there 07:31 oh lol 07:32 No sign this time(!) 07:33 Be careful of those weredemons. Make sure to watch messages in case you get lycanthropy (don't want to lose your cloak) 07:33 Yeah. :( 07:33 I keep misisng them, but they would surely be in the enlightement right? 07:34 Hmm, I don't seem to be 'extremely' lucky anymore, next time I'm at my stash, I should chuck a few more gems at the unicorn I have there. 07:35 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 07:35 As for teh orcus wand, I've already gone way past it. Why should I cover it? Can enemies pick it up? 07:36 I think I saw in the code that if you are really badly aligned you might be able to pick it up 07:36 Hmm... 07:36 Tempting. 07:37 lol, I would confirm with K2 first 07:39 Yea.... I don't know, in artilist.h it says "Can only be wielded by Orcus or others 07:39 * of his ilk" 07:40 Ok, I appear to have found Vlad. 07:41 hackemslashem you can't pick it up at all 07:42 Ouch lol 07:42 that guard has `yours` in it, no matter what you can't pick it up 07:42 What if you are polymorphed into a demon? 07:42 doesn't work 07:42 same with being an infidel and getting crowned to become a demon, also doesn't work 07:42 this makes me sad 07:42 This would be easy to change in hackem lolol 07:42 do it >:) 07:42 Remove "yours" 07:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:62967 07:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62968 07:44 it doesn't check if demon in that guard there which is odd 07:45 There are 2 places I see where it checks... 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 184 points, T:210, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome queen 07:46 || (yours && obj->oartifact == ART_WAND_OF_ORCUS && !wizard) 07:46 change to : || (!is_demon(mon->data) && obj->oartifact == ART_WAND_OF_ORCUS && !wizard) ? 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 259 points, T:818, killed by a boulder 07:51 I was trying to import the unnethack VotD today, and finished the copying the part with Cerberus ... and then realized the unnethack version was flipped horizontally :P 07:51 the wizard check should go unless you only want wizmode players to use it 07:52 Ah good point, cool. Now ppl can use it if polymorphed into a demon.. Good nuf? 07:54 I think I can do it by flipping the evil level, and copying over Cerberus to the un version, then I don't have to retool every coordinate in the un votd 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 4 points, T:35, killed by a water moccasin, while reading a book 07:57 Oh dear. Graz't is... Difficult, is he? 07:59 All the evil demon prices sound hard :/ 07:59 *princes 07:59 Can you even bribe them? 07:59 graz'zt is meant to be the worst one I think 08:00 sounds like the go-to strategy is boulder fort on stairs, use cursed invis, and throw an aklys 08:02 Can't death a demon prince I guess either, can we? 08:05 boulder fort sounds good, though... It seems if I "pass the check", I could geno or do wishes, or the like? 08:05 Any idea what the check is? 08:06 My stats seem OK, but I don't know how high they have to be: St:18/25 Dx:18 Co:18 In:15 Wi:18 Ch:17 08:06 what are you asking about sorry? 08:06 Grat'zt. 08:06 *Graz'zt. 08:06 I don't understand the question, could you rephrase it? what's this with wishing and geno? 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:656 08:06 what check do you mean? 08:07 From the wiki: If the character fails the check, Graz'zt may steal some of their possessions and/or equip them with harmful equipment. If the character passes the check, Graz'zt may grant them wishes or genocide monsters; 08:07 I think arahael is confusing our conversation with wizard check (that refers to wizard debug mode) 08:07 Not to being a wizard 08:07 arahael: that's how it works in dnh not in evilhack 08:08 Ah, thanks for that!! 08:08 So I'm going to assume he's just baaaaad, because everybody complains about him... So the boulderfort idea sounds good. And then I need to wake him up... 08:08 yeah he steals all your shit and then pwns u 08:08 Boulder fort is useless, ha. 08:09 ? 08:09 He just struck the fort down. 08:09 Ohhh shit 08:09 First thing he did. 08:10 With wand of striking, or his bare claws? 08:10 striking. 08:10 ah ok 08:11 But actually, without striking, it seriously does nothing, he just teleports wherever the heck he wants. 08:11 there's a bug atm or maybe it was fixed where they wand of striking but still act like the boulder is still there or something 08:11 And now I have lolth. 08:11 but yeah idk what you should do here 08:11 mobileuser might have a plan 08:11 what did graz'zt manage to steal from you? 08:12 Oh, only a few minor things. Dragonbane... 08:14 Hmm, so now I have to decide... Stay and kill Lolth in melee... Or go back to my stash, but Graz'zt has all my good stuff. 08:15 Oh, gloves. I'm missing gloves. 08:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Lolth, on T:64262 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 2665 points, T:1234, killed by a giant anaconda 08:17 mobileuser: Any suggestions as to how I'm supposed to deal with Graz'zt? 08:26 throw him a bag with stuff in it 08:26 my last evilhack asc, graz'zt stole most of my stuff, including weapons. he then grabbed my bag and became interested in it instead - i punched him to death 08:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17194 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Rat King, on T:17264 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 1298 points, T:3530, killed by a giant spider 08:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 76672 points, T:17852, killed by a bone orcish arrow 08:53 "you can mess with me, you can mess with my weapons, but god have mercy on you if you MESS WITH MY BAG" 08:54 it's a gucci 08:57 Hmm, interesting idea... 08:58 I guess I should take the wand of wishing out first... 08:58 heh 08:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:59 And the amulets of life saving... 08:59 Pity I can't death the demon lords. 09:00 you cant 'death' demons in general 09:01 Well, that was useless. The bag of hesperides missed him. 09:01 And he ignored it. 09:02 hackemslashem: flipped horizontally? I'm pretty sure I just imported lethe's VotD. 09:02 And he now has the candlebran thing. 09:02 have you tried hitting him with a potion of paralysis? 09:03 that's my go-to for any tough boss monster 09:03 I should try that again. 09:04 I keep missing him. 09:05 And he now has my life saving. 09:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a giant centipede), on T:64436 09:07 Yep, and now he has my quest artifact, etc, etc, he's horrible. 09:08 I need to escape to my stash now. 09:08 I basically have nothing now. 09:09 Except Gjallar, 3 wishes, and the wizard's eye. 09:09 yeah graz'zt is a tough one 09:09 :/ 09:09 hopefully one of the 200iq serial ascenders can help, they always know what to do 09:10 But I did try like 5 times or so to hit him with paralysis, just keep missing. 09:10 throwing or wielding? 09:10 wielding. 09:10 unfortunately hitting with it blows chunks, has a penalty for unskilled weapons or something and has to do roll against AC 09:11 but thrown misses waste the potion so askdjfasdf 09:11 hitting with potions will get a bit easier next version 09:11 i pulled in a 3.7 commit for it 09:11 Maybe I should just try throwing like 6 potions? 09:11 I feel like thrown "attack" potions should just hit guaranteed, with a "miss" being potion vapours instead (hits the floor) 09:12 But yeah, basically I find him unhittable, and he hits so hard adn then just vanishes for a while and like, cures all 400 HP. 09:12 so in the case of para it'd be a lesser para from the vapours instead 09:12 attack potions being things like sleep/para/blindness/(poly?) 09:12 I basically need to land like 30 punches on him with him staying in the same spot. 09:13 Except he stuns me like nothign 09:13 arahael something else i try to do as a monk, esp if i have the extra wishes - silver gauntlets of power 09:14 makes quick work of demons, esp having the 2nd attack 09:14 Oh that's a nice idea. 09:14 I might have them spare... 09:14 Nope, both iron, I could wish up a silver one. 09:14 I should sleep though so I'll do that first. (Sleep, that is) 09:15 irl sleep 09:15 what did vanilla do for para pots K2? 09:15 one sec 09:16 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/6bc796028d13f5275d6ec3e6e603ad0699969726 09:16 ^ all potions 09:16 ah I don't think that improves your chance to hit with them 09:16 and changes nothing if you already have free action 09:16 YANI on my thrown potions idea above 09:16 Yeah, it doesn't. I've lost my free action, I might have to wish that up too. 09:18 ah 09:18 Also lost my divine protection. 09:19 So there must have been a gremlin in that mess too. 09:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 silver gauntlets of power", on T:64564 09:24 bhaak: True you did, but the side the altar is on is reversed from the standard map 09:25 G'night! 09:39 gnite arahael 09:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 09:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 279 points, T:779, zombified by a kobold zombie 09:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:00 oops I see that the horrible Graz'zt is ruining yet another game 10:02 I tuned in for a sec and it really went tits up fast 10:02 it was like second hit by graz'zt calling in lolth 10:02 !tell arahael against Graz'zt: boulderfort. Otherwise you're basically fucked unless you get lucky. 10:02 No worries, mobileuser, I've got this! 10:02 oof that's the rng being a dick 10:03 mobileuser he did 10:03 get lucky? 10:03 he acquired a wand of striking at spawn i think 10:03 he did the boulder fort 10:03 grazzt broke one of the boulders with a wand i think 10:03 graz'zt zapped striking yeah 10:03 that happened in my last eh game too 10:04 why is graz'zt so much nastier than everyone else 10:04 did you fix that bug where s/he wouldn't move to a broken boulder? 10:04 I'll say yet again: Graz'zt could use a nerf on that seduce attack 10:05 evilhack graz'zt is nastier than dnh graz'zt :P 10:05 mobileuser no ihavent fixed that yet, i'm not sure what causes it 10:05 would it be better if grazzt didnt tele away after every steal? 10:05 arahael probably wasn't aware of the bug then :-( 10:06 I think that could potentially make it worse because of chain stealing and followup attacks 10:06 hrm 10:06 idea: dnh change where engagement makes you immune to seduction 10:06 was arahael on the upstairs? in that case they stay pretty close? 10:06 I think they had boulder forted stood next to stairs 10:06 then what's the point of the seduction attack then? 10:06 so broke a boulder to leave 10:07 maybe make it so item stealing doesnt happen with every single attack 10:07 what's the point of illness with DSM? 10:07 give it a chance to fail (the seduction attack) 10:07 what's the point of poison with poison res? 10:07 or reduce the frequency somehow 10:07 amateurhour you're comparing apples to oranges 10:07 no it's another thing you can prepare for 10:07 mobileuser is on right track 10:08 make it based off of charisma 10:08 if you prefer mobi's idea then sure, but it's wearing a piece of equipment to protect against an attack type 10:08 ^ another reason to plus up charisma 10:08 isn't amateurhour saying wearing an engagement ring would protect against seduction 10:08 why is that apples to oranges with other equipment types that protect against attacks? 10:08 i dont know how dnh protects against seduction 10:08 wearing an engagement ring 10:09 oh 10:09 you just said 'engagement' 10:09 as in 'engaging the enemy, attack' 10:09 that's how i read it 10:09 yeah at first i thought it meant "engaging in a multiturn action" 10:09 but i figured it out 10:09 man I didn't realise I was being that cryptic 10:09 lol 10:10 charisma, intelligence, MC.... sure, stuff like that 10:10 heh 10:10 yeah i have an idea 10:10 \o/ 10:11 this will make wanting to plus up your charisma more desirebale, so yet another reason to do it 10:11 will make of excellence for valuable 10:11 and engagement rings 10:11 s/for/more 10:11 wouldn't higher charisma make you more likely to be seduced 10:12 it should be low cha that protects you against seduction attacks :) 10:12 no, it'd make you more likely to resist 10:12 hah 10:12 i mean in reality 10:12 charisma != looks 10:12 that's how comely you are 10:12 case in point - donald trump was a shit ton of charisma 10:12 *has 10:13 he looks like a bag of dicks, but he has a lot of charisma 10:13 maybe in d&d but in nethack charisma directly affects how you look in a mirror :) 10:13 heh 10:14 also would you say donald trump is an elite professional at declining women who want to have sex with him? 10:14 probably 10:15 no one wants to have sex with him, he either forces/pays them 10:15 eww 10:15 brb 10:16 lol qt that's funny 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2951 10:29 I'm picturing the "women" who would want to have sex with Trump and now i feel the urge to vomit 10:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 6049 points, T:3308, killed by a wand 10:51 I wanted to have thiefbane protect against theft, but since I couldn't get my characters to even wield it I gave up on that idea 10:56 why couldn't they wield it? 10:57 it's because thiefbane has a bane against humans I think 10:57 and player always counts 10:57 or something 10:57 better idea than just "protect against theft": automatic counterattack when something tries to steal from you. strong enough that it severely hurts or kills leprechauns, but not like an instakill for rodney snatching the amulet 10:58 Yea it was something like that 10:59 Rogues would naturally be good at that 10:59 ok but thiefbane should resist being held by ROGUES of all people :) 11:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01 I meant rogues would be good at counter-theft :p 11:03 you could do an ugly bandaid check for setting that bane boolean in retouch_artifact specifically for thiefbane 11:03 or further down in spec_applies if you're hitting yourself with it, but that seems worse because you'd expect the cursed weapon hitting yourself to really hurt maybe idk 11:04 i need to wrap up this goblintown expansion today 11:04 almost there 11:05 ah no that's cool, I think it's fine that Thiefbane would resist being stolen 11:07 MC One-Eyed Sam says "You can't touch this!" 11:07 haha nice 11:08 thanks. now that awful song is in my head 11:08 \O/ 11:08 oh ho ho ho 11:17 it ain't that bad lmao 11:17 I think the counterattack should also be stronger if Thiefbane specifically was targeted 11:18 Could also tweak it to be something like Kurtulmak scales in dnh where lawful gnomes can get it but it always blasts them regardless 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 653 points, T:807, killed by the Goblin King 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1129 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2295 points, T:1631, killed by a gnome lady 12:36 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±16] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/8eab962960c8...3bc3147afa74 12:36 [EvilHack] k21971 3bc3147 - Goblin Town expansion: Gollum's Cave. 12:38 o:! 12:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:00 You are now rich +15.541$ on your balance! The main thing is to have time to withdraw your +26.288$ FOLLOW THIS SECURE LINK FROM PDF FILE 13:00 i love spam email 13:00 wow I didn't know only 15 dollars makes me rich 13:02 i think its a UK thing? to use a raised dot instead of a comma 13:02 i dunno 13:02 here's a fun one 13:03 'Hello, I am Manuel Franco, you have a donation of $2,800,000.00 (Two Million Eight Hundred Thousand Dollars). I won the $768 million Powerball lottery in 2019. I am donating part of it to five lucky people and Ten Charity Organizations. Your email was randomly selected from the universal email database. If you are interested in this, contact me urgently for claims' 13:03 not 'a' database, but 'the' email database 13:04 the UNIVERSAL email database 13:04 \o/ 13:04 what's so weird about that? it's the database of all people who visited the Universal Studios theme park 13:05 i remember reading once, some dude saved every spam email he received saying he had won or acquired money, over a period of one year. if all of those emails had been true, he would have over 41 trillion dollar or some crazy amount 13:07 i want 41 trillion dollars 13:07 you say you want 41 trillion dollars, but you obviously don't want it enough to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and earn it 13:08 if i had 41 trillion dollars, i could give every single american citizen over 124,000 dollars 13:08 wouldnt that be something 13:08 which in turn would weaken the dollar by so much, 124k usd would be something like 2 euro 13:09 qt, sadly I dont own any bootstraps 13:09 I think I was most impressed with the enlargement spam offering me a "25% increase, three to four inches" which, well, a _bit_ of arithmetic suggests an interesting conclusion 13:10 isn't a bootstrap just the little loop at the top of a boot 13:10 Pinkbeast hahaha 13:11 Pinkbeast: they have a lot of confidence in you, that's all 13:12 if 3-4 inches is only a 25% increase, you dont need an increase 13:12 K2: That indeed was my thought, yes 13:12 hah 13:14 always strive for more, like alexander the great 13:22 is he your hero? 13:24 he was the first person i could think of who seemed to fit "striving for more" and whom it'd be be funny to imagine buying dick pills 13:25 i heard he conquered all of india in search of effective dick enhancement 13:30 :) 13:30 so, monsters that have a steal/seduction attack, simply cancelling them negates that attack, permanently 13:31 graz'zt's current monster MR is 85, meaning good luck trying to cancel him 13:31 could lower that 13:31 so the player has a shot 13:32 *has a shot at a viable strategy 13:32 cancel culture strikes EvilHack again... 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 202 points, T:757, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 178 points, T:37, killed by a sewer rat 13:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 156 points, T:854, killed by a boiling potion 13:51 mobileuser, to get you up to speed 13:51 [13:30] <@K2> so, monsters that have a steal/seduction attack, simply cancelling them negates that attack, permanently 13:51 [13:31] <@K2> graz'zt's current monster MR is 85, meaning good luck trying to cancel him 13:51 [13:31] <@K2> could lower that 13:51 [13:31] <@K2> so the player has a shot 13:51 [13:32] <@K2> *has a shot at a viable strategy 13:52 currently the formula is rn2(100 + attack level of object - monster level) < monsters MR rating 13:52 yeah I saw that, that still sucks as a strategy :-) 13:52 my testing says otherwise :) 13:53 hmmm 13:53 MR has to be low enough though 13:53 as low as that, wow 13:53 but not so low that graz'zt becomes easy 13:53 I'm just gonna tame him then! 13:53 so the formula for graz'zt is rn2(62) < 85 (currently) 13:53 if using a wand of cancellation 13:54 which means you'll never get past his MR with a wand 13:54 resisted = rn2(65) < 85 13:54  graz'zt steals your wand of cancellation!  graz'zt' zaps you with a wand of cancellation! 13:54 err 62 13:55 but, if his MR were say 25-30 13:55 that gives you a sloghty better than 50/50 chance to cancel him 13:55 *slightly 13:55 numberwang! :b 13:55 i dont know what that word is, but i like it 13:56 "It is a fictional television series in which the two contestants call out seemingly random numbers which are occasionally told to be Numberwang." 13:56 ah 13:56 ;-) 13:56 lol 13:57 well, if you can keep zapping him a few times... 13:57 I like it! 13:57 yeah, you have a chance to use a viable strat 13:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:58 my wifi seems a bit flaky at the moment... 13:59 The invisible Graz'zt tries to seduce you, but you seem uninterested. 13:59 That's what we like to hear! 13:59 i dropped his MR from 85 to 30 14:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a ring mail entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:20070 14:00 what effect does taming have at that MR? 14:00 so, roughly 50/50 chance 14:00 well you cant tame a demon boss 14:00 pacify? 14:01 or won't he become peaceful? 14:01 not sure 14:01 scroll isnt as powerful as a wand for monster resistance calc 14:01 and the harp? 14:02 slightly better than a scoll but not by much 14:02 oh and there is also the spell 14:02 same? 14:02 (brb) 14:02 a spell overcoming a resistance is based on your exp level 14:03 in the UK we use a full stop for decimals too, also pound sign and dollar sign at the front 14:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:04 so casting cancellation spell as a high level wizard is the way to go 14:13 resisted = rn2(62) < 35 that's pretty good odds with a wand of cancellation. rn2(80) < 35 <--- lvl 30 wizard casting cancellation spell, even better odds 14:13 ship it 14:14 \o/ 14:14 lvl 30 actually 14:14 but wiz would have best chance of success 14:14 or infidel 14:14 si 14:15 ok so... graz'zt is still no joke, even if cancelled. but, gives player yet another reason to keep wand/spell of cancellation handy 14:15 Almost feels like 30 MR is a bit on the lower side, but a step in the right direction imo 14:16 gonna make it 35 14:16 feels better 14:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:21498 14:19 Still the same but not-as-much 14:19 I'm overall in favor of the change 14:20 35 is not the same as 30 14:20 hahah 14:21 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3bc3147afa74...a8ac44afd1a3 14:21 [EvilHack] k21971 a8ac44a - Adjust Graz'zt's magic resistance. 14:26 ffs dont tell rebatela 14:27 lol 14:39 No I mean like 14:39 It's still lower than it """should""" be imo but not AS low 14:39 I'dve probably nudged to like 40 14:40 but balance hard 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:20607 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1473 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:22108 15:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Pri Gia Mal Law), 2782 points, T:2717, killed by the Goblin King 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4633 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 poisoned crude arrows on an altar, on T:4850 16:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:25752 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8953 points, T:6242, quit 16:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Nicolau (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1313 points, T:1403, killed by the Goblin King 16:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law), 43378 points, T:27791, killed by a leocrotta 16:55 DEMON NERF DETECTED 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3034 points, T:2926, killed by an Uruk-hai 17:59 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:359 18:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1153 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:758 18:33 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:24652 18:34 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:35 dammit i ruined like my dozenth keyboard spilling a ummm coffee in it 18:36 :( 18:36 trying out this old one. not wireless, but seems to be ok. Gotta adjust though ya know? 18:36 i have so many broken ones. I should built something out of them 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 203 points, T:780, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:01 so... sounds like i should find/get a wand of cancellation, or keep grinding untip i am xp 30 and cast it myself... 19:01 arahael: Message from mobileuser at 2022-09-29 10:02 EDT: against Graz'zt: boulderfort. Otherwise you're basically fucked unless you get lucky. 19:01 sounds like i'm basically fucked, then! :: 19:01 :) 19:02 i could do another boulderfort though, except he just goes hrough them easy. would give an extra turn though but his HP is ao crazy high. 19:03 oh, and k2, he has the eye and dragonbane. he probably has mr and reflection. 19:07 arahael want to know what i did with grazt last time as a monk?\ 19:07 rebatela: yeah? 19:07 it was bones too so someone had already pissed him off and gotten their loot dragonbane etc. i think 19:07 lovely! 19:07 yeah. I imagine you do want to know what I did? 19:08 it's a damn shame because I don't remember :( 19:08 kidding 19:08 ok 19:08 just a wee tad! heh. 19:08 boulder fort 19:08 and lots of enchant shuriken 19:08 enchanted 19:08 train the skill to basic 19:08 i have shuriken, already trained. 19:08 and you will multishot 19:08 you need a bunch obviously 19:08 but i'm pretty sure that's what i did 19:09 might take you some time (poly morph arrows and shit like that if need be ) 19:09 i'll give it a go. might even wish up some silver ones. 19:09 do you know the spell? poly? 19:09 yep 19:09 you can get lots of shurkien if you are patient 19:09 take your time. He's the pretty much the hardest of those kind of bosses 19:10 lots and lots of splats there 19:10 hmm. 19:11 altar work will get you blessed fixed shuriken as well 19:11 especially if you have weaponless going (i don't think you do) 19:11 i lost weaponless. 19:11 I dont in my game either but I've still gotten some from god 19:11 yeah i hit someone with a shuriken :( 19:11 while wielding it... 19:11 oh that sucks, wielded it? 19:11 yep 19:11 yeah i broke the conduct in my game similarly it wasn 19:12 wasn't even the pickaxe thing i had wielded something by mistake 19:12 unihorn i think 19:12 thats a tool, i think that doesnr break weaponless. 19:13 It's a weapon-tool lmao 19:16 ah, interesting. 19:17 i just noted that weilding tools (lamp) didnt break it, didnt realise the nuance. 19:19 i think i remember i had like 5 scrolls of earth so if i use them all maybe i will have shuriken'ed him enough. 19:20 i need to find a ring of free action too so i guess i have a lot of exploring to do. 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:25643 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25644 19:24 rebatela: and fix my protection again, and luck. i will start running out of priests soon! :) 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:25946 19:27 what did you pray early again/ 19:27 ? 19:28 i think there must have been a gremlin in graz'zt's mess. 19:42 they steal ac? 19:42 i've never had a gremlin steal shit but that's the firsrt i've heard of that 19:48 at least you were able to get out of there I presume? Are you still on the level? 19:48 as long as you have an altar and polymorph and slow digestion you can do anything. 19:49 rings are easy to poly for (like the free action you say you need) because there's so many useless ones 19:50 Gremlins can steal intrinsic protection, yes. 19:50 i just got in a fight with chick i live with soooo it's off to the bedroom to play evil all night 19:50 yeah i don't doubt they can. That really sucks. just had never seen it \ 19:50 rebatela: indeed, and yeah i got out also. oh, graz'zt also gated in other demons so i had lolth but lolth is much easier to kill. 20:06 yeah lolth is a joke comparitively 20:07 i had to fight grazt and demo because when I went down to molochs he was just standing there (not even bones) 20:07 but grazt was bones 20:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3626 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] love2hack (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an ogre noble, on T:27136 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1349 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1757 20:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5712 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3187 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3896 20:48 dammit not used to this keyboard and i dropped my bag somewhere 20:48 hope i didn't polypile it lol 20:49 oh man this sucks 20:50 oh good i left on altar phew 20:54 VaderFLAG lol 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 4453 points, T:5686, killed by a Grey-elf 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:10733 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 3432 points, T:5729, quit 22:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:41501 22:02 awwww yeah 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2193 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:5498 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2553 points, T:4017, killed by a gray ooze 23:01 sanctum/ascrun redo is gonna be *fun* 23:03 more like spanked'em/assrub redo 23:03 owned 23:03 (owned the sanctum and ascension run, not you, K2) 23:09 bhaak: why does my textwidth get set to 110 when I open unnethack files? 23:10 i have an augroup that normally sets it to 78 for C files 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4702 23:12 they don't have modelines.. 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:5024 23:14 oh this is #evilhack, I meant to ask that in #hardfought 23:15 K2: What do you have planned? 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5368 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6095 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 15603 points, T:6500, quit 23:38 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7773 23:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:40 -!- Guest7773 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:55 Umbire something like this - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L23 23:56 Oho~ 23:57 * K2 was pwned by qt 23:57 i'm working on the sanctum changes first