00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Inf Ith Mal Una), 504 points, T:1282, killed by a giant bat 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:2181 02:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:35 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:17793 05:18 but but Master Po :-( 05:23 Hardly any meat on them bones anyway! 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:64358 05:41 bonus: the balrog there had Angelslayer 05:43 I wonder if CaptSplat == microlance 05:48 good theory 05:48 rc files are quite different though so not sure 05:49 their first game had a microlance feel to it... yolo and damage optimalisation 05:50 I forgot my axe to cut trees at Vecna, there's always something... :-) 05:51 I wonder if Angelslayer can burn down trees 05:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed CaptSplat's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:1498 05:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1175 points, T:2390, killed by a kobold lord 06:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2146 06:52 "You harmlessly attack the dead tree" :-( 06:53 YANI: attacking a dead tree with a weapon of fire will burn the tree 07:09 no secret door at the top this time... will have to deal with that horrible drawbridge 07:09 get life saving ready 07:09 the most dangerous enemy in the game 07:14 operation drawbridge complete :b 07:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3982 07:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2776 points, T:4814, killed by a giant mosquito 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:65039 07:45 I really really want The Hand this time, so it will probably be The Eye 07:46 aaaand of course, The Eye of the Vecna :-( 07:46 tum tee tum 07:46 damn... 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:65059 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:65061 08:00 slotless astral vision 08:00 \o/ 08:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:04 yeah, that's a nice to have. but I could have used the disease res and the cold res 08:04 uh the cold damage 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 352 points, T:945, killed by a rock gnome 08:05 and the half phys damage, I will probably wish for Gjallar now 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:65084 08:54 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 09:04 Hello 09:04 Hello hackemslashem, Welcome to #evilhack 09:06 hai 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) genocided locusts, on T:65527 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:65580 09:49 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Gjallar", on T:66379 10:04 wooop 10:04 YASI: new artifact, The Dish Soap of Mobileuser 10:05 applying it to an object makes it indestructible, gives it +10 to-hit/damage, and it's clean 10:05 and perm 'greased' 10:08 well, not greased. it's clean. 10:08 instead, it removes any grease :-) 10:11 perma-nongreased 10:11 slippery 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:66601 10:21 hah aklys skill unlocked :b 10:21 "slippery" sounds better 10:22 when you wish for it, you first have to fight a Mobileuser NPC 10:23 and their AI is very smart and cautious so you better be prepared to struggle 10:23 haha lots of escape items 10:23 just point and yell 'squirrel!' 10:23 he bravely ran away 10:23 brave brave sir robin 10:25 if you rearrange the letters in robin it spells rnobi 10:25 COINCIDENCE? 10:25 yes 10:25 if you rearrange the letters in 'brave sir robin' you get 'amateurhour' 10:26 mind blown 10:26 we've found you out rnobileuser 10:26 :O 10:28 hahah 11:02 if you create The Dish Soap of Mobileuser you have to also add The Everlasting Grease of NetSysFire 11:02 if the two meet they mutually annihilate 11:02 i want a grease elemental 11:04 I thought splice had one, pretty close with the mud/plasma elementals, time to add one! 11:04 YES 11:10 NetSysFire's favorite film - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grease_(film) 11:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:12 hackemslashem there's a cool dnh thing where if you wear a greased clock you can slip through cracks 11:12 i dont actually have a favorite movie K2 11:12 regardless of encumberance 11:12 you do 11:12 it's Grease 11:12 A greased clock is right 0 times a day! 11:12 NetSysFire goes to the cinema and yells WHERE IS GREASE 11:12 lol 11:16 a fire elemental should be able to quaff a can of grease 11:16 what would happen 11:17 would it work like a healing pot? 11:17 yes, and then it belches fire 11:17 maybe it already is able to quaff a can of grease, but it has no reason to 11:19 https://youtu.be/XlgCTmMGK9U?t=32 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Tou Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3280 11:35 K2 i am still unhappy about the iron ball of liberation 11:36 do tell 11:36 in what ways are you unhappy 11:36 the quest artifact duplicates the intrinsic searching convicts get 11:36 but what if a gremlin steals your intrinsic searching? you'll be glad you had the IBoL 11:37 no other quest artifact appears to duplicate such properties 11:37 or what if another role wants the IBoL? 11:37 did you think of that? 11:37 yes but its 300 weight 11:37 its very very costly for that 11:37 also would be epic if you add a damage bonus for convicts to it 11:37 well... it's not the FPoL (fluffy pillow of liberation) 11:37 yes but 300 is still something 11:38 yes. its a solid iron ball 11:38 did you consider making it another material? 11:38 no 11:38 like the wax ball of liberation? 11:38 just kidding 11:38 it cant be the iron ball of liberation if its not made of iron 11:38 YANI: adding grease to an object increases its weight slightly 11:38 just spraypaint it over 11:39 thats a YASI K2 11:39 no 11:39 YANI 11:39 NO 11:39 cuz technically its true 11:39 this is not cataclysm: dda 11:39 qt why wont you play it anymore :( 11:39 more mass in a gravitational field = more weight 11:40 do you know cataclysm: dda K2? its a top-down roguelike zombie apocalypse alien invasion survival horror game with base building elements, crafting, exploration and even magic with mods 11:40 you can become a literal catgirl if you want to 11:41 and you can get killed by blackberry bushes 11:41 i dont know of it 11:41 i am a contributor and member of its triage team 11:41 https://cataclysmdda.org/ 11:41 the blackberry bushes i can believe, i earn new scars every year doing yard work because of them 11:42 it also has woodchucks 11:43 neat 11:46 how about you rename the iron ball of liberation to unyielding ball of liberation 11:47 no 11:47 anyways one proposal i have is that you give it a damage bonus (in the hands of a convict) 11:48 no, it does a massive amount of damage as-is 11:48 >:( 11:48 anyways, pick one for the iron substitution: https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/iron 11:48 hmm 11:48 no 11:51 cant you at least make the ball lighter when your alignment is good 11:51 or something 11:51 no 11:51 its a solid iron ball. its heavy 11:52 but magic 11:52 the iron ball of liberation is such a bummer in contrast to the other quest artifacts 11:53 i dont think you understand the convict role 11:53 not fully 11:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 835 points, T:1371, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:54 i dont 11:54 see my death 11:54 K2: yes its a challenge but 11:57 oh and re the fire elemental and grease again, it would be fun if you could throw a can of grease (or potion of oil) at a fire elemental and there will be a fiery explosion around it 11:57 or a potion of water 11:57 The water slides right off your large box. <--- wasnt expecting that 11:57 NetSysFire yeah that'd be neat 11:57 Wasn't there a spoon of liberation? 11:57 i think dnh changed it to that 11:57 amateurhour would know 11:58 there is no spoon 11:58 Ah yea, dnh has it right 12:01 and you can drop a potion of water or grease/oil inside a fire elemental to get expelled along with a fiery explosion 12:09 in dnh you get the iron ball of levitation from your quest leader when you start the quest 12:09 and the quest artifact from the nemesis is the iron spoon of liberation 12:09 so two quest artis rly 12:09 and the iron ball of levitation is epic 12:10 actually both artifacts are pretty good (note you can't wish for quest artis in dnh at all) 12:13 ah, so boxes are considered waterproof 12:13 but have a chance to leak if cursed 12:13 neat 12:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1038 points, T:1522, killed by a pony 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:1201 12:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 586 points, T:2421, killed by a werejackal 12:27 the iron ball weights negative so actually improves carrycap 12:28 (in dnh) 12:28 I wonder if vanilla will ever add convict, I hope so 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2058 12:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1254 points, T:2764, killed by a giant bat 12:37 dammit 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 2932 points, T:2862, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 12:42 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/cfdf41a4335f...93fa996cded7 12:42 [EvilHack] k21971 93fa996 - Allow looting of containers that are in water. 12:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 451 points, T:1499, killed by a water elemental 13:01 k2 it looks like that change will allow you to loot an underwater chest even if you're flying above the water 13:02 i suspect it should instead change '&& (looting || !Underwater)' to '&& !Underwater' 13:04 ah 13:04 i'm silly 13:04 thanks 13:05 does it cause the items inside to be water damaged or anything? 13:05 i guess not 13:05 no, see the commit notes 13:06 i see 13:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:28 The hobbit wields a cloth sling! The hobbit shoots a steel shiny stone at someone! 13:28 it was a zombie. it should be something. literally unplayble 13:30 yeah, "someone" is just 'a humanoid monster' which can be a bit strange 13:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 941 points, T:1939, killed by a giant mosquito 13:30 ffs 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:67004 13:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 408 points, T:1478, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:67404 13:39 it seems I have to work through all the junk first... 13:50 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±13] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/93fa996cded7...b8f2045af4e5 13:50 [EvilHack] k21971 b8f2045 - New object: goggles. 13:51 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±13] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/b8f2045af4e5...88e39a1a79a6 13:51 [EvilHack] k21971 88e39a1 - New object: goggles. 13:52 ^ typo in commit msg 13:54 New object: googles 13:54 :) 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:67571 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:67756 14:05 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/88e39a1a79a6...79505ad987ce 14:05 [EvilHack] k21971 79505ad - Fix: quirk with underwater vision. 14:05 unfortunately I prefer my GoP... 14:16 YANI: swimming within x number of turns after eating has adverse effects 14:17 i always used to get yelled at as a kid, dont swim within one hour after eating 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:1644 14:36 apparently moms across the globe were wrong 14:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3468 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una) made his first wish - "+2 fixed silver dragon scales", on T:3486 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:68184 14:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 3096 points, T:3697, quit 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:50, killed by a sewer rat 15:05 mobileuser, do you wear goggles when doing the dishes? 15:08 when doing the dishes underwater 15:08 hah 15:08 'do the dishes!' 'ok ok, lemme get my swim trunks on' 15:09 krm26 how's it going 15:11 Going ok -- haven't been so talkative because instead of playing nethack i've been moving an ancient game of mine over from extinct computing land to python/curses for terminal play 15:12 oh nice 15:12 what kind of game is it? 15:12 it is a roguelike 15:12 it was called "thumper" on the plato/novanet systems 15:12 rougelike? 15:12 you start with an axe and wander around islands dying like a dog without being able to figure out how to win 15:13 sounds legit 15:13 there was a really cool bug that i am not gonna duplicate where you could flood an island with invisible item-stealing sylphs until you couldn't move 15:14 its "mechanic-justifying-its-existence" vs all the other roguelinkes of the time (this was in the late 80s) was you didn't level, and the challenge was figuring out what stuff worked against what monsters 15:15 there are these qualia, and each game their "cosmetic attributes" are randomized, so you have to figure out that THIS game iron, doubleweave, ash wood, and blue are the same qualia and they kill undead 15:15 and then get your hands on some blue armor or an ash wood bow or whatever before you engage the mean vampire 15:15 it was really challenging to implement at the time because of the incredibly tight data storage -- everything was crunched bit by bit 15:16 reimplementing in python is like a dream 15:16 sounds kinda like dungeons of daggorath 15:16 but i've spent a lot of time making python curses work properly 15:16 not familiar with that! outside of actual nethack i'm not that familiar with post-early-80s roguelikes 15:16 i've been trying to motivate myself to really work on evilhack more than I have been 15:17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_of_Daggorath 15:17 well in a month i can motivate you with threats of instead betatesting my shit 15:17 ^ first dungeon crawl i ever played on a computer 15:17 oh i've seen that before 15:18 it was *hard* 15:18 realtime is always a bitch 15:18 and it'd freak you out, monsters could sneak up on you, and your heart literally pounds in game as you exert yourself 15:18 the closest to realtime play ive ever enjoyed in a non-fps was avatar on plato/novanet, which had a "turn pulse" of about 3 seconds, so it was pseudorealtime 15:19 the sound in that game was incredible 15:19 i had a trs-80 model iii, never a color 15:19 i have 2 of them, one still works 15:19 but i just figured out how to get my wife and daughter to give me more time to work on this python thing...setting up a ps5 for them 15:20 hah 15:20 K2 no I don't 15:20 :b 15:20 here, play on this ps5, leave me alone 15:20 lol mobileuser 15:20 hmm does zork count as a dungeon crawl? 15:20 sure zork counts 15:20 ok then that's my first ever dungeon crawl on a puter 15:21 DoD would be my first one with visuals 15:21 department of defense 15:22 my first woulda been on plato again (with department of defense funding :-) -- oub, the grandfather of all dungeon games 15:22 1978 15:22 multiplayer 3d wireframe dungeon crawl with realtime spellcasting in combat 15:23 the harder the spell was the longer the name you had to type 15:23 feaminamor feaminamor 15:23 heh 15:24 robert woodhead, garriot, all those guys who produced the first "visual" dungeon games had played this stuff on plato first 15:24 https://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-12-oubliette-1977.html 15 races, 15 roles/classes 15:24 how many of those are original to the first release i wonder 15:25 definitely not all 15:25 it is funny how videogame history is completely ignorant of the throughline from oub, dnd (the plato one), avatar, bnd etc to modern games 15:25 that's awesome 15:25 definitely sounds like it had a big influence on wizardry 15:26 including "If your character dies, he can be found, returned to the town, and resurrected by another adventurer (or dumped in the morgue)--or you can delete and start over." 15:26 the tunnels, reminds me of 'tunnels of doom' on the ti-99/4a 15:26 yeah 15:26 avatar softened the nigh-on-permadeath of oub and melee 15:26 which is why we were able to get about 120 simultaneous users 15:27 which was scary, because the loops on 15 could only handle about 4 groups of end-game characters before they bled dry 15:31 This was the game I worked on (the '90s iteration of it, not the Maggs/Sides original): http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2013/11/game-124-avatar-1979.html 15:32 cool. could play it right now at https://www.cyber1.org/ 15:32 in fact you're credited on there 15:32 Avatar: Bruce Maggs, Andrew Shapira, David Sides; later work by Tom Kirchman, Greg Janusz, Mark Eastom, Kevin Maxson, Chris Alix, John Hegarty, Felix Ortony 15:32 they don't have a recent version 15:33 John Hegarty and I took the full source for the cyber emulator and the entire plato/novanet system, including the most recent avatar stuff 15:33 "The bolt of fire hits willisllama the green slime!" I thought fire would instantly kill green slime, or is that only with fire weapons? 15:33 i can spin up an entire system on my pc 15:33 nice 15:33 it is both amazing and sad, since i'm the single user 15:34 and even sadder considering the k-12 educational software and learning management systems on it are still better than ANYTHING i've seen in a florida school district by a MILE 15:34 novanet was the only cbe provider who gave a shit about pedagogical correctness and proving results 15:35 "Willisllama the green slime ignites and turns to ash!" 15:35 yeah needed a fire weapon 15:36 no livelog for "ghost kill"... 15:36 interesting 15:36 yeah i think it only logs for actual ghosts 15:37 i see peltz is still helping cyber1 out -- he was one of my standout engineers 15:37 don't know any of the other folks 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3187 15:39 i'm surprised there are 15 people on cyber1 right now 15:39 i guess that's not that many in the grand scheme of things, but it seems like a niche interest 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 19 wooden shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2527 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 19 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3299 15:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 4383 points, T:5914, killed by a giant mosquito, while fainted from lack of food 16:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 853 points, T:1862, crunched in the head by an iron ball 16:05 I think the plan for evilhack for next version will be - bug fixes, the new underwater branch, tweak goblin town, make a significant change to the asc run, and implement other stuff. i think the new race/role will need to wait 16:06 i'd like to release before tnnt starts. as in the next 2-3 weeks 16:06 sorry drow and druids. on the back burner yet again 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 15 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:6116 16:10 release it mid tnnt to tactically lure some players away 16:10 wait most evilhack people are teamsplat, ignore that bad plan 16:12 if i dont release before 1st week of october, i'll wait until after tnnt 16:12 depends how much work the underwater branch + the asc run idea I have is 16:12 what is the ascension run idea? 16:12 or is it a secret 16:13 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L28 16:13 now that ascension.run is kill K2 has an evil plan to take it over 16:14 but it's a massive undertaking to do correctly 16:14 it is 16:14 or will be 16:14 it will be for Future You 16:14 heh, sucker 16:14 glad that's not you 16:14 now me 16:14 not future me 16:15 oh have you started on it? 16:15 in my head 16:15 and some notes on paper 16:15 i think line 6 on the etherpad might be fixed by a vanilla patch i submitted 16:15 oh yeah? neat 16:16 d3d5f7f 16:16 line 12 might have been fixed in vanilla today 16:16 yup i saw that 16:16 the other day 16:16 is there a way to tip contents of a bag straight into a box on the floor? 16:16 oh the other day yeah 16:16 its on my to-do as well as the gelcube engulf things that qt pointed out 16:16 not yet mobi 16:16 but PatR noted it as weird too 16:16 thx amateurhour 16:16 you can in gnollhack I think? 16:16 vanilla should just take xnh container transfer 16:17 its too late 16:17 too late for what 16:17 Pat has it on his radar now, he'll do his own thing 16:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 716 points, T:2070, killed by a guardian naga hatchling, while fainted from lack of food 16:17 if it's as good as xnh container transfer i'll be just as happy 16:18 maybe someone should open an issue about containers underwater 16:18 curious what the dev team would decide to do for it 16:19 water really should rush into a container if you open it underwater 16:19 i wasnt expecting boxes/chests to be water tight but they are hah 16:20 that's one thing that could be done, but do the items you take out get hit too 16:20 and one round of water damage or many? 16:20 water damage over time to contents once water is in? 16:20 ten thousand rounds of water damage 16:20 etc etc 16:20 items floating away sometimes? 16:20 if you're underwater, and you loot a container and take things out of it, its then subject to the water_damage() routine (open inventory) 16:20 we need every item to list whether it sinks or floats 16:20 :) 16:21 heh 16:21 once the water gets in the box though you could imagine them being submerged 16:21 yeah 16:21 would be a bit of work 16:22 idk I'm just curious what the dev team would do 16:22 kinda fun for a mundane niche thing 16:22 all im saying is we got a system for glob shrinkage so underwater boxes should be real 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:7382 16:23 glob costanza 16:24 do globs shrink at the same rate underwater 16:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:24 depends on depth/pressure 16:24 does salt water affect it? 16:25 salt water from the atlantic or pacific ocean? 16:25 the whole 'swallow carrying a coconut' bit 16:26 fun fact - you can create potions of salt water in sporkhack 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:8230 16:29 K2: the whole "The dog is resurrected!" vs "Fido is resurrected!" described in the etherpad -- I think it's deliberate, not a bug, since it intentionally uses the version of mon_nam that doesn't include the monster's given name 16:30 aosdict thought it was a bug 16:30 but if its really not, i'll remove that entry 16:31 the issue is that when you zap undead turning at a named monster's corpse, it says "The little dog is resurrected!" instead of "Jimmy the Hound is resurrected!" 16:31 just want to make sure i understand it right 16:31 (there should have been a question mark after that description of it) 16:32 yeah i think this is more of a personal pref rather than a bug 16:33 it does seem to deliberately avoid using the name in that context, but it would be an easy change if you want: https://termbin.com/lmwc 16:33 could ask Pat why he did it that way 16:33 hmm 16:34 it was aosdict that brought it up if i recall 16:35 aosdict by the way, travel by rail in the US is about to come to a screeching halt 16:35 (actually this would be the more idiomatic way to do it I think, though it'd have the same effect https://termbin.com/evfc) 16:35 K2: why? 16:36 several egional rail agencies are about to strike 16:36 *regional 16:36 oh yeah I think I did hear about that 16:37 it'll affect delivery of certain goods and services, plus cripple personal travel 16:37 i thought it was freight rail though 16:37 i didn't realize it included passenger trains 16:37 right but if they shut down the lines, it affects anything that uses them 16:37