00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a silver large shield entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:32280 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:22687 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:25891 02:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:29427 02:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class h), on T:29489 03:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:11 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:37 I was expecting lots of rebatela asc run backscroll, but there's not a lot after I left :-) 04:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 99 points, T:287, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted sewer rat 04:45 mobileuser: yeah i got too drunk too play lol 04:45 got the amulet tho! 04:51 hi! :-) 04:52 nice work! 04:52 yeah... now the hard part lol 04:52 wtf was demo doing in molochs? 04:52 is that a new thing? 04:53 no, but sometimes there's a random demon boss there I've noticed... 04:53 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:55 in gehennom they can sometimes get summoned by creatures that can summon nasties, I once had a game where a titan summoned Demo 04:55 right 04:56 fingers crossed you won't get (too) many MR wizards 04:57 were they there from when the level was created? 04:57 soon as i went down stairs yeah 04:57 ...is that intended? 04:57 excellent question 05:02 Rodney harassment timing 05:02 ? 05:04 Umbire this was about Demogorgon showing up in the sanctum 05:05 if it's unintended then any des file that adds a random & in the same way could in principle add demon lord 05:07 Sounds likely. 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:59811 05:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:40835 05:39 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:40856 05:46 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:50 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:53 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:41364 06:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 06:04 soooo i should put the eyes in my bag right ? 06:04 cuz inevitably im gonna have to melee him? 06:04 and he gonna steal? 06:05 if you have to melee then presumably they have MR so does it matter at that point? 06:07 well i dont want the shit stolen? eyes of overworld and eota 06:08 it sucks if they steal it and then teleport... hard to find when double trouble etc. lol 06:08 i dunno. been almost a year since i've done this 06:08 idk I don't have any good advice 06:08 i wish i could just give this titan the amulet... 06:08 in general? you have great advice 06:09 i forgot to mass bless all my stuff too. lots of little mistakes i'm making 06:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:29 made it to valley. phew 06:32 5 rodneys no MR yet.... 06:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:80964 06:33 goddamn double trouble 06:33 triple? 06:33 wtf is this 06:36 oh you're on eu 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law), 832701 points, T:43028, turned to slime by a green slime 06:38 not wearing a cloak rebatela? 06:38 wearing cloak of mr 06:38 ah I see now, sorry 06:38 in case he steals eyes 06:39 it's funny the thing giant pets will gather... 06:39 god only knows what's in that sack 06:39 probably a bunch of rocks and shit 06:39 yeah 06:40 triple trouble? as in 3 at same time? 06:40 that happened to someone else in the past but it's not meant to 06:41 oh no he STOLE THE EYES 06:41 and i didn't notice 06:41 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 06:41 I think with the wizard potentially having like -100 AC (exaggeration) and MR double trouble is kinda nuts 06:41 especially if it does make 3 simultaneously 06:41 I'M GOING B ACK 06:41 no one takes the eyes of the overworld from ME 06:41 NO ONE 06:42 damn.. i was wondering why i was getting stunned etc. from the magic eye 06:42 rebatela maybe fix that cloak first? 06:43 in case it gets totally burned up? 06:43 read my mind 06:43 heh 06:43 you were already on the case :-) 06:49 i don't think it was three at the same time just got double trouble and then he came right back? i wish i noticed when he stole the eyes though because they were probably right there on the ground 06:50 doesn't really matter.. i put eota in my bag. probably will take it out for astral for the PW 06:50 (if i make it there) 06:52 I have gone back looking for stolen artifacts though... it's not that bad if you hide the amulet under a rock or something you can teleport 06:52 problem is i have zero clue where that happened 06:53 stolen artifacts? 06:53 yeah like when the wizard steals something? 06:53 happens to me all the time. you must be lucky 06:54 what got stolen? 06:54 you've never had the amulet stolen? that's when the game gets fun... 06:54 he stole eyes of overworld 06:54 i put eota in my bag 06:54 but i was wearing the other eyes 06:54 oh I confused the eyes 06:54 i had them both 06:55 It does happen to me too btw ;-) 06:55 lol i would hope so 06:56 the very first time it happened to me was in vanilla when it first changed where he would steal another role's artifact and i was relying on it for mr 06:56 and it was PYEC so not only did i not have MR, but now rodney DID 06:57 deadly 06:57 luckily i had a wish and was able to rubber chicken... 06:58 rubber chicken is unfortunately less effective in evilhack... 06:58 hehe yeah i don't even think about it 07:10 mobi how do you usually deal with a -50 ac wizard with MR? 07:11 or was it someone else that had that 07:11 well it helps that they don't actually have -50 ac 07:12 but I think krm26 got unlucky once with -30 or something 07:12 usually it's like -19 I think 07:12 I remember someone had a -40 on water plane maybe? 07:12 krm26 07:13 and I doubt it was -40 07:14 how do you usually deal with the wiz when they have nuts ac and MR? 07:15 boulder fort if not in planes? 07:16 if wizard or infidel I can blow them away with cone of cold. otherwise I have to hope my melee is good enough. 07:16 I usually try to think of anti-wizard weapons 07:16 the knight game was nice with the mithril lance of cold 07:17 some roles do have quite a problem on the asc run... 07:18 eg priest is not great 07:19 in general I don't really like the MR wizard change, it's a lottery and it makes some roles/races more attractive than others 07:23 i just killed him like 7 times with death wand 07:23 total luck of the draw 07:26 the worst is that it misses just naturally a couple times and you still don't know if he has mr or if it just missing? 07:26 sometimes I zap probing at him first :-) 07:26 ahhhh 07:27 does that take a turn? 07:27 i definitely underuse those wands 07:27 if you're very fast you get away with it most of the time... 07:27 nice 07:55 what did you do on your priests then? 07:55 sorry for lots of questions it's just that you tend to know what to do in all situations 07:55 and have played/won lots of games on varied roles so have seen most things that could happen 08:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:27 I'm simply not going to play priest anymore, problem solved ;-) 08:29 not impossible of course: 08:29 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1658242349.evil.html 08:30 but I won't enjoy starting another priest when I know that bad Rodney rolls can kill me in the end 08:35 if you're very patient I guess you can go all "Grasshopper" of course and lots of damage and accuracy rings etc. If they are edible. 08:37 * eat lots of rings 08:38 I think you know how not patient I am so I'd never do that :P 08:39 have you done/what would you do on a weaponless monk? 08:41 potions of paralysis, nuke with cone of cold 08:41 monk is not advanced on cone of cold 08:41 so 1 reflection spell and end of fun 08:41 its still a viable attack 08:42 sans reflection 08:42 oh hey, shurikens of frost 08:42 yes, I aim for frost weapons in general 08:43 and if you can get The Hand of Vecna... 08:45 yup 08:46 surprised paralysis isnt used more often. no monster is immune to that 08:46 thing that works before a certain point works before a certain point, thanks K2 :P 08:47 para potions are kind of annoying to use though 08:47 throwing them misses so often for some reason (dnh changed this somewhat recently iirc?) 08:47 so most people wield and smash 08:47 but wielding and smashing needs to beat an ac check or something 08:47 and needs you to have free action 08:47 /rant 08:47 unskilled check in evilhack 08:48 so even less likely? 08:48 the dnh change was making thrown offensive potions like sleep/para/poly land way more often I think 08:49 "If the player tries to hit a monster with a weapon they are restricted/unskilled in, or any non-weapon object, they'll never have better than a 75% chance of landing a hit (bare-handed is exempt)." 08:49 I don't know about AC checks for non-weapons 08:49 yikes 08:53 And potions in main inventory are vulnerable to cold/fire spells of course. Para potions are a valid strat, but you still need luck on your side. 08:54 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/549a3659eeff3f0e11f8f8d0e5b11384d911d43a 08:56 I never saw that as a big problem, at some point you will have free action and sleep res... 08:56 but still nice 08:57 yeah next version it'll be a bit easier to whack things with potions 08:58 that to-hit display will be nice too, give you an idea of what your chances will be 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:32362 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32364 09:11 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:764 09:17 K2 I see all undead creatures in the valley even though I am not wielding Sunsword ((alternate weapon; not wielded) 09:17 and I see Charon too... 09:17 !whereis mobileuser 09:17 K2: [hdf-us] mobileuser [evil]: (Tou Hob Fem Neu) T:61126 Gehennom level: 28 09:18 I am not blind either 09:18 what happens if sunsword is not an alt weapon 09:18 oh Charon is undead too 09:18 yes 09:19 lemme try... 09:19 I did "x" twice, now my vision is gone 09:19 ok, suspected as much 09:20 krm26's patch is allowing detection to work if the weapon is an alt but not wielded 09:20 speaking of krm26, havent seen much from him lately :( 09:21 hate it when real life gets in the way 09:21 mobileuser, enjoy it while you can hah :P 09:22 heh 09:26 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:33178 09:29 I wonder if Charon is no longer peaceful because I have wielded Sunsword 09:50 today is gonna be fun. one of the finance managers laptop stopped working completely, cant even boot into system bios. backups for the win 09:50 configuring new laptop weee 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2216 10:10 damn, how long does invisibilty-by-boojum last K2? :-) 10:11 as long as amateurhour wills it 10:11 hah 10:11 :P 10:11 for someone who doesnt play the game, his influence is strong 10:12 it's one of those mysteries 10:12 the yummy wraiths won't follow me anymore 10:13 have you showered lately? 10:14 well I have been inside a sea dragon? 10:14 what about inside a water elemental 10:14 lol at this: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/04518bab7090c658aed26695c959ab02eebeb321 10:15 "It will behoove the player to kill the wizard of Yendor as soon as possible - letting him cast clonewiz() and getting some of the monsters that can appear will be a bit more difficult." 10:16 I haven't played much of anything recently, still constantly out of energy, only occasional relaxing ndnh combos and shitposting in irc 10:16 behoove 10:16 mobileuser :P 10:16 UUS army folk like to use the word 'behoove' 10:16 US 10:17 mobi it's 6d100 invis 10:17 per attack maybe 10:17 @e?snark 10:17 snark (J) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 18 | Res: disintegrate | Confers: disintegrate | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d6 bite physical, 2d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, nopoly, infravisible 10:17 @e?boojum 10:17 boojum (J) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire disintegrate shock | Confers: fire disintegrate shock | MR: 90 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 0d0 claw teleport | Alignment: 0 | Flags: carnivore, flies, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 10:18 right, I should take a break from wraith hunting and do some altar camping to pass the time... 10:18 it increments it so each attack would add 6d100 10:19 thx amateurhour 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7245 11:01 backscroll: mobileuser: sucks when you're a giant with the wraiths... can't wear mummy wrap when you become invisible 11:03 i ended up drinking potions to level up in this game iirc . i had SO many wishes, so much shit because of bones. Kind of an unfair game and will be a shame when i splat 11:03 oh that's right GL is smoky! 11:04 so that's backfired a few times.. i'm sure i got a couple wishes but i've drank some cursed ones in times of need and gotten "freed me" instead 11:04 happened in molochs 11:04 dammit everytime i try to talk to mobileuser he gone 11:04 anyway i'm talking to all of you... sucks when smoky is full healling or gain level etc.. 11:06 i hadn't played this game in so long so i forgot and i'm trying to nope the F out of the sanctum - Why the F does my titan have a pet djinn? 11:07 speaking of leveling up, I don't like the diminishing returns with PW change. Is that vanilla stuff or evil? 11:11 dont forget about cursed wands of make invis 11:11 do tell 11:11 what happens? 11:11 if its cursed it'll make you vis 11:11 insteadeath? 11:11 nooooooooooo shit? 11:11 wow 11:11 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4bcc3e71d3ea4d99daca3337b19c8775949e11c4 11:13 love it 11:18 do i take all these artifact weapons with me and go for high score? lol i have quite the collection for playing weaponless (don't have the conduct) 11:30 if score is important to you, sure 11:35 oh now i got TWO titans again... 11:44 now dispater on DL1 wtf 11:44 one of the craziest games i've ever played 11:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:82009 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:82028 11:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:82036 11:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:82042 11:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:82042 11:52 what did she do with the frost brand? 11:52 damn it 11:53 goddamn titan had a +7 frost brand the entire game and i make it to the planes and shes stabbing things with a unihorn... 11:54 oh no!!! 11:55 i stepped on portal and lost them 11:55 oh well 12:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:82295 12:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:82311 12:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:82333 12:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5002644 points, T:82373, ascended 12:11 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1653477904.evil.html 12:18 congrats rebatela \o/ 12:18 thanks man 12:20 15 wishes... 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a large shield entrusted to him by Mog, on T:11009 12:29 you're a machine rebatela 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Mog, on T:11494 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:11791 12:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 13:26 wow, congrats rebatela! 13:26 I missed the ascension... 13:30 lol the woolly mammoth treatment 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Wiz Gia Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:5434 14:15 woolly rain 14:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 51 points, T:228, killed by a newt 14:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 195 points, T:513, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:30 did evilhack make it so you can loot containers underwater? 14:30 if not that should maybe happen for atlantis branch if that's ever real 14:31 huh... not anything i've ever thought about 14:31 good call 14:32 not sure what _should_ happen when you do that or anything 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 439 points, T:1312, killed by an orc zombie 14:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 20 points, T:44, killed by a sewer rat 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] johnnyteapot (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2423 points, T:1960, diseased by a human zombie 15:17 'You cannot loot things that are deep in the water.' 15:17 ^ large box/chest 15:17 same for bags 15:17 now, if it's in your inventory, no prob 15:18 on the ground? no bueno 15:20 i'll need to address that 15:37 just allowing it to work would be easy 15:37 I just suspect it was never added to vanilla because they expected other stuff to maybe happen when you did it 15:38 like all objects inside getting water damaged for example 15:38 or objects floating away idk 15:38 same with chests in lava (however that'd be possible lol idk) 15:39 ah, Charon is not peaceful but still meditating 15:39 better not talk to him 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:62374 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:62383 16:35 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 17:16 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hob Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:63840 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4669 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Orc Mal Una), 8652 points, T:5730, killed by a giant mimic 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:28544 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3080 points, T:2405, killed by an Uruk-hai 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 2206 points, T:5258, killed by an orc zombie 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:29889 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29891 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:30056 20:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:7000 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Ran Cen Fem Neu) stole 300 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Chicoutimi's general store, on T:7354 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] CaptSplat (Ran Cen Fem Neu), 9436 points, T:7474, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3212 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 5478 points, T:5047, killed by a giant watchman 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 13224 points, T:6423, killed by an elven queen 22:51 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Tou Gno Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1523