00:13 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 00:15 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Client Quit] 00:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3844 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12770 points, T:7046, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a potion 01:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:34 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1475 points, T:1877, poisoned by a gray fungus, while helpless 02:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10451 03:13 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:13215 03:20 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Con Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:13659 03:22 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:10 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Con Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed ring of conflict", on T:18335 04:11 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 42149 points, T:18352, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 05:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1061 points, T:2161, poisoned by a water moccasin 05:17 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 05:20 Anyone know when K2 is back? Or could anyone help me with a building issue I'm having? For some reason, whenever I push HackEM to github, it's building the linux and mac versions okay, but the windows build fails because win_bison isn't getting installed or something 05:24 Hmm, the winflexbison link must be bad now 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:75466 05:26 on 26th or so 05:26 maybe the great wizard qt may be able to help you 05:32 Well the link looks good, so this is something up the pipeline I'm very unfamiliar with, I've also never used YML so no idea what I'm getting into now 05:34 Something to do with Chocolatey... 05:52 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:10 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 07:05 EPI: I didn't have obj detect in soko, so I thought to explode a gas spore next to the doors. But the doors were not affected. They should've been blown away! 07:08 why is that EPI and not evilhack YANI? 07:13 Isn't YANI a general, all-variants improvement? 07:13 I didn't think it really applies to vanilla because it doesn't matter which door you pick? 07:15 EPI is meant to mean Evil Patch Idea, evil not referring to evilhack specifically 07:16 quoting the wiki: 07:16 > An Evil Patch Idea, often abbreviated to EPI, is a YANI for NetHack that is considered to be a terrible idea either by its creator or the community, because if it were implemented, it would greatly increase the amount of frustration or annoyance in the game while having no particular redeeming qualities: a way for the game designers to be evil to the players 07:16 Ah! 07:16 I had thought it was "Evil Proposement Idea"! 07:20 easy to think that for sure 07:21 aosdict gathers all mentions of "YANI" and then adds them to https://nethack-yanis.github.io/index.html and tags them with the appropriate variant (where relevant) 07:22 but EPI just gets ignored by that process 07:25 Ah, interesting, so if I do a 'YANI' in this channel, it'll be tagged against Evilhack? 07:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:10226 07:26 Damn, accidentally knocked down teh wrong door. But luckily, magic markers are cool! 07:26 I was attacking a mimic. 07:27 Now, I just need to find a random reflection *and* a random MR. 07:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a red dragon, on T:10303 07:27 ... And a random robe... 07:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat (soldier) for the first time, on T:10306 07:29 How did I taste meat? 07:34 yep thats right 07:37 Stupid dwarf king with a wand of polymorph. :( 07:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 56056 points, T:10384, petrified by a cockatrice 07:38 Darn. That's an instant death, figured I'd have a few turns. 07:48 arahael: it will be tagged against evilhack *if* it is evilhack specific like crystal chests or ice queen's realm or something. if the idea is variant agnostic or reliant on one generic feature in multiple variants, it won't be tagged for a specific variant 07:49 Ah, interesting. 07:53 (to avoid any tendency for someone browsing to see an idea and go "oh well, that's for evilhack, so I'll skip it" and then miss implementing something cool that actually doesn't depend on it being in evilhack 07:53 Ah! Fair enough! 07:54 So I should mark them all as YASI's instead - I was somehow thinking that was *only* for vanilla. 07:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:55 you want to mark them as YASI specifically so I don't see them? cause occasionally I do look at them to see if there's a kernel of a salvageable idea buried in the unbalanced suggestion 07:56 Oh, YANI! 07:57 So will repeat the above one, then, to get my practice juices flowing: 07:57 YANI: I didn't have obj detect in soko, so I thought to explode a gas spore next to the doors. But the doors were not affected. They should've been blown away! 08:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1809 08:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:48 mobileuser: you need an edit summary on the nethackwiki now 08:50 I always feel like, somebody's waaaatching me... 08:53 (sorry, eighties song popped into my head) 08:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3740 points, T:2535, killed by a piranha 09:10 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:13 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:19 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:43307 11:56 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:4816 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:44227 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:45863 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:46432 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) destroyed the invisible dgoddard's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6169 12:53 Anyone have experience building evil on windows? 13:10 I'm trying to build in WIndows 10 and getting "'test' is not recognized as an internal or external command" 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6957 13:14 I suspect it's a QT thing, which I have not installed 13:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:19 omg, qt 5 requires 68.5GB of free space to install, which I am a bit short of 13:19 Hope I can trim that down a bit... jeesh 13:20 all i require to install is a small closet and a few crusts of bread each day 13:21 woohoo! 13:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:10070 13:22 hmm, this can't be right, I deselected some obvious stuff, still requiring 37.5GB! 13:25 hackemslashem: this says it is huge by default because it includes "mingw 32 bit, visual studio 32 and 64 bit, android development, windows development, and some more" 13:25 https://forum.qt.io/topic/90653/qt-versions-and-disk-space/5 13:26 he writes some information about what (supposedly) you actually need and what you don't 13:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) averted death (zombified by a kobold zombie), on T:10387 13:28 Hi hackemslashem 13:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:50 Hey Umbire! 13:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 381 points, T:1479, zombified by a gnome zombie, while helpless 13:50 How's it go. 13:50 Just finished dinner so now I can hopefully solve this windows problem 13:51 tx qt - for the qt help 13:52 Spent the last 2 days fixing all the annoying compiler warnings I've been ignoring up til now, so getting the windows build to work is the final gauntlet for the week 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 34 points, T:21, killed by a boulder 13:53 Trying to learn from Kes cause she talks about the "technical debt" that has accrued, and I see now how that is an easy problem to let happen 13:56 i'm a believer in technical MMT 13:56 there's nothing wrong with technical debt 13:57 we can just print more developers and make the technical debt go away? 13:57 technical debt isnt rly debt its the mess u leave for the suckers that buy ur startup 13:58 Personally I don't care - but I just don't want other people to see all the crap I ignored lol 13:58 amateurhour: or, if you work in a large company, the mess you leave for the scrubs who will be maintaining the client critical systems ten or twenty years after you left the team 14:00 So, getting back to qt - is the bare minimum just the Sources for nethack? Can't imagine I'd need much else 14:00 do you need to compile with it in? 14:00 or can you just slap the disable QT config in or whatever 14:01 Woot, that is only 3.8 GB 14:01 Well, I dunno. Don't I need qt to run the tiles version? 14:01 how important is it that you support all the windowports? many variants take the "default windowport and server build is all I care to support" approach, and some *only* the server build 14:03 I didn't have any qt stuff enabled in Makefile.gcc, and I was getting the error "'test' is not recognized as an internal or external command,". So I'm not really sure what the problem is, if it's a qt thing or what 14:04 Try to compile in Powershell, Win10 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47793 14:06 are you trying to fix the github action or something? 14:07 Right now I'm just trying to compile locally 14:08 I'll have to ask K2 about the github problem lol 14:08 but the latest failed action suggests it's a compilation problem 14:08 https://github.com/elunna/hackem/runs/7920197270?check_suite_focus=true#step:5:292 14:09 Hmm thought I fixed that 14:12 Actually, that looks like something with Visual studio, anyway, something I need K2 or an expert on because I have no idea on this deployment stuff 14:13 The linux and mac builds work are working, so there's that :P 14:13 it's not wrong to throw a compilation error there, it's just more zealous than the other compilers 14:14 needs a guard for mtmp 14:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:17 Ok I see a solution now... 14:17 Shove everything in "if (mtmp)" 14:18 yeah 14:18 good catch by the compiler, better than a crash 14:19 *pats the compiler on the head* 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 861 points, T:3653, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:30 Well I fixed that issue, but back to the win_bison not working thing, which feels out of my control right now 14:35 that's failing because the install in setup isn't working 14:35 I seem to recall this was failing for evilhack not that long ago 14:35 I wonder how it was resolved there 14:35 yup, i saw that, something with a chocately installer? 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) stole 3826 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ouiatchouane's general store, on T:1614 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 574 points, T:1686, killed by Ms. Ouiatchouane; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 14:36 It's weird because it looks like it's installing at one point, then it tries again and fails a few lines later.. 14:46 I don't really understand how it's failing there, compare your latest failed job with latest successful job in evilhack 14:46 makes no sense 14:47 either the url it downloads winbison from is flaky (possible) 14:47 or somehow the runner environment just randomly doesn't support TLS or something 14:50 It's weird, I've been looking into it today 14:50 Help me Obi-K2, you are my only hope 14:51 like TLS version problems amateurhour? 14:51 I am in Sweden, and K2 is US - I thought there could be an issue there... 14:53 But I don't know how to change the download link if so, it's just done: "choco install winflexbison" 14:56 Locally, I'm gonna give a try compiling with VS 2022 .. using the 2017 solution lol 14:57 I estimate this will take 2 bottle of wine, and 10 hours 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 122 points, T:607, killed by a dart 15:03 Or 2 hours and 10 bottles of wine... 15:10 yeah mobileuser but no idea how it'd be fine in the evilhack repo and not the hackem one 15:14 well there's different versions of the action runner I suppose 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:50150 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:50167 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) refused to give up The Tsurugi of Muramasa to Lord Sato, on T:50549 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1748 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1439 points, T:2665, killed by a potion of acid 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:51601 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:51848 15:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:39678 15:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:39742 15:54 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:40713 16:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:15 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:11838 16:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:47616 17:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:50709 17:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:53815 18:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 285286 points, T:54760, petrified by Medusa 18:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:07 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 228 points, T:834, killed by a giant bat 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:22830 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:22956 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:23216 21:52 [EvilHack] NetSysFire forked the repository - https://github.com/NetSysFire 21:53 !tell hackemslashem over the last few weeks the github actions routine that grabs the necessary files needed to compile on windows hasn't been able to get the winbison files. it's been hit or miss, just keep trying every so often 21:53 K2: Message from Umbire at 2022-08-12 10:40 EDT: Do player monsters knights and Knight quest guardians grudge against dragons? 21:53 K2: Message from qt at 2022-08-18 11:27 EDT: you may want to take inspiration from https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2108abd30d6a5c4a67ddcfdeb196e7cb68a6b78f w/r/t extending the effect to pets 21:53 hackemslashem shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 21:53 Umbire no they dont 21:54 [EvilHack] NetSysFire opened pull request #101: tribute: typo fix - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/101 21:54 Interesting that they don't 21:54 !tell qt cool thanks! 21:54 No worries, K2, I've got this! 21:55 K2: one thing thats new we discussed with qt is, which is probably also a vanilla bug, is that you get a message that you summoned a raven when you kick a dead tree while blind or when the monster spawns somewhere you cant see 21:55 usually in goblin town where its dark or when it spawns right behind the tree 21:56 also i noticed that orcs may spawn with mithril gear, even though its rare 21:56 and no the orc in question didnt have gloves and it was in goblin town 21:57 huh 21:59 that may also be partly a vanilla bug because aosdict noted that demons can pick up silver wands and zap them 21:59 i'll need to remember to add that to the bug tracker 21:59 i dont recall ever seeing that happen myself 21:59 maybe they picked up some mithril gear instead? 21:59 I thought you had subscribed to the "demons are picking up and zapping the wands in their teeth" interpretation 22:00 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/79d93d68460f...53e80dc7808b 22:00 [EvilHack] NetSysFire 34b33fe - tribute: typo fix 22:00 [EvilHack] k21971 53e80dc - Merge pull request #101 from NetSysFire/patch-1 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1843 22:00 I'm more inclined to believe it was picked up than generated as worn. 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3587 points, T:2022, poisoned by an orcish dagger 22:11 NetSysFire hah neat - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:NetSysFire/EvilHack 22:12 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:57966 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:57976 22:25 K2: begone! 22:26 Umbire: yeah i cant say for sure if they did pick it up or not 22:26 it was dark, i only saw them drop it but good theory 22:34 K2: proposal: do not spawn player monsters with an ascension kit if you havent entered gehennom yet. or if you want to make it even earlier, if you havent obtained the bell yet 22:34 NetSysFire, its based on your exp level 22:34 i know, but if you got lucky with the wraiths its going to be real painful 22:34 when a player monster spawns, it matches your exp level (give or take one sometimes) 22:35 they dont start spawning with asc level gear until exp level 20 22:35 alibi - a player monster between levels 10-19 has a small chance to still spawn with some asc level gear 22:36 but they ruined my dlvl 1 run 22:37 Skill issue. 22:37 welcome to evilhack 22:37 :) 22:37 * NetSysFire beholder-glares at K2 22:38 Umbire: that damn infidel cancelled me, cursed and damaged my armor, casted summon nasties and immediately mounted that silver dragon 22:38 that was just unfair 22:38 See previous message. 22:38 i would bet not even K2 would win against those 22:39 the spellcaster player monsters definitely need some work imo, they can curse your stuff even though real players cant 22:39 so a player monster barbarian with an ascension kit isnt as dangerous as an infidel with an ascension kit 22:39 there's very little benefit to a player cursing a monsters gear 22:40 yes so why do player monsters do that 22:40 krusty krab unfair! 22:40 because they are a monster 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Sato, on T:60966 22:41 @e?infidel 22:41 infidel (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire | Confers: nothing | MR: 2 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: -128 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 22:41 Technically 🤓 22:41 @e?barbarian 22:41 barbarian (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 1 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: -3 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 22:41 you can get a monster stuck on subpar or damaged armor/weapons if you had a way to curse them 22:41 >1d6 weapon physical >casts spells anyways 22:41 (Which, you can actually do that with a poly into a casting monster) 22:44 * NetSysFire stomps foot on floor angrily 22:44 i rate evilhack 0/5 stars 22:45 being able to curse a monster when they swap to a two-hander, hmm... 22:45 in practice though you're liable to curse stuff you might actually want 22:45 although 🤔 22:45 you can also curse stuff you might actually want 22:45 cursed! 22:46 K2: https://blog.devolutions.net/2017/10/sysadminotaur-63-one-star/ 22:47 I dont think you're a sysadminotaur, NetSysFire 22:48 why not? 22:48 i can be whatever i want 22:48 sure 22:48 so i can be a beholder and continue to gaze at you evilly 22:49 * NetSysFire goes back to bed 22:50 :) 22:50 gnite o/ 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:61971 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:62269 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Arc Hob Mal Neu), 823 points, T:1820, killed by a gas spore's explosion 23:14 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 23:15 hey 23:15 Hello hackemslashem, Welcome to #evilhack 23:15 hackemslashem: Message from K2 at 2022-08-19 21:53 EDT: over the last few weeks the github actions routine that grabs the necessary files needed to compile on windows hasn't been able to get the winbison files. it's been hit or miss, just keep trying every so often 23:16 Yay K2 back! 23:45 \o/