00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1769 points, T:2553, killed by a giant ant 01:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a horse, on T:7350 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 19836 points, T:10127, killed by a wolf, while praying 01:39 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 02:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1724 points, T:3699, killed by a giant ant 02:51 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:54 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:44 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:53 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 7312 points, T:7828, killed by a bolt of fire 04:33 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:44 -!- Vodka has joined #evilhack 05:14 -!- Vodka has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:27 K2: FWIW, applying '4eb0592959 sickness countdown' for getting the 3.7 sickness messages would be straight forward. if you've done the STATIC_... -> static, remove NDECL/FDECL, and function() -> function(void) jump, it would even cherrypick almost cleanly 05:46 It's really hard to play evilhack while drink, I've just realised. 05:46 *drunk. 05:48 you just play and die, sounds like normal evilhack :) 05:49 Oh, yeah. It's not like we know who that maud person is. 06:06 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3317 points, T:2798, killed by a giant mosquito 06:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 33997 points, T:9421, killed by a zruty, while moving through the air 06:13 amateurhour: Looks like you were right: just play and die. 07:09 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:19 bhaak thanks. I remember making a mental note about that when that commit first came out. and promptly forgot :) 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 70 points, T:188, killed by a kobold 07:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 07:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 45 points, T:277, killed by a fox 07:58 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7581 07:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:02 -!- Guest7581 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:03 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest513 08:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:05 -!- Guest513 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1335 points, T:1782, killed by the Goblin King 08:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 122 points, T:978, killed by Ms. Ouiatchouane; the shopkeeper 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 285 points, T:1893, killed by a pseudodragon 09:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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how did we get on the topic of arboreality 10:09 arboreal vs arbofake 10:10 totes arbors 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3003 10:10 do you hide hecubus messages aos? 10:10 oh 10:10 https://www.hardfought.org/irclog.evil/%23evilhack-2022-08-08.log 10:10 if you want to get rid of the arboreal flag, just replace the blank spaces in the map with T 10:12 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:13 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:17 poor qt, could not handle the weight of the truth of how easy it was to remove arboreal 10:18 what happened? where am i? who are you? 10:18 i can't remember anything but i feel as though a great truth has been uttered 10:18 actually last thing i saw was my own message with "<-- arboreal" but i will read the logs 10:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 83 points, T:300, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted djinni 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4502 10:22 yeah it does seem like that would produce the same effect 10:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 372 points, T:820, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 10:23 * aos kicks the irc_smart filter around a bit 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 5969 points, T:5885, killed by a baby red dragon 10:25 i wonder when arboreal was added 10:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 10:27 unleash the amateurhour, greatest sleuth of 1.3d and other old versions 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 copper darts on an altar, on T:5536 10:29 3.3.0 looks like, but i don't see it used in any levels at that point. ranger quest looks different 10:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1956 points, T:4678, killed by a rothe, while praying 10:47 it was used for ranger quest in 3.3.1 10:51 doc/fixes33.0:349:add graves, iron bars, trees, and arboreal levels 10:53 what was the first version you played bhaak? 10:54 I think mine was like 3.6.2 or something, I'm pretty newskool 10:54 whowa 10:54 guess you will never know the experience of playing 1.3d 10:55 I can only yearn longingly 10:56 I'm not quite sure. it was on the Amiga, it was from the public domain Fish Disks. there are 3 version in that collection. 10:56 a 2.3 port, a "version 3.0, patch level 10", and version "3.1pl0" 10:57 the 2.3 port is ugly as hell and I don't remember it being that ugly. it must have been 3.0 10:57 but it didn't impress me much 10:58 shania twain 10:59 is nethack 2.3 amiga port what inspired her famous song 10:59 I only got into it more around 1998/1999 when I rediscovered it (as one of the last surviving roguelike) and the Usenet group. 10:59 maybe. but the 3.0 version didn't make an impression on me :) not much English skills, lots of early deads and no graphics 11:04 that's interesting to hear, I guess that was quite a while still before the 343 release 11:05 I must have rediscovered it during the 3.3 times 11:06 3.4.0 coming out in 2002. but I don't remember any 3.3 specifics 11:07 https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/YD64vvLEncw?pli=1 11:07 my first ascension was in 2003 11:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2677 points, T:4460, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:29, killed by a falling rock 11:11 you risked hitting croesus again when you had only 1hp? daring 11:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 171 points, T:639, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit 11:13 it wouldn't have been my first ascension if I weren't dying to stupid mistakes earlier 11:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 136 points, T:563, killed by a sewer rat 11:16 wow when I type in blahblah.ocm or blahblah.cmo in Firefox it corrects to blahblah.com 11:16 technology is amazing 11:17 that was a nice read 11:18 how did bigfoot.com go from an email provider to a film school 11:18 I don't know 11:19 but the mail forwarding still works last time I checked 11:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 370 points, T:1003, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 11:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 71 points, T:447, killed by a contaminated potion 11:21 I don't think I change the forwarded to email address anymore but I got the same email address for about 20 years now and I only use the bigfoot mail for Usenet 11:22 qt have you ever been to the place that somehow owns keylime.com 11:23 is this the place you told me your relative ate at, in red hook? 11:24 no I've been there, my mom is the one who REALLY wants me to take her there 11:24 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 343 points, T:2188, zombified by an orc zombie 11:25 because they own a particular domain? 11:25 yes, for that specific reason amateurhour 11:25 oh yeah i misremembered 11:26 I've never been there, it sounds good though the website is kind of weird 11:27 Either you are, or you aren’t. Avoid spurious, counterfeit and sham. 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 34200 points, T:26790, killed by a baby silver dragon 11:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2645 points, T:3777, killed by a plains centaur 11:47 my daughter is made at me because i tested her rectangle class using complex numbers and it blew up. now she is off sulking in her room hate-reading about complex numbers 11:47 mat at, made at, jeez i can't type any more 11:47 or thnk 11:47 or something 11:48 is she programming a rectangle simulator? 11:48 :/ 11:50 we alternate weekend tortures -- Japanese (her most favorite), Python, ethics (her least favorite) 11:50 believe it or not those three topics won out of a complex competitive bidding bracket at the start of the year 11:51 she had candy on there but i managed to defeat it with her mom's help 11:55 and at the end of the year she'll be able to write a Japanese ethics simulator in Python 11:55 step 4 in the business plan! 11:55 lol 11:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56 I wish I had the time to do the extra learning activities with my daughter 11:56 I prob could find the time actually 11:56 its not too late! she's still young 11:56 make her fix an evilhack bug before she can get dessert and she will pick up C programming 11:57 fucking brilliant 11:57 qt, today you win the interwebz 11:57 you may have dessert 11:57 thank you 11:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1910 points, T:4207, poisoned by a giant spider 11:57 that approach has worked pretty well for me 11:58 i have an internet of things lockbox that opens only when a commit credited to me is pushed to the evilhack repo 11:58 and it is full of twinkies 11:58 swap out twinkies for ho-ho's. you'll thank me later 11:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 97 points, T:314, killed by an iron ball collision 11:59 you are both vile and despicable. ding dongs are the answer 11:59 pfft 11:59 ho-ho's > hostess cupcakes > ding dongs > twinkies 12:00 you left off fruit pies 12:00 i did no such thing 12:00 do they even make those any more? those are so death 12:00 they DO 12:00 i like the fruit pies 12:00 there was a great place in new orleans that made fruit pies 12:00 like 8 kilos of transfats in a 200 gram "snack" 12:00 called hubigs pies 12:00 * K2 starts renaming all of the fruit names in variant cfgs to hostess snack types 12:01 you know what nethack is missing? the equivalent of the old hostess snack adds in comic books 12:01 rofl 12:01 https://0x0.st/o2zf.jpeg 12:01 a fruit pie sorceror needs to run up to you and give you a hostess commestible 12:01 their shop in the bywater burned down several years ago and ever since they keep saying they will return 12:01 but it keeps being delayed 12:02 i sort of think they may have burned it down themselves for insurance reasons 12:02 can't rush a villain's plans 12:02 great hand pies though 12:02 cheap too 12:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 361 points, T:805, killed by a wererat 12:04 j - a ho-ho (5 aum). 12:04 j - 2 ho-hos (10 aum). 12:04 nirvana achieved 12:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 774 points, T:1653, killed by an orc zombie 12:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 80 points, T:64, crunched in the head by an iron ball 12:10 is 'those are so death' supposed to mean good 12:13 yes and no 12:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 431 points, T:1072, withered away 12:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:669 12:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:22 fruit pie the sorcerer > https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0091.html 12:22 i'm reading that to my daughter right now at bedtime, just about to start Utterly Dwarfed 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:11464 12:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:6270 12:49 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:8712 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14094 13:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:9190 13:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:10197 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 607 points, T:1360, killed by hitting themselves in the face 13:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10746 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:16953 13:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:11114 13:20 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 779 points, T:2494, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 13:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 10996 points, T:11789, killed by a dwarven watchman 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:11360 13:40 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:19601 13:47 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 13:51 my worst programming habit is getting on a roll and doing a whole bunch of crap without testing, leaving me 3,000 options for why my stupid code stupidly doesn't work, stupid 13:51 and yet 13:51 can't stop it 13:52 :) 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:20823 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a pair of high boots entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:12834 14:20 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/65ed594ddfa9...0cda3347f163 14:20 [EvilHack] k21971 0cda334 - Valkyries start with a spear instead of a long sword; Giantslayer changes. 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:14636 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a spellbook of fireball given to him by Moloch, on T:14836 14:37 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:37 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:37 ais has a history of messing with the terminal 14:38 but I don't remember acehack changing colors or changing default fore/background colors 14:40 qt: it's not obvious from your video, does the text color stay red? 14:40 no, by the time the prompt is printed it's back to normal color. it's only the "Connection to hardfought.org closed" output that changes 14:42 yay for giantslayer as spear! 14:42 k2 pro tip: you fixed shitty maces and hammers with the heavy versions. maybe spears need a fix like that too in order to compete with longswords (i.e. spear and war spear or something) 14:43 so giantslayer could be base type war spear 14:43 with damage then comparable to other artifact weapons 14:43 bhaak: not sure if you saw the screenshot in #hardfought but it makes it clearer exactly what region is affected by the leftover acehack color https://0x0.st/o2-t.png 14:43 spears arent shitty like a mace or war hammer though 14:44 ndnh has cool spears 14:44 in fact, a dwarven spear is decent 14:44 in ndnh if you're a caveman you can attach hard gems to the tips of spears 14:44 this change also makes xiuhcoatl a more desireable artifact wish for a lawful valk 14:44 amateurhour neat 14:45 forgot about dwarven spears -- make giantslayer a dwarven spear then 14:45 but its not a dwarvish artifact 14:45 ...yet 14:45 lol 14:45 qt: then I guess what happens is that acehack doesn't properly clean up when quitting. just a simple "reset all settings" would be enough. from the way it looks, your prompt does that instead. 14:46 you can probably get a similar effect with: echo -e "\e[41mTest" 14:46 I think it does clean up when it's really the program itself that is exiting (I don't get this effect from playing), but leaving midstream while spectating doesn't have the benefit of that cleanup 14:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:47 echo -e "\e[41mTest\e[0m" 14:47 but I thought the dgl menu would have cleared it, since it draws various colors 14:47 and is redrawn on the way to exiting 14:50 maybe it's a background color thing? 14:50 I just `reset` after quitting dgl after spectating out of habit now 14:50 happens with NAO as well 14:51 I think that's what lead to the changes in 3.7 that fixed something 14:53 curses used to change the colors itself on terminals that supports that 14:55 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:56 I only learned about that tip from you very recently amateurhour, before that I had to close the pane and then open a new one to replace it 15:00 probs mentioned before but in gdb you can use `shell reset` to reset the terminal if you've been fuzzing nethack and everything is all garbled 15:00 but in lldb it doesn't seem to let you do builtins, so I usually ctrl+z then `reset` then `fg` 15:00 I have no idea why everything gets so messed up when fuzzing 15:03 my guess was that it names things with control characters 15:04 i've definitely seen before things produced by the fuzzer like: a food ration named 2@ioa25%21ma6!2L:" 15:04 so maybe it puts some control characters in there sometimes that mess up the output? 15:06 I guess so 15:08 or if it can't put them there directly, maybe some kind of buffer overflow that injects control characters into a buffer that gets printed 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 37 points, T:249, burned by molten lava 15:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:23 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:24 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 1444 points, T:2942, killed by a bugbear 15:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4398 16:05 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0cda3347f163...5062cb038303 16:05 [EvilHack] k21971 b453b7d - Grid bugs don't have hands. 16:05 [EvilHack] k21971 5062cb0 - Pyrolisk, fire damage changes. 16:05 wtf man, you cut off all the grid bugs' hands?! 16:06 they deserved it 16:09 you go down as the King Leopold II of grid bugs 16:45 dark 16:48 question: when you enter moloch's sanctum as an infidel, does the hpom say "Infidel, you have entered Moloch's Sanctum! Welcome!" or something? 16:49 it's a bit odd that he'd call everyone *else* infidels and not the actual infidels 16:49 nah 16:49 He says "yooo whats up bruh" 16:49 just the standard 'Pilgrim, you enter a sacred place!' 16:50 sup bruh 16:50 heh 16:52 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 16:52 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (tantalum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 16:52 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 16:54 -!- Ride has joined #evilhack 16:54 -!- entrez has joined #evilhack 16:56 -!- qt has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by entrez))] 16:56 -!- entrez is now known as qt 16:57 -!- Tangles_ has joined #evilhack 16:59 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 16:59 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 17:02 -!- rebatela has quit [*.net *.split] 17:02 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 17:02 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:06 -!- aos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:06 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:06 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 17:07 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:17 -!- Ride has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:33 -!- Ride has joined #evilhack 17:47 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 17:48 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Client Quit] 17:55 -!- Ride has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55 -!- Not-15ab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11970 18:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:11 krm26: i got a letter for some kind of uni high centennial event, see you there 18:12 jk, not 100% sure but i don't think i will travel to illinois for it 18:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 20:31 yeah i'm not big on physical reunions 20:32 i sent my money instead 20:44 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:51 krm26: regarding https://nethack-yanis.github.io/yanis/4150.html, are there any motivations in that list you think I got wrong or missed? 20:52 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:54 hmm -- mitigate the feeling that once you're as good as you can get you have to retrace 50 levels of well-worn steps, instead feeling like you're still "exploring" your way back out; compress out a section of the game where the difficulty is flat but the loot keeps on coming; make demon lords and princes more difficult because of advancing from below 20:54 that kinda thing 20:55 also, snuffs out the overpowering urge i get to overprepare for the ascension by digging out pathways, etc 20:56 plus it will shorten games a little, i think nethack tends to be overlong in the back half 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4723 21:33 krm26 that's interesting 21:33 this has given me an Idea™ 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1470 21:58 dun dun DUN 21:59 Hmm, you mean, Evil(TM) idea: Your level difficulty level is set as the deepest level you have been in? 22:00 no 22:00 more betterly idea, will require a shit ton of work 22:00 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L28 22:00 Interesting. I remember a technique in vanilla where we just teleport to the lowest level of ghenno and work up. 22:01 Oh, that's an *excellent* idea! Love that idea. 22:01 totally removing access to the dungeon from quest level on? that's a good start indeed! 22:02 Catholic vibes reminds me of Sheol. 22:03 so you'd go to the sanctum, get the aoy (or sac it if infidel). stairs back up out of the sanctum are now blocked, and a new portal near/in the inner sanctum becomes known 22:03 this takes you to purgatory 22:03 EoA will be iteresting. 22:03 travel back 'up' through purgatory and it'll dump you at the home quest level 22:03 in case you need to interact with the quest leader 22:04 then just a short slog the rest of the way back up 22:04 Why would you? 22:04 arahael, the quest leader has specific interactions with the hero post sanctum. seasoned players rarely use it 22:04 for infidels its more of a need though 22:04 That's the first I've heard of it! 22:05 :) 22:06 I imagine purgaory would be something like 5-8 levels 22:06 much much less than going all the way back thru gehennom and the lower dungeon 22:06 1 graz'zt on the first, 2 graz'zt on the second... 22:07 :P 22:07 nope, there'd be all new bosses to encounter 22:07 i'll need to break out my copy of the divine comedy 22:08 once you pop out of purgatory to home quest level and you go back to the main dungeon, if you wanted to go back down again, sure why not 22:09 there are some good (relatively) side-by-side translations 22:09 you wouldnt *need* to though 22:09 unless you forgot something, or whatever 22:10 oooh yeah 22:10 this is gonna be good 22:10 gonna take forever though lol 22:11 thanks for the idea krm26 22:13 hopefully your idea means we get to bones with achilles and dido in the second circle of hell on the way back up 22:13 not hell. purgatory 22:15 purgatory is traditionally a place where you can scalded in melted metal a lot -- that's the tradition in the pre-christian monotheisms 22:15 gonna have to take away our fire resistance 22:16 ACID muahahah 22:17 christians really dropped the purgatory ball zoroastrians and jews passed them, they didn't get hot for purgatory until they realized it could help them sell indulgences :-) 22:17 heh 22:18 could make a brand new "element" that people won't be immune to for purgatory. the purgatorial effluvial essence (PEE) 22:18 hey by the way, we leave for family vacation on the 10th, wont be back til the 19th. not bringing the laptop, so I wont be on at all for that block of time 22:18 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 22:18 lol krm26 22:18 hope you're going someplace that isn't melting 22:19 yellowstone 22:19 nice! 22:19 wife and I went a few years ago, this will be mini-me's first visit 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible coplate's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5367 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death (suffocated by a sea dragon), on T:5528 22:25 sea dragon on turn 5k is bad luck indeed 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 82200 points, T:20882, killed by a touch of death 22:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:57 -!- Hecubus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:57 -!- mode/Hecubus_ [+Ziw] by Hecubus_ 22:57 -!- tantalum.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.0 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/wakb2u 22:57 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus_] by ChanServ 23:03 -!- rebatela has quit [*.net *.split] 23:03 -!- Hecubus has quit [*.net *.split] 23:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:994 23:20 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7058 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:7083