00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Ith Mal Una), 9070 points, T:3428, killed by an elven arrow 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:18985 00:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4240 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:20733 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:22899 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23045 01:13 EPI: Whenever someone watches your game, you hear an announcement in-game. 01:13 That'd be very cool. :) 01:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:8844 01:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:9284 02:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:38725 03:52 -!- ArahaelWeb has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:40862 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:40864 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:41026 05:38 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Cntblast (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide armor", on T:36932 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Cntblast (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:37004 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Cntblast (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt", on T:37067 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:48941 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:51159 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51162 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:51397 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:51934 12:09 k2: the tortle archeologist minigame is now all i want to play (rolling for oilskin sack + magic lamp autoidentify + +5 pickaxe), makes me wish all classes had scum lottery for losers like me to play 12:10 like maybe tourists start with 2 smaller stacks of darts, and there is a chance of a property, etc :-) 12:16 i'm not sure why arch's can start with an enchanted pick-axe now 12:17 that was not an intentional change 12:21 prob something in u_init.c 12:32 I would find it logical if they always start with a +1 pick-axe 12:38 oh man nooooo i love the pickaxe lottery 12:38 shhh i said nothing nevermind nothing to see here 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 5777 points, T:5402, killed by the Goblin King 12:43 but yeah in u_init.c the arch structure uses UNDEF_SPE instead of a specific enchantment for their pickaxe 12:43 which is why it gets the randomized enchant 12:56 krm26 lol its ok, i've known about it for awhile 12:57 it falls under 'minor' bug 12:59 don't worry Project Manager amateurhour is here to save the day 12:59 if we reclassify it as a minor feature instead then the problem is gone! 12:59 good work team, plaudits all around 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 2282 points, T:2024, poisoned by a giant spider 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 bone orcish daggers named $4 {+0} on an altar, on T:5101 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5560 14:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:66691 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:68046 16:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:24 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 17:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:18 K2: finding the sink in a room full of fog is very hard 18:20 Why is the room full of fog? 18:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3504 18:24 Umbire: idk. rng 18:24 its dlvl 1 18:25 s/fog/clouds/ 18:25 Screenshot, if you please? 18:27 hang on 18:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4897 18:31 Umbire: https://i.imgur.com/3dQjTCO.png 18:32 I see. 18:32 Would you have any suggestion for a different color or type of glyph? 18:34 make it white instead of gray 18:38 Personally iffy on that, considering it's used for corridors. 18:38 Granted, it's only corridors, but hmm. 18:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 6270 points, T:7632, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 18:57 in 3.7 sink is white { 18:58 I thought it was a variant that did that, good to know. 18:58 xnethack had them as blue \ for a while but I'm willing to take vanilla's lead on this one 19:07 !tell K2 I have a question regarding the code you use for Kathryn's forms - would it be possible to use a similar kind of code to, say, simulate a possessed hostile being non-lethally defeated and returned to normal? 19:07 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 19:13 you probably don't want to copy evilhack's approach there, since it involves two different permonsts 19:13 defining different possessed and non-possessed permonsts for everything that could be possessed doesn't really work 19:14 I was also thinking of doing it like SLASH'EM does with Pegasus, only without a corpse per se and spawning the "purified" monster instead as a peaceful. 19:14 But probably runs into a similar enough problem before long. 19:30 . 19:30 K2: Message from Umbire at 2022-07-31 19:07 EDT: I have a question regarding the code you use for Kathryn's forms - would it be possible to use a similar kind of code to, say, simulate a possessed hostile being non-lethally defeated and returned to normal? 19:30 I may do the same with sinks that 3.7 does 19:30 Umbire - what aosdict said 19:30 Noted. 19:31 And I'm guessing you're just as certain the approach I mentioned after would run into same? 19:31 (Or again, similar enough?) 19:31 I was also considering the concept of just turning the monster in question peaceful upon its defeat, but I feel like that'd run into a problem with pets already attacking peacefuls. 19:32 Among others. 19:39 it really needs the monster ai fields to be extended beyond the scant few they are now 19:40 Mhm. 19:41 Though, and I don't know if this means anything, pets never normally attack quest guardians or the leader, except under circumstances where they've turned hostile I think (and perhaps not even then - my memory isn't the best right now). 19:42 Which, on paper, is an effect that, were it applied to ex-hostile "un-possessed" monsters, would at least solve the pet problem. 19:43 In practice, however, I just know it's going to be a "Small" Matter of Programming™. 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 423 points, T:807, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 20:06 one thing to consider with possessed monsters that also may not translate from kathryn is how the non-lethal defeat works. in kathryn's case you reduce her HP to 0, and then she gets back up with full HP as the enchantress because *magicky handwaving*. But if you reduce a regular possessed monster's HP to 0, I'd expect it to just die. 20:06 aosdict you make *magicky handwaving* feel so dirty 20:07 its beautiful and you know it 20:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11 aww man nichelle nichols died 20:11 :( 20:14 that leaves koenig, takei, and tj hooker 20:14 89 yrs old... good run 20:14 yeah no kidding 20:15 died of natural causes. hope it was a peaceful passing 20:15 hey, are tortles too big to be swallowed by air elementals? and if not, does monstering inside an air elemental cause them to barf you out? 20:16 no they are not too big. they are MZ_LARGE 20:16 you mean enshelling? 20:16 no it doesnt 20:16 well crap on a crutch seymour 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:13433 20:27 GOLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 20:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:14133 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16825 21:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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