00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed Platinum yendorian express card", on T:36791 00:06 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Val Dwa Fem Law), 451 points, T:965, burned by molten lava 00:12 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:36888 00:14 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:32 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:56008 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:56041 00:51 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Inf Hum Mal Una), 982 points, T:1439, killed by a poisonous corpse 01:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:57284 01:05 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Ran Hob Fem Neu), 376 points, T:1235, killed by a small mimic 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had a helmet entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:37335 01:31 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 1047 points, T:1588, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 01:40 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 528 points, T:697, killed by the Goblin King 01:48 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 50 points, T:239, killed by a contaminated potion 02:09 [hdf-au] [evil] delisma (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 427 points, T:1274, killed by a gnome lord 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:40463 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:56 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:8029 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1914 03:02 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class h), on T:8207 03:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 16459 points, T:8313, killed by a leocrotta 03:10 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 476 points, T:2852, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:17 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:1513 03:30 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had a saber entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:42763 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 116 points, T:655, killed by a magic missile 03:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:6055 03:58 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1143 points, T:1459, quit 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Hum Mal Una), 485 points, T:737, killed by a giant bat 04:20 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8567 05:23 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 81 points, T:531, killed by a bear trap 05:24 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 148471 points, T:47887, killed by a gargoyle, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:27 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 449 points, T:583, killed by a crossbow bolt 05:37 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1467 05:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1763 points, T:4160, killed by a wererat 06:36 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4504 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4600 points, T:4634, killed by a piranha 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 517 points, T:1349, killed by a giant rat, while reading a book 06:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2077 points, T:1505, killed by a piranha 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Mon Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2238 07:19 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Mon Trt Mal Law) had 16 silver shuriken entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2788 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Mon Trt Mal Law) had 20 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:3161 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 323 points, T:462, killed by falling down a mine shaft 07:28 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 07:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:11855 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 1124 points, T:1553, killed by a bugbear 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a steel long sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:1727 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:39773 07:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:9829 08:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:11190 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4135 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a banded mail entrusted to him by Mog, on T:4144 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 10532 points, T:12912, killed by a mountain dwarf, while sleeping 08:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 27 points, T:125, killed by a sewer rat 08:26 when your new switch arrives and you realize you ordered the wrong model 08:26 * K2 plugs in the PoE powered devices and sees that they don't power up 08:26 yeah you wanted a nintendo to play some marios and all you got is some whacky networking crap 08:26 oopsies 08:27 write a stern letter to mr bezos demanding he give you some nintendos 08:27 heh 08:28 we watched the first episode of 'Loot' last night (apple TV show) 08:28 its about a woman who is recently divorced from her uber successful tech husband 08:28 her settlement was 87 billion dollars 08:28 BILLION 08:29 could help sooooo many people with that kind of money 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:39868 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5268 08:30 bezor's wife got like half of that 08:30 bezor lol bezos* 08:30 yeah 08:30 pretty sure that was the inspiration for the show 08:41 was it 87 billion dollars, or assets whose present value is about 87 billion dollars 08:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:42 cause normally selling that much of what's probably equity in one or a few companies would sink the price 08:42 everything 08:42 but there would still be billions in cash 08:43 (in carl sagan voice) billions and billions 09:40 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:49 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: reboot or something] 09:50 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lgxia's ghost, the former Exhumer, on T:6277 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed silver long sword of fire", on T:9161 10:52 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 11:09 k2, lemme know if there is some distinct bit of non-critical-path drow-related work you think you need/want to do but aren't looking forward to, i can make a branch to diddle with it when i get tired of petrifying giants 11:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:13 thanks krm26, will do 11:13 I'm deciding on what I want to work on first 11:14 i might fix the compiler warnings, they bug me 11:14 what compiler warningsa 11:14 ? 11:14 recover.c:120:16: warning: ignoring return value of ‘setgid’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result [-Wunused-result] 11:14 (void) setgid(getgid()); 11:14 ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 11:14 etc 11:15 i'm not seeing that 11:15 you probably have those globally disabled, which i dont like to do 11:15 ah yeah i think unused result is off 11:16 the (void) is there to tell the compiler not to complain but it isn't a universal fix 11:25 krm26 I just removed -Wno-unused-result from my hints file, make spotless and recompiled 11:25 not getting any warnings 11:27 now explicity adding -Wunused-result 11:28 no warnings 11:28 Hi 11:28 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 11:28 hey 11:28 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 11:28 krm26 what OS, version of gcc you using? or are you using clang? 11:31 i'm using g++ 8.3.0 on ubuntu 11:32 i'm gonna make a patch with some gcc-specific pragmas to clean out these warnings; it is because the gnu folks don't like the (void) convention for intentionally ignoring a checked return parameter. clang doesn't have that issue 11:32 there are long philosophical arguments about it dating back like 15 years i think 11:33 https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=66425 11:34 wizmode box uses gcc 10.3.0 11:34 seems like a different issue with attributes rather than the compiler warning flag 11:34 my google fu is failing on finding any discussion about the compiler flag 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a javelin entrusted to him by Mog, on T:14043 11:35 oh no it likely is related then 11:35 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 11:35 https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=66425 11:36 same one I linked then 11:36 hah, didn't see that 11:36 did they change the behaviour in later versions of gcc? how come K2 doesn't get it? 11:37 a simple pragma will take care of the warning regardless of version 11:37 Is there only one type of robe in evil? I'm a bit confused by a comment in the code 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 3365 points, T:5125, killed by a rabid dog, while fainted from lack of food 11:38 one type of robe, which can have a material and a property 11:38 ah, the properties.. right 11:38 only likely to ever see the ...of decay from vecna 11:39 which is a kick in the nards, since if you want that, you need it before doing vecna :-) 11:39 do you get unused warnings in vanilla? 11:40 wait g++ 11:40 C++ compiler for C? 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 90 points, T:670, killed by a fox, while sleeping 11:42 Is there a weakness property to cover the robe of weakness? 11:42 are you keeping robes as cloak slot items? 11:42 I think so, it's never made sense to me as body armor 11:42 rip monks 11:43 rip :D 11:43 (and priests and jedi) 11:43 I think my answer is in prop.h... 11:43 Bah, we'll find something to make up for it 11:44 Doppleganger monks shouldn't wear body armor anyway 11:44 You miss out on doppleganger AC bonus 11:45 Robes as tightly-woven body "armor" made a certain amount of sense 11:45 I don't mind diverging from that, but monks should at least get something to compensate 11:46 Perhaps boosts to the AC bonuses most everyone gets, e.g. from Dex 11:47 What's the deal with jedi, are they big spellcasters? 11:48 Might be that they were built explicitly around the assumption of robe as body armor 11:48 I've never played one so don't quote me on that though 11:49 the robe thing isn't about spellcasting iirc it's just something that doesn't get 'in the way' of whatever 11:49 for monks it's martial arts and for jedi it's lightsaber stuff 11:50 so lightsabers get -20 to-hit or something with any body armour that isn't a robe 11:51 Well, I could change that lol 11:51 But it might be a while before I get to Jedis 11:51 so lightsabers get -20 to-hit or something with any body armour that isn't a *cloak* 11:52 doesn't make sense :P that's like saying -20 to-hit with any helmet that isn't a *boots* 11:52 jeez, I was just copy pasting to make a point 11:52 oh I see haha 11:53 that's my bad 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:4585 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4608 11:53 I've also only won a monk in slashthem so I'm still a newb in that fork 11:53 I'm tired and it's just hit weekend o'clock so my brain is off 11:53 It's beer'o'cloak here ahour :-D 11:53 ha ha ha! 11:53 cloak! 11:54 O f, that was not even on purpose ha 11:54 even better hahaha :D 11:55 I hope you like what I'm doing with the slashem monsters, I'm trying to fine tune a lot of the missed details they had 11:55 And I'm introducing slaughter wights muahahaa 11:56 My schedule right now is "mostly finish monsters and items" - hopefully by Sept... 11:56 sounds good, I'm really looking forward to it 11:58 I'm cruising through a lot of the easy stuff, but I have a list of the "hard-to-implement" stuff that is growing, and I'm hoping I can tackle this weekend. 11:59 ie: Doing more with the sonic attacks. Evil has one with the Nazgul, but I'm not sure exactly how it works, or if it's ranged or close.. 12:00 And a bit more trail making, like Hezrou's do - so I'm hoping I can copy them 12:01 And I need to figure out more about spellcasters in evil - do they only work with a range or spells or could you assign specific spells to a monster? 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish chain mail entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:6103 12:05 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: restart] 12:06 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 12:19 there are two types of casters, clerical and arcane, each with their own spell list 12:19 slaughter wights? 12:19 Also far as I know what krm26 said - there's a list of spells for each "monster school, and certain ones are available at certain levels 12:20 A monster that generates at x minimum level will always have the spells available up to that level 12:20 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Monster_spell 12:21 Cool, if I wanted certain spells I suppose I could create a new school then. 12:21 that is an area that evilhack could imo receive a nice upgrade in, letting specific monster types and maybe even specific monsters know different spells 12:22 There's a group that would be interesting with camoflauge/hiding/ambush spells, that I'm not sure how I'd do yet. 12:22 i'd like some goblin mages to have fireballs, others have cold 12:22 The call undead bit for SLASH'EM feels like it's a blatant lie, given how many non-lich casters I've had spring ghosts and shit on me 12:22 but that's THEM, and for all I know something was changed between 'EM and THEM 12:22 lol yea 12:23 Or it's a different spell entirely, somehow 12:23 Can't count how many times the chaotic quest filled up with crap and took me 2 hours to clean it out :p 12:23 I'm on my way back there right now, speaking of 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 mithril lance of frost", on T:47264 12:27 @lt?Vecna 12:27 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 49 | Diff: 56 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep poison petrification drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -8 | Attacks: 9d6 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: breathless, regenerates, poisonous, nopoly, undead, stalker, covetous 12:27 I don't see acid in there 👀 12:27 yup, acid and petrification 12:28 k2: tortle arc sack shouldbe oilskin 12:28 He resists petrification 12:28 instead, they occasionally get an ADDITIONAL oilskin sack 12:28 but, specifically not acid 12:28 no, he cures petrification, sometimes 12:29 not always, you can stone him if you want (but no eye/hand) 12:29 krm26 they are talking about another variant 12:29 Notice the "lt" 12:29 mobileuser: also "he" is fine for me, ty 12:29 I really meant the plural here ;-) 12:30 ah, sorry. not used to all the slashwhatever stuff in this channel 12:30 you and hackem 12:30 @e?Vecna 12:30 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 12:30 muhahah 12:30 hackem was more talking Chaotic Quest undead swarms in general 12:30 but ye 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9229 12:40 Dat gaze of death though 12:40 and that withering attack! 12:40 "your withering speeds up!" 12:40 muhahah 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed mithril magic harp", on T:47268 12:48 I wanna see what flavorful stuff per monster I can contribute to hackemslashem's thing and/or have backported to THEM 12:49 My changelog is messy but fairly thorough 12:50 Also need to see about further probable de-SLEXings that we can port forward to your variant 12:51 and/or other general fixes such as the one I'm waiting on for https://github.com/Soviet5lo/SlashTHEM/issues/85 12:52 That's why I wanted to start with evil, I do like a lot of them stuff, but I didn't want the bugs and stuff withit 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 343 points, T:1859, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a potion 12:54 On that note, if you fix the goldbug thing, see about passing along a 3.4.3 compatible patch to Soviet 12:54 if you fix it first* 12:56 fwiw I don't think gold bugs eating gold items is actually in slex I think it's a slashthem thing 12:57 I don't think I called it a SLEX-ism though 12:57 did I? 12:57 I assumed the and in and/or was implying that, but I'm tired so might be misunderstanding 12:58 I was referring to the gold bug thing as one of the general THEM fixes 12:58 100 gold bugs vs 1000 gold golems - who wins? 12:59 1 gold bug probably 12:59 That's something I might wiztest purely for amusement + to see if there's YAFM or similar interactions 13:00 there is at least if gold golem pet somehow 13:00 won't spoil it for you 13:00 Bet 13:00 Gold golem pet isn't too hard to get (in theory) 13:00 For your variant though, I'd probably do something like having gold-eating attacks do normal damage 13:00 BUT ALSO 13:00 apply that damage to max HP as well 13:01 similar enough to drain life 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a leather helm of speed, on T:12376 13:11 In them, the gold eating is just straight up right? Maybe if it worked more like an erosion I could see it. "partly eaten, thoroughly eaten" etc? 13:12 or just "deteriorated"? 13:14 could work 13:14 and yeah it's just straight up gg no re 13:15 had an attachment to that gold amulet? sucks to fucking suck loser 13:15 or your golden candelabrum hahaha 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:13564 13:17 I'm actually mad for malor with that shit 13:17 Ooh, that's right you have more golden stuff in evil 13:17 gold stuff is the WORST 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4190 13:18 Please tell why? 13:18 other than its weight, a leprechaun can poof off your ring of freedom or amulet of flying and dunk you in lava, etc 13:18 Oh shit, ok 13:18 i've had gold-stealing shambling horrors in gehennom before when i was reliant on a gold shield of reflection and a gold amulet of mr 13:19 I was thinking there wasn't any racial restrictions lol 13:19 The leprechauns are often more annoyance than lethal in practice, but yeah 13:19 that is indeed a Thing That Can Happen 13:19 the shambling horrors are just that but infinitely worse 13:20 Stealing is so mean, I want a mcguffin for it 13:20 graz'zt spits on you 13:20 Evil rogues already have a command for a bare-handed theft attack 13:20 k2, any chance that you're willing to think about my shambling horror proposal for 0.9? every time you kill a horror, give the remaining ones an additional random ability? 13:20 I forget if THEM has #bereave or such 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:13835 13:21 Oh right. 13:21 Forge. 13:22 i also think shambling horrors should be able to engulf adjacent monsters (only) and add their special attacks :-) 13:22 krm suggesting this idea <<< krm when a shambler engulfs a leprechaun hall 13:22 krm26 no i dont think so. shambers can be bad enough as it is 13:23 and sometimes shamblers CAN engulf 13:23 plus nintendo might have some kind of kirby-related software patent on that 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hexagonal amulet on an altar, on T:5096 13:23 qt, just got the yubikeys 13:23 just now 13:23 shamblers CAN be bad enough, but if they aren't, so you kill one, it has another chance at being bad enough! 13:24 might as well switch shamblers to being different everytime they spawn 13:24 nice, K2, are you going to set them up? 13:24 yes 13:24 right now 13:24 brb 13:24 Shit, speaking of The Forge 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5159 13:27 "You succeed in locking the door. The fire giant smashes down a door." 13:27 Can you geno shorrors? Can't see a NO_GENO flag.. 13:27 bastard :b 13:28 has anybody ever tried to geno horrors I wonder... 13:28 you cant 13:28 ooph 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48479 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48482 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:48488 13:34 "You feel an odd sensation, but nothing happens." 13:34 I wonder what that was... 13:35 Hold on pls 13:35 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:35 oh magic trap! 13:35 sorry 13:35 pf you're fine 13:35 yeah magic traps can't eat the see invis intrinsic from crowning 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:6578 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5187 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7425 13:50 hahahahaha 13:50 so i was praying myself to death, and my god eventually sent a water elemental to drown me, but i'm a tortle 13:50 so he tried to fry me with lightning which killed the water elemental 13:50 "Camaxtli is not deterred... A wide-angle disintegration beam hits you!" 13:51 it is a bit weird that the water elemental "fries to a crisp" from the lightning bolt 13:52 that line in god_zaps_you probably wants to have a check for swirlies/etc, since they are actually pretty likely to be the engulfers in this kind of case 13:53 in fact there is a 3.6 fix to stop YOU from frying to a crisp as a water elemental 13:55 nevermind, the 3.6 notes say it fixes that but i don't think it really does 13:57 excellent death, it has led me to a bunch of cosmetic bugs and inconsistencies 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 5531 points, T:5306, killed by the wrath of Camaxtli 14:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 723 points, T:925, killed by the Goblin King 14:31 what's the 3.6 fix? 14:34 "you no longer "fry to a crisp" as a water elemental 14:34 " 14:35 looks like there are a bunch of code points -- mhitu, uhitm, trap, monster in lava -- that are not all handled the same 14:35 so for example glass golems will melt in one situation but not in another 14:36 everything can be unified through on_fire with a teeny bit of work 14:36 oh yeah I see, the "fry to a crisp" being referred to is falling into lava 14:36 abb47e6fc6502c5a64e07cb24ab14720b12fbf8a 14:37 i'm gonna do a tiny patch 14:37 you many know qt, is there any way to tell the player's monst structure from a real monsters? (the youmonst.data one) 14:38 like it has a special m_id or something? would be really convenient 14:38 if you just have the data pointer there isn't 14:39 you need a monst instead of a permonst if you want to tell whether it's the hero 14:39 i am talking about the monst, not the permonst 14:39 you mean vice versa tho? 14:40 oh, in that case you can just check 'if (mtmp == &youmonst)' 14:40 hahaha 14:40 ok sure 14:40 maybe i am misunderstanding the question 14:41 no you got it totally correct, i was looking at something i thought was monst and it was really permonst :-) 14:41 yeah evilhack has had bugs before trying to do things like 'if (pm == youmonst.data)', because then it affects all monsters of the type the hero currently has 14:43 actually vanilla does the same thing in some places but the effect is much milder since it's used in a way that applies only to mplayers 14:43 but i guess if you are a gnome archeologist, any mplayer archeologists on astral will also be treated like gnomes in vanilla 14:44 that is a somewhat recent change (2020), i wonder if the devteam really understood that implication 14:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:49 getting yubikey authentication to work with active directory is... involved 14:50 if this were just a local account, i was would have been done ages ago 14:50 yay! now you can melt in lava when you are a glass golem! 14:50 is there a wizmode polyself command? 14:50 \o/ 14:50 yes 14:50 how about a wizmore place terrain command? 14:51 just wish for it 14:51 wish for lava, or a pool. etc 14:51 damn under my feet, you killed me :-) 14:51 its weird, wishing for a pool, you get a turn to step off it 14:51 lava not so much 14:52 i make sure i'm lev/flying first 14:52 You fall into the lava! You melt away... 14:56 yeah k2 the inconsistency between lava and other liquids is weird 15:00 i wonder why gold golems don't melt 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:16168 15:06 magic :) 15:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:06 i can't help myself, even though i meant this to be super tiny i can't let air elementals "burn to a crisp" 15:07 lol 15:07 welcome to dev 15:07 'oh this will be a quick fix/change' 15:07 5+ days later and hours of going over code 15:07 "evaporates/dissipates" possibly? 15:07 That assumes they ever land in the lava to begin with though 15:07 unless you're qt, who knocks out entire solutions to complex issues in 10 min 15:08 <--- jealous 15:08 gas can't evaporate 15:08 well, petrol-gas can, but you know 15:09 I guess qt has taken the title from FIQ? 15:09 oh god... 'Monkeypox linked to penis swelling and rectal pain in ongoing outbreak' 15:09 do NOT catch that 15:09 i have said it before, when i have a problem i just email FIQ 15:09 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2419 15:09 hah 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Mon Trt Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a tiger, on T:4333 15:10 now i'm wondering why paper golems fully combust but not straw golems 15:11 they keep doing this thing where they try to link it to sex when it's something you can catch from any contact 15:11 love to live through AIDS 2 just off the heels of a botched pandemic response 15:12 oh man snow golems, ok i'm walking through the whole evilhack monster list to make sure this function gets everything 15:12 but now i'm gonna use a commit message for the whole thing of "fixed k2's kathryn bug" 15:12 lol wut 15:12 how could you not consider what would happen to a snow golem falling into lava! 15:13 kathryn is perfect, there are no bugs 15:13 it needs to BOIL 15:13 oh I thought he was going to cure her of her stomach bug before she could come home and give it to you 15:13 it is like you didn't even consider all the times people find lava in the snow branch 15:14 call it a phase transition 15:14 cuz technically, that is correct 15:14 'violent phase transition' 15:15 or rapid 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Mon Trt Mal Law), 14271 points, T:5152, petrified by a cockatrice 15:20 I'm leaning towards the underwater side branch being mid-level difficult. goblin town is early game, ice queen/vecna are higher level difficulty 15:21 so maybe something for players level 9-12 15:21 or 10-14 15:21 somewhere in that range 15:25 there is a big sameness from quest portal to kathryn, i think placing it just below the quest portal would be a good idea 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17858 15:27 yeah was thinking between soko and quest 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the orcish high priestess of Moloch, on T:48623 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:921 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (piranha), on T:973 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:48667 15:43 dammit the engulfing code uses different messages for non-fatal damage ("burning to a crisp" instead of "on fire") without consideration for if the engulfed monster or you can actually burn 15:43 its enum time baby 16:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:06 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:11 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22043 16:16 Oh yeah, at some point we have to make the Eye of the Beholder suck less 16:17 and also retool The Beholder™ itself, since Evil beholders are non-unique 16:17 Related, a funny thing to do in your variant and/or evil would be having beholders grudge other beholders 16:18 [EvilHack] krmaxson opened pull request #97: Meltfix - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/97 16:19 sorry that the itty bitty fix manhandled so many files but there it is 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Fem Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:19260 16:19