02:41 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:16 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2443 04:21 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:27 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 05:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 1751316 points, T:99692, killed by brainlessness 07:31 D: 07:31 !lastgame 07:31 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1658453428.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1658487818.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1658397965.evil.html 07:32 !lastgame lgxia 07:32 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lgxia/evilhack/dumplog/1656948630.evil.html 08:01 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4800 08:04 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:5146 08:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:20 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:26 Took me a night a most of the morning, but I figured out how to port over wands of fireball. whew. I'm taking the rest of the day off. 08:27 This exercise in interpreting the differences between slashem and evil is pretty educational, but tedious. 08:27 hah nice hackemslashem 08:27 For a while my wands were exploding and shooting poison... 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4563 points, T:7091, killed by a tortle shaman, while paralyzed by a monster 08:27 yeah there are significant differences between 3.4.3 codebase and 3.6 08:28 and then again 3.6 to 3.7 08:28 I didn't realize there is a strict order in how wand effects are processed 08:28 And you have to maintain that order in objects.c 08:28 yeah for some things, order is important 08:29 I'm really OCD when it comes to alphabetizing so it's really hard not to re-organize stuff, and that is not a good thing with nethack code :P 08:30 Well now I've made it easy for you to import wands of draining K2, that would be fun right? 08:31 heh 08:31 wands of draining? no that's too much 08:31 too much for evil?! what is this easybabyhack? 08:31 no, thats unnethack 08:31 :P 08:32 I genuinely do not think people would enjoy being drained to hell with no chance at recourse by a random gnome on level 3. 08:32 I think as long as they don't have more than 4-5 charges they are fair game 08:32 in all seriousness, you have to remember the slash'em author didnt really have game balance on their mind. they just added whatever sounded cool and went 'yolo' 08:32 wand of death is instant though, wands of draining give you some time to react 08:32 I would rather it be instant at that point. 08:33 hackemslashem I'm sure they may be some things you add from slash'em, i'll look at it and go 'oh hey that'd be cool for evilhack too' 08:34 So far I've been trying to stick to the basic porting over, I have done a few improvisations, but I'm trying to just get through most of the slashem stuff first before I get too creative. I am building up a pretty good list of ideas though 08:35 wand of draining is less punishing in slashem because the xp curve is better 08:35 I did make juggarnauts way stronger though... 08:35 nice 08:35 and it 08:35 it took me 6 months from when i started on evilhack to when I made a public release on the hdf servers 08:35 's really rare (thank goodness) 08:35 so no need to rush 08:36 I was wondering if there was a way to have the draining be based on monster level... 08:36 probably 08:36 the most efficient speedrun route for getting your new variant onto the server is probably 08:36 ctrl+c evilhack ctrl+v hackem, call it 1.0.0, pester K2 for addition 08:37 then later on add the slashem stuff :^) 08:37 yes... thats it exactly 08:37 what? 08:37 lol 08:37 evilhack + slashem = hackem lol 08:38 I'm just joking that the fastest way to get your new variant is just for initial release to be exact copy of evilhack 08:38 but it was just a joke sorry 08:38 Oh ha, right now it is, but with more monsters and items... 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4116 08:40 I'm pretty much on schedule, the easy stuff is easy - the hard stuff has lots of strings attached and I'm putting off or will delegate to someone smarter than me (torches, wooden stakes killing V, etc etc) 08:41 You try to change something, and then realize it's connected to 50 other things ... 08:53 on schedule? you have a 'finish by' date? 08:53 because that doesnt really exist :) 08:58 hackemslashem if you need a hand with something specific I'd be happy to try and help 09:01 agile scrum buzzword buzzword 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 3594 points, T:4771, killed by a werewolf 09:02 convening daily standup for the hackem squad, any blockers? any blockers?? 09:03 no impediments!! 09:05 alright, I've put in a user story for using wooden stakes to automatically kill vampires, be sure to be there in the refinement meeting this afternoon, then we'll try to fit it in this sprint in tomorrow's sprint refinement meeting 09:05 there's some confusion with the customer as to whether meat steaks are also allowed to instantly kill vampires, but we'll figure that out as we go 09:13 MVP is looking good! 09:21 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:25 ahh jeez customer just called me up, they just decided they actually want hackem to be fourk + slashem, sorry guys, but I'm sure we can still deliver on time 09:26 hahah 09:26 qt check this out - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/96 09:27 we'll go with the usual - no overtime pay but we will buy you a pizza during crunch time 09:27 let's go team! 09:30 overtime pay or we walk 09:30 k2 very nice 09:31 you see anything that needs adjusting? 09:35 it makes sense to me, i didn't notice anything that would be a problem from reading it. for formatting to be consistent 'void blind_glowwarnings()' should be formatted like 'void\nblind_glowwarnings(VOID_ARGS)' 09:37 I was going to ask krm26 to change glowwarnings to glow_warnings as well, makes it easier to read 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3387 09:41 certain devteam members would make it "glowarnings" 09:41 or worse, glo_warnings 09:42 glowering 09:43 blindGlowWarnings 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3989 09:53 just change it to 'rave_chemsticks' 09:55 isn't there a variant that actually has glow sticks 09:56 no idea 09:57 do lightsabers count? 09:57 isn't there a variant that has fully life-like and accurate king cakes? 09:57 no wait i was misremembering, only FAUX king cakes 09:57 unfortunately noone is brave enough to be that epic qt 09:59 7B1210 09:59 6A13071 09:59 4 09:59 7B1210 09:59 6A13071 10:00 4 10:00 ? 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9425 points, T:5531, quit 10:00 oops 10:01 7B1210 10:01 6A13071 10:01 4 10:01 lets make it a trend 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] chavalitp (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:59, choked on a jackal corpse 10:03 was scanning a barcode to program this scanner, cursor was not focused on the correct window :) 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4380 10:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1602 points, T:4461, killed by a marilith of Huhetotl 10:25 we have successfully exfiltrated K2's secret barcodes 10:28 NOOOO 10:28 tell me what that barcode sequence does qt, and for what device 10:29 it activates the warheads in the united states strategic nuclear arsenal 10:31 bzzt, try again 10:31 (good guess though) 10:32 ^ disinformation 10:32 hahah 10:53 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:9371 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:9542 10:58 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 11:00 lol backscroll 11:03 amateurhour: Should I start an etherpad? 11:05 yeah, it's pretty easy and a lot of fun. you just soak a pad with ether and huff it. 11:11 ok, i shouldn't have eaten my way up to level 30 on the priest quest, npcs are crawling out of the woodwork to rough me up 11:12 hackemslashem whatever works for you really, whether that's github issues or an etherpad or just a TODO list somewhere it's all good 11:12 is it possible to tin wraith meat? i've never tried, figured they would all rot away 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:10784 11:13 No. 11:22 I have a todo list that is getting quite long on my laptop... It needs to be soaked in ether so it doesn't cause stress 11:22 qt, k2 -- i had used "glowwarnings" as a compound noun to make it easy to findall the relevant content. but i made the underscore change, and fixed the formatting for blind_glow_warnings 11:22 (and removed the dummy artifacts) 11:28 cool 11:28 i will test here soon 11:28 krm26 you're this close to becoming an official contributor :P 11:29 K2, krm26: btw, last night I made a little toy program to read and write structs in a file, so I could look at it with a hex editor and see the 'free bits' in action. Kind of interesting to observe it directly. 11:30 oh wow 11:30 yeah, in the "old days" that was de rigueur 11:30 we all had custom personal tools like that, since nothing like gdb existed 11:31 it is fun digging down to the nuts and bolts 11:32 although i like to be able to assume that the hardware works :-) 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:12043 11:33 i spent 3 whole days in...1989?...checking wire lengths on a new wire wrap supercomputer board for the Zephyr to try to diagnose some weird memory crash. that is where my idea of "fun troubleshooting" dies in a ditch and becomes hell 11:35 although it was cool to get to work on a one-off handbuilt supercomputer (this was a custom 60 bit machine, predating the rollout of the alpha, etc., which "bridged" the dying CDC Cyber architecture to the new world of 64bit stuff) 11:35 wow 11:37 whennnn i was seventeeeen 11:38 it was a very good year 11:46 was wondering if the whole structure of "use slots" in nethack was ripe for abstraction to simplify how races and monsters can use equipment -- noodling around in the code at a random wearing-related location i see that it looks like a centaur npc can wish for boots of speed, and then fail to wear them 11:46 cuz there is a centaur hack for wearing boots rather than a function like has_feet 11:47 i suppose maybe all centaurs are too fast to wish for speed boots? 12:16 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:16 there's a check, if the monster is already FAST, they shouldnt wish up a speed object 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1939 points, T:2183, killed by a wolf 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to her by Mog, on T:37866 12:40 see, that is the kind of thing i would have left a comment in to the effect that if a slow monster without feet is ever introduced that code will produce bad results 12:44 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4539 points, T:4076, killed by the Goblin King 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1690 13:01 is "blessed +2 silver dragon scales" a legal wish? 13:02 Yes. 13:02 cool, thanks! Wasn't sure about the enchantment with the new patch. 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 silver dragon scales", on T:38609 13:03 You just have to wish for the scales rather than the mail, the wish itself isn't functionally much different. 13:05 fruit juice is smoky this game 13:25 if you wish for the dsm, you'll get scales instead 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 331 points, T:841, killed by a flint stone 14:14 does the scale enchantment transfer to the armor when melded? 14:14 been running nothing but giants and tortles for a while :-) 14:20 no 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed ring of p'hul", on T:52905 14:25 thx throne! 14:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:43 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:54018 14:44 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:54069 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:54427 14:54 omigod the mitre is such a bad quest artifact 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful pony, on T:3408 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:3634 15:09 its awesome 15:09 you take that back 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Ride (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3561 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Ride (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4255 15:38 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4869 points, T:5005, killed by a system shock 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Ride (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a stone orcish dagger on an altar, on T:4849 16:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:38 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:2652 16:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a mithril spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3292 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3335 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3759 17:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a silver knife entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3960 17:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 17:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:11 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6832 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 29 steel crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:7090 17:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18087 points, T:8313, killed by an energy vortex 17:43 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7982 17:43 -!- Guest7982 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:47 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 186068 points, T:18732, quit 19:12 !lastgame 19:12 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1658497694.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Snuff/evilhack/dumplog/1594076771.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1658397965.evil.html 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 3024 points, T:2807, poisoned by a rotted glob of gray ooze, while sleeping 19:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a bone spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6539 19:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6769 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:43072 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Master Assassin, on T:43419 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43422 20:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:9837 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:43728 20:36 is cursed amnesia a good way to reset my trained skill levels? I have no spells so no worries there 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:13931 21:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 480 points, T:1936, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 274 points, T:1173, killed by a hobbit 21:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 850 points, T:2860, killed by a falling object 21:21 -!- qt has quit [Quit: later] 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:16753 21:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 437 points, T:911, killed by an arrow 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible dgoddard's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:17558 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:17725 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18851 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 40331 points, T:22201, killed by a mumak 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2510 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5282 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16163 points, T:8355, killed by a giant leech