01:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:4001 01:12 * arahael should start engraving intelligent stuff when testing wands, in case Hecubus thinks it's notable. 01:14 It only takes whatever breaks illiterate conduct. 01:14 Right. 01:33 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:17 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 04:54 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Healing's a ghost potion. 06:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:467 06:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2913 points, T:875, killed by a gnomish wizard 06:26 *sigh*, hate those wizrds. 06:40 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:44 arahael: gelatinous cubes are immune to shock 06:44 oh, i see mobileuser already clued you in, oops 06:45 Yeah. :( Was a good game, too. 06:45 smoky full healing is the worst of the possibilities imo. 06:50 Playing dwarf for the first time. 06:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1050 07:03 i don't find the vanilla racial differences for monk different -- tortle, giant, centaur are the real variants 07:03 dwarf just means there's a lot of early game stuff you can't kill without a ding :-) 07:04 And infravision. 07:04 Though, once I get the eyes that'll be irrelevant. 07:05 giant monk is where its at 07:05 chaotic giant monk 07:05 Yeah, I selected "monk", and randomized everything else. 07:06 So I seem to be neutral dwarven monk. 07:07 Dwarven monk means you're not gonna be as heavy a caster as others, elven monk is probably the best caster but eats shit the second anything ferrous scratches them... 07:07 And monks already have constitution trouble as it is 07:08 Yep. 07:08 Ok, this is actually annoing, the gnomish mines are *entirely* peaceful. 07:10 I usually rack up a ton of experience, like, I like to be grand master when I'm done. 07:11 you can skip the mines and do sokoban first 07:12 I'm giong to have to, I can't kill the gnomes and dwarves to get the pickaxe, which I need, as it turns out. 07:15 you can of course use your pet to get you that stuff 07:22 I forgot I start with pets! ;) 07:22 I usually ignore the pet. 07:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10756 07:25 arahael, pets can be incredibly useful. monks obviously don 07:26 dont need to do much but steamroll everything, but many roles they are invaluable for 07:26 magic whistle + poly trap can mean annihilating the dungeon through the castle with an arch lich or vorpal jabberwock 07:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 07:28 krm26: Good point, I just get impatient, I guess. 07:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:3301 07:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Dwa Fem Neu), 4828 points, T:3717, killed by a blast of frost 07:45 Dwarves do not like frost. 07:46 (Neither do most races, but this dwarf did not like it) 07:49 tortle monk! do tortle monk! 08:00 Yeah, but the RNG says another Dwarven Monk. :( I don't like dwarven monks, I think. 08:00 Tortle is awesome, though I feel super limited with the armour. 08:04 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:07 Aww feck it, I'm just going to die and do something more fun. 08:07 * arahael takes krm26's suggestion and does Tortle. 08:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (dwarves), on T:448 08:07 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Dwa Fem Law), 303 points, T:448, killed by a scroll of genocide 08:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1091 08:24 Well, I might head to bed now! But will continue the tortle game tomorrow. 08:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 15388 points, T:13699, killed by an Uruk-hai called Ulahaia of Ogakhabane 08:46 gnite arahael 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3844 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6071 points, T:4950, killed by a piranha 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) had a spellbook of detect treasure given to her by Anshar, on T:45393 09:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 5986 points, T:2917, killed by a soldier ant 09:56 goddamit third giant priest gonna die to stoning again, just too slow 09:56 you dont have a source of speed? 09:56 nope 09:56 and too late now 09:56 eat, stone, eat, stone, eat, stone 09:56 frustrating... 09:56 from what? beholder? 09:57 this is a soldier with a cockatrice corpse 09:57 oooh 09:57 yeah that can be a real bitch 09:57 can you teleport it away? or sleep/paralyze it? 09:57 all three midgame giant priests with reflection, mr, free action, and lizards -- all three lacking speed. 09:57 i can't get a round k2. if i don't eat i die 09:58 yeah that's the thing with slow giants... 09:58 i haven't had a single round for any of them. i have a million ways to survive if i had two rounds 09:58 odd that you havent found a wand of speed or helm/boots of speed that late in the game 09:58 i mean, i'm standing next to a portal 09:59 trying to decide if i should turn into a statue back on level 11 after jumping through the portal, leaving someone all my stuff, or try eating again on the offchance the guy misses me in the like 5 rounds he has between my one round 09:59 prayer doesn't cure stoning, right? 09:59 doesn't it? 09:59 i just need one round 09:59 wiki... 09:59 i didn't think so 10:00 Major problems: Turning to stone (thanks to a cockatrice or chickatrice) 10:00 yeah praying should work 10:00 really? really 10:01 why did i think that wouldn't work 10:01 well, now i can just never go back through that portal 10:01 so much for the ludios i was excited about 10:01 not rue 10:01 * true 10:01 their cockatrice corpse will rot 10:02 while you are away 10:02 ooo 10:02 that is good, ludios was my best hope for speed 10:05 way to turn that frown upside down 10:06 i don't mind dying but 3 times in a row with basically the same decent toon makes me begin to suspect i realllly suck 10:06 want my dragonhide helm of speed 10:07 you ascended a tortle monk right? 10:07 ah found it on the wiki: 10:07 If an enemy has the corpse and you cannot kill it, you are advised to make your way to another level and wait for the corpse to rot away, which will take place in 250 turns. 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:46080 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) had a blessed steel shield of light entrusted to her by Anshar, on T:46175 10:18 k2, did you see i got a weird super-heavy spellbook as a prayer gift? 10:19 yes 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3188 10:25 so what material do you make your caster shields if you ever wish for them k2? 10:25 wood or bone 10:25 and small shield 10:25 full sized shield not good for casting 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a gold spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3561 10:26 i may rethink shields of light/mobility, maybe make them available as small shield 10:26 i don't accept that there is no material better than bone! i want to meld dragonscales onto my small shield! 10:26 if i do, it'd be a next version thing 10:26 i just got a nice steel shield of light from my god that of course i can't use 10:26 well you can 10:26 yeahhhh 10:26 just cant cast reliably 10:27 :P 10:27 "at all" 10:27 from 0 to 75% failure with one little shield 10:27 so you're saying there's a chance... 10:27 heh 10:27 if i was fast i would consider it 10:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA 10:27 being slow screws over a lot of potential behaviors 10:29 i've thought about there being no shields of reflection/light/mobility as such but having those just be properties that shields can have, then having small/standard/elf/dwarf/orcred/orcwhite being the shield types 10:30 unfortunately not a very evil change, huge bonus for player flexibility 10:30 tortles and to a lesser extent giants would really appreciate it tho 10:33 there are significant balance changes in doing that 10:33 brb 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:4337 10:39 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10426 points, T:5309, killed by a plains centaur 10:46 heeeeey 10:47 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Cen Mal Neu) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to him by Venus, on T:481 10:51 oh damn that's a great early gift 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Cen Mal Neu) had an axe entrusted to him by Venus, on T:1509 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Cen Mal Neu), 1281 points, T:1709, quit 11:10 !lastgame 11:10 K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1657849197.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gpsalmoncannon/evilhack/dumplog/1658121206.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1658145052.evil.html 11:10 ah 11:12 recoverable but i guess he didn't care 11:17 :/ 11:25 does zapping speed on yourself as a giant give you a +spd or set your speed to the wand of speed spd? the later, right? all intrinsic player speed is the same? 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 953 points, T:2333, killed by a rabid dog 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 147 points, T:1232, killed by the Goblin King 11:45 yeah 11:45 i believe so 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5362 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to him by Venus, on T:2302 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:14924 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 4388 points, T:15028, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 12:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 4454 points, T:4754, killed by a crossbow bolt, while praying 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:6088 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6128 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 2539 points, T:6525, killed by a kobold zombie, while dragging an iron ball 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 179446 points, T:47383, killed by a boojum 12:51 damn 13:02 :/ 13:02 getting irritated! there was no reason for me to die there, stupid create monster scroll someone had pinned me in 13:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Val Hum Fem Law), 192 points, T:852, killed by Ms. Ouiatchouane; the shopkeeper 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Con Hum Mal Cha), 98 points, T:352, killed by a kobold 17:29 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:3433 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3742 17:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7191 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 2635 points, T:9182, killed by a hobbit zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Val Hum Fem Law), 6307 points, T:5090, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 19:39 -!- artix_live_2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00 -!- krm26 has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:39 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:12975 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13258 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3182 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 2829 points, T:3656, killed by a hobbit zombie 21:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law), 5538 points, T:2635, killed by a gnome king 21:42 Gnomish wizards blew and burned everything up and then I didn't like the game. 21:42 No bag yet. 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1539 points, T:2012, killed by a shimmering dragon 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4296 points, T:3482, killed by the Goblin King, while dragging an iron ball 22:32 -!- AlbertB has joined #evilhack 22:39 Hi, I need some help regarding the drawbridge in the valley. I can't destroy it wit a wand of striking. 22:40 correct, that's by design 22:40 it can only be opened magically, like a wand of opening or knock spell 22:40 or blessed bell of opening 22:40 o.k. 22:40 there's a guaranteed wand of opening in the valley 22:41 S 22:41 I'll go for the wand of opening... 22:42 Where is the wand? In a box? or just somewhere on the floor? 22:44 Charon 22:45 But he wont take money 22:45 Do I have to kill him? 22:45 kill or steal it from him 22:46 but he ain't botherin' nobody no-how 22:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Charon, on T:54780 22:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:54792 22:54 Well, he is even more dead now. The dog is canned meat. 22:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:54817 22:56 Can't you interact with Charon to open the drawbridge or something? 22:56 Genuinely don't recall what the deal is/was with that. 22:58 Mjolnir is vibratin while bashing black dragons. Is there a chance that is will get desintegrated? That wouldn't be nice. 23:06 No, artifacts should resist a mass majority of the time (if not all - it might be 100% resistance, not sure, so don't quote me). 23:38 yes there's a chance you'll disintegrate mjollnir if you hit a black dragon 23:38 its low though, like 2% 23:41 I forget if it applies to thrown weapons also. 23:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:56007 23:45 Umbire yes 23:46 Right, right. And only artifacts have that resistance - what are the odds of other weapons poofing? 23:47 Well, one of my +6 daggers didn't make it. 23:48 one sec i'll tell ya 23:49 I use unicorn horn against rust monsters and disenchanters. I am not sure whether I shoudl dare to try it against black dragons. 23:50 ok so, objects like the amulet of yendor, the invocation items, black dragon scales, and the artifact Dragonbane resist 100%, they wont be destroyed 23:51 other artifacts have a 2.5% chance of disintegrating 23:51 if an object is fooproofed, or already made of a material that is inherently fooproof (like mithril), 50/50 chance per hit 23:52 and that's over the overall 1 in 6 chance per hit 23:52 *after 23:53 so for a regular object, 1 in 6 chance. for an artifact like mjollnir, 1 in 6, and then 2.5% if the 1 in 6 is met 23:53 code is here https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/uhitm.c#L4467-L4515 23:54 Hmm what could be a feasible strategy to engage black drogons then? 23:54 ranged attack, wands, spells 23:54 Throw rocks and junk untit it dies? 23:54 some players keep a couple 'junk' artifacts handy 23:54 or use the bell of opening as a weapon 23:55 I am a Valk. Spellcasting is not that great. 23:55 some players genocide black dragons 23:55 the hand of vecna is immune also 23:56 so if you're wearing dragonbane or the hand of vecna, punch away 23:56 I got the bell already. Guess I'll bash black dragons to death with it from now on. Thanks! 23:56 no problem and good luck! 23:56 I mean if you have a stack of enchanted daggers, you could probably spare a few 23:57 same with any other projectile