01:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:58060 02:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:11699 03:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 41683 points, T:11779, killed by an air elemental 04:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 05:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:07 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 188 points, T:236, killed by an orcish dagger 05:43 Started a new game. Will watch my alignment MUCH more carefuly. HOpefully find out what's causing it to flip. 06:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:937 07:16 Haven't abused my alignment at all yet in this new game. 07:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1935 07:26 OOOOOOH! 07:27 Is it possible that when I'm a were-creature, if I attack the monsters that were called out (eg, I'm a werewolf, and the werewolf I was attacking summoned wolves), would it abuse my alignment to kill those wolves? (And ditto, for me to kill the werewolf, once turned?) 07:42 killing peaceful creatures, however they ended up peaceful, will ding you 07:43 so you can anger a peaceful creature for a -1 ding and then kill it for free (except for special cases), or kill a peaceful creature instantly without angering it for -5 07:43 since you are always a monk, any meat you eat will also ding you -1 every time 07:52 Except I never ate meat. 07:53 I did eat animal products though - honey, egg, that sort of thing. 07:53 same thing 07:53 royal jelly is fine 07:54 egg is ok too i think? 07:54 Yeah, neither is vegan, but they're vegetarian so should be ok. 08:08 egg should not be vegetarian 08:14 what if its a platypus egg 08:16 krm26: I don't think we have balut in the game. 08:55 I've moderately abused my alignment again! But this time, I got a 'guilty' line. 08:55 First, I made them angry. 08:55 Then, I killed htem. 08:55 That is "moderate". 08:55 krm26: So, no killing it for free, it seem.s 09:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:5346 09:00 Gold. :( 09:01 we should create some funny monsters 09:01 like a leprechaun that hates gold 09:02 or vampires that are obsessed with silver 09:03 K2: YOu should double the chance of a shambling horror, but have two types: The hostile type, and the tame type. 09:04 hah 09:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:7759 09:16 Every time I sac something, I get a gift. :( 09:16 All both times. 09:16 is that a complaint? 09:17 sometimes you can sac 100+ corpses before getting something 09:17 K2: I am trying to make holy water. 10:15 Hmm. A bunch of magic lamps to rub. Wonder what I should wish for. I'm concious that the last major game I had, I died to a freaking locust. How might I get sickness resistance? 10:17 gold dragon scales 10:17 if scaled onto armor 10:17 but you're a monk 10:17 Yeah, so that won't work. 10:17 ring of p'hul is out 10:17 cuz you arent chaotic 10:17 Indeed. 10:17 reach exp level 30 10:18 not great for a monk 10:18 Haven't had any wraiths yet. 10:18 get lucky when crowned 10:18 that too 10:18 Does anyone ever actually get to level 30 without wraiths in evil? 10:18 sure 10:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3168 10:18 "sure". Heh. 10:18 foocubus dancing, potions of gain level 10:18 Oh, yeah, the foo-dancing. 10:19 or just kill stuff. xp curve is much more forgiving vs vanilla 10:19 Ah, interesting. 10:19 I thought it was the opposite? 10:19 no 10:19 but still takes a looong time 10:19 Hmm, so wondering what to wish for then. I think will start with dragonhide speed boots. 10:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Experience_level#EvilHack 10:19 yup 10:20 loooong time 10:20 And then probably a dragonhide robe of decay (Not sure what other object proeprty I can get there instead?) 10:20 and a pretty graph - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:Evilhack_exp.png 10:20 And then keep the third magic lamp for later. 10:20 Yep. A long time. 10:20 dragonhide T-shirt of decay 10:21 mobileuser: Why that instead of the robe? 10:21 I don't have free action yet either, but I'm still early-game. 10:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:21 And this game, importantly, does NOT have the minetown alhoon! 10:22 Hmm, perhaps I should sleep instead. :D 10:22 (It being past midnight) 10:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:23 playing tired = disaster 10:23 Yep. Or distracted. Or sick. 10:23 I almost always do those. :( 10:23 or being fully alert and on top of things 10:24 nethack doesnt care, it will kill you 10:24 Yep. With a freaking locust. Or an early-game alhoon. 10:24 I'm annoyed about that alhoon, just in case it's not apparent. :D 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1024 points, T:4284, killed by a gnomish wizard 10:25 :) 10:48 i hate being an unwilling quantum engineer 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2833 11:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Sam Gia Mal Law), 614 points, T:709, killed by a bolt of cold 11:52 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9de7c077117c...a74dc5afa717 11:52 [EvilHack] k21971 a74dc5a - Fix: very small monsters (and players) vs shallow water/sewage. 11:53 kool 11:53 thanks qt 11:53 did you enjoy swimming in sewage 11:53 very much so 11:53 then i was attacked by a giant leech 11:53 this made me sad 11:53 it's pretty funny, i'm a little surprised it was so easy to implement tbh 11:54 now we need to introduce a very small player race 11:54 so everyone can enjoy it 11:54 and so krm26 can complain that he cant wear any armor at all 11:55 :P 11:55 now i just need to figure out what to do about https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L11 11:55 i looked at this for a bit last night, warn_of_mon and associated code is a mess 11:56 MATCH_WARN_OF_MON(mon) 11:56 if i can figure out #11, i'll officially release 0.8.0 and start on new version 12:00 i think you need to break 'context.warntype.obj' into 'context.warntype.uwep', 'context.warntype.uswapwep', etc. you need a way to tie warning to the specific slot instead of just "you are warned of all these things by various objects" 12:01 hmm 12:01 brb 12:01 or make it some kind of array with object slots and corresponding bitfields with warning bits 12:14 k2: i am totally prepared to complain about that any time you put the race in k2 12:14 how about an "it" -- no clothes, 5 rings :-) 12:16 i don't think that is necessary qt, wouldn't simply adding an array of warned species modified by use/unuse code and replacing warn_of_mon calls with a method that walked that array take care of everything? 12:17 basically doing it the the opposite way from the array of object slots which each include a monster? 12:17 that would be really easy and only break if non-exclusive items warned of the same species 12:17 it is more parsimonious than doing it that way i think 12:18 how many monster "classes" are there? could use a 64bit bitfield 12:18 god damn my legacy brain that cares about bits 12:19 but anyway instead of there being a flag just a bitfield makes everything SUPER ez...if monster types are indexed and there are fewer than your bitfield 12:19 it already uses a bitfield to list the monster types that you are warned of 12:20 but there's no indication of where the warning is coming from (other than extrinsic vs intrinsic) 12:20 and slapping a warning bitfield in the item definitions -- that wouldn't break saves, right? 12:21 so items use the same bitfield to indicate types they warn of 12:22 ok poking around more and seeing how it is done 12:22 so many decades of work where nobody was concerned with making everything data-driven 12:22 oh maybe you could just traverse all your equipped items to find what is warning you of a particular monster, without using anything other than the current bitfield 12:22 is that what you're suggesting? 12:23 right, character would have a union of all their used items warnings; when they needed to know what precisely was offering what warning you'd walk everything 12:24 i guess it IS possible to get the same warning from multiple equipped things right now? like, orcrist + sting dual wielded? 12:27 ueah 12:27 yeah know if you are suggesting a multimap of warning types to items granting them, i think that is the way to go 12:27 (that was supposed to be yeah ok now :-) 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:33976 12:29 Loki concurs 12:49 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:55 windows build is failing again 12:55 same thing as before 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 70816 points, T:35646, killed by a gray unicorn 13:07 did it stop failing at some point? 13:07 huh that's weird, the other ones were retroactively turned into passing builds? 13:10 no i went back and re-ran the build 13:10 it was fixed last night 13:10 now its broke again 13:12 what fixed it? 13:12 did the person update the action? 13:12 no 13:14 i'm pretty sure its a github issue 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a stone small shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4194 14:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:8585 14:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5660 points, T:8886, zombified by an orc zombie, while disrobing 14:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5486 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6397 15:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2044 points, T:4003, killed by a mountain dwarf 15:48 YANI: Convicts can tame the Rat King by chatting to him 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 6878 points, T:7705, killed by a golden naga hatchling 16:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 4 points, T:10, killed by a water demon 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 910 points, T:1926, killed by a little dog 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3196 points, T:5210, killed by an air elemental of Camaxtli 17:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:59928 17:36 first time I've ever sought crowning just for see-invisible intrinsic 17:36 very good reason 17:37 surprisingly difficult late game without it 17:37 was stepping on every magic trap I could find to gain it that way. 17:37 ran out of traps :( 17:37 heh 17:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 253 points, T:1060, killed by a large mimic 17:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1291 points, T:1072, killed by a gas spore's explosion 18:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2837 points, T:4513, killed by the Goblin King 18:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:60741 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide elven helm", on T:60766 18:33 of telepathy? of drain resistance? come ON 18:43 too easy. I need a challenge 18:43 also, I forgot 19:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5410 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6991 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 8432 points, T:7295, killed by a bolt of lightning 21:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7451 21:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4958 points, T:7819, killed by a gold golem, while praying 21:34 Ok, I'm awake, and thinking about wishes! 21:34 No speedboots, so I think that's the main one I need for now. 21:34 Pity I can't get P'hul. :( 21:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:11753 21:38 where's the grease! 21:41 It's dragonhide!!! But yeah, I did think about that... "Do I need the grease?", but somehow didn't think about it for the 'fixed'. 21:42 Much better, now anyway - now I'm -8 AC. 21:46 If I've "moderately" abused my alignment by killing one single peaceful, what's the chance of my quest artifact being asked for back? 21:48 Now, I potentially have two wishes, pre-quest. Gotta think about what I want from them. 21:48 To more wishes, rather. 22:38 How damn many times does one have to rub a magic lamp for it to get out!? :D 22:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:12914 22:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13396 22:49 DEATH RAY! 22:52 ? 22:58 yeah, i have no reflection and there is a deathray going off. 23:24 death ray and earth day are anagrams of each other 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 654 points, T:2722, killed by a giant mimic 23:24 any thoughts arahael?? 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:12, killed by a water demon 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:62536 23:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Mephistopheles, on T:63832