00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful stone giant, on T:68997 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:69020 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful winged gargoyle, on T:69020 00:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 24126 points, T:19571, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:36 noooo lag killed me 00:36 !lastgame 00:36 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1656683396.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1656905132.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1656815625.evil.html 00:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) murdered Clifford, her faithful little dog, on T:1688 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1971 01:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:3107 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed musicdemon's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3279 02:04 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:55 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Val Gia Fem Law), 25463 points, T:11398, killed by a fire giant 04:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:7910 04:39 If it rotted away, did I really eat it? Did I really taste meat? I'd say no! 04:52 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 04:53 Crystal wands shatter? I thought crystal was tough? Like CPM? 05:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 28303 points, T:8870, killed by a blue jelly 05:11 K2: What happened? I hit the blue jelly *once*, but it seems I got multiple rounds of damage. 05:11 !lastgame arahael 05:11 musicdemon: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1656823064.evil.html 05:12 And by "once", I mean, "I hit 'j' exactly once". 05:13 your martial arts at Master gives you multiple attacks 05:13 grand master* 05:14 from the wiki: "Gains an extra fist attack per round using martial arts skill at grand 05:14 master level, and also gains an extra kick attack (random) using martial 05:14 arts skill at master level and higher." 05:17 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:37 Yeah, I think that's what killed me. Damned multiple attacks. 06:33 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Mon Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7119 07:46 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Mon Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:7127 08:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1301 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 stone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4013 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5052 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8894 points, T:5566, killed by a goblin-captain called Goraithosu of Ogula, while praying 09:42 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:42 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1082 points, T:1629, killed by the Goblin King, while unconscious from rotten food 11:28 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 11:31 K2: Re: 3.7 being unnethack lite, I wonder if I ever get feedback on the improvements I did for the autoquiver code. it's one of those "if you know it, you can't unsee it" like with secret doors and corridors and it makes playing other variants really cumbersome 11:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3094 11:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1498 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5454 12:07 bhaak what exactly did you do with autoquiver? 12:07 made it too epic, now if you ever quiver something in unnethack you'll never be able to quiver in any other variant without being sad 12:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3763 points, T:2550, killed by a piranha 12:08 ^ what amateurhour says 12:14 G'night! I should probably sleep and recover. (I'm sick again) 12:14 gnite arahael 12:15 everyone should have epicquiver 12:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 13:14 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 13:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:37 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #evilhack 14:39 K2: Did Nazguls riding fell beasts occur in Evil first, or Splice? 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Mon Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:11524 14:50 nvm, seems to have been a Spork thing 15:18 no not a spork thing, monsters cant ride other monsters in spork 15:20 splicehack invented monsters riding monster, but antigulp only had the riders have steeds. evilhack introduced more monster/steed pairs, including nazgul + fell beast 15:20 Right, that's my b on misremembering 15:42 hasn't splice since added other monsters riding though? 15:42 probably. there's also the thing where monsters can randomly mount other monsters as steeds 15:42 which is the #1 cause of bugs associated with monster steeds 15:43 i would guess only because it happens more frequently than other monster riding 15:45 feels so weird when the shopkeeper has $750 on the floor and he is like 'nope, I'm broke' 15:45 probably a balance thing, though, if bought items gave them more money 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful lesser nightmare, on T:37 15:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:56 @?Nazgul 15:56 Nazgul (W) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon level drain, 2d25 breath sleep | Alignment: -17 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, nopoly, undead, stalker 15:56 @e?Nazgul 15:56 Nazgul (W) | Lvl: 17 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 35 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon level drain, 2d25 breath sleep, 2d8 scream loud | Alignment: -17 | Flags: breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker 15:57 K2 or anyone else: damage die on sleep breath only determines duration, right? 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1246 15:57 Does it like do damage or 16:01 it does damage 16:02 Huh, never noticed 16:02 Suppose I don't run into them enough 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:2544 16:13 @s?Nazgul 16:13 Nazgul (W) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon level drain, 2d25 breath sleep, 2d8 scream stun | Alignment: -17 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, undead, stalker 16:13 @l?Nazgul 16:13 Nazgul (W) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon level drain, 2d25 breath sleep | Alignment: -17 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, nopoly, undead, stalker 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5745 points, T:4010, killed by a soldier ant 16:23 Umbire... lol 16:23 ? 16:23 that nazgul entry is wrong 16:23 How so? 16:23 I'm in the middle of making additional edits so 16:24 didnt we just discuss where fell beast came from? 16:24 Yes, you said Splice and not Spork 16:25 no 16:25 re-read what I wrote earlier please 16:25 Well, the page itself said splice rather than spork, but in any case I just did 16:30 also be aware, in sporkhack the nazgul scream isnt short range. its map-wide 16:30 you wont even see them or they you, they'll scream and you can affected anywhere. makes nazgul a prime genocide target in spork 16:52 k2 are there no fell beasts in splicehack? 16:54 ok there are 16:54 i was confused about that conversation whether splice had them or not 16:54 they are from evilhack but splice adopted them 17:03 wtffffff 17:04 chameleon turned into arch-lich, then touch of death - dead 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Mon Cen Fem Neu), 45827 points, T:15103, killed by a touch of death 17:06 blerg 17:07 classic 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:12299 17:27 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:56 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:35 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:43 qt: You meant the rewrite, right? 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5420 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6830 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11861 points, T:7044, killed by a bolt of cold 20:22 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17922 21:00 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 21:02 I've been studying Luxi's nudist zen ascension playthrough for things I can improve on in my game. I was shocked when he donated money to the minetown priest, even though the temple was cross-aligned. The wiki says this shouldn't be possible. What am I missing? 21:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:03 You misread the wiki 21:03 Any temple priest is fine for donations 21:03 Valley's a p. common one for Gehennom mapping in vanilla 21:04 holy crap, this changes everything 21:06 here's the section I was referring to: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Aligned_priest 21:10 this article is a bit more clear about it: "For clarity: you can buy protection at any temple with a peaceful 21:10 priest, be it to your god, a rival god, or to Moloch, but not at a 21:10 desecrated temple." 21:10 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Aligned_priest#Chatting_to_a_priest 21:18 You were thinking of a converted temple 21:20 I linked the wrong article before. Basically, I saw this section awhile back : 21:20 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Chat#Aligned_priests 21:20 and because it specified the donation would be to an aligned priect, I inferred that it wouldn't work for cross-aligned priest 21:22 Aligned as in "any alignment" 21:22 To distinguish them from player monsters 21:24 ah, I see. I guess I conflated 'co-aligned' with 'aligned', even though they aren't really the same 21:26 thanks for clarifying! Was super confused when I saw the video 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Mon Gia Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8687 21:46 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had 14 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:11393 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3368 points, T:3682, killed by a fire elemental of Chih Sung-tzu 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Mon Gia Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a giant beetle corpse, on T:13469 22:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 801 points, T:1207, killed by the Goblin King 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Mon Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:17740 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant spider, on T:5257 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5267 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:5273 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5993 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Mon Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold, on T:19137 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11572 points, T:6797, killed by a dwarf lord 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Mon Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19824 23:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1109 23:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4372 points, T:2456, killed by a gnoll cleric, while paralyzed by a monster