00:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3698
00:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an oval amulet on an altar, on T:4260
00:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8092 points, T:4518, killed by a hezrou
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02:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:90232
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02:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:90247
02:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 407 points, T:1394, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a monster's gaze
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03:13 <screamingskull> @e?Kathryn
03:13 <Hecubus> No such monster.
03:13 <Umbire> @e?Kathryn the Ice Queen
03:13 <Hecubus> Kathryn the Ice Queen (@) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold sleep petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 3d4 weapon physical, 8d8 touch cold, 3d8 cast clerical, 3d8 cast spell | Alignment: -128 | Flags: omnivore, flies, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly
03:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:90566
03:15 <screamingskull> was not sure if she was drain resist    thanks @Umbire
03:15 <screamingskull> Was not sure if it would accept "Kathryn"
03:15 <screamingskull> Hell, it accepts ————
03:15 <screamingskull> @?eWampire Mage
03:15 <Hecubus> No such monster.
03:15 <screamingskull> @?eWampireMage
03:15 <Hecubus> No such monster.
03:16 <Umbire> You're botching the syntax now is why.
03:16 <screamingskull> @e?Wampire Mage
03:16 <Hecubus> Wampire Mage ~1~ vampire mage (V) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Attacks: 2d8 claw level drain, 1d8 bite level drain, 2d6 cast spell | Alignment: -9 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, stalker, infravisible
03:16 <Umbire> It tries to find the closest entry, but Kathryn's entry is a full name.
03:16 <Umbire> So just "Kathryn" doesn't work.
03:16 <Umbire> Your example meanwhile is only one letter off.
03:16 <Umbire> Bit of a difference, that.
03:17 <screamingskull> I knew I was botching . . .got "Excited" about the Wampire
03:17 <screamingskull> ;0
03:37 <arahael> Why does K2 get rid of the rougelike level?
03:37 <Umbire> Iunno, ask K2.
03:38 <arahael> K2, same question. :D
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06:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Bar Cen Mal Neu), 10586 points, T:5254, killed by Mr. Kabalebo; the shopkeeper
06:18 <musicdemon> saw a red 1 from warning and saw the G glyph - threw a dagger without looking...it was the shopkeeper! lol
06:24 <Umbire> You likely targeted a mimic in the shop.
06:25 <musicdemon> yeah, death by laziness
07:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:54942
07:07 <aosdict> arahael: I assume it's similar to bhaak's reasoning: "The dungeon is getting full and the rogue tribute level is adding little in gameplay variation and is mostly a nuisance for players or worse a confusing level for new players that haven't played or even heard of rogue."
07:07 <arahael> "full", though?
07:07 <arahael> I mean, I don't have much against removing it.
07:09 <aosdict> there's a lot of new branches and stuff, there can only be one branch per level
07:09 <Umbire> Also, special levels such as Aphrodite, the Big Room, etc.
07:10 <aosdict> Granted, I used this exact reasoning in xnethack, which doesn't have the dungeon getting any fuller than vanilla :)
07:11 <arahael> Hmm, I suppose.
07:11 <musicdemon> huh, I observe a monster wield a weapon and didn't see a curse-related message. I figure it's uncursed or better, then go to wield it myself - cursed. Is that a change in evilhack?
07:15 <musicdemon> I was expecting to see the message 'The mithril long sword welds itself to the grey elf's hand!'
07:16 <mobileuser> as far as I know, evilhack didn't change that...
07:16 <arahael> I also remember not being able to rely on that.
07:20 <krm26> probably wielded it out of your sight
07:20 <krm26> you only get the message on-use
07:20 <krm26> you always get it if you see the monster wield something
07:20 <krm26> afaik
07:21 <musicdemon> I saw 'the elf wields the sword' message, though
07:21 <musicdemon> I'm checking the code to see what's up
07:22 <Umbire> Was the monster out of your sight?
07:23 <bhaak> even without a fuller dungeon, you can ask what the rogue level brings to the table. it's mostly a interface screw and an annoyance to lure the wraiths off-level
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07:25 <bhaak> as a tribute, it's also too invasive for my taste
07:26 <musicdemon> The monster was visible to me - I checked the game log to be sure. The only changes between evil and vanilla with this code are a bugfix from 5 days ago related to the message itself about body parts.
07:26 <musicdemon> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/e4f67c38bbc3c9144f9c4aa8f0276e8a3c3fd86d/src/weapon.c#L1135
07:26 <musicdemon> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/weapon.c#L826
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07:27 <musicdemon> but it will only return the message if mwelded(obj) returns true
07:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:55583
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07:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:56131
07:53 <krm26> ohhh you tricksy god trying to get me to pop it into my bag
07:56 <aosdict> bhaak: but I bet patr will have to be dead before you can get it removed from vanilla
07:57 <arahael> I really like having the upstairs from the rogue level be to the devteam's office, in tnnt.
07:58 <amateurhour> replace rogue level with an extra copy of flipped 2a
07:58 <amateurhour> patr likes flipped soko so that's a good compromise
07:58 <amateurhour> :)
07:59 <arahael> Nasty.
08:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:56194
08:02 <krm26> thank you fruit juice!
08:02 <arahael> Ugh, flipped soko, right now.
08:02 <bhaak> aosdict: likely :)
08:03 <amateurhour> YASI: one of the fake wiz tower floors could be the wiz tower from 1.3d instead with rogue level override
08:03 <amateurhour> maybe YANI depending on how u feel
08:14 <krm26> YA*I
08:35 <Umbire> Like, I'd rather make it an optional branch over removing it
08:36 <Umbire> But I tend to prefer repurposing to just removal
09:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:16303
09:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16754
09:23 <K2> arahael - i've never enjoyed the rogue level, imo it didnt add anything to the gameplay experience. so i nixed it
09:24 <K2> ^ rogue level
09:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:17243
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09:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed arnibald's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:17442
09:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:12352
09:50 <arahael> K2: Ah.  That's fair enough.  I always liked it, but that's me.
09:51 <amateurhour> I always found it rly unfair there was a whole level dedicated to rogues and none for monks
09:52 <aosdict> there are 5 levels dedicated to monks
09:52 <amateurhour> which?
09:52 <amateurhour> the copypasted priest ones? :P
09:55 <arahael> I find it weird how the monk home level has...  Nothing in it.
09:56 <aosdict> play xnh monk
09:57 <aosdict> I'll badmouth vanilla monk quest all day and tell people to play xnh
09:57 <aosdict> monk is probably going to be the next redesigned quest, because I haven't really overhauled it, just made levels less bad
09:57 <K2> more big good for less sad
09:58 <Umbire> I like what was done with Cave quest on that note
09:58 <aosdict> can't remember if I changed anything in cav quest besides the text, and that was from fourk
10:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law), 31258 points, T:17809, killed by an ancient pseudodragon, while sleeping
10:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3276
10:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1320 points, T:1751, killed by a hobbit pickpocket, while frozen by a potion
10:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 15286 points, T:11363, killed by the Goblin King
10:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:6981
10:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3741
10:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed ring of p'hul", on T:3765
10:48 <K2> oh man, that ring is made of gold
10:48 <K2> lol I know what i'm genociding
10:50 <Umbire> Lmfao gross.
10:52 <krm26> hah
10:52 <krm26> gold is the worst
10:52 <krm26> i had gold freedom with gold-stealing shambling horrors earlier this year
10:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a gnomish soldier), on T:16582
11:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) had a dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:9153
11:16 <arahael> K2: Should be allowed to temporarily blacken the gold ring with a magic marker. ;)
11:17 <arahael> Like grease.
11:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:17424
11:23 <krm26> k2: so if wand of wishing is generated as an iron wand, does that mean you can farm iron golems for wands of wishing? is the % chance of an iron wand from an iron golem corpse flat regardless of what the wand is?
11:23 <krm26> since you can also manufacture iron golems from iron crap
11:32 <krm26> argh of course my pegasus gets turned into a statute by a random chickatrice over lava
11:33 <krm26> dammit
11:33 <K2> arahael hahah
11:33 <krm26> stuck in lava surrounded by lava without enough charges of cold to freeze everything adjacent so i can dig out
11:33 <K2> krm26 good question, i dont know for sure
11:34 <krm26> if i break my wand of cold, do you think that will freeze all the adjacent lava so i can dig myself out?
11:34 <krm26> stupid no teleport lava
11:35 <K2> yup
11:35 <krm26> my only other option is a scroll of earth so i hope this works
11:36 <krm26> damn i hate pets
11:38 <Umbire> Breaking the wand is generally the best call
11:39 <Umbire> From my understanding, I don't typically end up in fixes like these so I can't say with condifence
11:39 <Umbire> *confidence
11:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3971
11:40 <krm26> yeah i get it i make bad life choices
11:41 <arahael> Man, wresting a wand is so tedious. Can't imagine that this was once a tricky decision for evil.
11:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:4337
11:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4337
11:53 <Umbire> I mean no, I wasn't saying it like that, I just freeze what lava I can wherever possible if I ever plan on crossing it.
12:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9542
12:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6364
12:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1795 points, T:2404, killed by a piranha
12:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:7105
12:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:9157
12:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 5000 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Zlaw's hardware store, on T:9503
12:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 12921 points, T:11134, zombified by a diseased orc corpse
12:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3714
12:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:4200
12:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 384 points, T:1134, killed by Mr. Annootok; the shopkeeper
13:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4368
13:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5091 points, T:5029, killed by an owlbear
13:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:22779
13:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:2531
13:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 3086 points, T:2591, poisoned by a rotted wood nymph corpse
13:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:12082
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible AlbertB's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:12649
14:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed telegarn's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:12822
14:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a leather helm of speed entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9800
14:19 <K2> booyah
14:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:11028
14:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2542
14:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:13453
14:57 <krm26> that spear with a silver flail and you're in business!
14:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:17010
15:04 <K2> or mithril so its light
15:07 <krm26> it is really so sad knights can't forge bone lances
15:08 <krm26> dual bone lances of shock/frost...mmm, so fun
15:11 <K2> i think if you put bone near any kind of intense it, it burns
15:11 <K2> hence the no forging bit
15:11 <krm26> dragonbone!
15:11 <K2> *intense heat
15:11 <K2> jfc i cant type for shit today
15:11 <krm26> drgoneBONE dragonBONE dragonBONE
15:11 <K2> worse than usual
15:12 <krm26> i can't believe i haven't found ANY arrows or darts with properties this game...really hampering my aklysing
15:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic lamp", on T:62743
15:18 <krm26> you know what would actually make me maybe sorta like the mitre of holiness a little bit? if parts of its special pray shtick were giving you a warning if you were praying during your timeout
15:18 <krm26> then it would let me be inattentive, which is the hallmark of an excellent artifact
15:19 <krm26> OR treat you as if you were standing on scare monster during your incapacitated #turn rounds
15:20 <krm26> hesperides nerfs its +1MC, nobody gives a crap about an item's fire resistance (unless you start capping intrinsics at 90% or something), and the half physical damage is limited to stuff that mostly doesn't do a lot of physical damage anyway
15:21 <krm26> ORRR :-).... supress demon teleporting when adjacent to the worn helm. no blipping to the stairs for orcus or whoever
15:27 <K2> hmm
15:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 407118 points, T:61338, killed by a torrent of acid
15:34 <krm26> giant npcs with keys one level below your stash who cursed gain level right to it, open your stash and loot it, and then do a level teleport are SO GREAT THANK YOU K2
15:34 <K2> lol
15:35 <K2> that's not on purpose, but its so edge case awesome that that happened
15:35 <K2> what are the odds
15:35 <krm26> i just happened to have taken my wand of wishing out of it a few turns before, so i lucked out there
15:36 <K2> if only there was a way to stash your stuff without having to worry about other monsters getting into it
15:36 <K2> hmm
15:36 <K2> if only...
15:36 <krm26> i'm not sure i've seen an npc yet this game who hasn't had at least one level teleport
15:36 <krm26> crystal chests are too heavy!
15:36 <K2> no they arent
15:36 <krm26> wahh wahhh
15:36 <K2> they are actually 100 aum lighter than a regular chest
15:36 <krm26> regular chests are too heavy! all chests are too heavy!
15:36 <krm26> i want em in the right place
15:37 <krm26> and believe me i *have* died because i was stressed moving a chest to the right level
15:37 <krm26> many many times
15:37 <krm26> it is the perfect krm26 mousetrap
15:39 <krm26> alright this is my own fault -- a second npc i hit with confuse monster is now reading a stack of teleport scrolls
15:40 <K2> ... lol
15:40 <K2> this is so awesome
15:40 <K2> i am literally lol'ing
15:41 <K2> thank you, i needed this today
15:41 <krm26> i think i've chasing 2 npcs now, but i caught the one that raided my stash and did not approach him until he was no longer confused :-)
15:41 <krm26> 2 more to run down
15:42 <krm26> what makes me nervous these days is the npc who has gray scaled armor on...have to remember to start probing
15:42 <krm26> btw, shouldn't npc wizards and maybe priests be able to knock crystal chests?
15:44 <krm26> (honestly the best parts of evilhack for me are when it sneaks up behind and screws me when i'm totally not expecting it)
15:44 <krm26> although i prefer those times to happen before the ascension run :-)
15:45 <krm26> and i think i have just taught myself to not use confused monster ever on npcs
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16:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4544
16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 9945 points, T:5391, disintegrated by an antimatter vortex
16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16924
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16:36 <K2> you really want me to make the monster spell 'knock' ?
16:36 <K2> or allow monsters to use wands of opening?
16:36 <K2> i dont think you want that
16:37 <screamingskull> if a pet vampire mage that was tamed in vampire bat form get infected from a zombie, it dies and reconstitutes as a vampire mage, correct?
16:37 <Umbire> I would think so.
16:38 <K2> it should
16:38 <screamingskull> so, there is a bug or some odd behavior that has been confirmed
16:38 <K2> tame or not
16:38 <screamingskull> we talked/chatted about this
16:38 <K2> refresh my memory please
16:39 <screamingskull> feed a vampire mage in bat form corpses for resistances, it still says shapechanger in the status line and when it dies it simply dies
16:39 <K2> hmm
16:39 <screamingskull> so, either the food-eating is doing something weird
16:39 <screamingskull> or something else
16:40 <Umbire> Were you wearing a PFSC ring?
16:40 <Umbire> I wasn't here for this, so.
16:40 <screamingskull> do not need it in Evil
16:40 <Umbire> Probably an illness thing then.
16:41 <screamingskull> but bats rise as vampire when sickened
16:41 <Umbire> You'd think actual vamps would be immune
16:41 <screamingskull> they are
16:41 <K2> you dont need ring of protection from shapechangers in evil?
16:41 <K2> did i read that right?
16:41 <screamingskull> bat was given fire, cold and telepathy
16:42 <screamingskull> tthought you removed that?
16:42 <screamingskull> they never change shape
16:42 <K2> the ring wasnt removed, no
16:42 <screamingskull> and when I let a vampire mage in bat form die, without giving it food or resistances , it always transforms into a vampire
16:43 <screamingskull> removed having to have a ring PFSC for pet vampires
16:44 <screamingskull> one of my favorite ways to get it to be a vampire mage is either dragon breath, etc. or giant or ettin zombie illness
16:45 <K2> i think this is what you mean screamingskull - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/88a376bdd424362e4765d02d686d9da8d36e512c
16:45 <screamingskull> and ,yes, you definitetly need PFSC in Evil!  ;)    Dies too many times to alhoons in Soko!    :)
16:46 <K2> i'll have a look, added it to the bug tracker
16:46 <screamingskull> yes, and I never wear PFSC for my pet vampires
16:46 <screamingskull> they die in bat form ,they become a vampire
16:46 <screamingskull> they never change back to a fog cloud or bat
16:47 <screamingskull> (which kills their monster level, HPs and more)
16:47 <screamingskull> in vanilla you NEED to wear them
16:47 <screamingskull> or they change into a fog cloud the first locked door they meet
16:48 <screamingskull> (which really kills pet vampires in vanilla)
16:48 <screamingskull> and thanks for looking into this further
16:48 <screamingskull> was extra careful to confirm it this time
16:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible k2's ghost, the former Brute, on T:17107
16:50 <K2> yup my plan is to take a break from playing this evening and look at patching a few things
16:55 <screamingskull> wow . . .committment.  :)      during . . .Junethack?!?
16:55 <screamingskull> :)
16:55 <screamingskull> really seems it ought to be JuNetHack.
16:56 <screamingskull> But then it really is Ju Nethack ?  and not June nethack?
17:00 <K2> yeah junethack is the best time to ferret out bugs
17:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Brute, on T:17147
17:08 <K2> oh wow, this was a dbl me bones level
17:19 <screamingskull> i need to take a break from playing, too  ... but damn (and bless) you for somehow making NetHack even *more* addictive.
17:20 <qt> K2: screamingskull's point about vampires is re: a540407 i think
17:20 <K2> thank you very much! glad you're enjoying evilhack
17:20 <screamingskull> and, I am still playing the character who had their stash chest eaten by xorn
17:20 <screamingskull> the spell retention change is quite fun and makes a lot more sense
17:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3442
17:21 <screamingskull> I went from 1-10% with drain life (one of my favorite spells in Evil!) to 100%
17:21 <K2> nice
17:21 <screamingskull> and no spellbooks
17:21 <K2> qt ah right
17:22 <screamingskull> regarding vampire mages dying or the protection from shape changers thing?
17:23 <qt> the protection from shapechangers thing
17:23 <qt> k2 made it so pet vampires will stay in vampire form. for some reason the commit suggests it is a bugfix but I think it's really more like a new feature/change
17:28 <K2> maybe its a bug the devteam isnt aware of
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17:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 301666 points, T:26497, suffocated by a gelatinous cube
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17:35 <qt> it just doesn't really seem like a bug to me, that pet vampires behave the same way as normal vampires
17:36 <qt> they're more useful pets when they are in vampire form though, for sure
17:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed mightyquinn's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:18319
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17:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 29121 points, T:14108, killed by a vampire lady
18:02 <K2> woo boy this is what I have for shambler this game - Attacks: 5d8 butt strength poison, 4d7 butt strength poison, 3d6 claw behead, 4d8 claw confuse
18:05 <K2> damn it almost killed me, even without behead kicking in
18:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20146
18:12 <qt> nasty
18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6105
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18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3601
18:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:20406
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9896
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:97385
18:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:97456
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18:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:97772
18:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 17989 points, T:11177, killed by a piranha
19:15 <musicdemon> 'The elven wizard disappears! You smell a dragon!' umm, *what* lol
19:18 <musicdemon> ah, it's a shapeshifter. Balrog is a little OOD for sokoban, lol
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19:58 <screamingskull> well that's messed up
19:59 <screamingskull> tame a chameleon as a pseudodragon with a meatball
19:59 <screamingskull> it changes into a dragon and becomes hostile to me due to Dragonbane
19:59 <screamingskull> then nearly killed me when it changed into something that was not a dragon
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20:00 <screamingskull> i know chameleons are worthless
20:00 <screamingskull> but they are fun to see how long they can survive
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20:00 <screamingskull> and sometimes the odd change here or there can be useful
20:00 <screamingskull> usually ends with melancholy . . . :)
20:13 <K2> heh
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21:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +5 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:21029
21:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +5 dragonhide cloak of protection", on T:21034
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21:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a small shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:22018
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22:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:22410
22:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22410
22:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:22473
22:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:10653
22:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:11288
22:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a cloak of protection entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:11502
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22:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:13395
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23:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3259
23:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:24942
23:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:103189
23:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:103192