01:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:10804 02:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:11395 02:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7976 02:14 Right, so only helms, gloves and some shields for tortles if I'm remembering right... 02:14 and outside of shields crafting is pretty much unusable for me 02:14 Yes? No? 02:19 Shields and shuriken, rather, can still do that. 02:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a mithril dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:13833 02:42 You know, in case I wasn't done with those orcs 03:17 Sick, RNG luckstone 03:29 Oho, first Rat King encounter incoming. 03:30 @e?Rat King 03:30 Rat King (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: unique | AC: 3 | Attacks: 3d4 weapon physical, 1d6 bite lycanthropy | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, swims, regenerates, poisonous, nopoly, infravisible 04:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19231 04:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:13464 04:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:19507 04:12 Game's easy. 04:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8927 04:16 Hmm. I moved the boulder. I moved it back, then triggered the boulder trap, and that same boulder then hit me? 04:17 Yes. 04:17 I thought that wasn't supposed to happen? 04:17 Boulder traps rely on the boulder occupying a specific square. 04:17 Move it anywhere but that square and it's disarmed. 04:17 rebatela: How's your monk. 04:17 Interesting. It's taken me far too long to realise this. 04:18 okish.. double minetown bones 04:18 rebatela: There's been some horrifying bones lately! 04:18 no coffee over here... might be an issue 04:19 no coffee OR cannabis 04:19 !coffee 04:19 * Hecubus tosses rebatela a esky of cafe latte, excreted by the /dev/null/oracle at 26 degrees Celsius. 04:19 I got Orctown that I basically optimized followed by an RNG luckstone and my first clear of the sewers in my... second time ever getting them? 04:19 First Rat King kill too. 04:23 I thought you guys would destroy every game you play! 04:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:9395 04:25 K2: Found a bug, there's a typo in this fortune cookie, I'll copy it below: 04:25 > It reads: Learn how to spell. Play NetHack! 04:27 umbire: i had a really good game going on EU server last night.. Even got a MARKER from the goblin king 04:27 Nice. 04:27 Nice. I've had that too. 04:27 but then i ran to major K2 bones with Lolth or whtaever her name sis 04:27 is 04:27 triple bones 04:27 on dl20 04:27 I've ALSO freaking had that too. 04:27 yeah... 04:28 Oh, possibly not that one, then. Was I on there? 04:28 i don't remember 04:28 i need drain resistance tho 04:28 soooo i'm playing over here in the states lol 04:28 There was one bones when I went down the stairs... Dead before I even arrived. 04:28 yeah that's probably it 04:29 there were several ghosts regardless i turned right around lol 04:29 That must've been it, then. I didn't have a chance to turn back up. 04:29 Like, I went down, "Uh? Game's over?" 04:32 i have eota so in theory i can teleport past that level and then branch port back to my stash, but i didn't feel like dealing with it 04:32 actually maybe i will play that game... 04:33 breaking in a new keyboard too 04:33 "ergonomic" 04:33 I've never got into the ergonomic keyboard thing. 04:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:20790 04:34 oh i remember there's also a black dragon in one of those cage things and i don't have reflection 04:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2916 04:34 arahael: neither have i hence the breaking in (it's ME being broken in ) 04:35 Heh. 04:35 frustrating because usually if i get eota i'm off to the races 04:35 I've used them a few times, just never ended up liking them. 04:39 Crap. 04:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law), 2900 points, T:3503, killed by a death ray 04:39 Annoying how common those wands are. 04:42 rip 04:42 oh that's right i can't buy protection because orc town 04:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:22953 05:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2634 05:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2378 points, T:3187, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 05:06 🤦 05:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gnoll hunter, on T:16418 05:12 Made it to Soko, saving there. 05:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 9000 points, T:7645, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf king 05:41 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 05:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:960 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:26438 07:06 the famous Moloch daggers 07:06 I need armor! :b 07:36 mobileuser, why the boulder fort around the chest? Won't just one boulder over the chest do? 07:41 no, then that boulder moves -- he is a giant 07:41 with the right boulder arrangement you can reach you chest without having to rebuild your fort 07:43 why have a fort at all? I've just been putting one boulder over my stashes and it has served me fine. There's a risk of a giant snagging the boulder, but I've never seen it 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:1156 07:47 hi musicdemon 07:48 the thing is, I can spend a lot of time at my stash 07:48 meanwhile, OP monsters could generate (I am Infidel, so even at low numbered levels that can happen) 07:48 so I made a ready made boulder fort 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2549 07:49 krm26 a giant can use "m" to move onto a boulder without pushing it 07:50 that's a good point about the monsters. I'll have to consider it for my larger stashes 08:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had 18 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29650 08:10 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4784 08:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law), 7912 points, T:4790, killed by a gnoll hunter 08:15 I had #monster'ed, but it seems when I unmonstered, I was still being crushed. 08:15 Will have to remember that next time. 08:20 I haven't played a human in soooooo long... 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:33977 08:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1124 08:43 K2 is it intended that you still get crushed when monstering as tortle? 08:44 you dont 08:45 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/5ca8cdd75263f1ae1c2946930ab637bd653a349c 08:51 You don't get crushed whilst being monstered. 08:51 But I got out, and the monster definitely still had a pretty strong grip. 09:01 yup 09:01 really surprised no one commented on this from yesterday - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/dfbee140ad1d529dad082c17a5c6fa167452f5f3 09:01 that's kind of a big deal 09:02 I admit my tortle that was close to being ascension ready never enshelled 09:03 K2 should the monster still have a grip when you come out of your shell 09:03 yeah why wouldnt it? 09:04 it should lose the grip when you enshell? 09:04 no? 09:04 ah ok 09:04 that makes sense 09:04 shell isnt made of teflon :) 09:04 yeah :-) 09:08 tortle Infidel WHEN 09:14 hah 09:14 prob never. same reason you dont see dorf inf 09:14 they are primarily lawful 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Mal Una) performed his first genocide (locusts), on T:29371 09:31 K2: I didn't see that, but yes, that is indeed a big deal. 09:32 it covers vampire bites 09:32 unless i make a giant vampire 09:32 hahah 09:34 Of cours.e 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7574 10:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of brown pudding, on T:5577 10:27 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:9630 10:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:6278 10:33 Hmm, so I must've hit with a weapon before? 10:33 Thought I avoided that. 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:10068 10:36 check wtih #conduct 10:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:6948 10:38 k2: anyone ever done a patch to let you assign arbitrary letters to spells, not just a-highestlettercount? 10:38 > You have never hit with a wielded weapon. 10:38 Looks like I still have the conduct. 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Fem Cha), 2218 points, T:3540, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Ms. Melody; the shopkeeper 10:38 And yet, I got a melee weapon? 10:38 oh, but it is an artifact 10:38 Ah. 10:38 artifacts don't count 10:38 in your case, "artifacts" :-) 10:38 Artifacts? :) 10:39 yeah it is dumb that sting is an artifact 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Ith Fem Una), 745 points, T:716, killed by a bolt of cold 10:47 krm26 no they havent 10:53 Darn it, TermIll. And no leaves left. 10:53 Angry god, too. 10:54 Well, at least I had a good romp with the sucumbus. Got raised to my full potential. Still Term ill, though. 10:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 23659 points, T:9170, zombified by a dwarf zombie 10:55 Frustrating end to the game. 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:42 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law), 9234 points, T:11138, killed by Mr. Wonotobo; the shopkeeper 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 2126 points, T:2422, killed by hitting themselves in the face 11:30 ^ that's gonna be a goto unique death to get for junethack 11:31 how do you get that one? 11:31 wiedla cursed weapon as a non-infidel 11:32 eventually you will smack yourself 11:32 *wield a 11:37 not sure if it's worth pursuing unique deaths since you can just go grind a bit in slashem or slashthem 11:38 hitting yourself in the face seems comparatively harder to set up 11:38 junethack allows forks? 11:39 if it is on github it can be forked 11:40 not worth pursuing unique deaths? are you mad? 11:40 its like the coolest last minute tournament trophy to go for 11:42 in tnnt at least it needed sustained effort, waiting until the last day would just have left whoever the leader was out of reach 11:50 i see what you're doing 11:50 talk others out of going for it, and then you'll swoop in and try to clinch that trophy for yourself/your team 11:51 bold strategy, Cotton 11:51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ru8DMW-grY 11:51 meta-strategies 12:35 -!- tsadok_ is now known as jonadab 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 796 points, T:1085, killed by the Goblin King 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30529 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:948 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4551 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] basilikos (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:28306 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Mal Una) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:31271 15:09 how to turn silver (that my demon form won't be able to handle) into mithril :b 15:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Elf Mal Neu), 4352 points, T:3626, killed by a quasit 15:12 mobileuser heh 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2598 points, T:2907, killed by an invisible agent of Poseidon 15:30 boo, early agent :-( 15:32 arnibald's game? 15:32 Moloch just cursed all my armor and weapons 15:33 nice for the armor, less so for the weapons 15:46 and now a blank spellbook 15:47 it's nice that Sierra the Pilferer keeps the neighborhood clean by putting everything in their sack 15:49 less nice that they stole the AoY and my AoMR first, a bit lucky I got away with that 15:56 Hark mortal! bla bla just crown me already :b 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a barrow wight, on T:9233 16:31 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:35 You already ascended a demon, stay a giant! 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:32497 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:32769 17:04 don't be ridiculous VaderFLAG ;-) 17:07 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:10467 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Mal Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:34110 17:24 \o/ 17:24 "Your trident is wreathed in hellfire!" noice 17:27 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:32827 17:39 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 17:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:56 -!- nabbi has joined #evilhack 17:56 -!- nabbi has quit [Changing host] 17:56 -!- nabbi has joined #evilhack 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a touch of death), on T:33223 18:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Ran Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:5714 18:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:36 MFW I choose amulet, but see that the other room had a magic marker via Object Detection 18:53 lately if i dont have boh i've been going for the tool 18:54 or i'll make the same face... 18:54 I have two in mine, naturally 18:55 markers? 18:55 I forget if I discovered magic detection in my game yet 18:55 Bags 18:55 i didn't realize goblin king has chance of marker. i approve! 18:55 nice surprise 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:2798 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3017 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Kni Orc Fem Cha), 2843 points, T:5420, poisoned by a rotted rock gnome corpse 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1293 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1448 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Vile (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:58, killed by a jackal 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Kni Orc Fem Cha), 3084 points, T:2098, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2437 20:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1736 20:28 Darn - no-longer weaponless 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 58816 points, T:29004, withered away, while praying 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4824 points, T:3115, killed by Mr. Wonotobo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12217 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 14718 points, T:6908, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 21:35 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:03 from backscroll: "MFW I choose amulet, but see that the other room had a magic marker via Object Detection" 22:03 I thought this was removed? 22:03 is it back? 22:03 i think you can tell what the prizes were after you pick one 22:03 not before 22:04 maybe I'm going crazy but I could have sworn that used to be possible, then you removed it and everyone was sad because it was fun to see what you could have gotten 22:04 hmm 22:05 K2: https://termbin.com/twbv 22:05 hrm 22:06 i need to have a look again 22:06 first i need to finish getting splicehack and xnethack setup on eu and au servers 22:13 this is so weird, I definitely couldn't see the other options. and you also said you "fixed" it... but I don't see a commit title that looks relevant from that time period, and I can definitely see the other would-have-been prizes when I test it 22:13 trying to remember 22:13 maybe i thought i had fixed it 22:13 but hadnt 22:14 question for the illithid pros out there... do you usually wear GoP or just not carry anything? 22:15 GoP is pretty useful as an illithid 22:15 or if the ring material allows it, eating rings of gain str 22:16 it must have been some weird quirk of my game, because even checking out a commit from around the time we had that exchange, I can still see the other items. very odd... 22:16 qt its a minor bug. you can only see what the other objects are after you pick up the initial prize 22:17 yeah i know. i like it, it's neat 22:17 hell, may not even be a bug 22:17 it's cool to see what you would have gotten if you chose differently 22:17 it's just weird that I thought it wasn't happening any more... 22:18 i kinda thought so too hah 22:21 wtf was I talking about? looking at the ttyrec from that day I complained about it, it totally says "a bag" when I highlight one of the items I didn't choose 22:22 what the hell lol 22:23 well you dont get the full ID of it 22:23 the tools you can just tell because of their color 22:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3058 points, T:2589, killed by a white unicorn, while praying 22:23 maybe that's what I was thinking of, the actual glyphs used to change and now they don't 22:24 is that right? did they used to change color? 22:24 they still do 22:24 to their original color 22:24 no they don't 22:24 *after* a prize is chosen 22:24 um 22:25 i thought they did 22:26 https://0x0.st/oB--.mp4 22:26 hmm 22:26 I feel like maybe they used to? Maybe that's why I thought you couldn't see their identities any more 22:27 been playing a fiar amount latey, coulda swore they revert to original color after a prize is picked up 22:27 *fair 22:27 do you use curses? maybe curses is different 22:28 i typically dont 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2000 points, T:2526, killed by a dagger 22:31 K2: when I wiztested eating str rings I reverted back to my base str of 10 when I unpoly'd. Is there a way to preserve the str gain from eating rings? 22:32 hrm 22:32 I poly'd to xorn and ate str rings 22:32 eating jewelry, its all vanilla behavior 22:32 lemme test again, but I'm pretty sure I lost any gains. 22:32 bouquet: I don't think there is a way to avoid it 22:32 it's even noted on the wiki 22:32 ring of gain strength +n strength until unpoly 22:33 ok, so confirmed I'm not totally crazy 22:33 vanilla should allow eating an "oFlying give intrinsic flying 22:35 Yeah, attribute changes while polymorphed only last for that polymorph 22:35 k2 I feel like I remember them changing back to their original colors too, but I just built a commit from May 2020 and they stayed green. so I have no idea what (a) I was complaining about changing, or (b) why we both remember that... 22:35 huh 22:36 very weird. maybe that is what I was complaining about -- my confused memory of them changing color...? 22:36 is there a screen refresh happening that wasnt happening before? 22:36 what do you mean? 22:36 the current behavior seems identical to the behavior from the May 2020 commit 22:37 is newsym called or docrt or something 22:37 but wasnt before 22:38 but the behavior hasn't changed, so what are you attributing to a new newsym call? 22:38 why the color reverts to original. is the screen being refreshed now but wasnt before 22:38 the color doesn't revert to the original color though 22:38 when picking up the chosen prize 22:38 ok one sec 22:38 I refer you again to https://0x0.st/oB--.mp4 22:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 744 points, T:1037, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:39 that's from current master btw, not the 2020 commit I mentioned 22:40 ok you are correct 22:40 maybe this is the mandele effect and we both transferred universes to one where the color doesn't change 22:40 s/mandele/mandela 22:40 however, comma 22:40 save and reload 22:40 pick up a prize, save and reload 22:41 ahh 22:41 i knew i wasnt totally crazy 22:41 ok, so that solves the mystery 22:41 thank you for figuring that out. I was so confused 22:41 i know the feeling 22:43 ok and it happens when those squares are redrawn for any reason (e.g. ^R, or opening and closing a fullscreen menu, etc). so that's probably why we remembered it as happening in-game 22:44 sounds right 22:44 I guess that's the reason I thought it had changed, I (sort of mistakenly) remembered them changing color. once again, thanks for solving that mystery. i really felt like i had gone bonkers 22:44 heh 22:45 you had me thinking i was crazy too 22:45 moreso than usual 22:51 I guess if you pick up one of the items and then immediately check inventory to see what it was, a lot of the time that can cover up the other prize squares and force them to be redrawn 22:55 that's probably how I recall seeing the colors revert 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3876 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone quarterstaff on an altar, on T:4589 23:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2355 23:48 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]