00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) genocided giant eels, on T:133806 00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) genocided krakens, on T:133808 00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) genocided electric eels, on T:133811 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:134002 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:134087 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:134094 00:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:74323 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:134149 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:134150 00:14 I think 16 rodneys is my record 00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 9754100 points, T:134171, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1651613077.evil.html 00:15 woo high score! 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1352 00:17 Good job! 00:18 I got 1st and 2nd place on the scoreboard! The most important statistic! 00:18 need to put that on my cv 00:19 You totally do. 00:19 that was the most intense ascension run I've ever survived. 00:20 rodney showed up 16 times and doubletroubled me. Stole the amulet multiple times. 00:22 knight is fun because once you get the magic mirror you can blast stuff. But it's useless once you get the amulet. Can't regen power. 00:23 Giant Samurai is still my favorite 00:27 the secret weapon on astral? Tons of blessed scrolls of confuse monster. All the priests get stupid and can't cast when you hit them once. 00:27 no more archon storms or mass summonings 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2200 points, T:3283, quit 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 514 points, T:1534, killed by Mr. Annootok; the shopkeeper 01:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:76382 01:42 bouquet: can't regen power? 01:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Storm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:76923 02:14 Confusion fouls proper casting 02:14 @e?priest 02:14 priest (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 2 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 02:14 @e?aligned priest 02:14 aligned priest (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: shock | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 1d4 kick physical, 0d0 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 02:14 They have to hit you to go into the casting part of the routine, doesn't work if they can't reliably target (is my guess) 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Arc Trt Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4178 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Arc Trt Mal Law), 3361 points, T:4198, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while reading a book 02:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:58 Oh, crap. Soko. The giant mimic was mimicing a giant boulder... Whilst also sitting on a freaking boulder. 03:03 congrats bouquet!! 03:05 the Wizard of Yendor (16 times) 03:05 amazing 03:14 That's normal for soko 03:32 I just found these bones: 03:32 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1652181079.evil.txt 03:32 "You were level 9 with a maximum of 67 hit points when you panicked." :b 03:32 no dumplog hax for me... 03:33 Heh. 03:33 Lol 03:33 Don’t even remember it 03:34 Did I quit or it is about something else? 03:34 withered away, there is an army of gnolls witherling 03:34 oracle level 03:35 the game must have thrown a panic... 03:39 you had Grimtooth btw 03:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:8119 03:46 Worth it. 03:56 panics leave bones???? 03:59 Yeah, it's weird. Writing the bones must have gone fine, I see nothing strange, grave has the correct message. 04:34 Remind me, in soko, if I get the hat, does the game ensure I get it as a soft hat that tortles can wear easily, or is it always hard? 04:34 Someone earlier said it had a 41% chance *if* it's a hat? 04:36 yeah 41% chance 04:36 Not fantastic odds. :( 04:37 the commit calls it "a significant chance" 04:37 :-) 04:37 * arahael rolls his eyes. 04:37 That's like, less than 25% chance overall. 04:38 I know it is Friday 13, but I made sure to get a four-leaf clover first 04:38 And then the Lady was still displeased when I prayed for holy water :-( 04:39 unfair! 04:43 Oh, so THAT's why my prayer's were generally failing today? 04:43 Is it also why the goblin king was so freaking tough, too? 04:49 goblin king is unrelated, but it wouldn't surprise if the goblin king is a bit tougher if you go into the branch with a higher XP level 04:49 I know that the ice queen is tougher when your XL is high 04:53 Good to know. Goblin king was significantly tougher, I survived, though. 04:54 enter the branch when XL is low, return again when XL is higher :-) 05:00 I should do that. :D 05:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a mithril helm of speed, on T:8504 05:04 Significant chance my ass. 05:05 > The helm is too rigid to wear. 05:06 So a greater than 25% chance that the soko prize is entirley useless! 05:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a rock mole, on T:9202 05:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law), 24782 points, T:9207, zombified by an orc zombie 05:13 This is a tough game for sure on a friday 13th. 05:24 oh its friday 13th 05:33 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 05:39 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:51 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1748 points, T:2702, killed by an orcish arrow 05:58 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: reboot] 06:01 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 06:16 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 963 points, T:1667, killed by the Goblin King 06:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:54 \o/ bouquet 06:55 knight power! 06:55 wow with 200hp too, nice 06:57 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 364 points, T:1182, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 06:59 you ascended your rogue yet VaderFLAG? 07:00 i'm still trying to get a better weapon than a +3 dagger for mine (turn 50k) 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 20 points, T:172, killed by an orcish dagger 07:01 I don't think I'm cut out for wizard 07:05 i've never had such a hard time getting a decent weapon before 07:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:725 07:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) performed her first genocide (energy vortices), on T:756 07:28 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:30 [backscroll] all monsters can become slightly tougher depending on your exp level and where you encounter them. see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Monster_level#Calculation_of_monster_level 07:31 congrats bouquet \o/ 07:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1300 07:41 Makes sense, I guess I was surprised to see how big a difference it was when it came to the Goblin King. 07:45 its typically not a big different, maybe a spread of 4-5 hit dice max 07:45 *difference 07:47 It might've also been a friday 13 thing, too, with hte effect on luck and stuff. 07:47 my level 30 vorpal jabberwock pet is leaving me little appreciation for how shitty everything else about this rogue is 07:48 leave the vorpal jabberwock pet in sokoban so you can truly enjoy the overall shittiness ;-) 07:49 can it use a unihorn btw? 07:49 I think they count as intelligent 07:49 i haven't noticed it trying to carry anything but can try 07:50 it is level 30 with 240 hits and i do about 10 damage a round so it is game over if it ever stops loving me 07:51 I thought you had those great spears? Or was that another game? 07:52 hah, no, that is this game, i'm using a pair of +3 daggers Kos gave me, his spears are in a chest somewhere, never trained 07:52 heh 07:53 and with all my criticism he stopped giving me gifts 07:53 krm26 No only just finished castle and a bajillion years of sacrificing for good weapons too 07:53 krm26 is there a race/role combo you actually enjoy? 07:54 i cant seem to recall one you've played where you seem happy 07:54 How come you don't forge those daggers into short swords 07:54 i actually really enjoy rogue -- but any run you can get rng'd into the ground 07:54 <3 07:54 ^ evil heart if anyone asks 07:54 I've just discovered how to *trivially* take care of nymphs. 07:54 vorpal jabberwock? 07:55 that's what i use 07:55 heh 07:55 krm26: Heh, no. Confusion./ 07:55 thinking of a monster throwing a potion of confusion and hitting my pet makes me wet myself 07:56 K2: Evil heart? You mean this... The Hairy Heart: https://blog.emojipedia.org/android-50-emoji-changelog/ 07:56 k2, also realize i spend my time kicking butt instead of whining when i have nothing fun to whine about 07:56 krm26: In a good way, I hope? (But no, I'm using the spell of confusion) 07:56 i've had whole runs where the only thing i type in this channel is "mmm" 07:57 heh 07:57 hairy heart eww 07:58 was really hoping to find a ludios to feed to my jabberwock but (for i think the 5th castle-or-further in a row) looks like i'm gonna be out of luck 07:58 I don't have a ludios either 07:59 uuuuunnngh 07:59 I dont want to mow the leech field today 07:59 but i have to 07:59 krm26, send your vorpal jabberwock over, I have a job for it 08:00 you don't want a vorpal weapon for cutting grass, you want kusanagi no tsurugi, the grass-cutting sword 08:00 or, i've always thought a better translation would be "lawn fucking mower" 08:00 lol 08:01 its gonna rain this weekend and part of next week, so if I dont do it after work today, it'll be overgrown by the time I can get to it next 08:01 just over one acre to mow 08:02 my ztr totally killed my whining about mowing my crabgrass -- i love that thing 08:02 if only there was some zero turn radius solution for my all the weeding 08:02 will take about 1.5 hrs to do 08:03 i've got a 4' deck riding mower, not ztr 08:03 ztr dont do well on inclines 08:03 i have 1.25 acres but only about .5 of it is lawn -- weird curvy irritating shapes, but the ztr knocks it out in like 20 minutes 08:03 edging can take a while 08:03 krm26: You need some goats. 08:03 i wish! i'm not allowed them 08:03 i've always wanted to build a goat tower 08:04 i'd love to have a couple goats 08:04 You have 1.25 acres, and not allowed goats? 08:04 except ozzy and bourbon would prob see them as a snack 08:04 the tortoises i'm not allowed to have are less obvious 08:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:76546 08:04 i live in a weird place. i'm in an hoa, but hidden from everyone else in the hoa on a big lot with its own walls and bamboo hedges and crap, super-private 08:05 so if the hoa fuckheads can hear something it can be an issue, but they can't SEE anything 08:05 so no chickens, no goats 08:05 a couple of our neighbors in our hoa tried keeping chickens, which is fine. except the foxes and fisher cat that roam our land had other ideas 08:05 but they don't know i built a massive koi pond and have a sulcatta digging mines 08:06 great blue herons are my big problem here, i've seen otters around but mercifully none have ever found the koi pond 08:06 it would just be one big soup bowl for them 08:06 FL problems vs VT problems 08:06 I've never really understood HOA's, they're an american thing, right? 08:06 goddamn FL 08:06 they are a rich white privileged asshat thing 08:06 arahael probably. they can get great if managed properly 08:06 a nightmare if not 08:07 K2: How so? 08:07 *be 08:07 in theory they are designed to "keep up community standards", often in the absence of a town (i'm in unincorporated orange county, for example) 08:08 ok so for instance, our HOA, there are rules that state how many homes can be built on a plot of land based on how many acres it is, how much space there needs to be between each home, etc 08:08 in practice they can often be run by tin-pot fascists who want to keep things white and square 08:08 which saved our ass earlier last year 08:08 all depends on the people really. unfortunately the people in mine are floridians 08:08 this one guy bought the last 12 acre lot, most of it was class III wetland which means you cant develop anything on it 08:09 so he had 3 acres to work with 08:09 he tried to squeeze four homes onto 3 acres 08:09 i would love a 12 acre lot of almost all wetland! sounds amazing 08:09 but for one home 08:09 K2: So it's like a mini council zone? Odd, here, such the state manages these rules. 08:10 but where we are, its all classified as rural III, meaning you have to preserve nature as best you can, the views, cant have houses on top of each other, etc 08:10 the feds have regs, the state has regs, the county has regs, and for most people after that the municipality has regs, THEN the hoa if there is one 08:10 yeah its kind of a mess 08:11 county creates zones that regulate development, but not as much as is necessary in a densely populated area, which is why we have towns/cities/villages/andiguesshoas 08:11 the town DRB doesnt really have a clue how to handle disputes and issues 08:11 Why would there be a dispute or issue? Just check the regulations... 08:11 long story short, the guy didnt build, and he sold the 12 acres to one of our neighbors whose property touched that land 08:11 prob solved 08:12 i assume you are being facetious arahael 08:12 krm26: Not entirely. 08:12 regulations don't decrease dispute volume 08:12 the town doesnt have any teeth per se 08:12 they always wind up deferring to the state 08:12 krm26: What's an example? 08:13 ohmigod how many walls of text do you want 08:13 heh 08:13 i mean the entire history of jurisprudence 08:13 this reminds me, we need to have another HOA meeting soon, our treasurer is leaving 08:13 here is a simple hoa illustration 08:14 krm26: Here, it's either defined in regulation, or it's not. And if you still have a dispute, you bring the police in or the court. 08:14 hoa has a lot of things governed by something called an arb, an architectural review board -- intent to make sure people don't clearcut all their trees, paint their house orange, etc. you know, keep up appearances 08:14 so someone builds a pvc fence without asking the arb 08:14 so the hoa says hey dude, you should have asked to build the fence, take it down 08:15 so the guy doesn't bother to respond 08:15 so the hoa (a month later at the next board meeting) gets their lawyer to send a legal notice 08:15 so a month later they send a second legal notice 08:15 so the guy submits a request to the arb 08:15 so the arb rejects it because they don't think pvc is up to snuff for the character of the neighborhood, it should be aluminum 08:15 Yeah, that's what's wierd to me... Why would they have a systme that depends on *asking* like that? Just check the regulations, they allow it? All good. 08:16 the regulation says "ask the arb and they'll say something", basically 08:16 and the arb is made up of people who sometimes don't care and sometimes are crazy 08:16 Ok, seems like you do things very differently. 08:16 Mind you, for *construction*, we do have to submit plans to the council for approval. 08:17 But a fence? No, we have specific regulations. 08:17 Same for like anything else. 08:17 And saying "You should've asked to build the fense, take it down", that's... Childish. 08:17 you have things exactly like hoas in australia, i think they are called property associations 08:17 Either approve it, or reject it. 08:18 they are much more commonly used for condos then freestanding dwellings 08:19 Ah, no, not property associations. We do have Strata for apartments (what you call condos, I think). 08:19 i don't mean to be rude, arahael, but i'm not sure you have a comprehensive view of how the law works in australia. all of our shitty systems derive from british common law and are garbage 08:19 they all work pretty much the same 08:19 But... The difference is it's because it's the strata that owns the apartment, you own the air and paint. So changes to the strata property requires going through strata. 08:20 krm26: I'm sure there's lots of gaps, but there are huge differences still. 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:77355 08:21 basically code enforcement is often slow, haphazard, and painful except where it is unthinking, vicious, and summary 08:21 Well that bit is similar. 08:22 the law is executed by people and people are shit, particularly people interested in executing the law 08:23 There is that. 08:25 I wonder how property laws work in non-british countries. 08:26 first encounter with a chickatrice, immediate hissing + stoning. am I glad I killed a lizard moments before. is Friday 13th over yet? 08:26 It's still friday 13th for almost 2 more hours for me. 08:26 Netherlands: pretty similar 08:26 Belgium: free-for-all 08:27 It was always a culture shock driving from NL to BE :-) 08:27 I've been in Belgium, they have taxes on the width of a house, I believe. :) 08:28 I meant the building regulations, no idea about taxes there :-) 08:28 That specific tax is literally the only thing I know about belgium housing! 08:28 heh 08:28 TIL 08:29 It's why they have such narrow houses sometimes. 08:29 Long, but narrow. 08:30 google says: Belgian property taxes were once based on the width of your house. 08:30 so not any more apparently 08:30 Interesting. 08:31 other countries had the famous "window tax" of course 08:31 England, that one. 08:31 not just England 08:32 Oh? 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had a platinum spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:44530 08:33 Man, zombies are so damned dangerious today. 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5193 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6019 points, T:5222, poisoned by a gray fungus 08:47 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:45454 08:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:4609 09:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:5192 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:46113 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2141 09:08 Zombifying again. I think I need to save and resume when it's no-longer friday 13th, so that I can pray. 09:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 14926 points, T:10436, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 09:13 urgh 09:14 !lastgame 09:14 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/arnibald/evilhack/dumplog/1652387547.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1652357397.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1652405089.evil.html 09:14 too many of them at once 09:14 Sleep ray + elf is really one of my least favorite early game shenanigans 09:15 a whole posse of gnome royals and elves 09:16 the slow tortle speed gives you a lot less time to react 09:17 ok I'm done with tortles :-) 09:19 Is -20ac pretty typical for kathryn? 09:21 is Friday the 13th why rodney showed up so many times? 09:22 -20 sounds about right 09:22 maybe a little above average 09:23 My usual strategy was failing miserably, missing a ton for some reason 09:23 congrats bouquet \o/ 09:23 thanks! I've just never seen him appear 16 times before. It was non stop doubletrouble. 09:23 He knew you could handle it 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3578 09:45 to convert from lawful to chaotic should I sac a white unicorn on a chaotic altar? 09:46 the "window tax" is also "more windows means you pay more for heat" 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 5484 points, T:4605, killed by a champion of Mog 09:46 that's why developers make ugly houses with one or two sides with no windows or very few 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:80350 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2622 points, T:3549, quit 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a pair of cloth low boots entrusted to her by Kos, on T:80453 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 834 points, T:1457, killed by the Goblin King 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:80978 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 852 points, T:1993, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 10:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law), 13450 points, T:6080, zombified by a dwarf zombie 10:31 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3989 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 darts on an altar, on T:4284 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:83243 10:44 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4664 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9124 points, T:5281, killed by a giant centipede 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:85384 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 590 points, T:1511, killed by the Goblin King, while praying 11:37 sheesh the magic 8-ball is heavy for a piece of plastic 11:38 k2: magic 8 ball needs to weigh no more than a luckstone! a plastic luckstone 11:38 also getting knocked back/wand of stroked should force an involuntary 8-ball application 11:52 its filled with water 11:52 hence the weight 11:52 damn you and your logic 11:52 damn you straight to overloaded hell 11:52 oh crap, the crystal plate mail i found has a property 11:53 that gets destroyed if i scale it, right? 11:53 yes 11:53 removed rather 11:53 crying shame, only crystal plate mail with property i've ever seen 11:53 i mean, bad property, but still 11:54 i don't think i've EVER worn two pieces of property armor at the same time before 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Kos, on T:63081 12:08 that was like a crazy 10k turn gift drought 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a gold shield of reflection entrusted to her by Kos, on T:64094 12:17 ...i was missing reflection, but i'm a dual-wielding rogue and it is gold...not sure how much to whine... 12:25 What's the crystal plate got? 12:29 he said it was bad, so either fumbling or hunger 12:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34908 12:42 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 12:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 12:46 searching actually, shoulda said "not good" :-) 12:46 (rogue) 12:48 you are hard to please 12:50 don't blame me for kos's failings, the god is totally senile 12:50 i'm dragonbane easy dragonbane to dragonbane please 12:51 if the gods would just do customer satisfaction surveys 12:51 * jonadab wields a +0 dagger named Newtsbane 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:86686 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3286 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:86699 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful homunculus, on T:2386 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered his faithful giant ant, on T:2387 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:2399 12:55 ^ someone who will do whatever it takes 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2936 points, T:3618, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:38607 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3692 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 192 points, T:1823, zombified by a kobold zombie, while sleeping 13:19 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 39 points, T:317, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:3766 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 6982 points, T:3891, killed by a soldier ant 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 415 points, T:1224, zombified by a gnome zombie 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 125 points, T:496, killed by a black pudding 13:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 96 points, T:978, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 13:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:56 -!- entrez has joined #evilhack 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a shiny shield entrusted to her by Kos, on T:67861 13:59 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:42993 14:04 that's where my rolls are going! 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:89151 14:07 Somehow managed to kill him with a hit rate of 0% 14:09 why was kas so hard to hit? 14:09 bad rolls, high ac, twoweaponing 14:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 14:15 -!- amateurhour has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4969 14:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful stalker, on T:45134 14:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:46115 14:42 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 359 points, T:691, killed by the Goblin King 14:46 does anyone ever screw around trying to explore the sw corner of the mid rogue quest level? anything interesting in there? 14:59 there's a scroll, that's it 15:02 jimmy hoffa 15:02 ^ old people will get that one 15:03 -!- entrez is now known as qt 15:03 oh hey there's qt 15:04 were you on the look out for me? 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril elven dagger on an altar, on T:6550 15:05 brb 15:06 sort of 15:06 i put a sugegstion in for your pratchett PR 15:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6644 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:89831 15:20 K2: there should be a random spot in that quadrant that if you dig it up it unearths a grave. No headstone, though :) 15:20 buried with a diamond ring and some zorkmids 15:21 hahaha 15:26 K2: i saw that, it was funny -- but tbh my instinct is that the joke works in the source code, but wouldn't so much in the actual game, where you basically are never going to see that message more than one time max. 15:26 the joke relies on you recognizing that perspiration and inspiration are contrasted, and since only one is printed at a time it requires you to have seen the non-halluc message first. doesn't seem likely unless you're deliberately trying to do it 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:90495 15:27 I really have been underestimating the sword of kas 15:28 it is sweet for a giant 15:29 Ok I wished for dragonbane, but I am going to put the hand of vecna on just for funsies 15:29 Can always take it off later if I don't like it....................... 15:29 make sure you grease the stump so it'll slip right off 15:29 haha 15:30 I wonder if the red dragon secondary stacks with the vecna passive 15:30 I don't get messages for the red dragon thing so no way to know 15:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 338002 points, T:48314, killed by a torrent of acid 15:30 !lastgame 15:30 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/evilhack/dumplog/1652467178.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1652184263.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1652439351.evil.html 15:30 Just on cue, someone to make me think not having acid resist 15:30 what's the red dragon thing? 15:31 you got the hand? i want a full report VaderFLAG 15:31 secondary extrinsic includes +1d6 melee dmg, says the wiki 15:31 I got the hand and I'm afraid to put it on 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:90514 15:35 I had the hand. Awesome. 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:7312 15:35 passive cold damage. Immune to sickness (pestilence was impotent against me). 25 str. 15:35 no problem picking up footrices 15:36 Jubilex was first 15:36 So I figured that was a sign I should use it 15:36 I can't think of any drawbacks excpect if I was a monk and wanted to wear silver GoP. 15:36 could just put on a silver ring I guess. 15:36 Well I have no other relfection source 15:36 That's my current problem 15:37 you're a gnome? 15:37 Yeah 15:37 wish I still had my silver short sword of frost :| 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:90692 15:38 ya, you lose that option for reflect-o-fists if you put on vecna's hand. 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 1402 points, T:2061, killed by a giant bat 15:40 ho ho ho hand of vecna works on thrown daggers 15:40 I guess it chilled them down real good 15:40 the 25 str plus the cold damage is gonna mean insane ranged damage 15:42 Can't wait to see what I can get in a single round with double brands vs no resists + vecna cold + 25str + increase damage ring + backstab 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4141 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4356 points, T:4816, quit 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:841 15:48 ya, it worked with polearms, too 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1328 points, T:2747, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 49 points, T:208, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:90947 16:37 >giant sergeant in Soko 16:37 >spawned with a boulder 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2610 points, T:2135, killed by a couatl of Tyr, while fainted from lack of food 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:91243 16:51 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1258 points, T:2903, killed by a rabid dog 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1021 points, T:2138, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:57 i just consumed dried acid blob 16:57 how is this possible? 16:57 culinary genius 16:58 meanwhile I just sliced open a goblin's throat with Orcrist 16:58 the mithril broadsword, Orcrist 16:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1213 points, T:3975, killed by a large kobold 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Bishop (Mon Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:20989 17:17 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 17:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 17:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Client Quit] 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:78144 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Arc Hum Fem Law), 120 points, T:40, killed by an exploding rune 17:39 why would eating a dried acid blob not be possible? 17:40 oh i guess if it's just acid it can't be "dried" 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Con Hob Fem Cha), 58 points, T:161, killed by a grid bug 17:41 tbh I always imagined an acid blob as having some kind of cell wall or membrane around the outside to hold everything together, but maybe that's contradicted by D&D lore or something 17:42 i mean, you can carry its corpse around, so that also seems like it's somehow more than just animate acid 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Arc Dwa Fem Neu), 301 points, T:652, killed by a gnoll 17:47 I picture an acid filled bean bag monster 17:51 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:52 you can dry acid 17:53 "sorta" 17:54 done with soko, would like the BoH but I need the reflection/MR way more 17:54 survival before utility 17:54 so easy enough pick, but 17:54 the honey badger ate all the doors 17:54 magic whistle you pet in there to pick it up for you 17:54 saved me a potion ig 17:55 bouquet: with what whistle 17:55 is it a problem that the doors are gone? 17:55 isn't that a good thing? 17:55 it is a bonus that the doors are gone 17:55 collect them all 17:55 I think that exploit got fixed? 17:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 gotta give it the old college try with a magic whistle 17:55 bouquet: with what whistle 17:56 qt: didn't say it was a problem 17:56 bouquet: the gelcube thing? yeah i think I saw ol' "no fun K2" did change it 17:56 "literally unplayable" 17:56 the other prizes pop the moment you touch one anyway iirc 17:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:29062 17:56 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 17:56 i'm still deeply upset he removed the thing that let you see what you would have gotten had you chose differently 17:57 ah the sokoban gold screw, condolences 17:57 bling bling 17:57 leprechaun bait 17:57 ...for having a "not instantly dead" amulet? 17:57 leps are w/e 17:57 until one swipes it and another hits you with a wand of death 17:57 I think I'll play the odds on that one 17:57 my real problem is I don't have a BoH to hold all this shit 17:57 well "problem" 17:58 the arc quest artifact being gold is so frustrating in xnethack 17:58 no getting around that one without leprechaun geno 17:59 yeah a gold amulet of flying, reflection, or magic resitance and a gold ring of free action will inevitably spell your doom when you least expect it 17:59 my last game, i had gold-stealing shambling horrors which was AWFUL 18:02 best shambling horror I ever had was something like lichen+nymph+archon. It sat still, but would stun you and steal your stuff. 18:06 like an obese, bed-bound kleptomaniac with a cosh 18:07 my life story 18:09 heh 18:10 well, i guess i'm gonna see if my vorpal jabberwock will kill my quest nemesis for me while i sit there like an ineffectual lump 18:10 gotta at least have my quest complete by the time VaderFLAG ascends 18:13 I'm rooting for you 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:79954 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:79960 18:16 he teleported next to my vorpal jabberwock first, by the time he got to me he had 2 hp 18:19 but the very next moment one changeling alhooned and one arch liched and they both jumped me. the alhoon took every single skill down to unskilled 18:19 wheeee 18:20 monkey's paw moment 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:80565 18:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:34 once I learned of the oilskin hat I stopped fearing alhoons. 18:34 and illithids in general 18:35 you have to do more than learn of it. you have to have a wish and wish for it 18:39 I was going to convert lawful krm26 but then Kos gave me extra protection and my naked AC is like -3 so I can't give that up 18:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Crom, on T:30400 18:43 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:44 you are clearly kos's favorite. i still don't have a weapon at turn 80k 18:44 Forge one! 18:44 i've never been this altar-stymied before 18:45 i'm just gonna keep swinging my vorpal jabberwock 18:45 All those poor shopkeepers 18:45 they are long gone 18:45 i've managed to preserve one priest with a winding passageway into his temple i can get my pet stuck in 18:46 one benefit over the arch-lich pet i had last time, you just annihilated everything indiscriminately 18:46 hmm, can you put a saddle on a jabberwock? 18:46 Have you managed to level up at all? or is he stealing all your xp 18:46 yeah he gets most of my xp, but i'm level 15 18:46 Oh good enough 18:47 got a few wraiths to get up there 18:47 aw what, the soko scrolls were cursed lmfao 18:47 Also yes, jabberwocks are probably the best steeds in vanilla 18:47 since they can get intrinsics now 18:48 vorpal jabberwocks cannot be saddled 18:48 you owe me a holy water :-) 18:49 I said normal jabberwocks, but also bullshit they can't 18:49 at minimum I'm not seeing a reason why 18:49 Yeah vorpal J should be saddlable 18:49 rabble rabble 18:49 i'm willing to reload after you patch that for me k2 :-) 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:82652 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:533 19:17 boooooooooooooooooo 19:17 tinning giant turtles doesn't make hi-nutrition food here 19:20 17 STR with no spinach in sight 19:20 if not for these GoP I'd wish Dragonbane up rn 19:20 though tbf the resulting playermon might have a BoH 19:21 ...nah. 19:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 1039 points, T:2097, died of starvation, while fainted 19:42 ~< 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9236 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 1608 points, T:1464, killed by a small mimic 20:03 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:49385 20:20 (Tony Stark voice) There is a honey badger on Aphrodite's level 20:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:36572 20:31 Second lamp, okeydoke 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:51678 20:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +3 Dragonbane", on T:36624 20:32 was secretly hoping for playermon this time 20:32 got the +3 though! 20:34 Smoky's gain ability 20:39 -!- musicdemon has joined #evilhack 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 32 points, T:182, poisoned by a little dart 20:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased dragonhide bag of holding", on T:37453 20:51 Really now, right as I'm confirming that beatitude a shocking sphere manifests on top of me 20:51 I only lost a cancel wand since I was sensible enough to bag everything else but ofc that's the one thing I would've liked to keep 20:52 at least you didn't bag the cancel wand and lose everything! 20:56 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 20:59 no smoky wish but that solves my 17 STR problem handily 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a ring mail entrusted to her by Kos, on T:83848 21:02 ARGH turn 83k RING MAIL comeononnnnnn 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2845 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:2858 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Ran Cen Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2362 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4189 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5927 points, T:4192, quit 21:23 finally lost my vorpal jabberwock, swallowed by a dragon :-( 21:24 do the goblin portal and minetown branch entrance have any relation to each other in level generation? 21:25 other than their ranges overlap, no 21:25 you can have goblin town portal below minetown stairs 21:25 gotcha, thanks. Yeah, the entrance is eluding me a bit 21:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 21118 points, T:10712, choked on a stone giant corpse 21:40 you get a bustling color message on the level with the goblin town portal 21:41 it turns out I was just blind and mistook the pale yellow down arrow glyph for the white down arrow glyph, haha 21:46 -!- musicdemon has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Gno Fem Cha) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Kos, on T:88283 22:00 wuh oh, made a couple of the watch angry because lol Orcrist 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death (dissolved in molten lava), on T:57082 22:14 Do neutrals get the murder penalty when killing shopkeepers, or do only chaotics avoid that? 22:15 only chaotics avoid the luck/telepathy penalty, and they still get an alignment hit, at least in vanilla. 22:17 Same in Evil, and alignment/guilt hits matter way more there 22:17 Cool. 22:25 K2: Oh, and the XP difference wehn fighting the goblin king? I was comparing the goblin king when you enter at Xp 2, vs Xp 8, except at Xp 2 you can be Xp 5 once you actually kill all teh goblins and are now about to meet the king, wereas with Xp 8, you're still pretty much Xp 8 when you meet the king. 22:26 So that is also explaining the very significant difference, too. 22:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1063 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1791 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4715 points, T:2736, killed by a killer bee, while praying 22:53 "Orcrist flickers light blue!" 22:53 >gold dragon spawned 23:00 arahael yup it pays to enter gtown at a lower level 23:00 same for a lot of different places 23:04 I think the above's a legit bug also 23:04 (ftr I also had Dragonbane when the gold dragon showed) 23:07 yup i can recreate it 23:07 weird 23:09 Hmm, nearby gnomes don't seem to show up as warning. 23:09 (In the dark, in the mines) 23:09 Because they're too weak 23:09 Ah, fair. 23:12 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 4 points, T:118, killed by a water moccasin 23:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3127 23:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Law), 7359 points, T:3380, killed by a dwarf queen 23:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1488